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CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Interview with the Anthonys
Aired December 10, 2008 - 21:00 ET

KING: Now joining us George and Cindy Anthony. They are the grandparents of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony. Their daughter Casey is Caylee's mom and she's in jail now, charged with first degree murder, aggravated child abuse and lying to investigators.

Before we start, let's watch the gripping jailhouse video of Casey talking with her parents.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE ANTHONY, GRANDFATHER OF MISSING CAYLEE ANTHONY: Hey gorgeous, how are you doing?

CASEY ANTHONY, MOTHER OF MISSING CAYLEE ANTHONY: I look like hell.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, you know something, you really need to keep your spirit high for all this.

CASEY ANTHONY: I have. I haven't been crying while I've been in here.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, you know something...

CASEY ANTHONY: I've been trying to read books and do other things to keep my mind off of stuff.

CINDY ANTHONY, GRANDMOTHER OF MISSING CAYLEE ANTHONY: Listen, I'm in front of the cameras all the time.

What message do you want me to give to Zanny and to Kate and to Caylee?

CASEY ANTHONY: A short...

CINDY ANTHONY: What do you want me to tell Zanny?

CASEY ANTHONY: That she needs to return Caylee. I forgive her.

CINDY ANTHONY: What do you think her reasons are?

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I don't know.

CINDY ANTHONY: OK.

CASEY ANTHONY: I forgive her. My only concern is that Caylee comes back to us and she's smiling and she's happy and that she is -- she's OK.

CINDY ANTHONY: OK.

What do you want me to tell Caylee?

CASEY ANTHONY: That mommy loves her very much and she's the most important thing in this entire world to me. And to be brave.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: By the way, you heard that -- on that tape -- a reference to Zanny, who Casey claimed was the little girl's nanny -- the woman who allegedly kidnapped her. That woman says she didn't even know the family and has been cleared by police.

There's a lot to cover with the Anthonys. We're glad to have them here. We'll get into it right after the break.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KING: We now welcome George and Cindy Anthony, the grandparents of the missing Florida toddler, Caylee Anthony. They last saw her in mid-June.

How are you holding up?

CINDY ANTHONY: We take one day at a time. You know, it's very hard -- a lot of sleep lost, lost a lot of weight. You know, we just take one day at a time.

KING: When did you last see Caylee?

GEORGE ANTHONY: I last saw her on June 16th, the day after Father's Day.

KING: What happened the day she went missing?

CINDY ANTHONY: We actually didn't find out until July so...

KING: She had been missing how long when you found out?

CINDY ANTHONY: About a month. And...

KING: Isn't that strange?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, not really. My daughter, you know, had her. And, you know, we just -- we just assumed that Casey and Caylee were, you know, off visiting friends. KING: George, why wouldn't your daughter have called you and say Caylee's gone?

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GEORGE ANTHONY: That's really a good question. I -- I know we kept in contact with her -- at least Cindy did -- almost every day or every other day -- a little text message here and there. And everything was fine.

KING: So what do you make of it?

I mean, she's your daughter. You have to have some -- why wouldn't she not -- why would she tell you -- not tell you?

CINDY ANTHONY: I think she's -- I think she was frightened. I think, from what we understand, that, you know, there's been threats to not only Caylee's well-being, but also to our family's well-being.

KING: By?

CINDY ANTHONY: By the people that have Caylee.

KING: You think Caylee was taken. Your daughter obviously knew she was taken.

CINDY ANTHONY: Um-hmm.

KING: For what purpose?

CINDY ANTHONY: You know, I'm still trying to sort that out. You know, the person that originally has her or had her, we've had three or four different sightings with the same description that Casey released -- that they finally released on this person. And the Zenaida that the police department tracked down was one out of thousands that Casey said right from the beginning was not the correct person.

They just now released, within a couple of weeks ago, the actual description of the baby-sitter. And we've had three -- that I'm aware of -- tips that have come in since June of people who described this person to a tee that had Caylee.

KING: What does your daughter think, George?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, our daughter thinks that Caylee needs to be found. And she said...

KING: No, I mean what does she think happened?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Oh. She's already told us that this Zanny, this baby-sitter, is the one that has her.

KING: Who denies it?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, the one that -- like Cindy just said about the one that the sheriff's department, our local sheriff's department, had brought to my daughter's attention, it's not her. It's just not her. KING: Let's go back to July 15th. Cindy, here's part of the 911 call that you made.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 911.

What's your emergency?

