Restitution Hearing 12/19

[weezer]

I assume Stewart was in court for the sentencing of the other defendants because it was originally announced that the restitution hearing would immediately follow. that hearing is postponed to the 19th. my question is, why wasn't orenthal there? why wouldn't he be part of the restitution?

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I assume Stewart was in court for the sentencing of the other defendants because it was originally announced that the restitution hearing would immediately follow. that hearing is postponed to the 19th. my question is, why wasn't orenthal there? why wouldn't he be part of the restitution?

Was Gallanter there?

[weezer]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

Was Gallanter there?

no one mentioned him. how in the world are they ever going to sort out what belongs to everyone?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I assume Stewart was in court for the sentencing of the other defendants because it was originally announced that the restitution hearing would immediately follow. that hearing is postponed to the 19th. my question is, why wasn't orenthal there? why wouldn't he be part of the restitution?

glass has oj tucked away in jail she will give all the stuff to fred and ask him not to tell.hahaha

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

no one mentioned him. how in the world are they ever going to sort out what belongs to everyone?

I don't know. It's a mess.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

I don't know. It's a mess.

I think the 'personal stuff'; i.e., family pictures will be easy enough to separate but I don't know about the rest of it. evidently orenthal thought it was all his so maybe the court will turn over everything to the civil judgment.

[weezer]

I guess the restitution will include pain and suffering -- fromong is still pizzed about his shoulder

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I guess the restitution will include pain and suffering -- fromong is still pizzed about his shoulder

I don't understand why Simpson allowed anyone to remove the personal pictures from his house. I don't think the Goldmans would have ever had a claim on them. I guess he wasn't taking any chances.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

I don't understand why Simpson allowed anyone to remove the personal pictures from his house. I don't think the Goldmans would have ever had a claim on them. I guess he wasn't taking any chances.

I think his greediness got the better of him that night -- on the tapes he is laughing and telling the story about how everyone was grabbing stuff and taking it everywhere to get it out of the house.

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I think his greediness got the better of him that night -- on the tapes he is laughing and telling the story about how everyone was grabbing stuff and taking it everywhere to get it out of the house.

Did you ever get to see the clip where he's talking about giving his friends the stuff out of his house?

[weezer]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

Did you ever get to see the clip where he's talking about giving his friends the stuff out of his house?

I did finally. it was very odd because it's almost exactly what he was saying on the vegas tapes.

I think orenthal's family should get the family photos and fromong anything he can show a receipt for and the rest to the civil judgment.

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I did finally. it was very odd because it's almost exactly what he was saying on the vegas tapes.

I think orenthal's family should get the family photos and fromong anything he can show a receipt for and the rest to the civil judgment.

That sounds fair to me. I don't think Simpson's family should lose their family pictures because he was so greedy that he gave them away.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

That sounds fair to me. I don't think Simpson's family should lose their family pictures because he was so greedy that he gave them away.

he did say his sister was there and hauling stuff away -- do you suppose this is what was in the storage room noboby paid the rent on? these priceless family treasures? LOL

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

he did say his sister was there and hauling stuff away -- do you suppose this is what was in the storage room noboby paid the rent on? these priceless family treasures? LOL

I hadn't thought of that but that could be the case. I bet that was quite a scene when all that stuff was being hauled away...I'm sure the fur was flying. Is that the same sister that swooned in the court room? Maybe her home should have been searched for some of loot she carted away...these people never cease to amaze me.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

I hadn't thought of that but that could be the case. I bet that was quite a scene when all that stuff was being hauled away...I'm sure the fur was flying. Is that the same sister that swooned in the court room? Maybe her home should have been searched for some of loot she carted away...these people never cease to amaze me.

well to hear orenthal tell it, he had friends and family loading up cars and hauling stuff all over -- homes and storerooms.

[weezer]

I had an earlier correspondence with someone and thanks to that very smart lady, some great points were made about the ownership of orenthal's family treasures:

the "personal family photos" and other "personal family items" orenthal brought up in court and on the tapes were about things allegedly legally sold at auction after rental fees on storage bins in his mother's name were not paid. Supposedly some singer's manager bought the stuff at auction and wanted Fromong &/or Beardsley to sell it for him. Contents of unpaid storage units go up for auction all the time. It's possible the guy didn't even know what he had until after it was bought. If the stuff was so important to orenthal and/or his family, it shouldn't have been shunted away in a storge locker somewhere or at the very least members of the family should have known where it was and made sure it was made part of Eunice Simpson's estate and divvied up amongst the family.

[weezer]

this should make it even more interesting:

VICTIM NEED NOT PRESENT “PROOF” OF LOSS AT RESTITUTION HEARING
So says the California Court of Appeals in the recent case of People v. Gemelli. In that case, the victim provided information regarding losses sustained as a result of a burglary, but did not submit “proof” of loss in the form of receipts and the like. The Court found that, once a crime victim sets forth a prima facie showing of economic loss, the burden shifts to the defendant to disprove the loss claimed by the victim. The Court ruled that there is no requirement that the victim provide independent or verified “proof” of loss in order to meet this prima facie standard.

