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Old 12-04-2008, 03:33 AM
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Hello everyone!
I made a little questionnaire about serial killers that I would find interesting to see what you had to say about. Itīs not a test in your knowledge about them, just questions about your thoughts about them. I hope you would like to participate !

I know there are lots and lots of serial killers out there so I would like the questions only to be about the most famous cases so we know who the person to your answer is. Iīve listed these people to be part in my questionnaire:
Jack The Ripper, H.H Holmes, Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, BTK-killer, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, Edmund Kemper, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz (son of sam), Albert Desalvo (Boston strangler), Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono (The hillside stranglers), Charles Manson, The Zodiac, Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, Fred West, Henry Lee Lucas, Moses Sithole, Richard Chase, Richard Speck, Dennis Nielsen, Aileen Wuornus and Harold Chipman.
(Did I forget someone high profile? Just tell me and weīll add that person)

Ok, here we go - my 11 questions:
(please answer them with why you think this way, not just a name)

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak)

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of?

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with?

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster?

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look?

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)

7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable?

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent?

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you?

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person?

*The End*
I hope you would like to take your time and answer, it would be an interesting read to see how you think and believe! And hopefully just as interesting to you aswell!

Take Care,
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Hello everyone!
I made a little questionnaire about serial killers that I would find interesting to see what you had to say about. Itīs not a test in your knowledge about them, just questions about your thoughts about them. I hope you would like to participate !

I know there are lots and lots of serial killers out there so I would like the questions only to be about the most famous cases so we know who the person to your answer is. Iīve listed these people to be part in my questionnaire:
Jack The Ripper, H.H Holmes, Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, BTK-killer, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, Edmund Kemper, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz (son of sam), Albert Desalvo (Boston strangler), Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono (The hillside stranglers), Charles Manson, The Zodiac, Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, Fred West, Henry Lee Lucas, Moses Sithole, Richard Chase, Richard Speck, Dennis Nielsen, Aileen Wuornus and Harold Chipman.
(Did I forget someone high profile? Just tell me and weīll add that person)

Ok, here we go - my 11 questions:
(please answer them with why you think this way, not just a name)

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak)

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of?

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with?

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster?

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look?

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)

7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable?

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent?

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you?

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person?

*The End*
I hope you would like to take your time and answer, it would be an interesting read to see how you think and believe! And hopefully just as interesting to you aswell!

Take Care,
Jenna
All of the above are VERY creepy, and not trustworthy. IMO, the last man standing might be JTR, only because we don't know who he was, or what kind of personality he had. He could be a shadow in the jail cell, and take them all out, one by one. To spend a week with one of these freaks? If HAD to choose, it might be Eileen Wurnos, because she only killed men. I would have her handcuffed, and gagged the whole time, though. The one that I would be terrified of? Ted Bundy. The two that look the most evil, are Charles Manson, and Richard Ramirez. Charles Manson has the coldest, darkest, most evil look in his wide eyed eyes. And Richard Ramirez just looks like Satan himself. I think anyone of us, not knowing the true nature of these freaks, could very easily be drawn in by their wiles and ways of getting victims. That is the scariest thought of all.
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:16 PM
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Jack. I'd sit down across a dinner table with him (with security - I don't think my boy was stable) and ask why and how. I'd really like to know the answers.
Thanks for answering If youīve got the time and feel like it, it would be fun to hear your answer to the other questions aswell. I find it interesting how people , having heard the same stories and "facts" about these people, have so many different opinions and feelings about the same case and man. How different our perceptions are and how much they vary! Since Iīm obviously interested in crime and especially serial killers, itīs very interesting to hear how other ppl reason in this matter !
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All of the above are VERY creepy, and not trustworthy. IMO, the last man standing might be JTR, only because we don't know who he was, or what kind of personality he had. He could be a shadow in the jail cell, and take them all out, one by one. To spend a week with one of these freaks? If HAD to choose, it might be Eileen Wurnos, because she only killed men. I would have her handcuffed, and gagged the whole time, though. The one that I would be terrified of? Ted Bundy. The two that look the most evil, are Charles Manson, and Richard Ramirez. Charles Manson has the coldest, darkest, most evil look in his wide eyed eyes. And Richard Ramirez just looks like Satan himself. I think anyone of us, not knowing the true nature of these freaks, could very easily be drawn in by their wiles and ways of getting victims. That is the scariest thought of all.
And a thanks to you too for wanting to participate in my silly little test

To share with you my own opinions this is how I see and feel things:
Andrei Chikatilo has the perfect face of a serial killer to me. This is how I imagine in my head how a serial killer should look like. He looks like this incomprehensible ugly, cruel/evil psycho! The type of person no one should never ever take a ride with or take a walk in the dark woods with ALONE. Heīs a highly suspicious and creapy looking man. If I had never seen him and someone asked me how I would describe how a serial killer would look like according to me, I would have described this guy. Heīs very scary and unpleasant to look at and although Iīve seen almost every documentary about serial killers on you tube, this one I avoid! He just disgust me!
Ramirez and Manson has nothing on this guy!!
Iīve never seen Manson through your eyes obviously because to me, he doesnīt look either scary or evil. He just looks like a man who belongs in a mental institution. Heīs just plain crazy!!

If I had to spend an entire week 24/7 with one of them I would pick the person Iīm least afraid of and that is the same as yours, Aileen W. Not only because she was only killing men but also because she was not a "thrill-killer". She didnīt like killing or doing anything weird with their bodies afterwards. She wouldnīt mutilate or dismember the bodies , have sex with their corpses and other sick things. Also she didnīt torture her victims for hours or days like some serial killers do. Uhm...almost making her out to be a saint here but thatīs not my intention I promise . She is just the least scary of the bunch to me.
Then the opposite...I wouldnīt want to be alone with many of the others for even a minute. To mention the first names that come to mind would be Bundy, Ramirez and Leonard Lake. Evil to the bone and with absolutely no self control. Act on impulses without any sympathy or compassion for anyone, not even themselves.