CINDY ANTHONY: I called a little bit ago. The deputy sheriff is not here. I found out my granddaughter has been taken. She has been missing for a month. I told you my daughter was missing for a month. I just found her today, but I can't find my granddaughter. And she just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself. There's something wrong. I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damned car.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

KING: Did you suspect your daughter?

CINDY ANTHONY: No.

KING: Never in all of this?

CINDY ANTHONY: Never.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Never.

CINDY ANTHONY: I have not. From day one, I haven't. You know, Casey has been a loving, very caring mother. And I could see that first night that she was very frightened when the sheriff's department arrived at the house. I mean she was devastated. She was on the floor just beside herself. And she has been very emotional since day one, which hasn't been reported. Her main focus has been the same as ours, it's been looking -- it's been looking for Caylee since the very beginning.

KING: When they arrested her, were you shocked, George?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Oh, absolutely. When they took her into custody the very first time, I was just appalled because I wanted them to -- and I wanted to put an AMBER Alert out for my granddaughter, which they never did. They never contacted the FBI that I wanted them to contact. I mean, I have a little bit of knowledge on some stuff and you would really think that they would want to have some -- someone wanting to have helped them assist trying to find this beautiful three year little old girl. And all I was trying to do was trying to help them and they haven't...

KING: But why do you think they wouldn't?

GEORGE ANTHONY: They had their mind made up.

CINDY ANTHONY: They had their mind made up. You know, they picked out... GEORGE ANTHONY: (INAUDIBLE).

CINDY ANTHONY: ...Zenaida Gonzalez. They picked out a 38-year-old woman when Casey told them it was a 24-year-old woman. They picked out someone that had children...

KING: As the nanny, you mean?

CINDY ANTHONY: Right. And she told them she had no children.

You know, they, from the very beginning, decided how this was going to take place. They made judgment on her within two hours of having her in custody. And that's the way it's been. They have not assisted us into looking into finding Caylee.

KING: And they said...

CINDY ANTHONY: And we believe she is alive.

KING: I gather. I want to get to that.

Have they set a trial date?

CINDY ANTHONY: Right now, January 5th.

KING: And no death penalty, right?

CINDY ANTHONY: No death penalty.

KING: They removed -- they had it and then removed it?

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CINDY ANTHONY: They removed it. GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes.

KING: We'll be right back with George and Cindy Anthony on this education of LARRY KING LIVE.

The Anthonys have a Web site -- helpfindcaylee.com.

If you have something today -- to say, rather -- let's hear it at our Web site, CNN.com/larryking. And we'll air some of your comments later in the show.

We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CINDY ANTHONY: Casey, you don't realize the whole United States is looking for Caylee.

CASEY ANTHONY: I know that, mom.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: We're back.

Casey Anthony, by the way, was interviewed by members of the Orange County Sheriff's Office July 16th.

Here's part of that.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why didn't you call prior to today?

CASEY ANTHONY: I think part of me was naive enough to think that I could handle this myself, which obviously I couldn't. And I was scared that something would happen to her if I did notify the authorities or got the media involved or my parents, which I know would have done the same thing.

Just the fear of the unknown -- fear of the potential of Caylee getting hurt, of not seeing my daughter again.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: Why do you think she was arrested and charged, George?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Because they had their -- like Cindy said, they had their mind made up. It was too easy for them to just close the book on this and say well, we're going to charge you with your daughter's disappearance and just be done with it.

KING: Did they ever look at why a mother would kill her daughter?

I mean, did anyone ever question motive?

CINDY ANTHONY: Right. There is no motive and they haven't found a motive. They even said they haven't found a motive. They -- they told us they thought it was an accident and she's scared and she's trying to cover it up.

KING: Killed her by accident and then...

CINDY ANTHONY: Right.

KING: ...buried her or something.

CINDY ANTHONY: Right, they don't feel there's the motive.

KING: Have they looked for the child?

CINDY ANTHONY: We have had five searches done by the sheriff's department, done by Tim Miller with Texas EquuSearch.

KING: I know him.

CINDY ANTHONY: And it's come up with nothing. There's nothing that they have found that, you know, has given them any evidence that Caylee is no longer with us.

KING: Where do you think she is, George?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Oh, Caylee? She's with hopefully a loving family that's taking care of her.

CINDY ANTHONY: We got a tip today.

KING: Today?

CINDY ANTHONY: Today, at 4:00 today. Right now, being investigated by --

KING: What was the tip?

CINDY ANTHONY: In Tennessee.

