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10-04-2008, 01:52 AM
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Watch the verdict live: http://www.lasvegasnow.com/ starting "shortly."
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10-04-2008, 01:59 AM
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OJ guilty on all counts!! He was taken into custody immediately with no bail. Sentencing is on December 5, 2008.
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O.J. Simpson and co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart were tried on the following charges and faced these possible penalties in a Sept. 13, 2007, confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas hotel:
-- Two counts of first-degree kidnapping, felony: life in state prison or a definite term of 15 years, depending on the sentencing judge's discretion. Parole eligibility begins after five years. Use of a deadly weapon during a kidnapping can add an additional 1-20 years, depending on the circumstances.
-- Two counts of robbery with use of a deadly weapon, felony: mandatory 2-15 years in prison, plus a possible additional 1-15 years for use of a weapon.
-- Burglary while in possession of a deadly weapon: felony, probation or up to 2-15 years.
-- Two counts of coercion with use of a deadly weapon, felony: probation or up to 2-12 years in prison.
-- Two counts of assault with a deadly weapon, felony: probation or up to 1-6 years.
-- Conspiracy to commit kidnapping, felony: probation or up to 1-6 years.
-- Conspiracy to commit robbery, felony: probation or up to 1-6 years.
-- Conspiracy to commit a crime, gross misdemeanor: probation or up to 1 year in county jail.
Sources: Nevada Revised Statutes, Clark County district attorney's office
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10-04-2008, 02:55 AM
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Justice at last! Bet the Goldman Family is smiling tonight!
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10-04-2008, 03:43 AM
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Saturday, 04 Oct 2008
Jury Finds O.J. Simpson Guilty On All Charges
Former Football Star Faces Up to Life in Prison
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O.J. Simpson is taken into custody after being found guilty on all 12 charges, including felony kidnapping, armed robbery and conspiracy at the Clark County Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas on Friday, Oct. 3, 2008. The verdict comes thirteen years to the day after he was acquitted of double murder charges. (AP Photo/Daniel Gluskoter, Pool)
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10-04-2008, 03:52 AM
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October 4, 2008
O.J. Simpson, meet the slammer
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It was 13 years ago to the day -- since Vegas never sleeps, not even in the courts, O.J.'s latest verdict was read just before 11 p.m. their time Friday -- that Simpson was found not guilty in L.A. County Superior Court in the brutal murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.
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AP - By LINDA DEUTSCH – 17 minutes ago
Simpson guilty on all charges in robbery trial
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O.J. Simpson reacts as he is found guilty on all 12 charges, including felony kidnapping, armed robbery and conspiracy at the Clark County Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas on Friday, Oct. 3, 2008. The verdict comes thirteen years to the day after he was acquitted of double murder charges. (AP Photo - Daniel Gluskoter, Pool)
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Sat, Oct. 04, 2008
O.J. Simpson convicted of armed robbery-kidnapping
LAS VEGAS -- O.J. Simpson is going to prison.
After a 13-hour deliberation, jurors found Kendall resident Simpson and a co-defendant guilty on all charges, including armed robbery, kidnapping and conspiracy. A Las Vegas judge will mete out their prison sentences in December -- both will serve mandatory time and face life with parole.
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O.J. Simpson speaks with his sister, Carmelita Durio, center, as daughter Arnelle, right, stands in the background following the conclusion of closing arguments Thursday in his trial in Las Vegas. JAE C. HONG POOL
Simpson, 61, showed little emotion as he was led out of the courtroom in handcuffs, his bail immediately remanded. Simpson's sister Carmelita Durio collapsed on the on the courtroom's floor and was attended to by medics.
''I love you, man,'' a visibly distraught Thomas Scotto said as marshals led Simpson out of the courtroom. Scotto, a North Miami Beach auto-shop owner, was Simpson's key defense witness.
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October 04, 2008
The law catches up with O.J. Simpson
THIRTEEN years after being cleared of the horrific murder of his ex-wife and her friend in a verdict that shocked the world, the long arm of the law has finally caught up with OJ Simpson.
The 61-year-old American football legend was convicted of robbery and kidnapping today, charges that stemmed from his ill-judged bid to retrieve personal items from two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas hotel room.
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Now Simpson -- who in the court of public opinion got away with murder at his circus-like trial in Los Angeles in 1995 -- faces years behind bars after being convicted by an all-white jury in the gambling haven known as Sin City.
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yes, guilty ! oj is going down.
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10-04-2008, 08:09 AM
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The verdict is in and I think the jury rendered the correct verdict in line with the state of the law in Nevada.
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10-04-2008, 08:23 AM
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yes, guilty ! oj is going down.
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I understand how you feel
but I think there will be an appeal
how far the appeal will go
I do not know
I guess we wait to see
If the Supreme court will grant certiorari.
