The children

[Jules100]

I feel so sorry for them, i wonder what they think - they must be aware that so many people think that their father did commit the murders ( btw, i do think he did it )

[weezer]

Originally Posted by Jules100

I feel so sorry for them, i wonder what they think - they must be aware that so many people think that their father did commit the murders ( btw, i do think he did it )

it's very sad when a young child loses a parent -- made even sadder when one of the parents is the accused. I've never read statements from the kids that gave an indication one way or the other as to their beliefs. I do think it's interesting and maybe even telling, that when the daughters had altercations with orenthal, they called 911. I also was more than a little sad that Justin and Sydney were willing to take money for orenthal's confession book.

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

it's very sad when a young child loses a parent -- made even sadder when one of the parents is the accused. I've never read statements from the kids that gave an indication one way or the other as to their beliefs. I do think it's interesting and maybe even telling, that when the daughters had altercations with orenthal, they called 911. I also was more than a little sad that Justin and Sydney were willing to take money for orenthal's confession book.

I've always felt that the children are probably very conflicted on their feelings for their father. I'm sure they don't want to believe he killed Nicole but I'm sure they're smart enough to put the facts together. They've also heard all the bad things that have been said about Nicole and that figures into what they think of the situation. I don't know if their father has ever said anything negative to them about Nicole but his confession book trashed her so they must know how his feelings. I was also disappointed they took part in the book. So sad for Nicole. IMO.

[Jules100]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

I've always felt that the children are probably very conflicted on their feelings for their father. I'm sure they don't want to believe he killed Nicole but I'm sure they're smart enough to put the facts together. They've also heard all the bad things that have been said about Nicole and that figures into what they think of the situation. I don't know if their father has ever said anything negative to them about Nicole but his confession book trashed her so they must know how his feelings. I was also disappointed they took part in the book. So sad for Nicole. IMO.

I didn't realise that they took money from the book, i thought that it had all gone to the Goldman family- how old are the kids now

[susie31023]

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Originally Posted by Jules100

I feel so sorry for them, i wonder what they think - they must be aware that so many people think that their father did commit the murders ( btw, i do think he did it )[/quote

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Jules I have also thought about the children and how conflicted they must be..This case is a very very sad one in that they put the victim on trial..I read here often but never post. My feelings are strong and I don't want to argue a moot point. My prayers go out to Sydney and Justin for losing their mother and having to hear/read the negative things against her.

I think OJ did it but it is again a moot point in that the jury has already made their decisions and no amount of argument can take that back. We all must answer to a higher power and those who have been wronged will have justice then. That's just my opinion~Susie

[William Anthony]

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Jules I have also thought about the children and how conflicted they must be..This case is a very very sad one in that they put the victim on trial..I read here often but never post. My feelings are strong and I don't want to argue a moot point. My prayers go out to Sydney and Justin for losing their mother and having to hear/read the negative things against her.

I think OJ did it but it is again a moot point in that the jury has already made their decisions and no amount of argument can take that back. We all must answer to a higher power and those who have been wronged will have justice then. That's just my opinion~Susie

A well articulated post. I think we all make a mistake when we try to impose our will over God's.

[susie31023]

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Originally Posted by William Anthony

Thank you William, it's just how I feel..

[William Anthony]

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Thank you William, it's just how I feel..

One of my favorite lines from "Tombstone" was spoken by Doc Holiday. It is not revenge he is after, it is the reckoning. I pray that God will use me as an instrument to do his will.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Jules100

I feel so sorry for them, i wonder what they think - they must be aware that so many people think that their father did commit the murders ( btw, i do think he did it )

I think the children are 18 and 19 and are both in college. one away from home and one close to Miami.

I have not read any report that either is anything but well adjusted people doing quite well. Denise Brown has confirmed this in her contact with them.

This in contrary to what some had expected or assumed the case would be
based on their opinions of Simpson.imo

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

I think the children are 18 and 19 and are both in college. one away from home and one close to Miami.

I have not read any report that either is anything but well adjusted people doing quite well. Denise Brown has confirmed this in her contact with them.

