Follow the Money all the way to Vegas

[weezer]

Looks like orenthal just can't keep his memorabilia down!

02/10/97 - 09:00 AM ET - Click reload often for latest version
Simpson seeks cash in memorabilia
SANTA MONICA, Calif. - Dumped by Hertz and NBC, O.J. Simpson had to look elsewhere, anywhere, for money, and the journey for dollars led him to the oddest places - like a cemetery.

Among the 19 contracts Simpson signed after the killings of his ex-wife and her friend was a $1 million deal for post-verdict pictures of himself, including $100,000 for "The Cemetery Photographs," presumably taken at his ex-wife's grave.

The search didn't end there, according to documents filed with the court by the plaintiffs in his civil trial.

There was, for instance, the deal for O.J. Simpson birthday cards that came with an audio greeting from Simpson himself.

He also inked deals to sign thousands of trading cards, pre-paid calling cards and football helmets, both full-sized and miniature, and lent his name or image to such things as statues, gold medallions and a limited edition set of color lithographs.

And all this was in addition to his much-publicized deals to co-write the jailhouse tome "I Want to Tell You" and to star in his own video, "O.J. Simpson: The Interview."

Some money-making opportunities have yet to be finalized. A witness at Simpson's civil trial said Simpson was trying to sell the suit he wore the day he was acquitted of murder charges.

Simpson also has applied for trademarks for scores of goods yet to be produced, including, of all things, cutlery.

In total, plaintiffs estimated, Simpson already has made nearly $3 million off the publicity linked to charges he slashed to death his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman on June 12, 1994.

Simpson's post-murder earning potential is among the issues the jurors in his wrongful death trial have to consider when they return Monday to decide punitive damages. The panel already has levied $8.5 million against Simpson in compensatory damages.

The plaintiffs argue that Simpson possesses an infamous asset in the form of his name, worth nearly $25 million, and that he can count on reaping $2 million to $3 million a year, primarily by signing his name to cards and memorabilia.

Simpson's people say his signature isn't worth the ink it's printed in, and that he stands to make next to nothing because of the stigma from the two trials.

Still, Simpson's chief money-man, Leroy "Skip" Taft, has been busy since the murders trying to turn a buck, sometimes at the expense of good taste.

Here are some of the deals Simpson entered into after the killings, although it's uncertain how much of the promised money he has actually received, according to a report by a plaintiff's expert:

- Post-verdict photos. A $1 million deal with Polaris and American Media on Nov. 19, 1995, called for $200,000 for "The First Day Photographs," $350,000 for "The Family Photographs," $350,000 for "The Vacation Photographs" and $100,000 for "The Cemetery Photographs."

The first-day and family pictures turned up in the Star tabloid. The others, including the cemetery pictures, apparently were never taken or sold.

Book. Polaris, through the services of author Lawrence Schiller, agreed in November 1994 to write Simpson's book. Simpson got a $1 million advance and was promised 15% royalties for the hardcover and 10% paperback royalties. He also was to get bonuses if the book made The New York Times best-seller list.
Birthday cards. A one-year contract signed March 27, 1995, while Simpson was still in jail, called for "facsimile birthday cards that contained an audiotape greeting from Mr. Simpson." For this Simpson would get a $15,000 license fee, an advance of $17,500 and 15% royalties on the first $50,000 sold.
Medallions. About a year after the murders, Simpson entered into a one-year contract with Laurence Network Corp. to lend his name and likeness to 250,000 silver medallions and 25,000 gold medallions. He would get a $20,000 advance, plus a 20% royalty on the medallions.
Lithographs. In an August 1995 deal with J & E Enterprises, Simpson put his name on 2,000 limited edition lithograph prints from an original color drawing. He was promised a 25% royalty on the prints, which sold for $325 to $425 each, and got to keep the original.
Autographs. Simpson entered into eight contracts to sign trading cards, memorabilia and little cards that were attached to such items as jerseys and helmets.
By The Associated Press

[tv]

None of this surprises me even the proposed cemetery photos. Whether they were taken or not, just the fact that he would agree to do it is in extremely poor taste. Wonder if there's anything he wouldn't do to make a buck?

[weezer]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

None of this surprises me even the proposed cemetery photos. Whether they were taken or not, just the fact that he would agree to do it is in extremely poor taste. Wonder if there's anything he wouldn't do to make a buck?

I think he's pretty much proven that there is no bottom for him.

Hey, I think it would be cool to see what we can find on tracking some of the stuff orenthal claims was his in the hotel room in Vegas.

You see where the article quotes someone as saying orenthal was trying to sell the suit from the criminal trial?

