Michelle Young November 2, 2006

[zed]

"Michelle Young was about 20 weeks pregnant when she was beaten to death in her Wake County home in 2006."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3151430/

This Jul. 3, 2008 article addresses whether the death of an unborn child constitutes murder, and Michelle Young is mentioned.

There are interesting details surrounding this murder that resemble spousal homicide. The case is unsolved.

Here's another article where someone has been charged with the death of unborn children in NC.

She was 5 months pregnant when shot, the twins were delivered and died the next day. "North Carolina law does not recognize the death of a fetus or unborn child as a result of a violent crime as a homicide.

Chapman ... is expected to make his first court appearance Thursday on the two murder charges, as well as a charge of possession of a firearm by a convicted felon."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3144303/

If the law is changed, and if this was a spousal homicide, Jason Young could be a little bit worried.

[zed]

Link to the proposed law: http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2007/B...ML/S295v0.html

[Barbara2]

I don't know if he would be charged if the law is implemented now. I believe the law would have to be in effect at the time of the crime.

[zed]

Originally Posted by Barbara2

I don't know if he would be charged if the law is implemented now. I believe the law would have to be in effect at the time of the crime.

Possibly, but it will be interesting to see how this plays out, as Chapman has been charged without the law being in place.

[Barbara2]

Originally Posted by zed

Possibly, but it will be interesting to see how this plays out, as Chapman has been charged without the law being in place.

I think the difference there is that they delivered the twins and they died after delivery. It's a small technicality but I think they can charge him since they weren't in the "unborn" category and did die as a result of his actions.

[Barbara2]

I do agree with you though that the murderer should be charged with 2 murders.

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by Barbara2

I do agree with you though that the murderer should be charged with 2 murders.

Hi I am a lurker on Michelle Young over at InSessions (when it was operational). I think if any woman who is pregant at the time of her murder the perp should be charged with 2 deaths. IMO

I also cannot let go of the idea that Michelle's sister had to go to her house to get a fax for JY. Something wrong there. I do not have a POI but that still gets at me!!!!!!!!!!! thanks. Glad you are here......IMO

[Notknowingall]

Originally Posted by Barbara2

I do agree with you though that the murderer should be charged with 2 murders.

ITA with you there.

[Barbara2]

Originally Posted by SaraSidle

Hi I am a lurker on Michelle Young over at InSessions (when it was operational). I think if any woman who is pregant at the time of her murder the perp should be charged with 2 deaths. IMO

I also cannot let go of the idea that Michelle's sister had to go to her house to get a fax for JY. Something wrong there. I do not have a POI but that still gets at me!!!!!!!!!!! thanks. Glad you are here......IMO

The husband certainly has given many reason to believe that he killed his wife. It will be interesting to see what comes out when the trial takes place since so little has leaked out in this one.

[SaraSidle]

Is there a trial date? What do you think of his alibi?

[Barbara2]

Originally Posted by SaraSidle

Is there a trial date? What do you think of his alibi?

There has been no arrest. The husband was out of town the night she was killed. He had a business meeting the next morning at 10 a.m. The meeting location was 5 hours away. He stayed at a hotel that was 2 1/2 hours away from his house leaving him still 2 1/2 hours away from his meeting. He called his wife's sister the following morning and asked her to go over to his house and get a document that he had left on the printer. That's all I know for sure. Oh, and he was having a "romantic relationship" with a sorority sister of his wife.

[SaraSidle]

I still think he is a POI but I would like to see more evidence. IMO

[cougermom]

Originally Posted by SaraSidle

I still think he is a POI but I would like to see more evidence. IMO

I agree and apparently the DA agrees also.CM

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by cougermom

I agree and apparently the DA agrees also.CM

I think that is the only hold up but I am sure they have more than what they are letting on. IMO

[cougermom]

I think,like the Ramsey child,they have unidentified DNA and that is a big problem. I also don`t believe that Jason Young`s alibi can be broke.
Can you imagine what the mother and father of this child went through being called murders in every news outlet in the US and dealing with the death of this beautiful little girl? My heart breaks for them. I hope the Detective that called Patsy Ramsey a murder of her own child on national TV just to sell his book burns in hell for what he said and wrote.I wonder if the money he made off calling this mother a murderer is worth it. He will lose 10 x the amount he made off her pain. Sorry for the venting,I just hope Jason does not have to suffer the name calling as long as the Ramsey`s did. CM

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by zed

"Michelle Young was about 20 weeks pregnant when she was beaten to death in her Wake County home in 2006."