The most evil and cold-hearted among this bunch of sociopaths is not easy to say since they all are. But if I had to draw a name from the group Iīd say either Leonard Lake, BTK or Albert Fish. There is nothing human in those people!!
Then the most sensitive, caring and truely remorseful individual in the group is really hard to say! cause we all know that sociopaths very easily manipulate you and lie to get what they want, when they want it and how they want it!They try to make you believe what they want you to believe etc. But still, my guess would be either Gein, Berkowitz, Dahmer or Henry Lee Lucas. I donīt think Gein was really an evil person, just very very lonely and miserable to the point where he got insane to such a degree that he no longer understood what he was doing. I donīt believe he was truely a hateful person, just a very very very sick, crazy and untalented man. He was probably not very clever and my odds would be on him having a very low IQ, maybe to such a low degree that you could actually call him retarted.
With Berkowitz I have my doubts if the change in him he claims to have gone through in prison is sincere. But it very well could be. I donīt think if he got out of prison that he would go back to murder. I think he has changed to some degree anyway.
And having Jeffrey Dahmer here may sound really weird but Iīve always felt with him that he was such a lost, lonely, sad and scared little boy. An he too, like Aileen, was not into killing for the thrill. He didnīt actually want them to be dead but could obviously in his twisted mind not see how he could keep them with him in any other way. And the fact that he had to be intoxicated to be able to do it shows me that heīs not in the same legaue as his fellow killers. Also, he intoxicated the victims too so many of them probably never understood what was coming to them.
Henry Lee Lucas was one very disturbed man. But did he actually kill all those people or was he just a pathological lier? In the later confessions he did when he said he had made it all up I almost felt sorry for the old man. Either he fooled me totally with the tears and sorrow in the eye(s) but I actually felt when I saw him that he was sincere and seemed to be very ashamed of what he had done. Either it was true or it was another one of his lies that this time, seemed quite honest and real.

The most intelligent: Edmund Kemper first and second Ted Bundy.
The most stupid: Richard x 3! Ramirez, Chase and Speck! (Richard doesnīt seem to be a very fortunate name!?!) Not far behind would be Leonard Lake, Henry Lee Lucas and Gary Ridgeway.

Weeeiii...This must have been the longest comment in here ever! Haha... *Sorry* Almost halfway through a book *Lol*! So I better stop here before I bore you to death, if anyone acually has read this far!
Iīd very much like it if you would reflect on my thoughts and share with me your own!
Take Care now, time for me to go to bed...
//Jenna
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:48 PM
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You're a real night owl...

R.T. Chase was never certified insane by the court. Gein was certified unfit to stand trial. You forgot to list Chikatilo; you mention him in your answers. But there's so many names missing that it's impossible to answer in any meaningful way.

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Jack the Ripper, H.H Holmes, Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Dennis Rader, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, Edmund Kemper, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz (Son of Sam), Albert Desalvo (Boston strangler), Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono (the Hillside Stranglers), Charles Manson, The Zodiac, Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, Fred West, Henry Lee Lucas, Moses Sithole, Richard Chase, Richard Speck, Dennis Nielsen, Aileen Wuornus and Harold Shipman.

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak)

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of?

3.... And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with?

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster?

5.... And who doesn't? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look?

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etcetera than the others? (Not compared to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)

7....And who seems to have no heart at all; 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable?

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent?

10. If you didn't know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you?

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but I'm not sure that's correct at all). Mention at least one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person?)
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And a thanks to you too for wanting to participate in my silly little test

To share with you my own opinions this is how I see and feel things:
Andrei Chikatilo has the perfect face of a serial killer to me. This is how I imagine in my head how a serial killer should look like. He looks like this incomprehensible ugly, cruel/evil psycho! The type of person no one should never ever take a ride with or take a walk in the dark woods with ALONE. Heīs a highly suspicious and creapy looking man. If I had never seen him and someone asked me how I would describe how a serial killer would look like according to me, I would have described this guy. Heīs very scary and unpleasant to look at and although Iīve seen almost every documentary about serial killers on you tube, this one I avoid! He just disgust me!
Ramirez and Manson has nothing on this guy!!
Iīve never seen Manson through your eyes obviously because to me, he doesnīt look either scary or evil. He just looks like a man who belongs in a mental institution. Heīs just plain crazy!!

If I had to spend an entire week 24/7 with one of them I would pick the person Iīm least afraid of and that is the same as yours, Aileen W. Not only because she was only killing men but also because she was not a "thrill-killer". She didnīt like killing or doing anything weird with their bodies afterwards. She wouldnīt mutilate or dismember the bodies , have sex with their corpses and other sick things. Also she didnīt torture her victims for hours or days like some serial killers do. Uhm...almost making her out to be a saint here but thatīs not my intention I promise . She is just the least scary of the bunch to me.
Then the opposite...I wouldnīt want to be alone with many of the others for even a minute. To mention the first names that come to mind would be Bundy, Ramirez and Leonard Lake. Evil to the bone and with absolutely no self control. Act on impulses without any sympathy or compassion for anyone, not even themselves.