[weezer]

okay --- I'm looking for anything that lists what orenthal was supposed to turn over, what was in the Vegas hotel room, etc.

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

okay --- I'm looking for anything that lists what orenthal was supposed to turn over, what was in the Vegas hotel room, etc.

I'm looking too. It's hard to find anything except the same old story of how Simpson and his gang of thugs burst into the hotel room and threatened everyone.

[tv]

So far all I've seen is the Rolex and football memorbilia. Nothing specific.

[weezer]

wonder what happened to all the stuff orenthal signed while he was in jail?

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

wonder what happened to all the stuff orenthal signed while he was in jail?

I'm guessing it all got sold during and after the trial. Talk about blood money, geez.

[weezer]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Sports/pop...=4&start=false

[weezer]

O.J. Hands Over Rolodex, Royalties To Goldmans
SLIDESHOW: O.J.'s Road To Infamy
RELATED STORIES: O.J. Simpson
POLL: Should O.J. Have To Give His Assets To Fred Goldman?
LOS ANGELES (CBS) ― O.J. Simpson was minus one Rolex watch -- real or otherwise -- Tuesday after a judge ordered him to hand it and other assets over to the father of slaying victim Ron Goldman.

Superior Court Judge Gerald Rosenberg also ordered the former football star to turn over any future royalties from a videogame in which he appears and any of the disputed memorabilia he can prove is his that Las Vegas police seized when they arrested him last month on robbery, kidnapping and other charges.

"When you take the watch and you take the sports memorabilia, it's a drive toward monetary justice," said attorney David Cook, who represents Goldman's father, Fred Goldman. "This drive will continue because, unfortunately, monetary justice is the only justice we have available to us."

Cook confirmed the watch was turned over by Simpson attorney Ronald Slates.

In an interview, Slates questioned whether it was a real Rolex.

"Know any Rolex watches that sell for 125 bucks?" Slates sked, adding that's what Simpson told him he paid for the timepiece. The lawyer acknowledged that if it is fake, however, "it's a pretty good copy."

Rosenberg's order specifies a "Submariner Rolex Watch" that was identified in a photograph.

Cook, who said he saw Simpson wearing the watch in a photo posted on the celebrity web site TMZ.com, estimated its value at $5,000 to $22,000 if it's real.

"Then there's always what we call the celebrity value," he said, adding the fact Simpson wore it could make it worth still more.

Attorneys for both sides agreed Simpson isn't in a position to hand over the sports memorabilia he said was stolen from him and that he had gone to retrieve when he and five other men allegedly burst into a Las Vegas hotel room last month and carried it away. The five are charged with multiple counts of kidnapping, robbery, assault, burglary and conspiracy.

According to a police evidence report attached to Tuesday's court order, the items include a Giorgio Armani necktie, a baseball cap, numerous signed footballs from NFL games Simpson played in and autographed photos of Simpson in his football uniform.

Cook said that if the items were ever returned to Simpson he plans to take it.

The memorabilia, like the watch, would then be handed over to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, which would auction it and give the money to Fred Goldman.

Simpson was acquitted in a criminal trial of the 1994 murders of Ron Goldman and Simpson's ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson. After their families sued him for wrongful death, a civil court jury found him liable for the killings and ordered that he pay $33.5 million.

Although most of that award remains unpaid, Fred Goldman has begun to have some luck in seizing some of the Pro Football Hall of Famer's assets.

In addition to the watch, memorabilia and video game royalties, he recently won the rights to the book "If I Did It," a ghostwritten account in which Simpson tells how he might have killed his ex-wife and Ron Goldman. The book is currently on The New York Times nonfiction best-seller list.

"If justice is served in books, footballs, jerseys and ties, then that's the hand we were dealt and that's the hand we'll play," Cook said.

(© 2007 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

[weezer]

Friday, October 29, 2004
OJ Simpson's Sports Memorabilia Income Scrutinized

OJ Simpson's attorney was on Fox News the other night being interviewed about Simpson not reporting income from autograph signings. Rumour has it that there is over $1 million dollars in autograph fees that OJ has not reported.

Alfred Beardsley is in the news because he recently planned and cancelled an autograph show that was supposed to be at Frank & Sons in the City of Industry, CA. Mercury News reports that Beardsley may have some control over some of Simpson's property.

According to OJ's attorney, anything OJ makes in the state of Florida is non-attachable.

[weezer]

Simpson Banned From Strip Hotels
MGM, Harrah's, Palms, Mirage Ask Juice To Go Elsewhere

POSTED: 7:05 pm EST November 5, 2007
UPDATED: 8:04 pm EST November 5, 2007


LAS VEGAS -- O.J. Simpson may have a hard time finding a place to stay in Las Vegas this week. It appears Simpson has worn out his welcome at several hotels.