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SNIPPED***Jury Finds O.J. Simpson Guilty On All Charges
O.J. Simpson is taken into custody after being found guilty on all 12 charges, including felony kidnapping, armed robbery and conspiracy at the Clark County Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas on Friday, Oct. 3, 2008. The verdict comes thirteen years to the day after he was acquitted of double murder charges. (AP Photo/Daniel Gluskoter, Pool)
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SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RIP RON 
RIP NICOLE
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How and why does this verdict do anything to vindicate the murders of Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson? I think that to suggest it does supports an argument that Simpson did not receive a fair trial based on the charges he faced. I anticipate that there will be a denial that those, who imply such sentiments, were not on the jury. However, such feelings reflect a sentiment that may have been shared by the vast majority to include those jury members.
It is exactly those type of words that may tend to make the verdict suspect but I believe that the jury reached the right verdict on the charges in the instant case based on the law and we should be careful not to dimish the character of their verdict.
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''He's extremely upset, extremely emotional,'' said Simpson's Miami attorney, Yale Galanter, adding that the last thing he said to his client was ``good luck.''
ROFLMAO that ole yale -- such a silver tongued devil. LOL
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''Whenever you defend someone and they're found guilty it's not happy news,'' Galanter said. ``This is not a happy day for anybody.''
uh - WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-04-2008, 09:58 AM
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''He's extremely upset, extremely emotional,'' said Simpson's Miami attorney, Yale Galanter, adding that the last thing he said to his client was ``good luck.''
ROFLMAO that ole yale -- such a silver tongued devil. LOL
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That kind of sounds like 'see ya' to me. I wonder how Yale got paid? If OJ had to write a book just to feed his kids I don't know how he squeezed out money for Yale.
How about his sister collapsing? At least she can visit him in jail instead of in a cemetery.
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That kind of sounds like 'see ya' to me. I wonder how Yale got paid? If OJ had to write a book just to feed his kids I don't know how he squeezed out money for Yale.
How about his sister collapsing? At least she can visit him in jail instead of in a cemetery.
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yale rode that horse a long time -- and it looks like he can still squeeze more with the appeals, etc. I've wondered about the payment but figured it was 'under the table' like the rest of orenthal's business dealings. heck, maybe yale and arnelle will end up splitting the house and stuff in florida! 
I'm betting his sister didn't feel any worse than the Goldmans and Browns did the day orenthal walked the murder charges.
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10-04-2008, 10:26 AM
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yale rode that horse a long time -- and it looks like he can still squeeze more with the appeals, etc. I've wondered about the payment but figured it was 'under the table' like the rest of orenthal's business dealings. heck, maybe yale and arnelle will end up splitting the house and stuff in florida! 
I'm betting his sister didn't feel any worse than the Goldmans and Browns did the day orenthal walked the murder charges.
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She might be riding the gravy train too. I don't remember them collapsing like she did but it was kind of hard to tell with all the hugging and backslapping at the defense table that day.
BTW, is OJ Simpson crying in the picture where he's being handcuffed?
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SNIPPED** ". . .BTW, is OJ Simpson crying in the picture where he's being handcuffed? . . ."
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LOL -- I was wondering the same thing. I sure hope so.
arnelle appears to be uneffected -- guess it was just another day in the life of orenthal and arnelle.
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LOL -- I was wondering the same thing. I sure hope so.
arnelle appears to be uneffected -- guess it was just another day in the life of orenthal and arnelle.
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Have you noticed how much he and his sister look alike? Put a wig on OJ and you couldn't tell them apart. Just an observation.
Yale said OJ was expecting the verdict but you know he had hope that the old charm would serve him well once again. I bet it's times like this he wishes he had never slipped on those Bruno Maglis that night.
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10-04-2008, 10:55 AM
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Have you noticed how much he and his sister look alike? Put a wig on OJ and you couldn't tell them apart. Just an observation.
Yale said OJ was expecting the verdict but you know he had hope that the old charm would serve him well once again. I bet it's times like this he wishes he had never slipped on those Bruno Maglis that night. 
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where he's going we might get a chance to see him in a wig!
Love the Bruno Maglis sentence! It made me laugh out loud.
I have been wondering about something though. orenthal has been such an obsessive/possessive person -- whether it was people or things. I wonder how he feels knowing that his 'stuff' is out there unprotected.
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where he's going we might get a chance to see him in a wig!
Love the Bruno Maglis sentence! It made me laugh out loud.
I have been wondering about something though. orenthal has been such an obsessive/possessive person -- whether it was people or things. I wonder how he feels knowing that his 'stuff' is out there unprotected.
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LOL, you know he hated those ugly-a** shoes! I'd say he's devastated that he's lost control of his life and his stuff but I'm sure Arnelle has her instructions.
I wonder if Fred Goldman has gotten the contents of the storage units yet?
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LOL, you know he hated those ugly-a** shoes! I'd say he's devastated that he's lost control of his life and his stuff but I'm sure Arnelle has her instructions.
I wonder if Fred Goldman has gotten the contents of the storage units yet?
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judging from the altercation (didn't someone say she 'bonked' his head?) that took place between arnelle and orenthal, he may not be all that comfortable knowing she's got access to his 'stuff'. especially when you consider she's forty and still living off daddy. hey, she may write that book now without orenthal -- now, if karma will only catch up to her, I'll be happy.