<snipped>
If the law is changed, and if this was a spousal homicide, Jason Young could be a little bit worried.

Thanx for starting a Michelle thread.
Not sure why Jason would be worried about anything at this point, except to clear his name .
There have been no charges or arrests...

5108 Birchleaf Drive.

I was just reading that the home was finally sold, it is interesting to note that a sale reguires an attorney to be present at the time of the sale, for both the sellers and buyers. It is the law in NC......
(I still can not imagine anyone wanting to live there.)

I wonder if Jason had to attend such a meeting.

Kat

[aykaie]

Originally Posted by cougermom

I think,like the Ramsey child,they have unidentified DNA and that is a big problem. I also don`t believe that Jason Young`s alibi can be broke.
Can you imagine what the mother and father of this child went through being called murders in every news outlet in the US and dealing with the death of this beautiful little girl? My heart breaks for them. I hope the Detective that called Patsy Ramsey a murder of her own child on national TV just to sell his book burns in hell for what he said and wrote.I wonder if the money he made off calling this mother a murderer is worth it. He will lose 10 x the amount he made off her pain. Sorry for the venting,I just hope Jason does not have to suffer the name calling as long as the Ramsey`s did. CM

And like what is being done to the Fisher family.

DNA testing has come a long way since JonBenet's murder. If her murder occured today, the Ramsey's would have been cleared immediately.

If foreign DNA was found in the Young home, the husband would have been cleared by now.

[cougermom]

Originally Posted by aykaie

And like what is being done to the Fisher family.

DNA testing has come a long way since JonBenet's murder. If her murder occured today, the Ramsey's would have been cleared immediately.

If foreign DNA was found in the Young home, the husband would have been cleared by now.

And how do you know he has not been cleared. The Sheriff of Wake County has not made any public statement of anyone being cleared.I don`t expect anymore statement's from him until an arrest is made.All his statements have been standard LE statements. We have not ruled anyone out,we are making progress,we will leave no stone unturned. I read these in EVERY murder investigation.Standard answers to public and media.
By the way,to clear up those Detectives from Wake County being in Brevard,duh............... they were investigating the murder of a girl from Brevard that was murdered and DUMPED in Wake County. Mystery solved....CM
ETA:
I doubt very much touch DNA has been necessary and is still rarely used. UNIDENTIFIED DNA is UNIDENTIFIED regardless of how it is obtained.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by cougermom

And how do you know he has not been cleared. The Sheriff of Wake County has not made any public statement of anyone being cleared.I don`t expect anymore statement's from him until an arrest is made.All his statements have been standard LE statements. We have not ruled anyone out,we are making progress,we will leave no stone unturned. I read these in EVERY murder investigation.Standard answers to public and media.
By the way,to clear up those Detectives from Wake County being in Brevard,duh............... they were investigating the murder of a girl from Brevard that was murdered and DUMPED in Wake County. Mystery solved....CM
ETA:
I doubt very much touch DNA has been necessary and is still rarely used. UNIDENTIFIED DNA is UNIDENTIFIED regardless of how it is obtained.

If foreign DNA or someone else's unidentifiable fingerprints were not found in the home, then why did L E need to take so many prints from friends and family?
Jason had already submitted his for comparision.