The Review-Journal reported that the MGM, Mirage, Harrah's and the Palms prefer that Simpson go elsewhere.

Before Simpson was arrested in connection with the sports memorabilia grab at Palace Station, he was staying at the Palms.

Simpson is expected back in Las Vegas Thursday for a pretrial hearing. He, Charles Ehrlich and Clarence Stewart are facing more than 10 felony charges, including coercion, kidnapping and armed robbery.

Three other co-defendants -- Walter Alexander, Charles Cashmore and Michael McClinton -- have accepted plea deals and will testify against Simpson, Ehrlich and Stewart.

[tv]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

O.J. Hands Over Rolodex, Royalties To Goldmans
SLIDESHOW: O.J.'s Road To Infamy
RELATED STORIES: O.J. Simpson
POLL: Should O.J. Have To Give His Assets To Fred Goldman?
LOS ANGELES (CBS) ― O.J. Simpson was minus one Rolex watch -- real or otherwise -- Tuesday after a judge ordered him to hand it and other assets over to the father of slaying victim Ron Goldman.

Superior Court Judge Gerald Rosenberg also ordered the former football star to turn over any future royalties from a videogame in which he appears and any of the disputed memorabilia he can prove is his that Las Vegas police seized when they arrested him last month on robbery, kidnapping and other charges.

"When you take the watch and you take the sports memorabilia, it's a drive toward monetary justice," said attorney David Cook, who represents Goldman's father, Fred Goldman. "This drive will continue because, unfortunately, monetary justice is the only justice we have available to us."

Cook confirmed the watch was turned over by Simpson attorney Ronald Slates.

In an interview, Slates questioned whether it was a real Rolex.

"Know any Rolex watches that sell for 125 bucks?" Slates sked, adding that's what Simpson told him he paid for the timepiece. The lawyer acknowledged that if it is fake, however, "it's a pretty good copy."

Rosenberg's order specifies a "Submariner Rolex Watch" that was identified in a photograph.

Cook, who said he saw Simpson wearing the watch in a photo posted on the celebrity web site TMZ.com, estimated its value at $5,000 to $22,000 if it's real.

"Then there's always what we call the celebrity value," he said, adding the fact Simpson wore it could make it worth still more.

Attorneys for both sides agreed Simpson isn't in a position to hand over the sports memorabilia he said was stolen from him and that he had gone to retrieve when he and five other men allegedly burst into a Las Vegas hotel room last month and carried it away. The five are charged with multiple counts of kidnapping, robbery, assault, burglary and conspiracy.

According to a police evidence report attached to Tuesday's court order, the items include a Giorgio Armani necktie, a baseball cap, numerous signed footballs from NFL games Simpson played in and autographed photos of Simpson in his football uniform.

Cook said that if the items were ever returned to Simpson he plans to take it.

The memorabilia, like the watch, would then be handed over to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, which would auction it and give the money to Fred Goldman.

Simpson was acquitted in a criminal trial of the 1994 murders of Ron Goldman and Simpson's ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson. After their families sued him for wrongful death, a civil court jury found him liable for the killings and ordered that he pay $33.5 million.

Although most of that award remains unpaid, Fred Goldman has begun to have some luck in seizing some of the Pro Football Hall of Famer's assets.

In addition to the watch, memorabilia and video game royalties, he recently won the rights to the book "If I Did It," a ghostwritten account in which Simpson tells how he might have killed his ex-wife and Ron Goldman. The book is currently on The New York Times nonfiction best-seller list.

"If justice is served in books, footballs, jerseys and ties, then that's the hand we were dealt and that's the hand we'll play," Cook said.

(© 2007 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

Good job, weezer. Did they ever determine if the Rolex was a fake? I've read different accounts of that. Simpson must spend most of his time scheming to make money and figure out how to hide it from Fred Goldman. I have no doubt he's made a lot of money that Mr. Goldman will never see or know about. I still think the loss of the book rights was part of the reason he decided to go after what he called his "s**t. IMO, it was like the night he knew it was over with Paula and Nicole both and he flipped out.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

Looks like orenthal just can't keep his memorabilia down!

02/10/97 - 09:00 AM ET - Click reload often for latest version
Simpson seeks cash in memorabilia
SANTA MONICA, Calif. - Dumped by Hertz and NBC, O.J. Simpson had to look elsewhere, anywhere, for money, and the journey for dollars led him to the oddest places - like a cemetery.