The most evil and cold-hearted among this bunch of sociopaths is not easy to say since they all are. But if I had to draw a name from the group Iīd say either Leonard Lake, BTK or Albert Fish. There is nothing human in those people!!
Then the most sensitive, caring and truely remorseful individual in the group is really hard to say! cause we all know that sociopaths very easily manipulate you and lie to get what they want, when they want it and how they want it!They try to make you believe what they want you to believe etc. But still, my guess would be either Gein, Berkowitz, Dahmer or Henry Lee Lucas. I donīt think Gein was really an evil person, just very very lonely and miserable to the point where he got insane to such a degree that he no longer understood what he was doing. I donīt believe he was truely a hateful person, just a very very very sick, crazy and untalented man. He was probably not very clever and my odds would be on him having a very low IQ, maybe to such a low degree that you could actually call him retarted.
With Berkowitz I have my doubts if the change in him he claims to have gone through in prison is sincere. But it very well could be. I donīt think if he got out of prison that he would go back to murder. I think he has changed to some degree anyway.
And having Jeffrey Dahmer here may sound really weird but Iīve always felt with him that he was such a lost, lonely, sad and scared little boy. An he too, like Aileen, was not into killing for the thrill. He didnīt actually want them to be dead but could obviously in his twisted mind not see how he could keep them with him in any other way. And the fact that he had to be intoxicated to be able to do it shows me that heīs not in the same legaue as his fellow killers. Also, he intoxicated the victims too so many of them probably never understood what was coming to them.
Henry Lee Lucas was one very disturbed man. But did he actually kill all those people or was he just a pathological lier? In the later confessions he did when he said he had made it all up I almost felt sorry for the old man. Either he fooled me totally with the tears and sorrow in the eye(s) but I actually felt when I saw him that he was sincere and seemed to be very ashamed of what he had done. Either it was true or it was another one of his lies that this time, seemed quite honest and real.

The most intelligent: Edmund Kemper first and second Ted Bundy.
The most stupid: Richard x 3! Ramirez, Chase and Speck! (Richard doesnīt seem to be a very fortunate name!?!) Not far behind would be Leonard Lake, Henry Lee Lucas and Gary Ridgeway.

Weeeiii...This must have been the longest comment in here ever! Haha... *Sorry* Almost halfway through a book *Lol*! So I better stop here before I bore you to death, if anyone acually has read this far!
Iīd very much like it if you would reflect on my thoughts and share with me your own!
Take Care now, time for me to go to bed...
//Jenna
I am not familiar with Andrei Chikalto, or who or what he did. I started to read about him, and got too grossed out to finish the story. In a nut shell, what eventually happened to him? I haven't heard of Henry Lee Lucas, or Ed Kemper either. I don't mean to appear as a nincompoop, but I live alone, and try not to read about too many evil people all at once!!!!! Feel free to enlighten me on these and others. It will be interesting to read in a nut shell about these "people."
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You're a real night owl...

R.T. Chase was never certified insane by the court. Gein was certified unfit to stand trial. You forgot to list Chikatilo; you mention him in your answers. But there's so many names missing that it's impossible to answer in any meaningful way.
Yeah I know...I love being up all night

Did I miss Chikatilo? Not good, I had him on my paper when I thought of the most famous serial killers I could remember.
What do you mean by thereīs so many names missing that you canīt answer in a meaningful way? Do you mean that Iīve missed many famous killers that should be on the list? Or did you mean something else? I only listed the ones familiar to me. Iīm sure, if you are from the states especially, that youīve heard of many more. Are there some you think should have been on the list that I missed?

I know Chase was not judged to be criminally insane and he was put in an ordinary prison. But just after a short time he left the prison and ended up in a mental institution for the insane. And he obviously was a very delusional disturbed man!
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I am not familiar with Andrei Chikalto, or who or what he did. I started to read about him, and got too grossed out to finish the story. In a nut shell, what eventually happened to him? I haven't heard of Henry Lee Lucas, or Ed Kemper either. I don't mean to appear as a nincompoop, but I live alone, and try not to read about too many evil people all at once!!!!! Feel free to enlighten me on these and others. It will be interesting to read in a nut shell about these "people."
What happened to Chikatilo was that he was sentenced to death and right after he was given the death sentence they took him right from the court room to a cell and shot him in the head. They seemed to execute these people in Russia a whole lot faster than they do in America!!! I understand why you didnīt finish reading the story about him, he grosses me out too big time!
By the way, The movie Citizen X is based on Chikatilo.

Henry Lee Lucas was a man that in the 70īs and 80īs claimed to have murdered over 300 ppl. He was sentenced to die in Huntsville TX. But then, years after some ppl started to look closer on his case and realised that he couldnīt have done many of these murders. For example, one time a girl was killed and Lucas confessed to it, but at the time he was in jail. A little hard to commit a crime from there right? There was absolutely no forensic material to tie him to any of the murders. Nothing! No eyewittnesses or nothing. Years later he confessed that everything he had said was a lie. So noone really knows if he ever even killed a single person!? Bush changed his death sentence to life instead. He died in 2001 I think.

Edmund Kemper is one quite interesting guy. Check him up on you tube. Thereīs a really interesting interview with him that I can recommend

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Hello everyone!
I made a little questionnaire about serial killers that I would find interesting to see what you had to say about. Itīs not a test in your knowledge about them, just questions about your thoughts about them. I hope you would like to participate !

I know there are lots and lots of serial killers out there so I would like the questions only to be about the most famous cases so we know who the person to your answer is. Iīve listed these people to be part in my questionnaire:
Jack The Ripper, H.H Holmes, Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, BTK-killer, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, Edmund Kemper, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz (son of sam), Albert Desalvo (Boston strangler), Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono (The hillside stranglers), Charles Manson, The Zodiac, Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, Fred West, Henry Lee Lucas, Moses Sithole, Richard Chase, Richard Speck, Dennis Nielsen, Aileen Wuornus and Harold Chipman. -There's serious contention about DeSalvo's guilt.
(Did I forget someone high profile? Just tell me and weīll add that person)

Ok, here we go - my 11 questions:
(please answer them with why you think this way, not just a name)

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak) Bianchi and Buono would work together.

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of? Jack the Ripper.

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with? Jeffery Dahmer

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster? None.

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look? We can't spot a killer by he or she's appearence.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)
David Berkowitz, now a model prisoner and doubts about his acting alone.
7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt. All.
8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable? JtR is my favorite. Albert Fish is least. Special sick, he was.
9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent? Kemper for most, Aileen Wuernos least.

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you? Easily.

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person? They succeeded in fooling many people because they're good at deception and are masters of manipulation.

*The End*
I hope you would like to take your time and answer, it would be an interesting read to see how you think and believe! And hopefully just as interesting to you aswell!

