Random Discussions On The Case

[Kate Sachel]

I'd like for this thread to be a place where individuals can have discussion regarding random topics involving the case that may be too small for their own thread or don't fall into one of the categories already created.

Kate

[Kate Sachel]

I recently finished re-reading the book "I'm not Dancing anymore" by OJ's niece Terri Baker.

Terri lived with OJ and Nicole for a period of time, and her family stayed at Rockingham for much of the criminal trial and Terri was by OJ's side during much of the civil trial.

She mentions that when she and her parents visited the Bundy crime scene the day after the murders, they had all viewed blood on the back gate.

Thoughts?

Kate

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

I recently finished re-reading the book "I'm not Dancing anymore" by OJ's niece Terri Baker.

Terri lived with OJ and Nicole for a period of time, and her family stayed at Rockingham for much of the criminal trial and Terri was by OJ's side during much of the civil trial.

She mentions that when she and her parents visited the Bundy crime scene the day after the murders, they had all viewed blood on the back gate.

Thoughts?

Kate

Did she mention the time of day when they visited? I think the police should not have so quickly released the crime scene. Were they aware that Simpson's family had visited?

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

I recently finished re-reading the book "I'm not Dancing anymore" by OJ's niece Terri Baker.

Terri lived with OJ and Nicole for a period of time, and her family stayed at Rockingham for much of the criminal trial and Terri was by OJ's side during much of the civil trial.

She mentions that when she and her parents visited the Bundy crime scene the day after the murders, they had all viewed blood on the back gate.

Thoughts?

Kate

I have briefly reviewed the testimony of Simpson's sister and, if Terri visited the scene, it would seem that she probably visited after Simpson's blood had been taken.

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Did she mention the time of day when they visited? I think the police should not have so quickly released the crime scene. Were they aware that Simpson's family had visited?

There is no mention of the police being aware of the visit. As for the time, it appears to have been in the afternoon but I would have to go back and check that to confirm.

Kate

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I have briefly reviewed the testimony of Simpson's sister and, if Terri visited the scene, it would seem that she probably visited after Simpson's blood had been taken.

I believe they visited the scene while OJ was at Parker Center. I do not have the book with me, but will double check this evening.

Kate

[weezer]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

I recently finished re-reading the book "I'm not Dancing anymore" by OJ's niece Terri Baker.

Terri lived with OJ and Nicole for a period of time, and her family stayed at Rockingham for much of the criminal trial and Terri was by OJ's side during much of the civil trial.

She mentions that when she and her parents visited the Bundy crime scene the day after the murders, they had all viewed blood on the back gate.

Thoughts?

Kate

This is one of the books I have not read --

What was your take on it? Did you get the feeling from other things she said that she was being honest? Whose daughter is she?

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

This is one of the books I have not read --

What was your take on it? Did you get the feeling from other things she said that she was being honest? Whose daughter is she?

Her mom is Shirley Baker, and I found the good to be good.

I thought it to be a good book. It wasn't about blame or defenses, it was just an honest look on how she viewed OJ and Nicole Simpson and how she viewed both the criminal and civil cases. She definitely appears to believe OJ guilty of murder, though at the beginning she thought him innocent, and talks openly about how she was not allowed to question OJ's guilt with her family.

She had positive and negative things to say about both OJ and Nicole, which showed her willingness to be candid and unbiased. There was never a sense of "Nicole bashing" when she spoke of what she felt to be her flaws however.

I really would recommend the book, she had alot of good thoughts.

Kate

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Did she mention the time of day when they visited? I think the police should not have so quickly released the crime scene. Were they aware that Simpson's family had visited?

From testimony i read The Bundy crime scene was released on 6/14?? I will recheck the date again.
The contents of the condo removed by family and sone friends and the outside washed down with a water hose by Lou Brown and some helpers.imo

A lady across the street fronm me was found dead in her house. le put up yellow tape and it remained for a little more than three weeks.

martin II

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I have briefly reviewed the testimony of Simpson's sister and, if Terri visited the scene, it would seem that she probably visited after Simpson's blood had been taken.

OJs blood was taken on 6/13 at about 1-2 pm.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

Her mom is Shirley Baker, and I found the good to be good.