Among the 19 contracts Simpson signed after the killings of his ex-wife and her friend was a $1 million deal for post-verdict pictures of himself, including $100,000 for "The Cemetery Photographs," presumably taken at his ex-wife's grave.

The search didn't end there, according to documents filed with the court by the plaintiffs in his civil trial.

There was, for instance, the deal for O.J. Simpson birthday cards that came with an audio greeting from Simpson himself.

He also inked deals to sign thousands of trading cards, pre-paid calling cards and football helmets, both full-sized and miniature, and lent his name or image to such things as statues, gold medallions and a limited edition set of color lithographs.

And all this was in addition to his much-publicized deals to co-write the jailhouse tome "I Want to Tell You" and to star in his own video, "O.J. Simpson: The Interview."

Some money-making opportunities have yet to be finalized. A witness at Simpson's civil trial said Simpson was trying to sell the suit he wore the day he was acquitted of murder charges.

Simpson also has applied for trademarks for scores of goods yet to be produced, including, of all things, cutlery.

In total, plaintiffs estimated, Simpson already has made nearly $3 million off the publicity linked to charges he slashed to death his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman on June 12, 1994.

Simpson's post-murder earning potential is among the issues the jurors in his wrongful death trial have to consider when they return Monday to decide punitive damages. The panel already has levied $8.5 million against Simpson in compensatory damages.

The plaintiffs argue that Simpson possesses an infamous asset in the form of his name, worth nearly $25 million, and that he can count on reaping $2 million to $3 million a year, primarily by signing his name to cards and memorabilia.

Simpson's people say his signature isn't worth the ink it's printed in, and that he stands to make next to nothing because of the stigma from the two trials.

Still, Simpson's chief money-man, Leroy "Skip" Taft, has been busy since the murders trying to turn a buck, sometimes at the expense of good taste.

Here are some of the deals Simpson entered into after the killings, although it's uncertain how much of the promised money he has actually received, according to a report by a plaintiff's expert:

- Post-verdict photos. A $1 million deal with Polaris and American Media on Nov. 19, 1995, called for $200,000 for "The First Day Photographs," $350,000 for "The Family Photographs," $350,000 for "The Vacation Photographs" and $100,000 for "The Cemetery Photographs."

The first-day and family pictures turned up in the Star tabloid. The others, including the cemetery pictures, apparently were never taken or sold.

Book. Polaris, through the services of author Lawrence Schiller, agreed in November 1994 to write Simpson's book. Simpson got a $1 million advance and was promised 15% royalties for the hardcover and 10% paperback royalties. He also was to get bonuses if the book made The New York Times best-seller list.
Birthday cards. A one-year contract signed March 27, 1995, while Simpson was still in jail, called for "facsimile birthday cards that contained an audiotape greeting from Mr. Simpson." For this Simpson would get a $15,000 license fee, an advance of $17,500 and 15% royalties on the first $50,000 sold.
Medallions. About a year after the murders, Simpson entered into a one-year contract with Laurence Network Corp. to lend his name and likeness to 250,000 silver medallions and 25,000 gold medallions. He would get a $20,000 advance, plus a 20% royalty on the medallions.
Lithographs. In an August 1995 deal with J & E Enterprises, Simpson put his name on 2,000 limited edition lithograph prints from an original color drawing. He was promised a 25% royalty on the prints, which sold for $325 to $425 each, and got to keep the original.
Autographs. Simpson entered into eight contracts to sign trading cards, memorabilia and little cards that were attached to such items as jerseys and helmets.
By The Associated Press

Thats pretty good money.

If memory serves me correctly some members of Nicoles family sold some pictures of her also. imo

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

Good job, weezer. Did they ever determine if the Rolex was a fake? I've read different accounts of that. Simpson must spend most of his time scheming to make money and figure out how to hide it from Fred Goldman. I have no doubt he's made a lot of money that Mr. Goldman will never see or know about. I still think the loss of the book rights was part of the reason he decided to go after what he called his "s**t. IMO, it was like the night he knew it was over with Paula and Nicole both and he flipped out.

The judge returned the watch to oj.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

Friday, October 29, 2004
OJ Simpson's Sports Memorabilia Income Scrutinized

OJ Simpson's attorney was on Fox News the other night being interviewed about Simpson not reporting income from autograph signings. Rumour has it that there is over $1 million dollars in autograph fees that OJ has not reported.

Alfred Beardsley is in the news because he recently planned and cancelled an autograph show that was supposed to be at Frank & Sons in the City of Industry, CA. Mercury News reports that Beardsley may have some control over some of Simpson's property.

According to OJ's attorney, anything OJ makes in the state of Florida is non-attachable.

