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Young Groom Charged With Murdering Bride
8/14/2008
Young Groom Charged With Murdering Bride
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. . . . . Ryan Widmer, charged with wife's murder.
A man called 911 saying his wife drowned in the tub after falling asleep.
Two days later police arrested him for her murder. Ryan Widmer will make his first appearance on those charges Thursday morning before a Warren County judge.
"I never saw him doing anything but smiling, so he was a super nice guy. I just can't imagine," said neighbor Mandy Antonczak.
In his call to 911, Ryan Widmer told the dispatcher that he was downstairs watching TV. .....
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...6-14aed0a55715
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August 14, 2008
Updated: Hamilton Twp. Man Charged In Wife's Death
24-Year-Old's Body Discovered In Bathtub
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http://www.wlwt.com/news/17182889/detail.html
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8/14/2008
Man Charged in Wife's Drowning
A judge set bond at a million dollars today for a man charged with murder in the bathtub drowning of his wife of a few months.
At the video arraignment today in Warren County Court, relatives of 27-year-old Ryan Widmer protested the high bond and cried.
The Hamilton Township man told a 911 dispatcher Monday night that he tried to perform c-p-r after finding 24-year-old Sarah Widmer unresponsive in a bath.
The coroner issued a preliminary ruling of drowning. But investigators found evidence of trauma that was inconsistent with an accident and not plainly visible on the body.
Police took evidence from the couple's four-bedroom home and say they found contradictions with Widmer's account.
"How long was she in the bathtub? She was in here for at least 15 minutes, a half hour, somewhere in there. I was out there watching TV. She falls asleep in the tub all the time."
Widmer's lawyer says Ryan and Sarah were not having trouble and he doesn't understand why investigators believe there was foul play. The prosecutors says the couple had no documented history of domestic violence and Widmer has no criminal record. He is a 2004 Miami University graduate and a sales manager of sporting events for the county's visitors bureau. His wife was a dental hygienist.
http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...3-a4b90046badf
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8/14/2008
$1M Bond For Husband Accused Of Killing Wife
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Excerpt: Both families sat together as Ryan was arraigned Thursday. Family members on both sides say they don't believe Ryan killed his wife.
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http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...7-bbf338ae7799
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By DAN SEWELL Associated Press Writer - Published on Friday Aug 15, 2008
Ohio man indicted in bathtub death of wife
An Ohio man whose wife of a few months drowned in their bathtub was indicted Friday on a charge of aggravated murder.
Police said Ryan Widmer, 27, called 911 late Monday to report he had found Sarah Widmer, 24, unresponsive in their home in Hamilton Township, a suburban area northeast of Cincinnati.
The coroner issued a preliminary ruling of drowning. However, investigators also found evidence of trauma that was inconsistent with an accident, said Warren County Prosecutor Rachel Hutzel.
"The significant amount of physical and circumstantial evidence that have been uncovered reveal that this was no accident," Hutzel said in a statement Friday. "Sarah died after a violent struggle."
Widmer, jailed Wednesday and held on bond of $1 million, faces arraignment Aug. 20 and could be sentenced to life in prison if convicted.
Widmer told a 911 dispatcher that he was watching television and that his wife often fell asleep in the tub. He said he tried to revive her.
His lawyer, Charlie Rittgers, said Friday he's seen no signs of violence or problems between the couple.
"It's hard to fathom where they're getting this information," Rittgers said. "From what I've seen, and I've been to the home, there is no evidence whatsoever of any violence."
Rittgers said authorities had removed the bathtub.
The couple had no documented history of domestic violence, Hutzel said. Rittgers said Widmer has no criminal record.
Widmer is a sales manager of sporting events for the county's visitors bureau. His wife was a dental hygienist.
Friends and relatives of both expressed shock after Widmer's arrest and were in court Thursday to show support for him.
http://www.ohio.com/news/ap?articleID=660474&c=y
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By Justin McClelland, Ryan Cook and Eric Robinette - Friday, August 15, 2008
'We believe this to be murder'
Ryan K. Widmer, 27, of Hamilton Twp. was indicted Friday, Aug. 15 by a Warren County grand jury on a charge of aggravated murder in the death of his wife, Sarah, a 2002 graduate of Edgewood High School.