Take Care,
Jenna





[quote=Jenna;9142192]Hello everyone!
I made a little questionnaire about serial killers that I would find interesting to see what you had to say about. Itīs not a test in your knowledge about them, just questions about your thoughts about them. I hope you would like to participate !

I know there are lots and lots of serial killers out there so I would like the questions only to be about the most famous cases so we know who the person to your answer is. Iīve listed these people to be part in my questionnaire:
Jack The Ripper, H.H Holmes, Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, BTK-killer, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, Edmund Kemper, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz (son of sam), Albert Desalvo (Boston strangler), Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono (The hillside stranglers), Charles Manson, The Zodiac, Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, Fred West, Henry Lee Lucas, Moses Sithole, Richard Chase, Richard Speck, Dennis Nielsen, Aileen Wuornus and Harold Chipman. -There's serious contention about DeSalvo's guilt.
(Did I forget someone high profile? Just tell me and weīll add that person)

Ok, here we go - my 11 questions:
(please answer them with why you think this way, not just a name)

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak) Bianchi and Buono would work together.

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of? Jack the Ripper.

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with? Jeffery Dahmer

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster? None.

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look? We can't spot a killer by he or she's appearence.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)
David Berkowitz, now a model prisoner and doubts about his acting alone.
7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt. All.
8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable? JtR is my favorite. Albert Fish is least. Special sick, he was.
9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent? Kemper for most, Aileen Wuernos least.

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you? Easily.

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person? They succeeded in fooling many people because they're good at deception and are masters of manipulation.
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Hello everyone!
I made a little questionnaire about serial killers that I would find interesting to see what you had to say about. It´s not a test in your knowledge about them, just questions about your thoughts about them. I hope you would like to participate !

I know there are lots and lots of serial killers out there so I would like the questions only to be about the most famous cases so we know who the person to your answer is. I´ve listed these people to be part in my questionnaire:
Jack The Ripper, H.H Holmes, Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, BTK-killer, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, Edmund Kemper, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz (son of sam), Albert Desalvo (Boston strangler), Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono (The hillside stranglers), Charles Manson, The Zodiac, Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, Fred West, Henry Lee Lucas, Moses Sithole, Richard Chase, Richard Speck, Dennis Nielsen, Aileen Wuornus and Harold Chipman. -There's serious contention about DeSalvo's guilt.
(Did I forget someone high profile? Just tell me and we´ll add that person)

Ok, here we go - my 11 questions:
(please answer them with why you think this way, not just a name)

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak) Bianchi and Buono would work together.

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of? Jack the Ripper.

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with? Jeffery Dahmer

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster? None.

5....And who doesn´t? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look? We can't spot a killer by he or she's appearence.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)
David Berkowitz, now a model prisoner and doubts about his acting alone.
7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt. All.
8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable? JtR is my favorite. Albert Fish is least. Special sick, he was.
9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent? Kemper for most, Aileen Wuernos least.

10. If you didn´t know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you? Easily.

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but I´m not sure that´s correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person? They succeeded in fooling many people because they're good at deception and are masters of manipulation.
Hey, long time, no hear, Drummie!!! I for one, like your answers. They are thought out, and I have to agree with you on most of them. Well done!!!
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What happened to Chikatilo was that he was sentenced to death and right after he was given the death sentence they took him right from the court room to a cell and shot him in the head. They seemed to execute these people in Russia a whole lot faster than they do in America!!! I understand why you didnīt finish reading the story about him, he grosses me out too big time!
By the way, The movie Citizen X is based on Chikatilo.

Henry Lee Lucas was a man that in the 70īs and 80īs claimed to have murdered over 300 ppl. He was sentenced to die in Huntsville TX. But then, years after some ppl started to look closer on his case and realised that he couldnīt have done many of these murders. For example, one time a girl was killed and Lucas confessed to it, but at the time he was in jail. A little hard to commit a crime from there right? There was absolutely no forensic material to tie him to any of the murders. Nothing! No eyewittnesses or nothing. Years later he confessed that everything he had said was a lie. So noone really knows if he ever even killed a single person!? Bush changed his death sentence to life instead. He died in 2001 I think.

Edmund Kemper is one quite interesting guy. Check him up on you tube. Thereīs a really interesting interview with him that I can recommend

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Russia has it RIGHT on carrying out the death sentence. America basically sends murderers on a lifetime vacation, with NO worries of making a living, etc. And most, if not alll of their needs are given to them. This system IMO, is teaching the criminals the WRONG thing!!! If we had a system in place, like Russia's, where you get shot on the spot for getting the death penalty,etc, I can pretty much bet that crime here would be cut in half. Chikalto got what he deserved. Too bad we can't send Richard Ramirez to a Russian prison!!!
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Russia has it RIGHT on carrying out the death sentence. America basically sends murderers on a lifetime vacation, with NO worries of making a living, etc. And most, if not alll of their needs are given to them. This system IMO, is teaching the criminals the WRONG thing!!! If we had a system in place, like Russia's, where you get shot on the spot for getting the death penalty,etc, I can pretty much bet that crime here would be cut in half. Chikalto got what he deserved. Too bad we can't send Richard Ramirez to a Russian prison!!!

Well, this was Russia in the 90īs...From what Iīve heard they have abolished the death penalty now. But a lifetime in a Russian prison somewhere in Siberia
seems like an even worse punishment. I can hardly think of anything worse than that. I would much rather die then spend like 40-50 years there.
If Richard thinks heīs living in hell right now he surely hasnīt been to a prison outside of the United States. I think he should feel quite lucky! He has much more where he is now than he had when he was free and on the streets. He even has thousands of girls lusting after him...No, he should definitely not complain!!
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Hello everyone!
I made a little questionnaire about serial killers that I would find interesting to see what you had to say about. Itīs not a test in your knowledge about them, just questions about your thoughts about them. I hope you would like to participate !