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I agree William
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How and why does this verdict do anything to vindicate the murders of Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson? I think that to suggest it does supports an argument that Simpson did not receive a fair trial based on the charges he faced. I anticipate that there will be a denial that those, who imply such sentiments, were not on the jury. However, such feelings reflect a sentiment that may have been shared by the vast majority to include those jury members.
It is exactly those type of words that may tend to make the verdict suspect but I believe that the jury reached the right verdict on the charges in the instant case based on the law and we should be careful not to dimish the character of their verdict.
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I just wonder in retrospect whether OJ feels getting his memorabilia back was worth facing a lifetime in jail.
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I just wonder in retrospect whether OJ feels getting his memorabilia back was worth facing a lifetime in jail. 
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I believe orenthal thought that if HE wasn't carrying the gun and if HE didn't carry the boxes out, then HE couldn't be charged with the crime. thank goodness he was dealing with the type of people he surrounded himself with or we wouldn't have had the tapes to prove his involvement.
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I just wonder in retrospect whether OJ feels getting his memorabilia back was worth facing a lifetime in jail. 
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Thank you. I had to give some thought to that question. I think there would be nothing I would stop at, if someone had taken the portrait of my father. I do not know that I would feel the same, if the took memorabilia (from my understanding of the word). I think that there are values placed on objects differently. However, the value placed on people or things we love comes from God's mercy and grace, imho. With that same thought in mind, God teaches us that it is wrong to place any graven image before him and to forgive is divine. Your question has caused me to rethink my position on my father's portrait. They may steal his image but they can never take the love he showed me during that portion of his lifetime i was blessed to share with him and my beloved mother. I am sorry I don't have a portrait of her but can have one made. Thank you again not only for the post but also for the insight. My recognition came during my response.
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Thank you. I had to give some thought to that question. I think there would be nothing I would stop at, if someone had taken the portrait of my father. I do not know that I would feel the same, if the took memorabilia (from my understanding of the word). I think that there are values placed on objects differently. However, the value placed on people or things we love comes from God's mercy and grace, imho. With that same thought in mind, God teaches us that it is wrong to place any graven image before him and to forgive is divine. Your question has caused me to rethink my position on my father's portrait. They may steal his image but they can never take the love he showed me during that portion of his lifetime i was blessed to share with him and my beloved mother. I am sorry I don't have a portrait of her but can have one made. Thank you again not only for the post but also for the insight. My recognition came during my response.
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With or without a portrait, your parents images will forever be etched in your heart. God Bless
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With or without a portrait, your parents images will forever be etched in your heart. God Bless 
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Misty watered colored memories, like the corners of our mind. May God shower you and yours with his love.
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I just wonder in retrospect whether OJ feels getting his memorabilia back was worth facing a lifetime in jail. 
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WarmNCozy - that has been exactly what I've been thinking throught this whole trial. Since the way he went about this, doesn't follow my thought process, I have wondered how he could think it would be ok. We all think differently, I understand that, but this is so far away from the way I think it is very difficult for me to understand.
I do truly hope that this trial stood on its own. I know there are alot of people that may/may not believe that it did. Others that were involved were not charged/were given other deals...I think that is how many trials go - they do whatever they can do go after the principal.
My hope is that this what he deserves for this situation - and the sentence will be fair in that way too.
Anything else he deserves will be decided by God, not us.
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I believe orenthal thought that if HE wasn't carrying the gun and if HE didn't carry the boxes out, then HE couldn't be charged with the crime. thank goodness he was dealing with the type of people he surrounded himself with or we wouldn't have had the tapes to prove his involvement.
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I don't think for one moment that this was all about family pictures. If there are people that want to think he was doing an unselfish thing and just happened to violate Nevada law in the process then so be it.
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I don't think for one moment that this was all about family pictures. If there are people that want to think he was doing an unselfish thing and just happened to violate Nevada law in the process then so be it.
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I think it's obvious when you read the transcripts that it was about HIS 'sh*t' -- it's always about what's HIS. I'm of the very strong opinion that if he believed he had stolen stuff out there, he could have reported to the police and/or pursued through civil court. Of course, like the tapes report, he knew the stuff was out there because he had arranged for the stuff to be taken from Rockingham and hidden. Once again, he was after what HE believed belonged to HIM. Thank God this time it was only a robbery. imo
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What a joyous, beautiful day. Orenthal is once again behind bars where he belongs. I hope he's there for a long, long time 
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William I will echo WNC's comments. Your memories can never be taken away. I have those of my brother, father and mother and I can see them clearly in my mind even though it has been many, many years since I have had the honor of touching their faces on this earth..Sometimes that is the solace that we get in losing our loved ones.
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I could not be happier.
Justice is alive and well in Las Vegas, NV.
If OJ believed his "sh*T" was stolen, he should have alerted LE. But, no he could not ask for their help. He knew the items in question rightly belonged to the Goldman's from the verdict in the civil trial.
Looks like OJ outsmarted himself. Strike up the Band!
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