Goldman's family: Simpson prison time is `karma'

[samanthajane13]

NEW YORK – O.J. Simpson's rambling apology in a Las Vegas courtroom was the last-ditch bid for leniency by a "monster," the family of Ron Goldman said Monday.

"I don't believe for one single second he has an ounce of remorse in his body," Fred Goldman said on NBC's "Today." "He's never apologized for anything that he's horribly done in his life."

Goldman said Simpson's emotional, five-minute plea Friday over his confrontation last year with sports memorabilia dealers was that of "a monster who was simply trying to find a way to get the judge to give him a better deal."

Simpson was sentenced to 9 to 33 years in prison on 12 charges, including kidnapping and armed robbery, in the confrontation over collectibles that the former football star insisted were stolen from him.

Simpson's Oct. 3 conviction with a co-defendant in the Las Vegas case came 13 years to the day after he was cleared in the slaying of Ron Goldman and Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson.

"Some sort of karma. And good karma," Fred Goldman said Monday of the conviction on that anniversary. "It is remarkable that, ultimately, now, we have seen him go to jail."

In a 1997 civil trial, Simpson was found liable for the deaths and ordered to pay a $33.5 million judgment to the victims' families.

Ron Goldman's sister, Kim Goldman, called Simpson's Las Vegas sentencing a "good day for us. ... It's been a long time coming."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/..._us/oj_simpson

[William Anthony]

Simpson's Oct. 3 conviction with a co-defendant in the Las Vegas case came 13 years to the day after he was cleared in the slaying of Ron Goldman and Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson.

Karma or jury manipulation intended to send a message?

[utl768]

the goldmans would be wise to just shut up already, the more they press this karma and payback bs the more likely a nevada appelate court is going to agree with oj's defense

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by utl768

the goldmans would be wise to just shut up already, the more they press this karma and payback bs the more likely a nevada appelate court is going to agree with oj's defense

I think it may be too late as the coincidence was readily observable as was the effort of the jury foreman to have the case decided on that date by that jury.

[utl768]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I think it may be too late as the coincidence was readily observable as was the effort of the jury foreman to have the case decided on that date by that jury.

i agree with that def but the goldmans bringing it up everyday in papers, and interviews isnt helping the cause at all

[martin II]

Originally Posted by utl768

the goldmans would be wise to just shut up already, the more they press this karma and payback bs the more likely a nevada appelate court is going to agree with oj's defense

The interjections into the case of the criminal trial and fred by the jury and Glass is in the record for the appeals court to review.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by utl768

i agree with that def but the goldmans bringing it up everyday in papers, and interviews isnt helping the cause at all

Fred has a love affair with tv cameras and i believe that he believes that the public has a obligation to support his actions. After the sentencing he said there will never be a end to his efforts. So my question is how long does he carry this hate or his quest for more celebrity?

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

Fred has a love affair with tv cameras and i believe that he believes that the public has a obligation to support his actions. After the sentencing he said there will never be a end to his efforts. So my question is how long does he carry this hate or his quest for more celebrity?

I would guess until one of them is dead. hopefully that will be orenthal. sorry, but that's the truth for me.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I would guess until one of them is dead. hopefully that will be orenthal. sorry, but that's the truth for me.

Fred is the one that has reserved a large part of his brain for Oj to occupy.He is the one living in a state of hate so it may be that his heart may
get tired of the stress first.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

Fred is the one that has reserved a large part of his brain for Oj to occupy.He is the one living in a state of hate so it may be that his heart may
get tired of the stress first.

looks to me like orenthal has the problem, not Mr. Goldman.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

looks to me like orenthal has the problem, not Mr. Goldman.

Upon close obversation fred looks like a stroke at any moment.he should be careful.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

Upon close obversation fred looks like a stroke at any moment.he should be careful.

I thought he looked just fine.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I thought he looked just fine.

Karma which you believe in so much could come to fred for the hate he carries around and how he seems not to follow the word of god as printed in the bible.

Spending so much of his and others time to fuel his hatred is not healthy but i am sure his health is not a concern for you as your objective is to see him get oj. at any cost.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I would guess until one of them is dead. hopefully that will be orenthal. sorry, but that's the truth for me.

That does not sound like a christian idea to me.

[Kayleighjo]

Originally Posted by martin II

Fred has a love affair with tv cameras and i believe that he believes that the public has a obligation to support his actions. After the sentencing he said there will never be a end to his efforts. So my question is how long does he carry this hate or his quest for more celebrity?

This is definitely a contender for the dumbest post in existence-but considering the person that posted it I'm not surprised.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Kayleighjo

This is definitely a contender for the dumbest post in existence-but considering the person that posted it I'm not surprised.

Your personal problems,Bitterness and hatred comes through quite strong in your post.
I get a kick out of the amount of space you reserves in that small brain of yours for martin.You don't seem to be able to creat a thought without martin being in it.
hahahahaha

[Kayleighjo]

Originally Posted by martin II

Your personal problems,Bitterness and hatred comes through quite strong in your post.
I get a kick out of the amount of space you reserves in that small brain of yours for martin.You don't seem to be able to creat a thought without martin being in it.
hahahahaha

Why martin, who wouldn't reserve a tremendous amount of space in their brains for a character with such dignity and high esteem? If only we could all strive to be just like you ...

But on a serious note-I do tend to give quite a bit of thought to people who come across as stupid as you do-I'm genuinely curious as to how someone becomes so idiotic-perhaps you would be willing to share the secrets? A book maybe ... a sort of "How to Sound Really Stupid for Dummies" type of manual. Just think-it could be a best seller!