Kat

[cougermom]

I am totally convinced that LE has DNA they can not identify.I am for DNA being taken from anyone who is arrested. Most may not agree with me.
I was reading some where of DNA back up is so for backed up it took 6 years in one case to identify DNA that was in the data bank. There is NO excuse for it taking any where near that time. CM

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by cougermom

I am totally convinced that LE has DNA they can not identify.I am for DNA being taken from anyone who is arrested. Most may not agree with me.
I was reading some where of DNA back up is so for backed up it took 6 years in one case to identify DNA that was in the data bank. There is NO excuse for it taking any where near that time. CM

Hi Cougar...........and one of the search warrants specifically asked for a palm print...so someone's palm print must have been left behind...that did not match..

Kat

[RPD]

Well, well if it's not Cougie and Kat.

[cougermom]

Greta just reported that the body of a mother of two has just been found floating in a lake. Amanda Lamb was reporting. She was from Cary NC another murder in Wake county.......
I will look for link.....CM

[cougermom]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

Body found in Wake County


Posted: 51 minutes ago
Updated: 1 minute ago

Cary, N.C. — A body was found Monday evening in Wake County, and police said they were looking into the possibility that it was the body of a missing Cary woman.

At about 7:30 p.m., a man walking his dog reported seeing a person floating in a pond near Holly Springs Road and Fielding Drive.

That location is not far from where a mother of two reportedly went missing from.

Jessica Adams, a friend of Nancy Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a news conference Monday evening.

What the heck is going on in Wake County?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by cougermom

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

Body found in Wake County


Posted: 51 minutes ago
Updated: 1 minute ago

Cary, N.C. — A body was found Monday evening in Wake County, and police said they were looking into the possibility that it was the body of a missing Cary woman.

At about 7:30 p.m., a man walking his dog reported seeing a person floating in a pond near Holly Springs Road and Fielding Drive.

That location is not far from where a mother of two reportedly went missing from.

Jessica Adams, a friend of Nancy Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a news conference Monday evening.

What the heck is going on in Wake County?

Wow, I never knew NC was like this.
I thought Philly was bad.

Kat

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

Pay no attention.......you know how it is, no arrest has made some people restless.

It's only been what?, going on 21 months now?

Any day now...
Kat

It has been too long

[aykaie]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

We have no way of knowing if that is true, the sheriff said that was just one of many stories told to them..and there was no way at that time he stated that to verify it either way.

One of those things we have to wait and see how it plays out..

Kat

When did the the sheriff say that? I have been following this case from day one and never heard such a thing.

That statement was in one of the first warrants as well.

I am sure that LE confirmed the information as well. It would be easy enough to do.

[SaraSidle]

We had 2 female bodies wash up in different parts of Lake Michigan this week!

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by SaraSidle

It has been too long

I agree, and murder is messy and most cases are solved easily in a short time.

The latest cases in NC already have arrests.

It shouldn't be taking this long.

Kat

[cougermom]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

I agree, and murder is messy and most cases are solved easily in a short time.

The latest cases in NC already have arrests.

It shouldn't be taking this long.

Kat

Hi kat,now another murder in Wake County. How many unsolved murders this year,last year or year before? What is their problem?Is Wake county short of help? Sounds like they must be under staffed especially in the investigations Dept.
Any word on the GJ meeting today anyone?.....cm

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by cougermom

Hi kat,now another murder in Wake County. How many unsolved murders this year,last year or year before? What is their problem?Is Wake county short of help? Sounds like they must be under staffed especially in the investigations Dept.
Any word on the GJ meeting today anyone?.....cm

I have not heard a word, I see they found the body of the missing jogger..


Kat

[janesdean]

Originally Posted by cougermom

I think,like the Ramsey child,they have unidentified DNA and that is a big problem. I also don`t believe that Jason Young`s alibi can be broke.
Can you imagine what the mother and father of this child went through being called murders in every news outlet in the US and dealing with the death of this beautiful little girl? My heart breaks for them. I hope the Detective that called Patsy Ramsey a murder of her own child on national TV just to sell his book burns in hell for what he said and wrote.I wonder if the money he made off calling this mother a murderer is worth it. He will lose 10 x the amount he made off her pain. Sorry for the venting,I just hope Jason does not have to suffer the name calling as long as the Ramsey`s did. CM

Upthread, you say this:

07-13-2008, 08:54 PM
cougermom
Member Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 19