I thought it to be a good book. It wasn't about blame or defenses, it was just an honest look on how she viewed OJ and Nicole Simpson and how she viewed both the criminal and civil cases. She definitely appears to believe OJ guilty of murder, though at the beginning she thought him innocent, and talks openly about how she was not allowed to question OJ's guilt with her family.

She had positive and negative things to say about both OJ and Nicole, which showed her willingness to be candid and unbiased. There was never a sense of "Nicole bashing" when she spoke of what she felt to be her flaws however.

I really would recommend the book, she had alot of good thoughts.

Kate

okay -- you sold me -- I plan on getting the book. I saw her once on tv but didn't catch all of the interview so I'm really limited on what I know about her. Isn't Shirley the one that was in Vegas with orenthal for one of his hearings?

[Redmama]

Kate - love this thread - makes me a little more comfortable to reply for some reason.

If I was at a crime scene and saw something like a spot of blood, the last thing I would think to do was go check the police records - I probably would assume it was known about and wouldn't realize how big of a deal it was until way down the line.

What an awful thing to have to see, no matter what the circumstances.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

I believe they visited the scene while OJ was at Parker Center. I do not have the book with me, but will double check this evening.

Kate

"This is from Ms. Shirley Baker's testimony of July 11th

MR. SHAPIRO: Where was your brother when you arrived?

MS. BAKER: My brother--the first time we went there, we weren't able to get in, and when we went back we went into the house and my brother was sitting on the couch in the TV room. I would think that Ms. Terri was talking about the day of the 14th.

MR. SHAPIRO: Why weren't you able to get in the first time?

MS. BAKER: The police would not allow us into the home.

MR. SHAPIRO: And what time was this?

MS. BAKER: 4:30, five o'clock.

MR. SHAPIRO: Where did you go?

MS. BAKER: We left there and we went to the police station to see if we could find out anything and then from there we left and we went to the Brentwood Lodge, which is up the street from O.J.'s house.

MR. SHAPIRO: And then you returned that evening?

MS. BAKER: Yes. We kept calling until we were able to get into the house.

MR. SHAPIRO: When you came into the house did you see your brother?

MS. BAKER: Yes. We walked in and went into the TV room and he was sitting there.

MR. SHAPIRO: And can you describe what his mood and demeanor was like when you first saw him?

MS. BAKER: He was devastated. He was crying, he was sad, he was in disbelief, he was in shock. It was--it was sad, it was just so sad.

MR. SHAPIRO: Did you try to comfort him?

MS. BAKER: We tried to, but we were--we were all in shock. Umm, Nicole had been a part of our family for 17 years and we couldn't--we couldn't believe what was going on and we didn't know what was going on because we were only hearing bits and pieces from the newspaper and everything and the TV we had no idea what had happened and we were just all just devastated.

MR. SHAPIRO: Were there other family members there when you were there with your brother?

MS. BAKER: Yes, there were.

MR. SHAPIRO: What other family members were there?

MS. BAKER: My mother was there, Arnelle was there, Jason was there. There was a house full of people there. Some of my children were there, friends.

MR. SHAPIRO: Were there people that were coming and going?"

I guess the some of my children leaves the answer to the question vague. IIRC, when Simpson arrived at Rockingham and was handcuffed and taken to parker center, there were still members of LE at Bundy.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by martin II

From testimony i read The Bundy crime scene was released on 6/14?? I will recheck the date again.
The contents of the condo removed by family and sone friends and the outside washed down with a water hose by Lou Brown and some helpers.imo

A lady across the street fronm me was found dead in her house. le put up yellow tape and it remained for a little more than three weeks.

martin II

IIRC, there was at some time a dispute between the Browns and I can't remember who else about going to Bundy and taking things and I can't remember how soon after the dispute occurred.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

There is no mention of the police being aware of the visit. As for the time, it appears to have been in the afternoon but I would have to go back and check that to confirm.

Kate

I have no reason to disbelieve Ms. Terri's account and that is not my point. I do have a problem with LE not knowing who was at the murder scene or allowing others into the scene when they had not fully processed the scene. I do not have doubt that Ms. Terri at some point saw blood on the gate. The question remains as to what blood she saw and when was the blood she saw deposited and exactly what blood she saw.