I know there are lots and lots of serial killers out there so I would like the questions only to be about the most famous cases so we know who the person to your answer is. Iīve listed these people to be part in my questionnaire:
Jack The Ripper, H.H Holmes, Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, BTK-killer, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, Edmund Kemper, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz (son of sam), Albert Desalvo (Boston strangler), Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono (The hillside stranglers), Charles Manson, The Zodiac, Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, Fred West, Henry Lee Lucas, Moses Sithole, Richard Chase, Richard Speck, Dennis Nielsen, Aileen Wuornus and Harold Chipman. -There's serious contention about DeSalvo's guilt.
(Did I forget someone high profile? Just tell me and weīll add that person)

Ok, here we go - my 11 questions:
(please answer them with why you think this way, not just a name)

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak) Bianchi and Buono would work together.

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of? Jack the Ripper.

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with? Jeffery Dahmer

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster? None.

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look? We can't spot a killer by he or she's appearence.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)
David Berkowitz, now a model prisoner and doubts about his acting alone.
7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt. All.
8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable? JtR is my favorite. Albert Fish is least. Special sick, he was.
9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent? Kemper for most, Aileen Wuernos least.

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you? Easily.

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person? They succeeded in fooling many people because they're good at deception and are masters of manipulation.
Least afraid of Jack the ripper?Hm...Why? Because it seemed like he only killed prostitutes?
And most afraid of Dahmer? I think I would feel kind of safe with him. As long as you donīt drink or eat anything he gives you so that he can drug you, you should be pretty safe!
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Yeah I know...I love being up all night

Did I miss Chikatilo? Not good, I had him on my paper when I thought of the most famous serial killers I could remember.
What do you mean by thereīs so many names missing that you canīt answer in a meaningful way? Do you mean that Iīve missed many famous killers that should be on the list? Or did you mean something else? I only listed the ones familiar to me. Iīm sure, if you are from the states especially, that youīve heard of many more. Are there some you think should have been on the list that I missed?

I know Chase was not judged to be criminally insane and he was put in an ordinary prison. But just after a short time he left the prison and ended up in a mental institution for the insane. And he obviously was a very delusional disturbed man!

My thinking that you're a night owl comes simply from being in Sweden myself. I skipped the first part of your original post so while I thought of a reply to the questions at hand, I browsed upon a lot of names that wasn't on your list; that's why I thought it would be hard to make a serious attempt at answering and well, some of the questions are pretty silly; that might be an age thing on my part (I'm 43).
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Jack The Ripper,
H.H Holmes,
Richard Ramirez,
Ted Bundy,
Jeffrey Dahmer,
Dennis Rader,
Gary Ridgeway,
John Wayne Gacy,
Albert Fish,
Edmund Kemper,
Ed Gein,
David Berkowitz,
Albert Desalvo,
Kenneth Bianchi & Angelo Buono,
Charles Manson,
The Zodiac,
Leonard Lake & Charles Ng,
Fred West,
Henry Lee Lucas,
Moses Sithole,
Richard Chase,
Richard Speck,
Dennis Nielsen,
Aileen Wuornos,
Harold Shipman,
Andrei Chikatilo.


I would extract the unknown murderers + Aileen Wuornos (obvious reason), Moses Sithole (can't speak english), Harold Shipman (to old; non-violent means of murdering), Richard Chase (if he hadn't been schizophrenic he wouldn't have killed anyone), Albert DeSalvo (probably totally innocent of the Boston Strangler murder series) and Andrei Chikatilo (no english I assume).

That would leave you with the following cast of characters.

H.H Holmes,
Richard Ramirez,
Ted Bundy,
Jeffrey Dahmer,
Dennis Rader,
Gary Ridgeway,
John Wayne Gacy,
Albert Fish,
Edmund Kemper,
Ed Gein,
David Berkowitz,
Kenneth Bianchi & Angelo Buono,
Charles Manson,
Leonard Lake & Charles Ng,
Fred West,
Henry Lee Lucas,
Richard Speck,
Dennis Nielsen,

I don't think anything violent would take place. They'd say hello, exchange greetings and so forth. Dahmer would maybe have eyes for Charles Ng, as some of his victims was of asian descent. Or he would shack up with Dennis Nielsen as they had very much in common; not only being gay.

Albert Fish would volunteer to be tied up and tortured. Richard Speck and Ed Gein would chat about their transvestite longings.

Oo!!! It's 04.33am. Time to hit the bed.
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Jack The Ripper,
H.H Holmes,
Richard Ramirez,
Ted Bundy,
Jeffrey Dahmer,
Dennis Rader,
Gary Ridgeway,
John Wayne Gacy,
Albert Fish,
Edmund Kemper,
Ed Gein,
David Berkowitz,
Albert Desalvo,
Kenneth Bianchi & Angelo Buono,
Charles Manson,
The Zodiac,
Leonard Lake & Charles Ng,
Fred West,
Henry Lee Lucas,
Moses Sithole,
Richard Chase,
Richard Speck,
Dennis Nielsen,
Aileen Wuornos,
Harold Shipman,
Andrei Chikatilo.


I would extract the unknown murderers + Aileen Wuornos (obvious reason), Moses Sithole (can't speak english), Harold Shipman (to old; non-violent means of murdering), Richard Chase (if he hadn't been schizophrenic he wouldn't have killed anyone), Albert DeSalvo (probably totally innocent of the Boston Strangler murder series) and Andrei Chikatilo (no english I assume).

That would leave you with the following cast of characters.

H.H Holmes,
Richard Ramirez,
Ted Bundy,
Jeffrey Dahmer,
Dennis Rader,
Gary Ridgeway,
John Wayne Gacy,
Albert Fish,
Edmund Kemper,
Ed Gein,
David Berkowitz,
Kenneth Bianchi & Angelo Buono,
Charles Manson,
Leonard Lake & Charles Ng,
Fred West,
Henry Lee Lucas,
Richard Speck,
Dennis Nielsen,

I don't think anything violent would take place. They'd say hello, exchange greetings and so forth. Dahmer would maybe have eyes for Charles Ng, as some of his victims was of asian descent. Or he would shack up with Dennis Nielsen as they had very much in common; not only being gay.

