Ted Bundy.

[Drumbum]

What became of Carol and his daughter?

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by Drumbum

What became of Carol and his daughter?

I have no idea but I bet it was a name change IMO

[Drumbum]

Originally Posted by SaraSidle

I have no idea but I bet it was a name change IMO

I'd think so as well.

[Serial Killer X]

Originally Posted by SaraSidle

I have no idea but I bet it was a name change IMO

Yer Maybey But I Don't Think So But They Might Of Wanted To Get Away From The Press And Not Have Any Relation To Him.

SKX

[Serial Killer X]

Originally Posted by Joseph Bell

Hi If we could get in touch with Ann Rule I'd bet she'd know. She worked beside him and wrote about him.

Who Was Ann Rule? A Journalist? Is She Dead? How Long Did She Know Him?

SKX

[grneyes]

This is on Ann's website.

"I have deliberately avoided knowing anything about Ted's ex-wife and daughter's whereabouts because they deserve privacy. I don't want to know where they are; I never want to be caught off guard by some reporter's question about them. All I know is that Ted's daughter has grown up to be a fine young woman."

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by grneyes

This is on Ann's website.

Great post grneyes thank you.....

[grneyes]

Your welcome Sara. :-)

Ann has some more updates on other killers (that she has written about in her books) and their familes that are pretty interesting to read also.

http://annrules.com/news3.htm

[Drumbum]

Originally Posted by grneyes

This is on Ann's website.

Thanks.

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by grneyes

Your welcome Sara. :-)

Ann has some more updates on other killers (that she has written about in her books) and their familes that are pretty interesting to read also.

http://annrules.com/news3.htm

I will have to look for those. I have read her books before but nothing on updates.

[Serial Killer X]

Originally Posted by SaraSidle

Great post grneyes thank you.....

Lol Is That Sarcasim Sara?

SKX

[Serial Killer X]

Originally Posted by Joseph Bell

Hi. Ann Rule is alive and kicking and the author of many kick a.. true crime novels. She was a counselor with Bundy in Seattle I believe when he started murdering. She wrote "The Killer Beside Me" about Bundy.

Ok Mr Bell Thx For That.

SKX

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by Joseph Bell

Hi If we could get in touch with Ann Rule I'd bet she'd know. She worked beside him and wrote about him.

My oldest sister and one of her friends once met Ted Bundy, when he was in Idaho. Ted asked my sister's friend (who had long hair, etc. all of the characteristics of Ted's victims) on a date. He seemed o.k, and she said yes. She later said that she had the heebie jeebies for some reason, and insisted on being in public places, and that she would meet him at the mall. He tried and tried to get her to go for a ride in his car. She finally agreed, thinking she would be safe in the public parking lot. When they got in his car, his whole demeanor changed, and became closed off, and angry. She said that in the V.W bug that he was driving at the time (?) the passenger door was welded shut. He remained silent, and drove to some location. He stopped the car, said he had to get something from the trunk, and would be back. She took the chance, and went out of his door, and ran like hell to the nearest home, which was like a few blocks or so away, and called her parents. He chased her for a minute, but then seemed to be scared off by something. It bugged her why she was scared of him. Then a few months after that, the news started airing Ted Bundy as a murderer on the run. She was deffinitely one of the lucky ones. I remember listening to the radio, when they finally executed him. If I remember right, they left the fryer on, to make sure he was "done." I am glad they did.

[odette]

Thank you for sharing SV. That's scary!!.

The Gift of Fear - By GAVIN DE BECKER - Little, Brown and Company

Survival Signals That Protect Us From Violence

CHAPTER ONE: He had probably been watching her for a while. We aren't sure--but what we do know is that she was not his first victim. That afternoon, in an effort to get all her shopping done in one trip, Kelly had overestimated what she could comfortably carry home. Justifying her decision as she struggled with the heavy bags, she reminded herself that making two trips would have meant walking around after dark, and she was too careful about her safety for that. As she climbed the few steps to the apartment building door, she saw that it had been left unlatched (again). Her neighbors just don't get it, she thought, and though their lax security annoyed her, this time she was glad to be saved the trouble of getting out the key.

She closed the door behind her, pushing it until she heard it latch. She is certain she locked it, which means he must have already been inside the corridor. .......

• Continued
http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/b/becker-fear.html

[Drumbum]

There are photographs of Bundy at the morgue. I prefer to remember him that way.