There may have been an implication by the defense that all the blood on the gate was deposited but my understanding is that one of the stains collected three weeks later contained EDTA in a level that suggested the blood had been planted and I do not know if the other gate stains were tested for the presence of EDTA. If LE was that lapse in the protection of the crime scene, then the possibility that the evidence should not be trusted looms large, imho.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

"This is from Ms. Shirley Baker's testimony of July 11th

MR. SHAPIRO: Where was your brother when you arrived?

MS. BAKER: My brother--the first time we went there, we weren't able to get in, and when we went back we went into the house and my brother was sitting on the couch in the TV room. I would think that Ms. Terri was talking about the day of the 14th.

MR. SHAPIRO: Why weren't you able to get in the first time?

MS. BAKER: The police would not allow us into the home.

MR. SHAPIRO: And what time was this?

MS. BAKER: 4:30, five o'clock.

MR. SHAPIRO: Where did you go?

MS. BAKER: We left there and we went to the police station to see if we could find out anything and then from there we left and we went to the Brentwood Lodge, which is up the street from O.J.'s house.

MR. SHAPIRO: And then you returned that evening?

MS. BAKER: Yes. We kept calling until we were able to get into the house.

MR. SHAPIRO: When you came into the house did you see your brother?

MS. BAKER: Yes. We walked in and went into the TV room and he was sitting there.

MR. SHAPIRO: And can you describe what his mood and demeanor was like when you first saw him?

MS. BAKER: He was devastated. He was crying, he was sad, he was in disbelief, he was in shock. It was--it was sad, it was just so sad.

MR. SHAPIRO: Did you try to comfort him?

MS. BAKER: We tried to, but we were--we were all in shock. Umm, Nicole had been a part of our family for 17 years and we couldn't--we couldn't believe what was going on and we didn't know what was going on because we were only hearing bits and pieces from the newspaper and everything and the TV we had no idea what had happened and we were just all just devastated.

MR. SHAPIRO: Were there other family members there when you were there with your brother?

MS. BAKER: Yes, there were.

MR. SHAPIRO: What other family members were there?

MS. BAKER: My mother was there, Arnelle was there, Jason was there. There was a house full of people there. Some of my children were there, friends.

MR. SHAPIRO: Were there people that were coming and going?"

I guess the some of my children leaves the answer to the question vague. IIRC, when Simpson arrived at Rockingham and was handcuffed and taken to parker center, there were still members of LE at Bundy.

when Cora went to Bundy on the day of the 14th lou Brown and i think cici. denise and one or two other friends were removing Nicoles and the childrens items from the house. She helped pack some of nicoles things upstairs and Lou Brown and another man were washing down the walkway.maby le was there in the morning of 14th.Fung completed his collection at about 6 pm on 6/13.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I have no reason to disbelieve Ms. Terri's account and that is not my point. I do have a problem with LE not knowing who was at the murder scene or allowing others into the scene when they had not fully processed the scene. I do not have doubt that Ms. Terri at some point saw blood on the gate. The question remains as to what blood she saw and when was the blood she saw deposited and exactly what blood she saw.

There may have been an implication by the defense that all the blood on the gate was deposited but my understanding is that one of the stains collected three weeks later contained EDTA in a level that suggested the blood had been planted and I do not know if the other gate stains were tested for the presence of EDTA. If LE was that lapse in the protection of the crime scene, then the possibility that the evidence should not be trusted looms large, imho.

Cora stated that Lous friend was washing down all the outside,don't know if that includes the "gates" she just said they were washing down the walkway.
Obviously le had released the crime scene before this activity.She was there i think at aobut 1-2 pm. I think that after this was when le returned to check
to see if that key oj had was for the gate or the house and a locksmith was involved in checking or changing the lock.So it seems they returned for the lock issues after they had closed the bundy scene?
Others had brought flowers to the gate area also.I think front gate.not sure.
If Terri was there on the 14th then she was there when lou was cleaning the walkway.Say from 2 pm to night time.

Cora in her testimony was asked who was there when she was there and i don't remember her naming Terri.
imo

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Redmama

Kate - love this thread - makes me a little more comfortable to reply for some reason.

If I was at a crime scene and saw something like a spot of blood, the last thing I would think to do was go check the police records - I probably would assume it was known about and wouldn't realize how big of a deal it was until way down the line.

What an awful thing to have to see, no matter what the circumstances.