Albert Fish would volunteer to be tied up and tortured. Richard Speck and Ed Gein would chat about their transvestite longings.

Oo!!! It's 04.33am. Time to hit the bed.

ugh. Reading this list makes me wonder just how many unknowns of these same types are out there. The thought makes me shudder with mixed feelings of disgust, and fear. After reading your thoughts, I think after Ted Bundy was caught, didn't he assist the Police in catching another infamous killer?
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Super Volcano; Bundy contacted Bob Keppel about the Green River Killer, which led to him being interviewed in prison by Keppel and Reichert about the investigation. Bundy's agenda was not so much about helping to catch the unknown killer, but getting a chance to talk about murder, and to some extent groom Keppel to become the person to confess to.

Bob Keppel was one of the homicide detectives (a fairly new assignment on his part) that investigated the cases of missing women that Ted had spirited away in 1974.

Dave Reichert became lead detective in the murders of the women that was found in the river cluster; july 1982. Bob Keppel had moved on within the system and was brought in as a consultant to the Green River task force.
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My thinking that you're a night owl comes simply from being in Sweden myself. I skipped the first part of your original post so while I thought of a reply to the questions at hand, I browsed upon a lot of names that wasn't on your list; that's why I thought it would be hard to make a serious attempt at answering and well, some of the questions are pretty silly; that might be an age thing on my part (I'm 43).

Are swedes famous for being night owles? Never heard that!

But please, if you have so many names in your head that I have excluded from the list that seems to be such VIP serial killers that not having invited them to be part of this questionnaire makes it not even trustworthy at all! *LOL*
Then , PLEASE - tell us (me) who these royal people are! *Lol*

I chose, as I said, a group of people that are familiar to me, instead of gettings answers about men Iīve never heard of. Also, itīs supposed to be a group otherwise some of the questions wouldnīt work.

And as for your last statement about some questions being silly! Well...I didnīt do this questionnaire in an attempt to be serious/mature thatīs for sure! The thought never even crossed my mind that people would even see it that way.
Life to me is not about being serious all the time...I love being silly...I love being goofy, have fun, play...Why always be so "grown up" and let the fun dissapear more and more for every year that goes by.

Come on, It canīt be that bad...You can answer the questions and have fun with it Donīt think to much! Let the dry swedish mentality dissapear for a moment here!
Take care my fellow country man! And Show me your childish side, Iīm sure it would SUIT YOU!
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Jack The Ripper,
H.H Holmes,
Richard Ramirez,
Ted Bundy,
Jeffrey Dahmer,
Dennis Rader,
Gary Ridgeway,
John Wayne Gacy,
Albert Fish,
Edmund Kemper,
Ed Gein,
David Berkowitz,
Albert Desalvo,
Kenneth Bianchi & Angelo Buono,
Charles Manson,
The Zodiac,
Leonard Lake & Charles Ng,
Fred West,
Henry Lee Lucas,
Moses Sithole,
Richard Chase,
Richard Speck,
Dennis Nielsen,
Aileen Wuornos,
Harold Shipman,
Andrei Chikatilo.


I would extract the unknown murderers + Aileen Wuornos (obvious reason), Moses Sithole (can't speak english), Harold Shipman (to old; non-violent means of murdering), Richard Chase (if he hadn't been schizophrenic he wouldn't have killed anyone), Albert DeSalvo (probably totally innocent of the Boston Strangler murder series) and Andrei Chikatilo (no english I assume).

That would leave you with the following cast of characters.

H.H Holmes,
Richard Ramirez,
Ted Bundy,
Jeffrey Dahmer,
Dennis Rader,
Gary Ridgeway,
John Wayne Gacy,
Albert Fish,
Edmund Kemper,
Ed Gein,
David Berkowitz,
Kenneth Bianchi & Angelo Buono,
Charles Manson,
Leonard Lake & Charles Ng,
Fred West,
Henry Lee Lucas,
Richard Speck,
Dennis Nielsen,

I don't think anything violent would take place. They'd say hello, exchange greetings and so forth. Dahmer would maybe have eyes for Charles Ng, as some of his victims was of asian descent. Or he would shack up with Dennis Nielsen as they had very much in common; not only being gay.

Albert Fish would volunteer to be tied up and tortured. Richard Speck and Ed Gein would chat about their transvestite longings.

Oo!!! It's 04.33am. Time to hit the bed.
Why extract people who canīt speak english? How is your thought process on that?
Whatīs the obvious reason to exclude Aileen??
Iīm curious to know!
Thanks for all your different answers so far! I appreciate it!
Time for me to go to bed! Goodnight everybodey - where ever you are!
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Sorry for messing with your thread, Jenna!

My extractions are probably in themselves silly and was an attempt to even out the field between the contestants. I've just a very hard time picturing all those losers together in one room. I'm taking your questions too serious.
I must be somewhat dyslectic because I thought you'd said your questions was a bit "silly" but I can't find that word now.

But if you gave Aileen a gun I think she would blow away Ridgeway and Jack the Ripper quite fast as they both targeted women like herself.

Bundy would probably be a captive audience to H.H. Holmes, as he dreamed of having a facility like Holmes murder castle, where he could monitor each and every stage of what murder was to him; absolute control.
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Super Volcano; Bundy contacted Bob Keppel about the Green River Killer, which led to him being interviewed in prison by Keppel and Reichert about the investigation. Bundy's agenda was not so much about helping to catch the unknown killer, but getting a chance to talk about murder, and to some extent groom Keppel to become the person to confess to.

Bob Keppel was one of the homicide detectives (a fairly new assignment on his part) that investigated the cases of missing women that Ted had spirited away in 1974.

Dave Reichert became lead detective in the murders of the women that was found in the river cluster; july 1982. Bob Keppel had moved on within the system and was brought in as a consultant to the Green River task force.
Oh, very interesting. Thanks for the info!!! So T.B was selfish to the very end. hm. go figure.
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Sorry for messing with your thread, Jenna!