KING: Someone spotted a girl who looked like her?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yeah, at a grocery store in Tennessee. And my investigators have already spoken with the Tennessee authorities and also the tipster and we're just waiting to see if there's any video in the store.

KING: You realize if they find Caylee, this is a terrible miscarriage of justice.

CINDY ANTHONY: It's been a terrible miscarriage of justice.

KING: However, you must understand the authorities' viewpoint here. Here they are with the dilemma of this woman, a nanny says I didn't do it, I wasn't with her. She waits a month before telling -- I mean, they certainly have grounds for suspicion, don't you think?

CINDY ANTHONY: No, they looked at one Zenaida Gonzalez, one Zenaida. They told us there was only one in our area. There was 11 just in Orlando. They picked out one. Casey told them to check New York or Miami because she had a New York license. She told them that. They pulled up an Ohio license.

Bottom line is Caylee is out there. We have had people from June 20th who have given us sworn statements that they have seen Caylee in Orlando. We have sworn statements from July 2nd. We have people that are out there, can't sleep at night because they have seen her in July. We have people that we met last night that saw her in California just two weeks ago. How do you fight with someone or, you know, say if they're sitting four feet away from this child and they say they're positive that this is Caylee? Because they have seen her picture for the last six months, four feet.

KING: How old would she be now?

CINDY ANTHONY: Three.

KING: Let's listen to a bit more of Casey's July 16th interview with authorities.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) INVESTIGATOR: Was there anything that you want to change or divert from what you have already told me?

CASEY ANTHONY: No, sir.

INVESTIGATOR: Did you cause any injury to your child, Caylee?

CASEY ANTHONY: No, sir.

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INVESTIGATOR: Did you hurt Caylee or leave her somewhere and you're worried that if we find that out, that people are going to look at you the wrong way?

CASEY ANTHONY: No, sir.

INVESTIGATOR: And you're telling me that Zenaida took your child without your permission and hasn't returned her?

CASEY ANTHONY: She's the last person that I've seen with my daughter.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

KING: Let's take a call. Winston-Salem, North Carolina, for George and Cindy Anthony. Hello.

CALLER: Hello, George and Cindy. I am so sorry for the trouble that your family has been going through. I just wanted to ask you, Cindy. When you first called police, you said something like it smelled like there was a dead body in the trunk of your daughter's car. And more recently you said that you believe that it was maybe old pizza. And I was just calling wondering why you changed your mind on that.

CINDY ANTHONY: I changed my mind on that -- I never changed my mind on that. What I stated was the car smelled, OK. I was told by my husband and also by the gentleman at the tow yard that there was a bag of food that contained pizza and maggots in the car. I went down and I spoke myself with the manager of the tow company, and he told us that that was the cause of the smell in the car. I don't know if anybody that has ever smelled decay of food that's been in a car trunk for 19 days in Florida heat. I have opened my refrigerator and made the comment, something died in here.

KING: We'll take a break and come back. The Orange County sheriff's department released this statement tonight for us. "From the beginning, our desire was to find Caylee Marie Anthony alive and well. Evidence unfortunately revealed that we are looking for a deceased child. The sheriff's office got involved because Cindy Anthony called us about her missing granddaughter. The resulting investigation led to a grand jury indictment of Casey Anthony for murder in the first degree. Our hearts go out to the Anthonys for the extremely difficult time they're living through."

We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KING: A beautiful little girl. Following Casey's arrest in July on child neglect and other charges, George and Cindy visited her in jail. Here is some of the surveillance video from that.

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CASEY ANTHONY: I don't care what I have to do. When I told them I would lie, I would steal, I would do whatever by any means to get her back. That's exactly how I feel, it's the truth.

CINDY ANTHONY: Casey, we have to find her before her third birthday. That's coming up fast.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: There were reports, photo shots, I think, of your daughter partying a lot and out having a good time during all this, while her daughter is missing. Explain that.

CINDY ANTHONY: There was one photo out of all of the photos that has been shown of her partying that was after June 16th, one. And what we have learned that that is a staged photo. That those are photos that they used to entice other people to come into that club. She would have gotten paid for that photo. So, in fact, she was working. And we have proof of that.

KING: Where George, is Caylee's father?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Caylee's father lived somewhere in the Carolinas I believed at one point. He's deceased. He passed away right around her second birthday.

KING: Oh, so she was still around when he died.

CINDY ANTHONY: Right, he was never part of her life.

KING: Sioux Falls, South Dakota, hello.