If she was at Bundy before the crime scene was released on 6/14 there was blood everywhere. After the release, the water hose was washing eveything
down. The blood spot eventually found was very small so she must have had a eagle eye.imo

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by martin II

when Cora went to Bundy on the day of the 14th lou Brown and i think cici. denise and one or two other friends were removing Nicoles and the childrens items from the house. She helped pack some of nicoles things upstairs and Lou Brown and another man were washing down the walkway.maby le was there in the morning of 14th.Fung completed his collection at about 6 pm on 6/13.

As I said, I do not doubt Ms. Terri's account of what she saw. I do not know whether she meant the 13th or the 14th. Either way she would have visited after LE had taken Simpson's blood, imho. At what time did DF allegedly take possession of Simpson's blood sample?

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

I recently finished re-reading the book "I'm not Dancing anymore" by OJ's niece Terri Baker.

Terri lived with OJ and Nicole for a period of time, and her family stayed at Rockingham for much of the criminal trial and Terri was by OJ's side during much of the civil trial.

She mentions that when she and her parents visited the Bundy crime scene the day after the murders, they had all viewed blood on the back gate.

Thoughts?

Kate

Was the point of your post to dispel the notion that LE could have planted the blood or was it to show the emotional impact that a bloody murder scene had on the families of the victims and the accused, or that the site of the blood on the gate caused Ms. Terri to rethink her uncle's guilt? I think I should have asked that question first.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

As I said, I do not doubt Ms. Terri's account of what she saw. I do not know whether she meant the 13th or the 14th. Either way she would have visited after LE had taken Simpson's blood, imho. At what time did DF allegedly take possession of Simpson's blood sample?

vanhatter said he gave Fung the envelope at about 2;15 at rockingham on 6/13.Fung then went Bundy to collect evidence.I think that is correct. I don't think she was at bundy on 6/13 because the scene was full of cops.

The only time i see the crime scene being released would be the morning of 6/14 before 1 pm when it was washed down. So Terri was in the back walkway facing the back gate and saw this small blood stain when the area was being washed?

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I have no reason to disbelieve Ms. Terri's account and that is not my point. I do have a problem with LE not knowing who was at the murder scene or allowing others into the scene when they had not fully processed the scene. I do not have doubt that Ms. Terri at some point saw blood on the gate. The question remains as to what blood she saw and when was the blood she saw deposited and exactly what blood she saw.

There may have been an implication by the defense that all the blood on the gate was deposited but my understanding is that one of the stains collected three weeks later contained EDTA in a level that suggested the blood had been planted and I do not know if the other gate stains were tested for the presence of EDTA. If LE was that lapse in the protection of the crime scene, then the possibility that the evidence should not be trusted looms large, imho.

Correction-There may have been an implication by the defense that all the blood on the gate was planted...

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by martin II

vanhatter said he gave Fung the envelope at about 2;15 at rockingham on 6/13.Fung then went Bundy to collect evidence.I think that is correct. I don't think she was at bundy on 6/13 because the scene was full of cops.

The only time i see the crime scene being released would be the morning of 6/14 before 1 pm when it was washed down. So Terri was in the back walkway facing the back gate and saw this small blood stain when the area was being washed?

Ms. Terri said she went to Bundy with her parents. According, to Ms. Baker's testimony, she remained at Rockingham on the 13th, which would mean that any visit to Bundy would have occurred after the 13th.

[martin II]

I am not sure Terri was a witness in either trial.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Ms. Terri said she went to Bundy with her parents. According, to Ms. Baker's testimony, she remained at Rockingham on the 13th, which would mean that any visit to Bundy would have occurred after the 13th.

Then it would have to be the morning of 6/14 before or at the time the Bundy scene was being released or at or after 1 pm when the scene was being washed down with the water hose.
I don't know what time on 6/14 the crime scene was released. I don't think ojs family would be allowed to be inside before the crime scene was released.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Did she mention the time of day when they visited? I think the police should not have so quickly released the crime scene. Were they aware that Simpson's family had visited?

Here Terri is quoted about who went to bundy with her.

"I thought back to the day when dad and I had gone by the murder scene...We had
seen blood on the back gate that day..."

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Was the point of your post to dispel the notion that LE could have planted the blood or was it to show the emotional impact that a bloody murder scene had on the families of the victims and the accused, or that the site of the blood on the gate caused Ms. Terri to rethink her uncle's guilt? I think I should have asked that question first.

