Entwistle case

[judi25uk]

im quite astounded at this case particularly the apparent coldness of neil entwistle and also his parents who say he is innocent when there is such overwhelming evidence to say it was a planned murder. who types into a search engine 'how to kill with a knife' ?? days/weeks before their wife and baby are murdered. To me it seems like it was all plausible to him in theory, all planned out but yet when it came to doing it he suddenly has complete lack of explanations for any of his actions. Im saddened by this tragedy to what seems like such a loving family of Rachel and baby.

[Jayelles]

Originally Posted by judi25uk

im quite astounded at this case particularly the apparent coldness of neil entwistle and also his parents who say he is innocent when there is such overwhelming evidence to say it was a planned murder. who types into a search engine 'how to kill with a knife' ?? days/weeks before their wife and baby are murdered. To me it seems like it was all plausible to him in theory, all planned out but yet when it came to doing it he suddenly has complete lack of explanations for any of his actions. Im saddened by this tragedy to what seems like such a loving family of Rachel and baby.

You said it Judi. I too was amazed as his mother's proclamations of her son's innocence - especially as you say in the face of such overwhelming evidence. It was such a tragic and bizarre case. Surely if there was evidence that his wife killed the baby and then herself they would have brought in experts and produced that evidence and not just mention it in the summing up??

[judi25uk]

Originally Posted by Jayelles

You said it Judi. I too was amazed as his mother's proclamations of her son's innocence - especially as you say in the face of such overwhelming evidence. It was such a tragic and bizarre case. Surely if there was evidence that his wife killed the baby and then herself they would have brought in experts and produced that evidence and not just mention it in the summing up??

yeah! he seems so cold devoid of emotion. i dont know a massive great deal but do you know if entwistle claimed he found the bodies then covered them in blankets and then fled to england? i know there was evidence to suggest he had broken into his father in laws house to take the gun and then replace it. its just bizarre and the more i think about it the more questions i seem to have. The report about fathers murdering their families on CL is a really good article have you read it?

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by judi25uk

yeah! he seems so cold devoid of emotion. i dont know a massive great deal but do you know if entwistle claimed he found the bodies then covered them in blankets and then fled to england? i know there was evidence to suggest he had broken into his father in laws house to take the gun and then replace it. its just bizarre and the more i think about it the more questions i seem to have. The report about fathers murdering their families on CL is a really good article have you read it?

I have not read it Judi. I am just so sick of fathers doing that. And mothers. If it is from postpartumdepression on the mother's part I can see it but not just plain sane murder. it confounds me........IMO

[Jayelles]

Originally Posted by judi25uk

yeah! he seems so cold devoid of emotion. i dont know a massive great deal but do you know if entwistle claimed he found the bodies then covered them in blankets and then fled to england? i know there was evidence to suggest he had broken into his father in laws house to take the gun and then replace it. its just bizarre and the more i think about it the more questions i seem to have. The report about fathers murdering their families on CL is a really good article have you read it?

I didn't follow the trial in detail but kind of picked up the reports after he was found guilty. There was something about him returning the gun to the FIL's house and the baby's face was covered - they claimed he'd done that because he couldn't bear to look at her face whilst he murdered her.

There was something about there being gun residue (or some kind of evidence pertaining to the gun) on the wife's hand and that was what Entwhistle's mother was ranting about when she was claiming her son was "innocent". I always find it a bit irritating when someone says that a convicted or suspected murderer is "innocent" when that person wasn't there at the time of the murder. I think - well they are claiming something as fact that they cannot possibly know for certain so I don't trust this person! It's quite another thing if a person says something like "I absolutely believe 100% that so and so is innocent of this crime..."

Just a little bugbear of mine - it reminds me of used car salesman talk!

[Jayelles]

The formal legal arguments in the trial ended on June 23. After deliberating for nine hours over two days, on June 25, 2008, the jury found Entwistle guilty as to the charge of first degree murder. He was also found guilty of the illegal possession of a firearm and ammunition. He was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on June 26, 2008, the mandatory sentence for someone convicted of first degree murder in the state of Massachusetts. Judge Diane Kottmyer imposed two concurrent life sentences on the murder charges and ten years of probation on the firearms and ammunition charges to run concurrent with the life sentences, conditional that he never profit from the sale of his story. [5] Entwistle will be incarcerated at the Souza-Baranowski maximum security prison, although Judge Kottmyer originally said that he would serve his sentences at MCI-Cedar Junction. [6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Entwistle

Good Grief! Apparently, he had planned to sell his story to the highest bidder!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7439176.stm

[debbyuk2008]

I agree he is totally devoid of emotion. Initially I believed he intended to kill himself. However, the coward personality inside of him took over.
I remember there was a case in England quite a few years back. The jealous ex husband killed his ex wife, killed his baby daughter but decided at the last minute he was too nervous to kill himself.

Now I see him as an unsavory character, devoid of emotion, some kind of personality problem....could not cope with financial stress.