Posted by Wallin & Klarich
http://www.southerncaliforniadefense...ent_proof.html

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I had an earlier correspondence with someone and thanks to that very smart lady, some great points were made about the ownership of orenthal's family treasures:

the "personal family photos" and other "personal family items" orenthal brought up in court and on the tapes were about things allegedly legally sold at auction after rental fees on storage bins in his mother's name were not paid. Supposedly some singer's manager bought the stuff at auction and wanted Fromong &/or Beardsley to sell it for him. Contents of unpaid storage units go up for auction all the time. It's possible the guy didn't even know what he had until after it was bought. If the stuff was so important to orenthal and/or his family, it shouldn't have been shunted away in a storge locker somewhere or at the very least members of the family should have known where it was and made sure it was made part of Eunice Simpson's estate and divvied up amongst the family.

If it's truly the case that the stuff was auctioned for that reason then I don't see where Simpson has a claim to any of it.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

If it's truly the case that the stuff was auctioned for that reason then I don't see where Simpson has a claim to any of it.

If the personal hotel stuff was not on the civil judges list , then all of it belongs to oj.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

If the personal hotel stuff was not on the civil judges list , then all of it belongs to oj.

I guess that is going to depend on whether or not the story about the storage unit contents being auctioned for non-payment is proven.

[weezer]

Memorabilia hearing next week for OJ Simpson

Updated: Dec 12, 2008 02:48 PM CST

Also on KTNV.com

Action News Continuing Coverage: O.J. Simpson Trial

A hearing is scheduled involving the memorabilia at the center of the OJ Simpson robbery case.

Next Friday, the court will have to determine who is the legal owner of the items.

Most of OJ's co-defendants are expected to be at Friday's restitution hearing.

Simpson was sentenced to at least 9 years in prison for his role in the Palace Station robbery.

Keep it tuned to Channel 13 Action News for the latest
http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9512582

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

Memorabilia hearing next week for OJ Simpson

Updated: Dec 12, 2008 02:48 PM CST

Also on KTNV.com

Action News Continuing Coverage: O.J. Simpson Trial

A hearing is scheduled involving the memorabilia at the center of the OJ Simpson robbery case.

Next Friday, the court will have to determine who is the legal owner of the items.

Most of OJ's co-defendants are expected to be at Friday's restitution hearing.

Simpson was sentenced to at least 9 years in prison for his role in the Palace Station robbery.

Keep it tuned to Channel 13 Action News for the latest
http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9512582

GLASS will claim nothing belongs to oj.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

GLASS will claim nothing belongs to oj.

let's see -- orenthal never filed a report that anything was stolen AND when he was asked what happened to the stuff, he didn't know AND managed to move some of the stuff into a trust for his kids (so he said) -- of course, it would be interesting to see if any of the stuff supposedly in the trust is out there for sale. AND the story is that some of that stuff was in a storeroom that no one paid rent on and it was auctioned. It should prove to be an interesting task to figure out who and what. wonder who from simpson family is going to show up to lay claim to any of it?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

let's see -- orenthal never filed a report that anything was stolen AND when he was asked what happened to the stuff, he didn't know AND managed to move some of the stuff into a trust for his kids (so he said) -- of course, it would be interesting to see if any of the stuff supposedly in the trust is out there for sale. AND the story is that some of that stuff was in a storeroom that no one paid rent on and it was auctioned. It should prove to be an interesting task to figure out who and what. wonder who from simpson family is going to show up to lay claim to any of it?

You have the answer , right?

[Vanillaangel]

It should be very interesting to see what happens. The Goldman's , on the day of OJ's arrest in this case, filed to get the memorabilia that was seized as evidence for the criminal case.
TMZ report/link

I know the judge in this case attempted to berate Mr. Simpson for referring to them as the Gold Diggers. However, they earned the title by their behavior and Mr. Simpson, in my opinion, was simply giving their despicable greed it's rightful name.

Rest in Peace Ron. Your family says they should be paid for that life lost. How much were you worth as a son!? As much as you're worth as a memory?

[weezer]

Originally Posted by Vanillaangel

It should be very interesting to see what happens. The Goldman's , on the day of OJ's arrest in this case, filed to get the memorabilia that was seized as evidence for the criminal case.
TMZ report/link

I know the judge in this case attempted to berate Mr. Simpson for referring to them as the Gold Diggers. However, they earned the title by their behavior and Mr. Simpson, in my opinion, was simply giving their despicable greed it's rightful name.

Rest in Peace Ron. Your family says they should be paid for that life lost. How much were you worth as a son!? As much as you're worth as a memory?

this may just be the first time in 14 years that Ron is resting in peace. His murderer, orenthal james simpson, is behind bars. you obviously feel differently about what price you place on your loved ones -- but then each to his own.