This in contrary to what some had expected or assumed the case would be
based on their opinions of Simpson.imo

Except for Sydney's fights at the school and with orenthal, I haven't heard anything else about them.

the kids are 20 and 23 --

[Jules100]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

Except for Sydney's fights at the school and with orenthal, I haven't heard anything else about them.

the kids are 20 and 23 --

I didn't realise that they were that old, obviously old enough to form their own opinions, i wonder if they have contact with their moms family, that must be quite difficult for them too, being around people who think their father killed their mother

[weezer]

Originally Posted by Jules100

I didn't realise that they were that old, obviously old enough to form their own opinions, i wonder if they have contact with their moms family, that must be quite difficult for them too, being around people who think their father killed their mother

I don't know anymore how I feel. I mean, I'm sorry that they grew up without their mom who obviously loved them very much but then when you read that they were willing to take money for their dad to write his confession of how he did it -- something's just not right there.

[susie31023]

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Originally Posted by William Anthony

I remember that well William. O/T and just a note, Doc was born not far from where I was born[ albeit many many years later,LOL].

[William Anthony]

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I remember that well William. O/T and just a note, Doc was born not far from where I was born[ albeit many many years later,LOL].

I feel that the children undoubtedly have mixed emotions and pray that they will find some comfort so that they will not traumatized by the remarks of those in the court of public opinion and add that Simpson's antics have not helped in the process. I agree that the true murder, while he/they may have escaped punishment on earth, will receive their just rewards at the time of the reckoning.

[susie31023]

Thank you William, that was what I was trying to say..We may be able to fool people here on Earth, but no one can fool God, Just my opinion..

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

Except for Sydney's fights at the school and with orenthal, I haven't heard anything else about them.

the kids are 20 and 23 --

I remember a high school mate made some bad remarks to sydney about nicole and sydney responded phyically i think. I remember Sydney called the police on oj because she wanted to go to a party at a friends house one night.Oj said no. Police came discussed the issue with oj and sydney and the issue was resolved. i know of no FIGHTS as you call it.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by susie31023

Thank you William, that was what I was trying to say..We may be able to fool people here on Earth, but no one can fool God, Just my opinion..

I also hope with all my being, for the sake of all the children, it is proven that the murderer is not Simpson.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I don't know anymore how I feel. I mean, I'm sorry that they grew up without their mom who obviously loved them very much but then when you read that they were willing to take money for their dad to write his confession of how he did it -- something's just not right there.

You may be having some kind of problem with the facts. Maby i can help you.
I am sure there has not been a book written by oj that he said was a confession or had the title of HOW I DID IT. I am sure the title of ojs book was IF I DID IT.imo
martin II

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

You may be having some kind of problem with the facts. Maby i can help you.
I am sure there has not been a book written by oj that he said was a confession or had the title of HOW I DID IT. I am sure the title of ojs book was IF I DID IT.imo
martin II

nope -- I'm not having problems with the facts -- you're having problems with reality. did orenthal write a book describing how he would have murdered Ron and Nicole? yes, he did. I did not say the title of the book was 'how' -- I said he wrote a book describing 'how' --

my sadness comes from Nicole's children willing to accept money for the description of her brutal death by their father. It just seems wrong to me.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

I remember a high school mate made some bad remarks to sydney about nicole and sydney responded phyically i think. I remember Sydney called the police on oj because she wanted to go to a party at a friends house one night.Oj said no. Police came discussed the issue with oj and sydney and the issue was resolved. i know of no FIGHTS as you call it.

I didn't say 'fights' -- I said altercations.

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I didn't say 'fights' -- I said altercations.

When a child calls 911 crying and calls her father an a**h*** and says he doesn't love any of his children that sure sounds like an altercation to me.

[weezer]

I re-read my post and I did say 'fights' -- sorry. okay so sydney has been involved in two 'fights' -- one physical and one not (that we know of).

[weezer]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

When a child calls 911 crying and calls her father an a**h*** and says he doesn't love any of his children that sure sounds like an altercation to me.

I find it even more interesting that both girls called 911 during a confrontation with orenthal. sounds like someone doesn't exactly trust him.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Jules100

I didn't realise that they were that old, obviously old enough to form their own opinions, i wonder if they have contact with their moms family, that must be quite difficult for them too, being around people who think their father killed their mother

The last i heard Sydney goes to california on summer vacation to see friends bur not the browns.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

When a child calls 911 crying and calls her father an a**h*** and says he doesn't love any of his children that sure sounds like an altercation to me.

le came to the house and talked to Sydney and oj and the situation was resolved so what we may think of the situation dosen't matter since we were not there and no charges were made. I think Sydney calmed down and went to bed.imo

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I find it even more interesting that both girls called 911 during a confrontation with orenthal. sounds like someone doesn't exactly trust him.