"We believe this to be a murder," Warren County Prosecutor Rachel Hutzel said. "The significant amount of physical and circumstantial evidence that have been uncovered reveal that this was no accident. Sarah died after a violent struggle. .....
http://www.middletownjournal.com/hp/...1608sarah.html
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By Janice Morse • August 18, 2008
Widmer on paid leave while in jail
While Ryan Widmer sits in a jail cell, accused of killing his wife, he is on paid administrative leave from his sports-marketing job with the Warren County Convention and Visitors Bureau, his boss, Shirley Bonekemper said today. .....
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...0107/308180028
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8/20/2008
Husband Pleads Not Guilty To Killing Wife
The Hamilton Township man accused of killing his newlywed wife appeared in court Wednesday. .....
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...2-bc7ef865821f
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By KANTELE FRANKO Associated Press Writer - Published on Wednesday Aug 20, 2008
$1M bond for Ohio man accused in wife's death
A man accused of drowning his wife in a bathtub remained in jail on $1 million bond Wednesday, despite a courtroom plea from the man's in-laws who want him to attend the woman's funeral.
Ryan Widmer, 27, appeared near tears as his brother-in-law spoke during his arraignment on a charge of aggravated murder in the death of Sarah Widmer, 24.
"In our heart of hearts, we don't believe Ryan did this," said Sarah's brother, Mike Steward, speaking for himself and his mother.
They were among some 18 relatives who packed a Warren County Common Pleas courtroom to support Widmer, who pleaded not guilty. If convicted, Widmer could face up to life in prison.
Several relatives began to sob as Magistrate W. Andrew Hasselbach agreed with the prosecution's request to continue the $1 million bond that was set last week. Prosecutors say he is a risk to flee.
Hasselbach also dismissed requests by Widmer's attorney for stipulations that would have helped the family make bond.
Sarah Widmer's relatives declined further comment as they left the courtroom, and it wasn't immediately known whether they will continue to delay her funeral.
Ryan Widmer told a 911 dispatcher Aug. 11 that he found his wife unresponsive in a bathtub in their Hamilton Township home, north of Cincinnati. He said he had tried to resuscitate her, and that she'd fallen asleep in the tub on other occasions.
Warren County Prosecutor Rachel Hutzel has said evidence suggests Sarah Widmer died after a violent struggle. A coroner's preliminary ruling called the death a drowning.
Defense attorney Charlie Rittgers said he's unsure what the evidence is and probably won't know for weeks. He added that family and friends depict the Widmers as happy newlyweds.
"They were deeply in love," Rittgers said. "There was never any animosity or harsh words between them."
Widmer, a Miami University graduate, is on paid leave from his work as a sporting events sales manager with the county's visitors bureau. His wife was a dental hygienist.
Rittgers said family members set up a fund at Fifth-Third Bank to help Widmer with legal fees.
http://www.ohio.com/news/ap?articleID=681794&c=y
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By Janice Morse • August 21, 2008
More details emerge in bathtub death case
Bathtub drowning suspect Ryan Widmer gave police statements that are "not consistent" with the autopsy on his wife, newly released court records show. .....
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...0107/308210023
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Ryan Widmer is led away by Sheriff's deputies after the arraignment, as his lawyer Charlie Rittgers watches. Rittgers says he remains in the dark about what evidence prosecutors have against his client. -- The Enquirer/Leigh Taylor
More photos from Widmer appears in court
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By Denise G. Callahan - Thursday, August 21, 2008
Police search, seize items from Widmer's home, office
Excerpt: According to the affidavit for search warrants executed for the couple's home at 5250 Crested Owl Court and his office at the Warren County Convention and Visitors Bureau, irregularities between what Widmer said happened and the evidence found prompted the murder charge.
Police seized more evidence at the Widmer's work than they did his home, according to search warrant documents filed with the Warren County Common Pleas Court.
They seized payroll, personnel and expense records along with phone logs and travel itineraries. They also collected binders filled with his work as a sales manager in charge of sports events, calendars and planners and an invoice for a Dell Latitude laptop computer — but no computer — among other items. All they took from the home that was authorized by the search warrant was a safe containing bank statements and other documents, a Verizon cellular phone and an HP Pavilion computer.
http://www.oxfordpress.com/hp/conten...widmerweb.html
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By Ryan Cook and Justin McClelland - Friday, August 22, 2008
Widmer posts bond, released from jail
Ryan Widmer — who is accused of drowning his wife in the bathtub of their Hamilton Twp. home — posted bond and left the Warren County Jail today, Aug. 22.