I didn't have a real point as far as how I personally viewed it, I only found it interesting that she noted that there was blood on the back gate when she was there while some have said that the blood did not appear there until much later.

In going back, by the way, and viewing her comments I have determined that her visit to Bundy must have been on June 14th. She doesn't specify the date, in fact she notes "it was a day after the murders and all the blood was still there" which may lead someone to believe she was there on June 13th. However, she states that the visit was the morning after they spent their first night at Rockingham. They arrived at Rockingham on the afternoon of June 13th, so that puts the visit to Bundy at June 14th.

Kate

[Kate Sachel]

Here is another interesting point in the book which makes me wonder if violence was considered the acceptable way to keep someone in line within the Simpson family.

Terri was in the backseat of a vehicle with her father and mother in the front seats when she finally dared to ask them "how come no one is asking whether or not he really could have done this? What if he did?". She states that her mother's reaction was "instantaneous and violent as she flew over the seat and began beating me with her fists". Her father had to pull the vehicle over and Terri had to jump out the back.

Kate

[SlowHandSam]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

Here is another interesting point in the book which makes me wonder if violence was considered the acceptable way to keep someone in line within the Simpson family.

Terri was in the backseat of a vehicle with her father and mother in the front seats when she finally dared to ask them "how come no one is asking whether or not he really could have done this? What if he did?". She states that her mother's reaction was "instantaneous and violent as she flew over the seat and began beating me with her fists". Her father had to pull the vehicle over and Terri had to jump out the back.

Kate

Kate, this is an interesting point you bring up. I have often believed that familial violence isn't just one generation. I believe, more often than not, it's cyclical and wide-spread.

Children learn behavior from parents and close family.

It's a shame that her mother reacted that way to asking an honest question. Certainly her mother had to have wondered, even just a little, in the way back of her mind if it was possible he did it.

Perhaps she already knew the answer?

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by SlowHandSam

Kate, this is an interesting point you bring up. I have often believed that familial violence isn't just one generation. I believe, more often than not, it's cyclical and wide-spread.

Children learn behavior from parents and close family.

It's a shame that her mother reacted that way to asking an honest question. Certainly her mother had to have wondered, even just a little, in the way back of her mind if it was possible he did it.

Perhaps she already knew the answer?

It appears that her parents refused to entertain the idea in any format. According to Terri, it is her father's belief that there is a conspiracy in America to bring down all successful black men and thus OJ simply was framed.

Apparently no one in the family was allowed to question OJ on any point in his life no matter what the circumstance, and when Terri dared to do just that her family was furious and questioned her on why she would want to hurt people that way. That struck me as quite odd; does asking honest and insightful questions equate into a desire to want to hurt someone?

Kate

[SlowHandSam]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

It appears that her parents refused to entertain the idea in any format. According to Terri, it is her father's belief that there is a conspiracy in America to bring down all successful black men and thus OJ simply was framed.

Apparently no one in the family was allowed to question OJ on any point in his life no matter what the circumstance, and when Terri dared to do just that her family was furious and questioned her on why she would want to hurt people that way. That struck me as quite odd; does asking honest and insightful questions equate into a desire to want to hurt someone?

Kate

Perhaps. Especially if you take into consideration the wild belief about the conspiracy in America to bring down all successful black men.

It seems that belief continues on, even today.

It's the SODDI mentality, IMO.

To me, I believe that for some people the moment you ask the question you have to be prepared for the answer(s). The notion of not asking is, to me, a way to avoid the conversation.

[martin II]

Terri is quoted.

"I asked Uncle O. J. about the fibers later. He didn’t have an answer."



"All through the trial, we had discussed gathering together to go on vacation to celebrate as a family. But, it never happened. Instead, Uncle O. J. chartered a plane so he could fly his buddies to Florida for a round of golf."

[martin II]

Cora fischman testrified that when she arrived at Bundy on 6/14 lou brown and a friend were washing down the walkways of the house with a water house and removing the contents of the house.

She was asked give the names of all those there and she did. Terri nor her father were named.

It would be interesting to know exactly when Terri and her Father were at the back gate at bundy.imo

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by martin II

Cora fischman testrified that when she arrived at Bundy on 6/14 lou brown and a friend were washing down the walkways of the house with a water house and removing the contents of the house.