[William Anthony]

There does seem to be some sort of attraction. Before anyone says anything, the attraction between what you don't know, Joe and me, is different. Before anyone misunderstands I was saying that the attraction between the first two is mutual.

[Kayleighjo]

Originally Posted by william anthony

there does seem to be some sort of attraction. before anyone says anything, the attraction between what you don't know, joe and me, is different.

lol!

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kayleighjo

lol!

It may not be as bad as you think or I could be wrong.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Kayleighjo

Why martin, who wouldn't reserve a tremendous amount of space in their brains for a character with such dignity and high esteem? If only we could all strive to be just like you ...

But on a serious note-I do tend to give quite a bit of thought to people who come across as stupid as you do-I'm genuinely curious as to how someone becomes so idiotic-perhaps you would be willing to share the secrets? A book maybe ... a sort of "How to Sound Really Stupid for Dummies" type of manual. Just think-it could be a best seller!

Well you may want to claim that you are a victim and this caused you to loose your way in a sea of bitterness and hate. You don't hold any place of importance in my life. Just another confused person.
I do recognize that when you do post the level of personal attacks increases.

There is a old saying:
"Once you go black you never go back"imo

[Kayleighjo]

Originally Posted by martin II

Well you may want to claim that you are a victim and this caused you to loose your way in a sea of bitterness and hate. You don't hold any place of importance in my life. Just another confused person.
I do recognize that when you do post the level of personal attacks increases.

There is a old saying:
"Once you go black you never go back"imo

Why martin, I thought you waved goodbye to me in your last post

[RayStar]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

looks to me like orenthal has the problem, not Mr. Goldman.

I think they both have a problem. I wonder what Fred's BP was like in the courtroom. Probably at an unhealthly rate.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Kayleighjo

Why martin, I thought you waved goodbye to me in your last post

I did but considering the dire strates you seem to be in i thought you needed to get back what you gave.

Try not to forget 'once you go black you don't go back"

Deal with your situation and leave my post alone.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by RayStar

I think they both have a problem. I wonder what Fred's BP was like in the courtroom. Probably at an unhealthly rate.

Like 200 over 100 and pulse 150 because of stress.

[Kayleighjo]

Originally Posted by martin II

I did but considering the dire strates you seem to be in i thought you needed to get back what you gave.

Try not to forget 'once you go black you don't go back"

Deal with your situation and leave my post alone.

Do you mean dire straits? Oh but martin, you keep me so entertained-how could I possibly find it in me to leave your insightful and educational posts alone??

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Kayleighjo

Do you mean dire straits? Oh but martin, you keep me so entertained-how could I possibly find it in me to leave your insightful and educational posts alone??

Simple. hatred, bitterness and personal confusion and some nonsnse that you are better.

I am not responsible for your troubled life. You are.
Hope you got that. But i am not sure you have the capacity to do so.
hahahaha

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by RayStar

I think they both have a problem. I wonder what Fred's BP was like in the courtroom. Probably at an unhealthly rate.

I think they both may have had the same BP rate.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by RayStar

I think they both have a problem. I wonder what Fred's BP was like in the courtroom. Probably at an unhealthly rate.

you are probably right about the blood pressure but I think it's obvious that the person with the problem in that courtroom was orenthal.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

you are probably right about the blood pressure but I think it's obvious that the person with the problem in that courtroom was orenthal.

OJ know he is in jail.fred does not know what stress has in the plan for his heart. He looks like he may be ready to fold over any monent.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

OJ know he is in jail.fred does not know what stress has in the plan for his heart. He looks like he may be ready to fold over any monent.

I hope orenthal 'know' he is in jail. Mr. Goldman looks well and seemed fine. Especially when you compare him to that sniveling, quivering piece of . . . that was being sentenced.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

you are probably right about the blood pressure but I think it's obvious that the person with the problem in that courtroom was orenthal.

You would like for fred to do what he does not for the benefit of fred but to satisfy what you would like to be discussed so you could pretend to be informed and knowledgable.It all fails.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

You would like for fred to do what he does not for the benefit of fred but to satisfy what you would like to be discussed so you could pretend to be informed and knowledgable.It all fails.

I believe the Goldmans and Browns have the right to do whatever they want to do -- don't you?

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

you are probably right about the blood pressure but I think it's obvious that the person with the problem in that courtroom was orenthal.

They both appeared to have their own cross to bear, imho.

[Kayleighjo]

Originally Posted by martin II

Simple. hatred, bitterness and personal confusion and some nonsnse that you are better.

I am not responsible for your troubled life. You are.
Hope you got that. But i am not sure you have the capacity to do so.
hahahaha

Nope you're not responsible for any part of my life but you are responsible for the fact that you act like an idiot. But I am not sure that you have the capacity to act any other way. hahahaha

Though it's flattering that even though you keep waving goodbye to me in posts you still come back but don't worry-your secret's safe with me

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by martin II

Fred has a love affair with tv cameras and i believe that he believes that the public has a obligation to support his actions. After the sentencing he said there will never be a end to his efforts. So my question is how long does he carry this hate or his quest for more celebrity?

I would assume he will continue his efforts until the moment he passes away, and I personally cannot fathom considering his efforts a quest for more celebrity. It tends to make my stomach turn.

Kate

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by RayStar

I think they both have a problem. I wonder what Fred's BP was like in the courtroom. Probably at an unhealthly rate.

I imagine it has been at an unhealthy rate since the moment he was notified that his son was murdered.

Kate