[SaraSidle]

that gives me chills read it SV. thank goodness she is alive!!!IMO

[aldred]

The book by Ann Rule on Bundy is called "The Stranger Beside Me".

As far as I know, Ted never lived in Idaho. During the confessions he made just prior to january 24, 1989, he said that he'd travelled north from Salt Lake City at one time and snatched a girl off a playfield in Pocatello, Idaho; Lynette Culver, 13 (?), vanished during the Labor Day weekend of 1974.

If the passenger door of his VW was welded shut. How did the passenger get into the car? The story doesn't ring true afaiac -- urban legend.

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by aldred

The book by Ann Rule on Bundy is called "The Stranger Beside Me".

As far as I know, Ted never lived in Idaho. During the confessions he made just prior to january 24, 1989, he said that he'd travelled north from Salt Lake City at one time and snatched a girl off a playfield in Pocatello, Idaho; Lynette Culver, 13 (?), vanished during the Labor Day weekend of 1974.

If the passenger door of his VW was welded shut. How did the passenger get into the car? The story doesn't ring true afaiac -- urban legend.

I never said he lived there. He most certainly traveled through Idaho. I remember hearing from my sister and her friend about their story, as clear as day. I left the part out of the story that he wanted her to get into the front seat through his door, because I was afraid I was rambling on about the story!!!!! Sheesh!!!!! All she said about it, is that she thought it was his strange way of being a gentleman. Believe in what you want. I believe my sister and her friend, and always will.

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by Drumbum

There are photographs of Bundy at the morgue. I prefer to remember him that way.

I have never seem these photos. How can we access them? Are they gruesome?

[Karin]

Originally Posted by Super Volcano

I have never seem these photos. How can we access them? Are they gruesome?

I just googled his name plus execution photos.............gross huh?


http://images.google.com/images?q=te...num=1&ct=title

[grneyes]

Originally Posted by Karin

I just googled his name plus execution photos.............gross huh?


http://images.google.com/images?q=te...num=1&ct=title

Dang it Karin! You just had to post that link for me to see just as I'm getting ready to go to sleep. Now I'm going to have nightmares. *lol*

[Drumbum]

Originally Posted by grneyes

Dang it Karin! You just had to post that link for me to see just as I'm getting ready to go to sleep. Now I'm going to have nightmares. *lol*

Blame me, I planted the seed of curiosity.

[grneyes]

Originally Posted by Drumbum

Blame me, I planted the seed of curiosity.

You just knew I couldn't resist didn't you?

[Drumbum]

Originally Posted by grneyes

You just knew I couldn't resist didn't you?

Yepper, something about cats and curiosity.

[aldred]

Originally Posted by Super Volcano

I never said he lived there. He most certainly traveled through Idaho. I remember hearing from my sister and her friend about their story, as clear as day. I left the part out of the story that he wanted her to get into the front seat through his door, because I was afraid I was rambling on about the story!!!!! Sheesh!!!!! All she said about it, is that she thought it was his strange way of being a gentleman. Believe in what you want. I believe my sister and her friend, and always will.

I feel a little stupid to have attacked your story. I think you should try and press your sister for more details before they're lost in time. It should have been in the summer of 1975.

The distance between Salt Lake City and Pocatello is 262 miles.

[aldred]

...

The photos of the dead Ted aren't really gruesome. It looks like he's smiling but that is supposed to be an effect of the electricity. I happened to view some color crime scene pictures from the Chi Omega sorority house and I wish I hadn't -- not a pretty sight.

[Drumbum]

Originally Posted by Super Volcano

My oldest sister and one of her friends once met Ted Bundy, when he was in Idaho. Ted asked my sister's friend (who had long hair, etc. all of the characteristics of Ted's victims) on a date. He seemed o.k, and she said yes. She later said that she had the heebie jeebies for some reason, and insisted on being in public places, and that she would meet him at the mall. He tried and tried to get her to go for a ride in his car. She finally agreed, thinking she would be safe in the public parking lot. When they got in his car, his whole demeanor changed, and became closed off, and angry. She said that in the V.W bug that he was driving at the time (?) the passenger door was welded shut. He remained silent, and drove to some location. He stopped the car, said he had to get something from the trunk, and would be back. She took the chance, and went out of his door, and ran like hell to the nearest home, which was like a few blocks or so away, and called her parents. He chased her for a minute, but then seemed to be scared off by something. It bugged her why she was scared of him. Then a few months after that, the news started airing Ted Bundy as a murderer on the run. She was definitely one of the lucky ones. I remember listening to the radio, when they finally executed him. If I remember right, they left the fryer on, to make sure he was "done." I am glad they did.