CALLER: Thank you, Larry. My question is for George. George, removing yourself from your family, I know you are a professional in the department. What was your professional opinion of the smell in that trunk?

GEORGE ANTHONY: My professional opinion is I never really realized how long it would take garbage to smell for 19 days or 18 days inside of a car in Florida, to be honest with you.

KING: What do you do, George?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Right now, I'm in the security field. Been in law enforcement for years, I sort of stayed in the security field off and on all the years.

KING: Were you in law enforcement in Orlando?

GEORGE ANTHONY: No, never was in Orlando, now. I was in law enforcement 20-some odd years ago.

KING: So you would understand law enforcement psyche?

GEORGE ANTHONY: To a point, yes, possibly, yes. But then again, I know what I feel inside, that that's like Cindy says. Inside that bag was garbage. It really was. It was pizza. I mean, I've seen it. I know what was in there.

KING: And there's no way you can fathom, Cindy, your daughter harming your granddaughter?

CINDY ANTHONY: No, there's nobody that has come forward that has ever seen or said anything other than that Caylee (sic) was an excellent mother. So there's -- Casey has done nothing to her daughter. There's no evidence that shows that, and I can with 100 percent of my being say that I believe that Casey had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance.

KING: We have a little more to show you from inside the jailhouse, watch.

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CINDY ANTHONY: What's your gut telling you right now?

CASEY ANTHONY: That she's OK.

CINDY ANTHONY: OK. And your gut tells you she's close or she's hiding?

CASEY ANTHONY: She's not far. I know in my heart she's not far. I can feel it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: Oh, boy. This is -- are you optimistic that you're going to find Caylee? I mean, how do you feel about it? It's been a long time.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, over the last several weeks we have gotten probably our best sightings. We had one in the middle of November, right in Orlando. Two women, very credible, were within 10 feet of her, watched her for 20 minutes, took photographs of her. This last couple that we met last night saw her a week after that point, were within four feet of her.

KING: So she's somewhere, you think?

CINDY ANTHONY: Absolutely.

KING: We'll see what you're saying on the blogs tonight in 60 seconds. Stick around.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KING: We're back. Let's hear what you're talking about tonight. Here's our own David Theall with the blog report. David?

DAVID THEALL, LARRY KING LIVE PRODUCER: Larry, as you know, in advance of their appearance tonight, George and Cindy provided us with a guest commentary that we posted on your blog. This is one of those stories that garners a lot of comments. The vast majority of them are critical of George, Cindy, and their daughter Casey. Not all of them, however.

Nikki belongs in that camp. Nikki says, "I don't understand how anybody can attack George and Cindy. Nobody knows for sure how they would react if put in this situation." Crystal says, "I have become addicted to this story and I cannot help but lean to the facts that show most likely this child is no longer in the flesh."

As I said, the vast majority of people on your blog right now, Larry, are critical of the Anthonys. Barbara belongs in that camp. She says, "Your daughter holds the truth no matter how bad it will be to hear."

And Lisa says this, "The enabling of Casey needs to end now."

This conversation is going to continue on your blog. You can read the exclusive guest commentary from the Anthonys in which they battle this public perception of their family and of this case. It's at CNN.com/LarryKing. Look for the live blog link. Click it, come on in.

KING: Thank you, David. And when we come back with our remaining moments with George and Cindy, we'll find out why they think most people are against them, if that's true. More of your calls too, after the break.

CINDY ANTHONY: Because they only hear one side of the story. They only see what is put out there by the Nancy Graces of the world and the Leonard Padillas of the world. They don't look at themselves and look at their own families and figure out what they would do if one of their children was missing.

You know, there's a very -- there's a lot of people that are in our shoes. And there's a lot of people that will do one of several things. They'll either go into a recluse and they'll just withdraw. You could do that. Or you could get up every morning and you could fight for the people that you love.

And we're not going to -- I'm not going to sit back and worry about what people think about us, because my focus is on Caylee. And anybody that wants to criticize me for that, that's their problem.

KING: Has Nancy Grace convicted your daughter?

CINDY ANTHONY: Absolutely. Nancy Grace is the reason there are people out there -- but I tell you what, there's just as many people that watch Nancy Grace that only watch her because they don't have local media like we do in Orlando, keeping up with Caylee. That's their only outlet. They don't believe in the things she's doing. In fact, it's fact they tell us when this is all done, when Caylee is home, they're never going to watch her again.