Widmer's bond was lowered from $1 million to $400,000 by Warren County Court of Common Pleas Judge Neal Bronson, according to Widmer's attorney, Charlie Rittgers, The bond was originally set at $1 million last week. .....
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/con...widmerweb.html
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By Janice Morse • August 22, 2008
Widmer's eulogy read at wife's Mass
MASON - Just as Ryan Widmer was being freed from the Warren County jail in Lebanon Friday, a memorial Mass was beginning for his wife at a church in Mason.
Widmer, 27, accused of aggravated murder in his wife’s Aug. 11 bathtub drowning in Hamilton Township, wasn’t released in time to attend the Mass.
But mourners heard a eulogy that Widmer had written for his wife, Sarah, 24. .....
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...0107/308220043
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By Sheila McLaughlin • August 25, 2008
Trial set for Nov. 17 in bathtub death
A trial date has been set for Nov. 17 for the Hamilton Township newlywed accused of killing his wife in the bathtub at their home.
Ryan Widmer, 27, faces a charge of aggravated murder in the death of Sarah Widmer. The 24-year-old woman drowned Aug. 11.
Prosecutors say investigators found indications of a violent struggle, but have not publicly specified that evidence.
Widmer was released from jail Friday after a bondsman posted $400,000 in bail.
He didn’t get out in time for his wife’s funeral Mass at St. Susanna Church in Mason, but a eulogy he wrote was read at the Mass.
Relatives of the couple have disputed that Ryan Widmer killed his wife, saying she habitually fell asleep in the tub and that her death was probably an accident.
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...0107/308250037
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By Sheila McLaughlin • August 28, 2008
Search reveals blood in bathtub death
A blood stain on the carpet under Sarah Widmer’s head and another blood smear on her vagina were found at the scene of her death in Hamilton Township, according to a search warrant unsealed this morning in Warren County. .....
Excerpt: An affidavit for the search warrant, signed by Police Officer Quillan Short, provides some insight into the case but also leaves many unanswered questions.
Quillan wrote that Widmer told him he had removed his wife from the tub. Hamilton Township emergency medical technicians were attempting to resuscitate Sarah when Quillan arrived.
“(I) noted that she was nude and only her hair appeared to be wet. The carpet underneath the body was dry. There were two blood stains noted. The first was in the area of where Sarah A. Widmer’s head was lying; the second blood stain was coming from her vaginal area,” Quillan wrote.
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...0107/308280066
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By Ryan Cook - Thursday, August 28, 2008
Blood stains, documents found in Widmer home; lawyer says they're not evidence of foul play
The findings of a search warrant executed Aug. 13 at the Hamilton Twp. home of Ryan Widmer reveal evidence that could be damaging to his not-guilty plea in the drowning death of his wife, according to records. .....
http://www.oxfordpress.com/hp/conten...web.html?imw=Y
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By 700WLW News - Thursday, August 28, 2008
Unsealed Warrant Casts Doubt on Widmer's Case
View PDF copy of the warrant
911 Call from Suspicious Death Released
http://www.700wlw.com/main.html
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August 28, 2008
Search Warrant Reveals New Details In Newlywed's Slaying
Woman's Body Dry, Hair Wet Despite Drowning In Bathtub
http://www.wlwt.com/news/17325344/detail.html
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How could he do that? her body Dry?
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How could he do that? her body Dry? 
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Sara, it could have been for money, argument, or just that he is a sick Bas^*&. It seems the more we hear that human life is considered expendable for any number of reasons. It's just so sad that these so called humans walk among us everyday   . JMO
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I think there could have been time for her body to dry before someone else got there. If you go swimming your body is going to dry off faster than your hair when you get out of the water.
Since they were newlyweds isn't it possible she could have had some injuries from a wild night of love making?
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I think there could have been time for her body to dry before someone else got there. If you go swimming your body is going to dry off faster than your hair when you get out of the water.
Since they were newlyweds isn't it possible she could have had some injuries from a wild night of love making?