I am sure 'IT' sound like 'SOMETHING" to "SOME" hahaha

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

nope -- I'm not having problems with the facts -- you're having problems with reality. did orenthal write a book describing how he would have murdered Ron and Nicole? yes, he did. I did not say the title of the book was 'how' -- I said he wrote a book describing 'how' --

my sadness comes from Nicole's children willing to accept money for the description of her brutal death by their father. It just seems wrong to me.

The title of the book was 'IF I DID IT" any twisting of the title is nonsense or non truth.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

nope -- I'm not having problems with the facts -- you're having problems with reality. did orenthal write a book describing how he would have murdered Ron and Nicole? yes, he did. I did not say the title of the book was 'how' -- I said he wrote a book describing 'how' --

my sadness comes from Nicole's children willing to accept money for the description of her brutal death by their father. It just seems wrong to me.

I am sure it does sound that way for you but as far as i know you were/are not a oj simpson child. So that leaves you uninformed about any of their motives for anytrhing.imo

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

The title of the book was 'IF I DID IT" any twisting of the title is nonsense or non truth.

who said anything about the 'title' of the book but you? LOL

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

le came to the house and talked to Sydney and oj and the situation was resolved so what we may think of the situation dosen't matter since we were not there and no charges were made. I think Sydney calmed down and went to bed.imo

reminds you of Nicole's calls for help doesn't it?

[William Anthony]

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Jules I have also thought about the children and how conflicted they must be..This case is a very very sad one in that they put the victim on trial..I read here often but never post. My feelings are strong and I don't want to argue a moot point. My prayers go out to Sydney and Justin for losing their mother and having to hear/read the negative things against her.

I think OJ did it but it is again a moot point in that the jury has already made their decisions and no amount of argument can take that back. We all must answer to a higher power and those who have been wronged will have justice then. That's just my opinion~Susie

The more I reflect upon your post the more I understand that it is the belief in God and that his punishment will be administered that allows some not to engage in victim bashing, show consideration for the children by not speaking ill of either parent and not to hate and to accept the verdict without making negative comments about those that rendered it. You simply stated your thought that Simpson did it without bashing anyone. I do believe that we will all one day stand before God and I fear that day. I sincerely hope that He, with his unlimited grace and mercy, will forgive me for all my sins. With that said, He may forgive some or all murderers and that will be His will. If that should happen, who among us has the audacity to call His judgment wrong?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

reminds you of Nicole's calls for help doesn't it?

Nope

Your post here reminds me of how you try to twist facts of this situation to make it sound like something it was not.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

Nope

Your post here reminds me of how you try to twist facts of this situation to make it sound like something it was not.

really?

"Nicole's 911 call of 1993
The following are excerpts from the two 911 calls Nicole Brown Simpson made to police on Oct. 25, 1993, from her townhouse.

NICOLE: Can you send someone to my house?
DISPATCHER: What's the problem there?
NICOLE: My ex-husband has just broken into my house and he's ranting and raving outside the front yard.
DISPATCHER: Has he been drinking or anything?
NICOLE: No. But he's crazy.
DISPATCHER: And you said he hasn't been drinking?
NICOLE: No.
DISPATCHER: Did he hit you?
NICOLE: No.
DISPATCHER: Do you have a restraining order against him?
NICOLE: No.
DISPATCHER: What's your name?
NICOLE: Nicole Simpson.
DISPATCHER: And your address?
NICOLE: 325 Gretna Green Way.
DISPATCHER: Okay, we'll send the police out.
NICOLE: Nicole: Thank you.
DISPATCHER: Dispatcher: Uh-huh.
(The dispatcher puts out a domestic violence call for any patrol car to respond to the address at Gretna Green. A short time later, Nicole Simpson called back.
NICOLE: Could you get somebody over here now, to ... Gretna Green. He's back. Please?
DISPATCHER: What does he look like?
NICOLE: He's O.J. Simpson. I think you know his record. Could you just send somebody over here?
DISPATCHER: What is he doing there?
NICOLE: He just drove up again. (She begins to cry) Could you just send somebody over?
DISPATCHER: Dispatcher: Wait a minute. What kind of car is he in?
NICOLE: He's in a white Bronco, but first of all he broke the back door down to get in."