She was asked give the names of all those there and she did. Terri nor her father were named.

It would be interesting to know exactly when Terri and her Father were at the back gate at bundy.imo

She and her father were there prior to the wash down, and Terri went back to Bundy later with Ron Fischman and that was when the place had just been hosed down. The Browns ended up having LE remove Terri from the condo because she was a member of the Simpson family and thus they stated that they were uncomfortable with her presence.

Kate

[weezer]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

She and her father were there prior to the wash down, and Terri went back to Bundy later with Ron Fischman and that was when the place had just been hosed down. The Browns ended up having LE remove Terri from the condo because she was a member of the Simpson family and thus they stated that they were uncomfortable with her presence.

Kate

wasn't there pictures showing the blood on the back gate taken at the time of the murders?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

wasn't there pictures showing the blood on the back gate taken at the time of the murders?

If there was a picture of blood on the back gate then there would have been no argument about it if was or was not. Don't you think?I don't think there was a picture.imo

[martin II]

T.B.

"Like Uncle O. J., Marcus Allen definitely preferred white women... I always
suspected Marcus wanted everything Uncle O. J. had-including Nicole...We all
knew Marcus had an affair with Nicole."..

[limakey]

Kate,

Is there any other information that confirms that Terri and parents did go to Bundy right after the murders?

I find it hard to believe that her parents would have gone to Bundy at all. I mean what would be the purpose of their visit? They already knew the Browns believed OJ murdered their daughter-sister.

I just don't see the point of them going to Bundy. I know they loved Nicole and she was a member of their family for 17 years but why would they go over there and even risk running into the Browns or worse, the LAPD?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by limakey

Kate,

Is there any other information that confirms that Terri and parents did go to Bundy right after the murders?

I find it hard to believe that her parents would have gone to Bundy at all. I mean what would be the purpose of their visit? They already knew the Browns believed OJ murdered their daughter-sister.

I just don't see the point of them going to Bundy. I know they loved Nicole and she was a member of their family for 17 years but why would they go over there and even risk running into the Browns or worse, the LAPD?

Limakey

That is the same question i have.

6/14 ---Le is there closing down the crime scene at some time that
morning/day

Nicoles friends about 4-5 of them are removing childrens and nicoles
contents from the condo.

People are leaving flowers at the bundy sidewalk.

Lou Browns friend is outside washing down the back,side and front
walkway crime scene of blood etc.

Terrie and her father are walking around the crime scene looking for
evidence? Examining the back gate?

From other comments it seems that terri had some long term
dissatisfaction that she was not the recipiant of ojs charity as other family mebers or that she thought she deserved.

Note
Her comments about oj renting a plane to take some friends to play Golf ALL DURING THE TRIAL? Thats news. When did this happen?

Ron F. testified but was not asked questions about any visit to Bundy on 6/14.

Wonder why the prosecution nor the plaintiffs lawyers thought to call Terri as their witness to verify that blood on the gate.
imo

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by limakey

Kate,

Is there any other information that confirms that Terri and parents did go to Bundy right after the murders?

I find it hard to believe that her parents would have gone to Bundy at all. I mean what would be the purpose of their visit? They already knew the Browns believed OJ murdered their daughter-sister.

I just don't see the point of them going to Bundy. I know they loved Nicole and she was a member of their family for 17 years but why would they go over there and even risk running into the Browns or worse, the LAPD?

Perhaps you don't see the point, but that doesn't mean that others don't have a reason why they do the things they do.

First of all, they didn't love Nicole. As a matter of fact, that portion of the family hardly ever saw either OJ or Nicole and Terri's parents didn't agree with their lifestyle. Terri spent a summer living with OJ and Nicole, but by the end of summer she and Nicole had a falling out that was never resolved and Nicole hated her. Terri spoke in the book about how she could not bring herself to grieve for Nicole, that Nicole was a woman her family hardly knew.

Terri and her father appeared not to have planned the visit. In the book, she speaks of how she and her father went to the grecoery store to pick up items, and out of impulse, and a curiousity they she said they couldn't explain, they found themselves at Bundy.

Tourists came from around the United States to visit that condo on Bundy out of morbid curiousity, yet you find it difficult to believe that members of the family involved wouldn't? Interesting.

Kate