My extractions are probably in themselves silly and was an attempt to even out the field between the contestants. I've just a very hard time picturing all those losers together in one room. I'm taking your questions too serious.
I must be somewhat dyslectic because I thought you'd said your questions was a bit "silly" but I can't find that word now.

But if you gave Aileen a gun I think she would blow away Ridgeway and Jack the Ripper quite fast as they both targeted women like herself.

Bundy would probably be a captive audience to H.H. Holmes, as he dreamed of having a facility like Holmes murder castle, where he could monitor each and every stage of what murder was to him; absolute control.
Yes, I guess you took my questions too serious! Because this so called test is not serious al all !

Really tired tonigt, so Iīll leave you for tonight!
Have a nice evening, bye bye! ;;
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Henry Lee Lucas was a man that in the 70īs and 80īs claimed to have murdered over 300 ppl. He was sentenced to die in Huntsville TX. But then, years after some ppl started to look closer on his case and realised that he couldnīt have done many of these murders. For example, one time a girl was killed and Lucas confessed to it, but at the time he was in jail. A little hard to commit a crime from there right? There was absolutely no forensic material to tie him to any of the murders. Nothing! No eyewittnesses or nothing. Years later he confessed that everything he had said was a lie. So noone really knows if he ever even killed a single person!?
Actually, we know that Lucas killed at least three people: his mother (which he was convicted for as a teenager), his girlfriend and his landlady. Those three are fact, all others are speculation. I personally believe Lucas probably killed a few more, but nothing like he confessed to.
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1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Richard Ramirez, because he wouldn't need any provocation or "reason", he'd just start killing.

Who would "go down first"? Aileen Wuornos. No offense, but a female killer locked up with all those women haters? They'd gang up on her for sure.(so to speak)

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of? Zodiac. He has always fascinated me, even more than Jack, because Zodiac is from my time, plus i don't think he would try anything if I knew who he was. On the contrary, he would want to regal me with his crimes, I think.

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with? Richard Ramirez. Too unpredictable. Killed for no apparent reason, no discernible victim type. Truly evil. One of the few serial killers that truly scares the hell out of me.

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster? Once again, Ramirez. He looks like he really could have Satan for a Daddy.

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look? Jeffrey Dahmer. Very shy, reserved and nerdy looking.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals) DeSalvo, if he actually was the Strangler. Was always concerned about how his crimes would affect his family, and - according to his confession - even felt remorse about killing on the day Kennedy was shot.

7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt. Need I say it again? Ramirez.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? Zodiac. I'd love to solve that one. and no it wasn't Arthur Allen. Robert Graysmith should face charges on aiding and abetting the real Zodiac, IMO.

And the least likeable? Lucas. Doesn't belong on a list with these others in my opinion. Simply a big mouth braggart who caused a lot of killers to go uncaught because he confessed to thier crimes. Moron.

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? Possibly Kemperer. A very intelligent man. Bundy acted intelligent but it was all smoke and mirrors.

And the least intelligent? Either Lucas or Ramirez. Each of them one step above Cro-Magnon Man.

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you? Dahmer. I could see us palling around together (I was a nred too).

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention at least one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person? Manson and Ramirez. They definitely flew over the cukoo's nest.

And some of my other favorites you didn't list: Peter Sutcliffe (the Yorkshire Ripper), Randy Kraft, and William Bonin.

Good questionnaire, give us some more!
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Old 12-25-2008, 11:34 AM
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1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Richard Ramirez, because he wouldn't need any provocation or "reason", he'd just start killing.

Who would "go down first"? Aileen Wuornos. No offense, but a female killer locked up with all those women haters? They'd gang up on her for sure.(so to speak)

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of? Zodiac. He has always fascinated me, even more than Jack, because Zodiac is from my time, plus i don't think he would try anything if I knew who he was. On the contrary, he would want to regal me with his crimes, I think.

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with? Richard Ramirez. Too unpredictable. Killed for no apparent reason, no discernible victim type. Truly evil. One of the few serial killers that truly scares the hell out of me.

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster? Once again, Ramirez. He looks like he really could have Satan for a Daddy.

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look? Jeffrey Dahmer. Very shy, reserved and nerdy looking.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals) DeSalvo, if he actually was the Strangler. Was always concerned about how his crimes would affect his family, and - according to his confession - even felt remorse about killing on the day Kennedy was shot.

7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt. Need I say it again? Ramirez.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? Zodiac. I'd love to solve that one. and no it wasn't Arthur Allen. Robert Graysmith should face charges on aiding and abetting the real Zodiac, IMO.

And the least likeable? Lucas. Doesn't belong on a list with these others in my opinion. Simply a big mouth braggart who caused a lot of killers to go uncaught because he confessed to thier crimes. Moron.

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? Possibly Kemperer. A very intelligent man. Bundy acted intelligent but it was all smoke and mirrors.

And the least intelligent? Either Lucas or Ramirez. Each of them one step above Cro-Magnon Man.

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you? Dahmer. I could see us palling around together (I was a nred too).

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention at least one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person? Manson and Ramirez. They definitely flew over the cukoo's nest.

And some of my other favorites you didn't list: Peter Sutcliffe (the Yorkshire Ripper), Randy Kraft, and William Bonin.

Good questionnaire, give us some more!
Thanks for answering my questions. It was also interesting to see how you reason because my answers would be almost the exact same on almost every question. Í wouldnīt want to be alone with Ramirez for one second, as you said - heīs too unpredictible. And he looks evil, doesnīt seem very intelligent etc. You described Dahmer the way i see him too and so on .
By the way...a funny little thing I would like to tell you all. Me and a friend of mine are some time this year going on a vacation to california and see Ramirez. I know it sounds weird but my friend have been writing to him for years and she wants to meet him and she asked me if i wanted to come along...and why not? That would surely be interesting! If it happens I will tell you about it!
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Wow Jenna,

That would be so cool. I'd love the chance to interview a serial killer. Yes by all means please tell us how it goes.
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Gee Jenna your questionnaire was so interesting I joined just so I could throw my two cents worth in.

