Local Scoop. . . Dardanelle Shooting

[FDInLaw]

Violence erupts at Dardanelle armory party
Story date: Feb. 17, 2008

Man hospitalized in serious condition following shooting; Yell Co. sheriff says altercation appears to have led to violence witnesses describe as “crossfire”
By Mary Kincy Benefield
Reporter
DARDANELLE — A 19-year-old man is in serious condition at a Little Rock hospital after an apparent altercation at a party attended by Arkansas Tech University students resulted in a shooting early Saturday morning outside the Morris R. Moore Arkansas National Guard Armory near Dardanelle, authorities said.
Yell County Sheriff Bill Gilkey said in a press conference held late Saturday afternoon despite having conducted interviews with “several” witnesses since the incident, which he said occurred about 2 a.m., no one had yet been arrested in connection with the shooting.
“We feel like at this time we’re close to identifying a possible suspect or suspects,” he said, adding, “We believe there’s going to be multiple gunmen involved in this.”
He said investigators do not believe the shooting was racially motivated, nor do they suspect any of the victims “were shooters during the incident.”
In addition to the man hospitalized in Little Rock — who Gilkey said was shot in the back — two others, including a 19-year-old male who sustained a gunshot wound to the wrist and a 19-year-old female who suffered from shock, were treated and released at area hospitals.
Investigators recovered 24 spent 9 mm rounds from the grounds at the armory, Gilkey said.
Gilkey declined to comment on who organized the party, which he said was heavily attended by an estimated 500 individuals between the ages of 18-25, including both ATU students and “other attendees from across the state of Arkansas.”

(see link for complete article)

http://www.couriernews.com/story.php?ID=17695

Anyone hear more about this?

[optimumprimal78]

Originally Posted by FDInLaw

Violence erupts at Dardanelle armory party
Story date: Feb. 17, 2008

Man hospitalized in serious condition following shooting; Yell Co. sheriff says altercation appears to have led to violence witnesses describe as “crossfire”
By Mary Kincy Benefield
Reporter
DARDANELLE — A 19-year-old man is in serious condition at a Little Rock hospital after an apparent altercation at a party attended by Arkansas Tech University students resulted in a shooting early Saturday morning outside the Morris R. Moore Arkansas National Guard Armory near Dardanelle, authorities said.
Yell County Sheriff Bill Gilkey said in a press conference held late Saturday afternoon despite having conducted interviews with “several” witnesses since the incident, which he said occurred about 2 a.m., no one had yet been arrested in connection with the shooting.
“We feel like at this time we’re close to identifying a possible suspect or suspects,” he said, adding, “We believe there’s going to be multiple gunmen involved in this.”
He said investigators do not believe the shooting was racially motivated, nor do they suspect any of the victims “were shooters during the incident.”
In addition to the man hospitalized in Little Rock — who Gilkey said was shot in the back — two others, including a 19-year-old male who sustained a gunshot wound to the wrist and a 19-year-old female who suffered from shock, were treated and released at area hospitals.
Investigators recovered 24 spent 9 mm rounds from the grounds at the armory, Gilkey said.
Gilkey declined to comment on who organized the party, which he said was heavily attended by an estimated 500 individuals between the ages of 18-25, including both ATU students and “other attendees from across the state of Arkansas.”

(see link for complete article)

http://www.couriernews.com/story.php?ID=17695

Anyone hear more about this?

I just heard a little about it. I thought that there was another fight/shooting at Dardanelle awhile back that was at the armory. Does any one know?

It wouldn't surprise me to hear if KJ and/or company were at said party either.

[lorettalockhorn]

All that I've heard about the Saturday shooting is that two ATU football players were hosting the party and there were about 500 Tech and high school students in attendance.

The reports about LE and EMS weren't flattering at all; making it sound like the melee couldn't (or wasn't attempted to) be contained. The armory wasn't shut down for a search, and EMS had trouble loading the patients and leaving the scene.