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

Nope

Your post here reminds me of how you try to twist facts of this situation to make it sound like something it was not.

"SYDNEY SIMPSON: My dad is an (DELETED)!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the policeman. How may I help you?

SYDNEY SIMPSON: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m sorry, I`m not understanding what you`re saying.

SYDNEY SIMPSON: He doesn`t (DELETED) love me or any of his kids!"

[William Anthony]

I would look at the difference in the wording in posts #11 and #21.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

"SYDNEY SIMPSON: My dad is an (DELETED)!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the policeman. How may I help you?

SYDNEY SIMPSON: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m sorry, I`m not understanding what you`re saying.

SYDNEY SIMPSON: He doesn`t (DELETED) love me or any of his kids!"

Normal for a teenager that can not get her way when a parent says no.
Parents of most teenagers know this.

One thing Simpson has done is raise his kids to be good people and i have seen nothing in their lives in the last 14 years to indicate that he as a single parent has not supported his children in their growth and education.They are young adults and can speak as they please.So far they seem to be doing quite well so i would not wish some trama on them or try to interject your preceived negative thoughts about their lives because of your feelings about Simpson.imo

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I didn't say 'fights' -- I said altercations.

fbgweezer
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Originally Posted by martin II
I think the children are 18 and 19 and are both in college. one away from home and one close to Miami.

I have not read any report that either is anything but well adjusted people doing quite well. Denise Brown has confirmed this in her contact with them.

This in contrary to what some had expected or assumed the case would be
based on their opinions of Simpson.imo

Except for Sydney's fights at the school and with orenthal, I haven't heard anything else about them.

the kids are 20 and 23 --

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

really?

"Nicole's 911 call of 1993
The following are excerpts from the two 911 calls Nicole Brown Simpson made to police on Oct. 25, 1993, from her townhouse.

NICOLE: Can you send someone to my house?
DISPATCHER: What's the problem there?
NICOLE: My ex-husband has just broken into my house and he's ranting and raving outside the front yard.
DISPATCHER: Has he been drinking or anything?
NICOLE: No. But he's crazy.
DISPATCHER: And you said he hasn't been drinking?
NICOLE: No.
DISPATCHER: Did he hit you?
NICOLE: No.
DISPATCHER: Do you have a restraining order against him?
NICOLE: No.
DISPATCHER: What's your name?
NICOLE: Nicole Simpson.
DISPATCHER: And your address?
NICOLE: 325 Gretna Green Way.
DISPATCHER: Okay, we'll send the police out.
NICOLE: Nicole: Thank you.
DISPATCHER: Dispatcher: Uh-huh.
(The dispatcher puts out a domestic violence call for any patrol car to respond to the address at Gretna Green. A short time later, Nicole Simpson called back.
NICOLE: Could you get somebody over here now, to ... Gretna Green. He's back. Please?
DISPATCHER: What does he look like?
NICOLE: He's O.J. Simpson. I think you know his record. Could you just send somebody over here?
DISPATCHER: What is he doing there?
NICOLE: He just drove up again. (She begins to cry) Could you just send somebody over?
DISPATCHER: Dispatcher: Wait a minute. What kind of car is he in?
NICOLE: He's in a white Bronco, but first of all he broke the back door down to get in."

le came to GG .oj did not tough Nicole. Nicole did not make a complaint. oj left and so did le. a lot of yelling took place.

[Redmama]

Originally Posted by martin II

Normal for a teenager that can not get her way when a parent says no.
Parents of most teenagers know this.

One thing Simpson has done is raise his kids to be good people and i have seen nothing in their lives in the last 14 years to indicate that he as a single parent has not supported his children in their growth and education.They are young adults and can speak as they please.So far they seem to be doing quite well so i would not wish some trama on them or try to interject your preceived negative thoughts about their lives because of your feelings about Simpson.imo

Not normal from my point of view. I do not know a single person who have had their kids call 911 on them.

[Jules100]

Originally Posted by Redmama

Not normal from my point of view. I do not know a single person who have had their kids call 911 on them.

Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue called the police on his mum when he was 14 just because he didn't get his own way - just thought i'd say