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak) I think Edmund Kemper would be the last man standing since he's smart and big. Wuornus would probably go down first being the sole female.

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of? I suppose Aileen Wuornus but I wouldn't have a good time I can tell that right now!

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with? Very difficult choice maybe H. H. Holmes.

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster? Charles Manson; he looked like a con.

5....And who doesn´t? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look? John Wayne Gacy, I know clowns are scary but they don't look like murderers ... I guess.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals) Probably David Berkowitz, if any of them were really unable to grasp the evil of their deeds I'd say it was him.

7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt. Another rough question; I guess Leonard Lake.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable? Aileen Wuornus was pathetic. Charles Manson is even more revolting than the others imo.

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent? I've heard Edmund Kemper was very intelligent. Again going with Aileen Wuornus, she seemed definitely sub normal.

10. If you didn´t know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you? Ted Bundy, bright, personable ... hey if he could fool Ann Rule I imagine I'd think he was a grand guy (sob).

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but I´m not sure that´s correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person? David Berkowitz seems like the sort of lunatic people cross to the other side of the street to avoid.
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That would be so cool. I'd love the chance to interview a serial killer. Yes by all means please tell us how it goes.
Yes, if it really does happen Iīll tell you! ! But itīs not gonna happen for a couple of months though!
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Gee Jenna your questionnaire was so interesting I joined just so I could throw my two cents worth in.

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak) I think Edmund Kemper would be the last man standing since he's smart and big. Wuornus would probably go down first being the sole female.

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of? I suppose Aileen Wuornus but I wouldn't have a good time I can tell that right now!

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with? Very difficult choice maybe H. H. Holmes.

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster? Charles Manson; he looked like a con.

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look? John Wayne Gacy, I know clowns are scary but they don't look like murderers ... I guess.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals) Probably David Berkowitz, if any of them were really unable to grasp the evil of their deeds I'd say it was him.

7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt. Another rough question; I guess Leonard Lake.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable? Aileen Wuornus was pathetic. Charles Manson is even more revolting than the others imo.

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent? I've heard Edmund Kemper was very intelligent. Again going with Aileen Wuornus, she seemed definitely sub normal.

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you? Ted Bundy, bright, personable ... hey if he could fool Ann Rule I imagine I'd think he was a grand guy (sob).

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person? David Berkowitz seems like the sort of lunatic people cross to the other side of the street to avoid.

Hi! Thanks for the compliment Great of you to join just because you wanted to be a part of my questionnairre! It put a smile on my face
And welcome to this place, I hope youīll hang aound for a while! I havenīt been a member myself for very long but I like reading what other people think about certain serial killers/crimes, how they reason. Thatīs why I made this thing basically. So, thanks for your answering it. It was interesting to read!
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I'd like to add just one killer, Mr. Carl Panzram.

1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak)
1. The last man standing would be Carl Panzram. He was one angry man.

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of?
2. That would be Albert Fish because he's old and only interested in killing children. But if he came too close I could flog him a little.

3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with?
3. Dahmer or Neilsen, because they're gays and they killed boys and men.

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster?
4. Nobody.

5....And who doesn't? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look?
5. Most of them.

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compared to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)
6. Wuornos.

7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt.
7. Dennis Rader.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable?
8. Richard Trenton Chase, because he was insane. But the least likeable I've no idea.

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent?
9. Going by IQ it'd have to be Edmund Emil Kemper for the brightest and Gary Ridgeway for the least smartest.

10. If you didn't know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you?
10. Ed Gein or Gary Ridgeway

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane (to my knowledge only Gein and Chase but I'm not sure that's correct at all). Mention at least one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person?
11. That'd be Mr. Chase and Mr. Gein, but while Gein was just plain insane Mr. Chase was a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions.
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1. If they all were locked up into one single cell with each other, Who would you think would be the last man standing? Who would "go down first"? (so to speak)

I think the pedophiles and the rapists. just because of the prison law. These guys get attacked first

2. If you had to spend a whole week with one of them, which one of them would you pick? The one you are least afraid of?

I think Dennis Nilsen. He would kill worthless people, in order to protect them. A guy with a solid job and good friends might escape his urges... maybe.


3....And the opposite, Who would you feel most afraid of? Not wanting to spend a single minute alone with?
Carl Panzram. He hated the entire human race, and no one would be safe

4. Who, judging by appearance, looks most like he/she could be a killer/monster?
BTK. Maybe its the moustache. I dunno. but I wouldnt trust him

5....And who doesnīt? Someone that would have fooled you totally just by the way they look?
thats gotta be 90% of them. thats how they got away with it for so long

6. Which one of them do you think is the most "human", meaning having more feelings, morals, scruples, remorse, guilt etc ect than the others? (Not compares to us "normal" people but compared to this group of individuals)
Dahmer and Nilsen. They were remorseful, and admitted the horror of their crimes

7....And who seems to have no heart at all? Just a 100% evil? No remorse what so ever and no guilt.
Panzram, BTK, Gacy. Although I believe they were mentally ill.

8. Do you have a "favourite" among them? And the least likeable?
Not favourite, but most sympathetic. Namely Dahmer and Nilsen.

9. Which one of them seem to be the most intelligent among them? And the least intelligent?
I'd have to say the most intelligent are the ones that never got caught. Zodiac, Jack the Ripper, but we wont know because they were never caught.

10. If you didnīt know anything about who they really are, who would be the most likely to have become a real good friend or a boyfriend to you?
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.

11. I know only a few of these people were judged to be criminally insane. (To my knowledge only Gein and Chase but Iīm not sure thatīs correct at all). Mention atleast one of them you find it incredible that they passed as a sane person?
Loads. Dahmer, Manson, Kemper (look at what he did to his mother for ****s sake?!) mainly all of them. The problem is with the system
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