[CSOKC]

Originally Posted by FDInLaw

Violence erupts at Dardanelle armory party
Story date: Feb. 17, 2008

Man hospitalized in serious condition following shooting; Yell Co. sheriff says altercation appears to have led to violence witnesses describe as “crossfire”
By Mary Kincy Benefield
Reporter
DARDANELLE — A 19-year-old man is in serious condition at a Little Rock hospital after an apparent altercation at a party attended by Arkansas Tech University students resulted in a shooting early Saturday morning outside the Morris R. Moore Arkansas National Guard Armory near Dardanelle, authorities said.
Yell County Sheriff Bill Gilkey said in a press conference held late Saturday afternoon despite having conducted interviews with “several” witnesses since the incident, which he said occurred about 2 a.m., no one had yet been arrested in connection with the shooting.
“We feel like at this time we’re close to identifying a possible suspect or suspects,” he said, adding, “We believe there’s going to be multiple gunmen involved in this.”
He said investigators do not believe the shooting was racially motivated, nor do they suspect any of the victims “were shooters during the incident.”
In addition to the man hospitalized in Little Rock — who Gilkey said was shot in the back — two others, including a 19-year-old male who sustained a gunshot wound to the wrist and a 19-year-old female who suffered from shock, were treated and released at area hospitals.
Investigators recovered 24 spent 9 mm rounds from the grounds at the armory, Gilkey said.
Gilkey declined to comment on who organized the party, which he said was heavily attended by an estimated 500 individuals between the ages of 18-25, including both ATU students and “other attendees from across the state of Arkansas.”

(see link for complete article)

http://www.couriernews.com/story.php?ID=17695

Anyone hear more about this?

I haven't heard anything about this but I'm going to ask around and see what I can find out.

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=60832

http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/?cid=65771

[FDInLaw]

Can y'all believe this? . . . just heard that a rumor has been going around town that Kevin was shot at this party! Small towns, ya just got to love them!





(I assume this is just a rumor. . . right?)

[lorettalockhorn]

According to today's Courier, the two shooting victims are Brandon Wade and Jody Beard. Wade is still listed in serious condition in a LR hospital.

[lorettalockhorn]

Today's article:

http://couriernews.com/story.php?ID=17719

[FDInLaw]

Judge denies motion to dismiss rape case
Story date: Feb. 21, 2008

Court finds defendant must be “specifically charged” in order to assert right to speedy trial
By Mary Kincy Benefield
Reporter
A judge Friday denied a motion to dismiss filed by attorneys on behalf of a man charged with rape in connection with an Oct. 20, 1998, incident in which police discovered a then 20-year-old woman in bloody, mangled clothes walking south on State Highway 7 in Russellville.
Police later determined the woman had apparently been struck twice on the head and allegedly raped by an unknown assailant.
In denying the motion, 5th Judicial District Judge Dennis C. Sutterfield ruled time elapsed between the October 2004 filing of charges against a DNA profile attributed to “John Doe,” and the May 2006 filing of charges specifically naming Grady Wayne Lewallen, 28, had no bearing on Lewallen’s right to speedy trial as it did not “subject him to arrest or jeopardize in any way his liberty.”
“None of the concerns connected to speedy trial are triggered by information that does not subject a specific person to arrest and trial,” Sutterfield wrote.
James Dunham, Lewallen’s attorney, argued at a Feb. 11 hearing the period between the filing of the charges and Lewallen’s arrest violated speedy trial rules mandating such a trial should take place within 12 months. Dunham also cited the fact amended information naming Lewallen specifically as the defendant in the case was not filed until May 5, 2006, despite Lewallen’s having been compelled to provide a DNA sample to authorities as a result of another, unrelated conviction in April 2004, as a separate speedy trial issue in the case.
Fifth Judicial District Prosecuting Attorney David Gibbons previously told The Courier he filed the charges against the then-unidentified DNA profile in 2004 due to concerns about possible statute of limitations restrictions.
In May 2006, a statewide DNA database matched a DNA sample taken from Lewallen to another taken from a rape kit conducted on the victim the night of the rape. April Robnett, a State Crime Lab administrator, testified at the hearing the delay between the time Lewallen provided his mandatory sample and the time of the match was due to a backlog at the lab. (see link for complete article)

http://www.couriernews.com/story.php?ID=17731


This case has always given me the chills!