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I do not know grneyes. anything is possible. I am still surprised she was dry. I would like to see and hear more first. IMO
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It's also possible he put a towel over her before help arrived? It's also possible when he pulled her out of the tub he may have accidently hit her head on something and it's also possible when he grabbed her he might have done so between the legs maybe scraping her with a fingernail? Lots of "ifs" in this case. I haven't finished reading through all the articles yet, but from everything I've read so far none of this is adding up.  For Sarah's family to stand behind him says a lot about his character IMO, although I can't help but think back about how Scott Peterson fooled the Rocha's. Back to reading...
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It's also possible he put a towel over her before help arrived? It's also possible when he pulled her out of the tub he may have accidently hit her head on something and it's also possible when he grabbed her he might have done so between the legs maybe scraping her with a fingernail? Lots of "ifs" in this case. I haven't finished reading through all the articles yet, but from everything I've read so far none of this is adding up.  For Sarah's family to stand behind him says a lot about his character IMO, although I can't help but think back about how Scott Peterson fooled the Rocha's. Back to reading...
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There's definitely too much not adding up. Hope they get more definite answers soon.
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It's also possible he put a towel over her before help arrived? It's also possible when he pulled her out of the tub he may have accidently hit her head on something and it's also possible when he grabbed her he might have done so between the legs maybe scraping her with a fingernail? Lots of "ifs" in this case. I haven't finished reading through all the articles yet, but from everything I've read so far none of this is adding up.  For Sarah's family to stand behind him says a lot about his character IMO, although I can't help but think back about how Scott Peterson fooled the Rocha's. Back to reading...
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all good points One2Snoop. thanks for the info
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By Janice Morse • September 24, 2008
Still no autopsy report in bathtub death
Warren County prosecutors have provided about 350 pages of evidence to the lawyer for Ryan Widmer, accused in the bathtub drowning of his 24-year-old wife -- but an autopsy report still isn't among those records.
Tests for alcohol and drugs on the blood of victim Sarah Widmer still weren't complete as of today, said Warren County Prosecutor Rachel Hutzel, following a pre-trial conference with Widmer's lawyer, Charlie Rittgers, and Judge Neal B. Bronson, in Common Pleas Court here this morning.
Hutzel expects tests could take up to eight weeks from the date of Sarah Widmer's Aug. 11 death. The results will be incorporated into an autopsy report that Coroner Russell Uptegrove will prepare.
Uptegrove's preliminary ruling indicated Sarah Widmer drowned.
Her husband had called 911 and reported she had fallen asleep in the bathtub of their Hamilton Township home. The case is that community's first alleged homicide in a decade.
The autopsy findings are a crucial piece of evidence, and key to developing a defense for Widmer, Rittgers said, adding, "I think there will be conclusions drawn by this coroner that will be subject to interpretation."
Further, Rittgers said he thinks investigators have been unable to find any solid motive for why Ryan Widmer, 27, would have killed his wife of less than four months.
By all accounts, the couple appeared to have a happy and loving relationship. But Hutzel again repeated that people don't know what happens between couples in private, and that cases of violence between intimate partners frequently do come as a surprise to relatives and friends.
Although the law doesn't require prosecutors to prove a motive, juries and the public do expect to know why a person committed a murder, Hutzel said.
"We will share our theory of the case and our theory of motive when we get in a front of a jury," Hutzel said.
The next hearing in the case is Oct. 22. The trial is set for Nov. 17.
If convicted of aggravated murder, Widmer would go to prison for 20 years to life.
Hutzel said she remains confident in the case against Widmer, despite apparent continuous widespread support for him. Friends and family say Sarah Widmer habitually fell asleep in odd places, supporting Ryan Widmer's claim that his wife fell asleep in the tub.
But Hutzel has said investigators found evidence of a violent struggle and injuries that cannot be explained by an accidental cause. Authorities have not disclosed that evidence and they say it's unlikely to surface until the case goes to trial.
Widmer is a graduate of Colerain High School and Miami University, and had been working for the Warren County Convention and Visitors Bureau as a sports marketer. His paid leave changed to an unpaid leave Sept. 30.
Rittgers says Widmer, who was freed after $400,000 bond was posted on his behalf, has not returned to work but is still considered an employee of the bureau.