KING: Thank you both very much. And their Web site, if you want to keep in touch is helpfindcaylee.com. Helpfindcaylee.com.

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Larry King Dec 10_Geroge and Cindy Anthony Interview_part 2

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The body has been found, that seems to be little Caylee. In a wooded area very near the elementary school Casey and Lee attended as children, and friends say the always hung out, buried their pets, etc. Water from Hurricane Faye had been standing there for some time. It was only 15 houses away from the Anthony home. Casey had kept saying she felt Caylee was close by.

Minute investigation of the scene is continuing. Animals had scattered some of the bones, so it's like an archeological dig, about an acre wide.

The defense may try to make the meter reader a suspect, who'd worked in that area and called police in August regarding a "grey" bag by the side of the road. He was assigned somewhere else for a while, then back to the same area, and was looking around again. Some feel that seeing bags twice was too much of a coincidence. I don't know. Would we all tend to assume she might be in a garbage bag? He kicked or picked up the BLACK bag and the little skull rolled out, a week ago Thurs, about 9:30 AM.

And it was mentioned on CNN's Jane Valez Mitchell's program that there's a childrens' book with a Zanny the Nanny character. They said it had been mentioned on Nancy Grace, early on. I do hope when LE took things from the Anthony home, they took Caylee's books. That's evidently where that alibi comes from. She didn't think the public would know about the book?

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Ok my problem with this couple

At first when CA called the LE about the car and her daughter stealing.
Tried to backtrack.
Also the father about the smell of the car then changed it to
squirrels and PIzza as did CA?


look they will go through the stages of grief.

One this sure,
I noticed they emphasized a missing childrens something or other.So they plan to use Caylee's name for something dealing with missing children?
but there are so many programs in the name of missing children dealing with the perps and new laws in regard to them.But what could their program be for?
I mean their daughter had the girl last/
So what in the world would the new Law or foundation do?

Pay for more search programs/
or what?

They dissed Eq search and TIM MILLER was nothing but extra kind to them and did want to help both he nad the bounty hunter were right about Caylee being dead.

The good thing about this case is that
no matter how they backtrack the proof is on video.
So??

I just wonder how many times LK will have them on now and why?
I am sick of spinning stories they tell and get nowhere.

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I have a sibling who is a habitual liar. He will lie about anything to get attenion because he is very sefish. He once lied about being mugged while walking through the park at night and even had the balls to go report it to ploice, but my father noticed the attack he described was exactly like an episode of law and order that was on the previous evening. I think that the Anthony's are very aware of how their daughter weaves webs of deceit, and now that she's gone far enough to be in real trouble, they are trying to cover their butts so they don't end up in some sort of trouble.
Whenever there is a high profile crime, and the preps parents have a high level of interaction with them during the time of the crime, the parents always look for something to use a scapegoat. I've heard it from my brother's own lips that the best way to get someone to believe your lies is to repeat them enough to believe them yourself. Any tears the Anthony family sheds are for show, I saw the real tears for Caylee this morning on the Today show where the ex-fiance was talking about the case. That was so hard to watch.
Also CA should have thought alittle bit more when she came up with Zanny the Nanny. Its pure coincidence that there was a woman with the same name in the area. If she really wanted a dead end with the Latino nanny excuse she should have jus been generic with the name and said Maria.
(No offense to any Latinos)

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Originally Posted by delaineyrae

I have a sibling who is a habitual liar. He will lie about anything to get attenion because he is very sefish. He once lied about being mugged while walking through the park at night and even had the balls to go report it to ploice, but my father noticed the attack he described was exactly like an episode of law and order that was on the previous evening. I think that the Anthony's are very aware of how their daughter weaves webs of deceit, and now that she's gone far enough to be in real trouble, they are trying to cover their butts so they don't end up in some sort of trouble.
Whenever there is a high profile crime, and the preps parents have a high level of interaction with them during the time of the crime, the parents always look for something to use a scapegoat. I've heard it from my brother's own lips that the best way to get someone to believe your lies is to repeat them enough to believe them yourself. Any tears the Anthony family sheds are for show, I saw the real tears for Caylee this morning on the Today show where the ex-fiance was talking about the case. That was so hard to watch.
Also CA should have thought alittle bit more when she came up with Zanny the Nanny. Its pure coincidence that there was a woman with the same name in the area. If she really wanted a dead end with the Latino nanny excuse she should have jus been generic with the name and said Maria.
(No offense to any Latinos)

Wonderful post delaineyrae! We have a similar issues with a family member and I can relate to what you are saying.