[christina]

Originally Posted by FDInLaw

http://www.couriernews.com/story.php?ID=17731


This case has always given me the chills!

Is the conncetion to Nona's case because the dna was found in the system?

[FDInLaw]

Originally Posted by christina

Is the conncetion to Nona's case because the dna was found in the system?

No connection that I know of, just like the Dardanelle shooting. . . I started this thread for other local topics.

Freaky similarities though!!!

[hawgustusgloop]

This just popped up on KFSM about the shooting:

http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=7906519

[FDInLaw]

Sheriff eyeing 3 suspects in shootings
Story date: Feb. 27, 2008

Gilkey confirms “some” either current or former ATU football players
By Mary Kincy Benefield
Reporter
Authorities have identified three suspects in connection with the Feb. 16 shootings of two men outside an Arkansas Army National Guard armory near Dardanelle, Yell County Sheriff Bill Gilkey said Tuesday.
While he declined to name the suspects, citing concern the release of further information might jeopardize investigators’ continued efforts, Gilkey confirmed “some” of the suspects were current or former members of the Arkansas Tech University football team.
“We’re following up on leads regarding those three individuals at this time,” Gilkey said. None of the suspects have yet been arrested, Gilkey confirmed.
“We’re taking this slow,” he added. “It’s complicated, and we want to get it right the first time.” . . .

http://www.couriernews.com/story.php?ID=17784

[hawgustusgloop]

http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=8000151

What were these idiots doing?

[lorettalockhorn]

Maybe it's not unrelated?

From yesterday's Courier:

He initially said he could not say if authorities planned to investigate a possible connection to the Dardanelle shooting — in which Yell County Sheriff Bill Gilkey previously confirmed his investigators had developed three suspects, “some” of which were either current or former Tech football players — but then added investigators would “go where the evidence takes us.”


http://couriernews.com/archived_stor...ark%20shooting

By idiots, are you referring to the shooters, or the spokesmorons at Tech that talk out both sides of their mouths? Or both??

[FDInLaw]

Originally Posted by hawgustusgloop

http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=8000151

What were these idiots doing?

"Twenty-7-year-old DeMario Dontrell Dansberry and 19-year-old Devante Lavaris White are being held on $500,000 bonds. Police say the two, along with 25-year-old Marcell Gabriel White, were arrested Sunday night after police say they fired at least 30 9 mm rounds into the air from a car parked near James Park in Russellville. No one was injured.

Officers reported finding three 9 mm pistols, a bulletproof vest, a box of .40-caliber rounds, a clip for a .40-caliber pistol and several spent casings in the car and on its roof." (From your link)

Sad, that their common sense paled in comparison with the amount of ammo in their possession.

Dumb kids. . . sure glad no one was hurt.

[lorettalockhorn]

did anyone know this young man; William Ramsey?

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=62381

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=62426

http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/?cid=67227

[FDInLaw]

OSBURN DENIED NEW TRIAL


By Jeannie Nugent/OF THE COMMERCIAL STAFF
Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:58 AM CDT

HAMBURG — Calling the evidence “flimsy,” 10th Judicial District Circuit Court Judge Sam Pope took only seconds Monday to dismiss the motion for a new trial for Kenneth Osburn.



The 47-year-old trucker was convicted in January for the 2006 kidnapping and murder of Pine Bluff teenager Casey Crowder. He was sentenced to life without parole.

Crowder’s mother Melinda Crowder said after the hearing that she was relieved by Pope’s ruling.

“The thought of having to go through all of that again just devastated me,” she said. “I’m so glad. It would’ve just devastated my family.”

Defense attorneys cited juror misconduct in a demand that Osburn’s conviction be set aside and a new trial ordered. The motion was filed after Drew County resident Darcy Melder signed an affidavit claiming that co-worker, Lisa Adams, told her and other employees that juror Stacy Wesson said that she believed Osburn was guilty. The statement was allegedly made the weekend prior to the first day of trial.