I don't lend much credibility to Anne's book, sorry. I prefer The Only Living Witness. I have a couple of questions SV.

Did she report this incident?
Was the VW tan?

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by Drumbum

I don't lend much credibility to Anne's book, sorry. I prefer The Only Living Witness. I have a couple of questions SV.

Did she report this incident?
Was the VW tan?

I was only 10 years old when this happened. I have three brothers, and four sisters (the sister that had this experience is the oldest, and was 18 at the time.) I just remember the story, and being terrified of this monster on the loose. It didn't help that my mom borrowed a gun from the farmer down the street. Sure. My sister hasn't talked about this incident for years, and I think she still might be in touch with her friend Mindy, who this happened to. I don't know really anything about the V.W. bug, other than what was in their story. Did Bundy drive a V.W bug for sure? I purposely avoid reading his story, because of what happened here. I guess I should read it, to know my history a little better. After they aired his picture on the news saying they were looking for him, I had nightmares almost every night for a LONG time!!!! I simply was relating the story I heard, but I will try to find out what I can. What other questions should I ask? I think (if I remember right) that Mindy's parents took her that same night to the police station and made a report. I have no idea if anything came of it.

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by aldred

I feel a little stupid to have attacked your story. I think you should try and press your sister for more details before they're lost in time. It should have been in the summer of 1975.

The distance between Salt Lake City and Pocatello is 262 miles.

Like I told Drumbum ( scroll up) I was only 10 years old when this happened. At that age, my mind was alive, and full of "what ifs". I was scared out of my mind, after they were airing him on the news. My parents were paranoid (which didn't help me at ALL) and made us go everywhere with them. My mom would freak out if we were out of her sight in stores, etc. We went through this all over again (even though we were older) when Richard Ramirez was on the loose, even though we lived in a different state. Yea, it was right about that time. My sister hasn't talked about this for years, and I haven't seen her friend Mindy (the one that this happened to) forever. I know she is married, with a bunch of kids. I am not really sure what questions to ask, because I am not (I am now ashamed) really that familliar with the "Ted Bundy" story. I guess I should be. I just avoided it, because I was terrified of him as a kid.

[odette]

Fatal Addiction - Ted Bundy's Final Interview

[aldred]

Originally Posted by aldred

As far as I know, Ted never lived in Idaho. During the confessions he made just prior to january 24, 1989, he said that he'd travelled north from Salt Lake City at one time and snatched a girl off a playfield in Pocatello, Idaho; Lynette Culver, 13 (?), vanished during the Labor Day weekend of 1974.

I had a look at what Wikipedia had to say and found that Lynette Culver, 13 (!), didn't disappear in 1974, but in 1975, may 6th, to be exact.

Ted was stopped by police in august 1975, but I don't know when his picture got in the news. I guess it was rather close to the date of his arrest, though.


Wikipedia had a very good article about Ted. The feature story in the Crime Library is also good.

[Karin]

Originally Posted by odette

Fatal Addiction - Ted Bundy's Final Interview

That is interesting........Here is his final interview on youtube. See part 1,2,3,etc. if you have the time. He was executed the next morning. He sounded like an idiot blaming everything on pornography! I guess in the end he needed to blame someone or something for his atrosities!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki9FhawqTyc

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by Serial Killer X

Lol Is That Sarcasim Sara?

SKX

No it is not.

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by Drumbum

I don't lend much credibility to Anne's book, sorry. I prefer The Only Living Witness. I have a couple of questions SV.

Did she report this incident?
Was the VW tan?

You planted the seeds of curiosity in me, with these questions. I just read what I could about T.B, and he was a truly disgusting monster. I can see how soooo many women were decieved by his good looks. It is his eyes that freak me out!!!!! I just cannot believe that he was on the loose that long, doing his evil deeds. Just from the pictures that went along in the stories I read on this link, it looks like the V.W bug was either white, or a really light blue. I don't think my sister's friend ever said what color his car was. The thing that surprised me about the story, was at the end, with how much publicity his execution generated. I just remeber it being early in the morning, and listening to it on the radio with my dad, and my dad cheering when it was over.