Wonder who is responsible for the rumor?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

Good job, weezer. Did they ever determine if the Rolex was a fake? I've read different accounts of that. Simpson must spend most of his time scheming to make money and figure out how to hide it from Fred Goldman. I have no doubt he's made a lot of money that Mr. Goldman will never see or know about. I still think the loss of the book rights was part of the reason he decided to go after what he called his "s**t. IMO, it was like the night he knew it was over with Paula and Nicole both and he flipped out.

How much money did fred make from that book?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

Simpson Banned From Strip Hotels
MGM, Harrah's, Palms, Mirage Ask Juice To Go Elsewhere

POSTED: 7:05 pm EST November 5, 2007
UPDATED: 8:04 pm EST November 5, 2007


LAS VEGAS -- O.J. Simpson may have a hard time finding a place to stay in Las Vegas this week. It appears Simpson has worn out his welcome at several hotels.

The Review-Journal reported that the MGM, Mirage, Harrah's and the Palms prefer that Simpson go elsewhere.

Before Simpson was arrested in connection with the sports memorabilia grab at Palace Station, he was staying at the Palms.

Simpson is expected back in Las Vegas Thursday for a pretrial hearing. He, Charles Ehrlich and Clarence Stewart are facing more than 10 felony charges, including coercion, kidnapping and armed robbery.

Three other co-defendants -- Walter Alexander, Charles Cashmore and Michael McClinton -- have accepted plea deals and will testify against Simpson, Ehrlich and Stewart.

There must be 200 or more nice hotels in vagas.

[tv]

Originally Posted by martin II

How much money did fred make from that book?

No idea, but it's not about the money, it's about making OJ Simspon suffer.

[tv]

Originally Posted by martin II

The judge returned the watch to oj.

Thanks, martin. I wonder where he was keeping the real one?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

No idea, but it's not about the money, it's about making OJ Simspon suffer.

Fighting in court to get the rights, Hiring a publisher and going on tv to promote the sale of the book looks like an attempt to make money to me.Otherwise he could have just burned the rights to the book and it would have all been over.NAW. It is about money. imo

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

Thanks, martin. I wonder where he was keeping the real one?

now you know oj cannot afford a real rolex watch.

[William Anthony]

Whatever happened to what's done in Vegas stays in Vegas?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Whatever happened to what's done in Vegas stays in Vegas?

I wondered the same but looks like there may be a lot of old stale news laying around in vagas.imo

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by martin II

I wondered the same but looks like there may be a lot of old stale news laying around in vagas.imo

Is the title of this thread Simpson catches the thieves in Vegas?

[tv]

Originally Posted by martin II

now you know oj cannot afford a real rolex watch.

He could if he used the money in his off-shore accounts you said he has.

[tv]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Is the title of this thread Simpson catches the thieves in Vegas?

William, if you look at the top of the thread you'll see the name of the thread is Follow the Money all the way to Vegas.

[tv]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Whatever happened to what's done in Vegas stays in Vegas?

Pssst....that's a myth.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

William, if you look at the top of the thread you'll see the name of the thread is Follow the Money all the way to Vegas.

Maybe we should rename it.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

Pssst....that's a myth.

I see.

[tv]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Maybe we should rename it.

I believe only the original thread starter can do that. Why don't you ask her? I'm sure she'll love the idea.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

I believe only the original thread starter can do that. Why don't you ask her? I'm sure she'll love the idea.

As they say around the card tables in Vegas, I'll stay.

[tv]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

Is the title of this thread Simpson catches the thieves in Vegas?

I see you've already made up your mind that Simpson is not guilty. Interesting.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

I see you've already made up your mind that Simpson is not guilty. Interesting.

I think I told you that I adhere to the presumption of innocence.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

He could if he used the money in his off-shore accounts you said he has.

psssst------- that is a secrete.
you see anything wrong with a man owning two watches?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

I believe only the original thread starter can do that. Why don't you ask her? I'm sure she'll love the idea.

If anything in the first post is accurate maby it should be something like "follow the money into oj simpsons pocket."

[tv]

Originally Posted by martin II

psssst------- that is a secrete.
you see anything wrong with a man owning two watches?

No, but I see something wrong with being ordered by a judge to turn over an expensive watch and sending a cheap one in it's place.

[tv]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I think I told you that I adhere to the presumption of innocence.

Then you should withhold judgement on whether or not the memorabilia dealers are thieves. Don't they also deserve the presumption of innocence?

[William Anthony]

Correction-Is the title of this thread Simpson catches the alleged thieves in Vegas?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

No, but I see something wrong with being ordered by a judge to turn over an expensive watch and sending a cheap one in it's place.

prove thats what happened.