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...0107/309240039
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By Lauren Pack - September 24, 2008
Attorneys in Widmer case still expect November trial
LEBANON — Warren County Prosecutor Rachel Hutzel and Charles Rittgers, attorney for Ryan Widmer, the young husband accused of killing his wife, met in chambers today, Sept. 24, to discuss the status of the case with Common Pleas Judge Neal Bronson.
Both sides emerged saying were ready for trial on Nov. 17.
Widmer, 27, is accused of drowning his 24-year-old wife, Sarah Widmer, in a bathtub at their Hamilton Twp. home on Aug. 11.
Rittgers said his client has not signed a time wavier for his right to a speedy trial, which means the case must be tried in 90 days.
"I'm pushing for it," said Rittgers, adding it is unusual for a case of this severity to be tried in three months.
Hutzel also said the prosecution is pushing for a November date.
Rittgers said he has not received an autopsy report on Sarah from the Warren County Coroner's office. The report was expected this week within the four to five week time frame, but Rittgers said he is now being told it could take another two weeks.
The defense attorney said he believes the autopsy report is the key from which the prosecution will draw conclusions about Sarah's death.
The attorney said he has been searching for anything that might be used as a motive by the prosecution, but has found nothing. Rittgers did note that a motive is not needed to get a conviction.
Rittgers said Widmer has "no clue" why anyone could believe he had a motive to kill his wife. The attorney said others he has talked to who knew the couple have said the same thing.
The attorney said he may file a motion in the next couple days to compel the autopsy report to be completed. Another hearing in front of the Bronson is scheduled for Oct. 22.
The prosecution filed a motion two weeks ago demanding that Widmer produce the laptop issued to him by his employer, the Warren County Convention and Visitors Bureau. Arnold claims in the motion that the laptop was "documented as being present" in Widmer's home when medical personnel responded to his home the night Sarah was found dead.
A judge has also ordered Bethesda Medical Center at Arrow Springs in Lebanon to turn over any medical records it had relating to Sarah's treatment the night of her death.
The records may shed light on inconsistencies in Widmer's statements that he pulled his wife from the bathtub and those made by Hamilton Twp. police officer Quillan Short in an affidavit.
Short said that upon arriving at the Widmer house, emergency workers found Sarah Widmer on the floor and that she "was nude and only her hair was wet. The carpet underneath her body was dry."
The affidavit also stated there were two blood stains — one around her head and one near her vaginal area.
Rittgers said Wednesday the blood may have come from capillaries that burst when Sarah drown in the bathtub. Widmer said his wife was known to fall asleep in the tub.
Widmer was removed from paid leave on Monday, Sept. 15. He works in sports marketing and will remain on unpaid leave until the criminal case against him is completed.
http://www.oxfordpress.com/hp/conten...508widmer.html
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By Lauren Pack - September 24, 2008
Attorneys in Widmer case still expect November trial
LEBANON — Warren County Prosecutor Rachel Hutzel and Charles Rittgers, attorney for Ryan Widmer, the young husband accused of killing his wife, met in chambers today, Sept. 24, to discuss the status of the case with Common Pleas Judge Neal Bronson.
Both sides emerged saying were ready for trial on Nov. 17.
Widmer, 27, is accused of drowning his 24-year-old wife, Sarah Widmer, in a bathtub at their Hamilton Twp. home on Aug. 11.
Rittgers said his client has not signed a time wavier for his right to a speedy trial, which means the case must be tried in 90 days.
"I'm pushing for it," said Rittgers, adding it is unusual for a case of this severity to be tried in three months.
Hutzel also said the prosecution is pushing for a November date.
Rittgers said he has not received an autopsy report on Sarah from the Warren County Coroner's office. The report was expected this week within the four to five week time frame, but Rittgers said he is now being told it could take another two weeks.
The defense attorney said he believes the autopsy report is the key from which the prosecution will draw conclusions about Sarah's death.
The attorney said he has been searching for anything that might be used as a motive by the prosecution, but has found nothing. Rittgers did note that a motive is not needed to get a conviction.
Rittgers said Widmer has "no clue" why anyone could believe he had a motive to kill his wife. The attorney said others he has talked to who knew the couple have said the same thing.
The attorney said he may file a motion in the next couple days to compel the autopsy report to be completed. Another hearing in front of the Bronson is scheduled for Oct. 22.