[Drumbum]

Originally Posted by Karin

That is interesting........Here is his final interview on youtube. See part 1,2,3,etc. if you have the time. He was executed the next morning. He sounded like an idiot blaming everything on pornography! I guess in the end he needed to blame someone or something for his atrocities!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki9FhawqTyc

Yepper, telling Dr. Dobson that the Devil made him do it more or less. You know, I don't think he knew why he did those things but there was a part of him that realized he'd never stop and death was the only solution. He asked a friend once which states carried the death penalty and Florida was one of the states mentioned.

[Ice]

Originally Posted by Super Volcano

Like I told Drumbum ( scroll up) I was only 10 years old when this happened. At that age, my mind was alive, and full of "what ifs". I was scared out of my mind, after they were airing him on the news. My parents were paranoid (which didn't help me at ALL) and made us go everywhere with them. My mom would freak out if we were out of her sight in stores, etc. We went through this all over again (even though we were older) when Richard Ramirez was on the loose, even though we lived in a different state. Yea, it was right about that time. My sister hasn't talked about this for years, and I haven't seen her friend Mindy (the one that this happened to) forever. I know she is married, with a bunch of kids. I am not really sure what questions to ask, because I am not (I am now ashamed) really that familliar with the "Ted Bundy" story. I guess I should be. I just avoided it, because I was terrified of him as a kid.

Wow! Cool story you got there! Your brush with infamy. Glad your sister lived to tell the tale. Thanks for telling it to us. That had to make everyone in your family a little freaked out once they realized who had gotten next to your sister.

I just have a quick question. Since Ted was married to Carol when she gave birth, that would make the daughter his legally. How are we sure that she is really Ted's biological daughter?

Anyone?

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by Ice

Wow! Cool story you got there! Your brush with infamy. Glad your sister lived to tell the tale. Thanks for telling it to us. That had to make everyone in your family a little freaked out once they realized who had gotten next to your sister.

I just have a quick question. Since Ted was married to Carol when she gave birth, that would make the daughter his legally. How are we sure that she is really Ted's biological daughter?

Anyone?

After posting (above message) I went on this Trutv website, and read all I could on Ted Bundy. I also went and googled his death photos. It hardly doesn't look like him, because his head was shaved, and he looked almost like a wax figurine. It is WIERD, that this coming January (or Feb?) will be 20 years since Bundy had his date with "Old Sparky." Oh yea. I am not sure at all if that girl was Ted's or not. Smart of the mother to change her surname to protect her.

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by Super Volcano

After posting (above message) I went on this Trutv website, and read all I could on Ted Bundy. I also went and googled his death photos. It hardly doesn't look like him, because his head was shaved, and he looked almost like a wax figurine. It is WIERD, that this coming January (or Feb?) will be 20 years since Bundy had his date with "Old Sparky." Oh yea. I am not sure at all if that girl was Ted's or not. Smart of the mother to change her surname to protect her.

It would be also interesting to know how much the daughter DOES know about who her real father is, if she knows him from Ted bundy, or Al Bundy.

[Ice]

Originally Posted by Super Volcano

It would be also interesting to know how much the daughter DOES know about who her real father is, if she knows him from Ted bundy, or Al Bundy.

She'd have to know that her mother was married to Ted and she must know alot of people are referring to her as Ted's daughter, unless she's been living under a rock for the past 25 years.
I'm not real sure I'd want to know if I were her. I'm glad her mother had enough good sense to protect her. Something must have finally gone right in Carol's head.

I still doubt she is Ted's biological child. I think people want to believe she is, why though, I can't imagine.

[Super Volcano]

Originally Posted by Ice

She'd have to know that her mother was married to Ted and she must know alot of people are referring to her as Ted's daughter, unless she's been living under a rock for the past 25 years.
I'm not real sure I'd want to know if I were her. I'm glad her mother had enough good sense to protect her. Something must have finally gone right in Carol's head.

I still doubt she is Ted's biological child. I think people want to believe she is, why though, I can't imagine.

I am with you. I HOPE she isn't Ted's offspring. Yet, it makes sense that she would know that one of the most infamous serial killers is her father. Disgusting as it may be to digest for the daughter. I don't want to believe that she is his daughter, I just have never heard otherwise.