Quote:
Originally Posted by SaraSidle
I still think he is a POI but I would like to see more evidence. IMO

I agree and apparently the DA agrees also.CM

so I am wondering which opinion is actually Your opinion, thanks janesdean

[janesdean]

Originally Posted by im4justice

Are you purposely trying to mislead people? I have never seen a statement by the sheriff stating "that was just one of many stories told to him" The sheriff has never sadi such a thing That might be your opinion and if so mention it as such but please dont start with misleading comments on this board! I have no idea what you think there is to gain by making false statements

You really have to take what some (handful) of these posters dream up and post as merely their projection on things. I agree, the sheriff NEVER made that statement, what he did say was that Meredith was sent a voice mail from Jason asking her to go to the house and pick up a document from his printer. It was (in my opinion) a ruse, to have Meredith find her dead sisters' body and rescue his daughter Cassidy, who had been ALONE for hours with her dead mothers body. Again, a few posters from IS will rewrite history and argue endlessly about Jason Youngs innocence, yet they can't tell you why all the search warrants focus only on Jason Young and no one else. The sheriff in Wake Co. has pretty much been focused on Jason Young and still 21 months later, not one other person has been named on a SW's or in any media reports as being investigated.

[janesdean]

Respectfully snipped :

[quote=aykaie;9110028]When did the the sheriff say that?

He didn't, that poster is wrong, and also posts alot of incorrect statements. Some of these people from IS are fanatics about Jason Young, and constantly post BS about the victims family, as well as bash them. You will see these posters for their true colors quite soon, they are transparent

[cougermom]

Originally Posted by janesdean

Upthread, you say this:

07-13-2008, 08:54 PM
cougermom
Member Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 19


Quote:
Originally Posted by SaraSidle
I still think he is a POI but I would like to see more evidence. IMO

I agree and apparently the DA agrees also.CM

so I am wondering which opinion is actually Your opinion, thanks janesdean

Actually I almost went back and change the post to say I agree I need to see more evidence before considering Jason a POI. You know my feelings about Michelle`s murder,I do not think Jason Young murdered his wife.Maybe this will help.....CM

[cougermom]

Originally Posted by janesdean

You really have to take what some (handful) of these posters dream up and post as merely their projection on things. I agree, the sheriff NEVER made that statement, what he did say was that Meredith was sent a voice mail from Jason asking her to go to the house and pick up a document from his printer. It was (in my opinion) a ruse, to have Meredith find her dead sisters' body and rescue his daughter Cassidy, who had been ALONE for hours with her dead mothers body. Again, a few posters from IS will rewrite history and argue endlessly about Jason Youngs innocence, yet they can't tell you why all the search warrants focus only on Jason Young and no one else. The sheriff in Wake Co. has pretty much been focused on Jason Young and still 21 months later, not one other person has been named on a SW's or in any media reports as being investigated.

And.............this focus on Jason as you suggest could be the reason there has been NO arrest in this case............cm

[cougermom]

[quote=janesdean;9110308]Respectfully snipped :

Originally Posted by aykaie

When did the the sheriff say that?

He didn't, that poster is wrong, and also posts alot of incorrect statements. Some of these people from IS are fanatics about Jason Young, and constantly post BS about the victims family, as well as bash them. You will see these posters for their true colors quite soon, they are transparent

I think your color is already showing, slow over at scott`s huh????cm

[cougermom]

Great work and congratulation to these LE Investigators.

http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/3211278/
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[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by cougermom

And.............this focus on Jason as you suggest could be the reason there has been NO arrest in this case............cm

I don't understand how anyone can say that there was not any foreign DNA at the crime scene .

If there was not any foreigh DNA, then there would have been an arrest by now.

I guess the GJ came away empty on this case again this week.



Kat

[aykaie]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

I don't understand how anyone can say that there was not any foreign DNA at the crime scene .

If there was not any foreigh DNA, then there would have been an arrest by now.

I guess the GJ came away empty on this case again this week.



Kat

Why would the absence of foreign DNA lead to an arrest? That makes no sense at all.