The prosecution filed a motion two weeks ago demanding that Widmer produce the laptop issued to him by his employer, the Warren County Convention and Visitors Bureau. Arnold claims in the motion that the laptop was "documented as being present" in Widmer's home when medical personnel responded to his home the night Sarah was found dead.
A judge has also ordered Bethesda Medical Center at Arrow Springs in Lebanon to turn over any medical records it had relating to Sarah's treatment the night of her death.
The records may shed light on inconsistencies in Widmer's statements that he pulled his wife from the bathtub and those made by Hamilton Twp. police officer Quillan Short in an affidavit.
Short said that upon arriving at the Widmer house, emergency workers found Sarah Widmer on the floor and that she "was nude and only her hair was wet. The carpet underneath her body was dry."
The affidavit also stated there were two blood stains — one around her head and one near her vaginal area.
Rittgers said Wednesday the blood may have come from capillaries that burst when Sarah drown in the bathtub. Widmer said his wife was known to fall asleep in the tub.
Widmer was removed from paid leave on Monday, Sept. 15. He works in sports marketing and will remain on unpaid leave until the criminal case against him is completed.
http://www.oxfordpress.com/hp/conten...508widmer.html
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No motive. how weird.
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Something that just doesn't add up. If he found her in the tub it seems as if he would have just grabbed her up out of it with out taking time to dry her off first.It seems like the carpet would have been soaked around the tub area where he took her out. So even if he dried her off after he got her out there is no way the carpet would have been dry that quick. He could have accidentally hit her head when he took her out, but the carpet sticks out as a red flag to me. I'm not understanding what they mean by there was evidence of a struggle.
Wish we knew a little more. No motive and the family standing behind him is another puzzle. Not saying he killed her but either the officer and medics lied or he's not telling the whole truth. JMO
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By Janice Morse - September 25, 2008
Autopsy report still pending
Blood-test results awaited in bathtub drowning
Warren County prosecutors have provided about 350 pages of evidence to the lawyer for Ryan Widmer, accused in the bathtub drowning of his 24-year-old wife, but an autopsy report still isn't among those records.
Excerpt: Further, Rittgers said he thinks investigators have been unable to find any solid motive for why Ryan Widmer, 27, would have killed his wife of less than four months. By all accounts, the couple appeared to have a happy and loving relationship.
But Hutzel repeated a previous comment that people don't know what happens between couples in private, and that cases of violence between intimate partners frequently do come as a surprise to relatives and friends.
Although the law doesn't require prosecutors to prove a motive, juries and the public do expect to know why a person committed a murder, Hutzel said.
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Autopsy report still pending
Blood-test results awaited in bathtub drowning
Warren County prosecutors have provided about 350 pages of evidence to the lawyer for Ryan Widmer, accused in the bathtub drowning of his 24-year-old wife, but an autopsy report still isn't among those records.
Excerpt: Further, Rittgers said he thinks investigators have been unable to find any solid motive for why Ryan Widmer, 27, would have killed his wife of less than four months. By all accounts, the couple appeared to have a happy and loving relationship.
But Hutzel repeated a previous comment that people don't know what happens between couples in private, and that cases of violence between intimate partners frequently do come as a surprise to relatives and friends.
Although the law doesn't require prosecutors to prove a motive, juries and the public do expect to know why a person committed a murder, Hutzel said.
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maybe she found out something she was not supposed to know about him.
Kind of like the Hacking couple. IMO
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maybe she found out something she was not supposed to know about him.
Kind of like the Hacking couple. IMO
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The Entwistle case comes to mind to.
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The Entwistle case comes to mind to.
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Yes. thank goodness there are no children!!!!!!!!!!!imo
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Lawyer fights for evidence
If bathtub-drowning suspect Ryan Widmer had been in a car accident and was sued, he could get "any and all documents relevant to the case, and there are no surprises," his lawyer said.
But because Widmer faces criminal charges - accused of killing his 24-year-old wife in their Hamilton Township bathtub - the court rules are very different.
In Ohio criminal cases, a statewide court rule prevents defense lawyers such as Charlie Rittgers from getting witness statements, police reports and other information that would be shared without question in a car-wreck lawsuit.
Rittgers thinks that's wrong.
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Coroner Completes Widmer Autopsy Report
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Very interesting. Too bad we have to wait.........for the results. sara
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