From the stand Monday, Adams told Defense Attorney Patrick Benca that she did not make the statement. She did, however, admit that Osburn’s case was discussed that weekend while Adams and her husband, as well as Wesson and her boyfriend, Brett Shell, visited family members in Lake Village.

Adams said it was Shell that brought up the subject, saying that he was surprised that Wesson was chosen for the jury despite her belief in the death penalty. Adams replied with an emphatic “No” when asked by Benca if Wesson admitted to already having formed an opinion as to Osburn’s guilt.

Adams said Shell stated that Crowder had been raped, to which Wesson allegedly replied, “No, that’s not what happened.”

“The rest of us talked about how we felt he was guilty,” said Adams.

Defense Attorney Jim Wyatt told Pope that the fact that Wesson participated in a conversation about the case at all was against the court’s orders. Wyatt read instructions made to Wesson and the other jurors prior to the beginning of trial, warning them not to talk to anybody about the case and to report it immediately if someone tried to engage them in a conversation about the subject.

Melder did not deter from her testimony that Adams told her that Wesson had already formed an opinion as to Osburn’s guilt. Wyatt questioned Melder about any personal connections she had with Osburn or his family. She said her sister’s ex-husband was best friends with Osburn, but she is not a personal friend of Osburn or his family.

On cross examination, 10th Judicial Prosecutor Thomas Deen asked Melder if she had repeated Adams’ alleged conversation to anybody. Melder said she had relayed the information to Osburn’s daughter, Holly, who was a patient at the clinic.

Clinic Manager Elaine Donha testified that Adams came to her office and told her that she and Wesson would say the same thing on the stand and Melder would look bad.

Deen did not call any rebuttal witnesses and Wesson never took the stand.

Pope took only seconds in saying the allegations were “too flimsy” to merit a new trial for Osburn.

“The defense failed to make its case,” he said. . .

http://www.pbcommercial.com/articles...news/news2.txt

[lorettalockhorn]

Breaking news out of in Pope County. Deputies are working two crime scenes north of Dover on Rushing Road. They say someone shot four people.
Two are at St. Mary's Hospital in Russellville. The other two were med-flighted to a Little Rock hospital.

Deputies are trying to figure out exactly what happened.

They have one suspect in custody and believe he's responsible for all four shootings.

Stay with Today's THV and todaysthv.com for more on this developing story.


http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/...tid=2#comments

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by lorettalockhorn

Breaking news out of in Pope County. Deputies are working two crime scenes north of Dover on Rushing Road. They say someone shot four people.
Two are at St. Mary's Hospital in Russellville. The other two were med-flighted to a Little Rock hospital.

Deputies are trying to figure out exactly what happened.

They have one suspect in custody and believe he's responsible for all four shootings.

Stay with Today's THV and todaysthv.com for more on this developing story.


http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/...tid=2#comments

That is pretty wild! Wonder if it is domestic related?

[hawgustusgloop]

Two crime scenes? I wonder what is going on?!?!?

[lorettalockhorn]

TruTV needs to throw a few more hamsters on the treadmill! Took forever to get in here. The Courier site isn't updated yet, but here's the article:

Russellville police apprehended a Pope Cpounty man after four victims were shot Saturday evening north of Dover, Pope County authorities and Russellville police said.
Lt. Aaron DuVall, a criminal investigator with the Pope County Sheriff's Department, said just after 7:30 p.m. Saturday, the conditions of the victims - which he confirmed included at least two males and at least one female - were unknown. All were transported to Saint Mary's Regional Medical Center, he said.
DuVall confirmed a suspect in the shooting was in police custody, and said the man - who was also transported to Saint Mary's after Russellville police apprehended him in the parking lot of the Burger King restaurant on North Arkansas Avenue - was injured, but declined to specify the type or severity of the man's injuries.
Witnesses present at the scene at the Low Water Bridge area off Rushing Road - where locals frequently swim in warm weather - indicated the suspect, whose name is not being released by authorities at the time, may have recently returned from a military deployment to Iraq, and also indicated the shooting may have followed a wedding several said took place near the water prior to the incident.
A white sport-utility vehicle was partially submerged in water at the scene, although it was not immediately clear how the vehicle came to be in the middle of the creek.
The suspect's arrest came after Pope County 911 Emergency Communications issued a "be on the lookout" (BOLO) warning for a man considered armed and dangerous reportedly driving a 12-ton Cherolet pickup truck later identified as a red Silverado.
Authorities - including Deputy Pope County Coroner Doug Hottinger and Russellville Police Department (RPD) Officer Michael Paterak - began pursuit of the suspect vehicle after it was observed headed souuth on State Highway 7l RPD Public Information Officer Joshua McMillian confirmed, adding the vehicle was seen traveling at speeds of up to 100 mph before stopping in the Burger King parking lot. It was not immediately clear whether the suspect received the injuries for which he was transported to the hospital during or prior to the arrest.
DuVall, who indicated he was present at the emergency room at Saint Mary's when contacted Saturday night, said little other information was available.
We're at the very beginning stages of the investigation, so we're mainly just trying to piece together witnesses," DuVall said.

Aside: WTH is it with The Courier using "-" to indicate the incessant use of parathetical expressions??? I don't see other newspapers doing that.
DuVall's comment about "piecing together witnesses" sounds like they needed surgery too.

[SaraSidle]

Thanks Loretta for the update.

[lorettalockhorn]

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/...=66443&catid=2

[hawgustusgloop]

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/...=66449&catid=2

[lorettalockhorn]

There are some interesting comments posted at the KTHV site:

SisterOfTheBride wrote:
Wow! Do you have this story all messed up! The shooter was not known to the bride and groom. No one with the wedding party knew him. Evidently his girlfriend's dog got into a fight with the bride and groom's dog. He got his gun out to shoot the dog of the newly married couple, and when they tried to stop him, he shot them. He also shot one wedding guest, and the forth victim was his girlfriend who was trying to stop him from shooting! After he finished his shooting spree, he tried to escape by driving across the low water bridge. His vehicle drowned out in the water, so he ran off and stole "a farm truck". It was this farm truck which he was driving when he was arrested.

I know these things because I am the bride's sister and have just spent last night and today at the hospital with her and her husband. They are both in ICU.

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by lorettalockhorn

There are some interesting comments posted at the KTHV site:

SisterOfTheBride wrote:
Wow! Do you have this story all messed up! The shooter was not known to the bride and groom. No one with the wedding party knew him. Evidently his girlfriend's dog got into a fight with the bride and groom's dog. He got his gun out to shoot the dog of the newly married couple, and when they tried to stop him, he shot them. He also shot one wedding guest, and the forth victim was his girlfriend who was trying to stop him from shooting! After he finished his shooting spree, he tried to escape by driving across the low water bridge. His vehicle drowned out in the water, so he ran off and stole "a farm truck". It was this farm truck which he was driving when he was arrested.

I know these things because I am the bride's sister and have just spent last night and today at the hospital with her and her husband. They are both in ICU.

Thanks loretta

[upallnight]

Originally Posted by lorettalockhorn

There are some interesting comments posted at the KTHV site:

SisterOfTheBride wrote:
Wow! Do you have this story all messed up! The shooter was not known to the bride and groom. No one with the wedding party knew him. Evidently his girlfriend's dog got into a fight with the bride and groom's dog. He got his gun out to shoot the dog of the newly married couple, and when they tried to stop him, he shot them. He also shot one wedding guest, and the forth victim was his girlfriend who was trying to stop him from shooting! After he finished his shooting spree, he tried to escape by driving across the low water bridge. His vehicle drowned out in the water, so he ran off and stole "a farm truck". It was this farm truck which he was driving when he was arrested.

I know these things because I am the bride's sister and have just spent last night and today at the hospital with her and her husband. They are both in ICU.

What she says is true from what I was told by the x-wife of a member of the family. 3 of her children was there. 2 was playing in the shallow water when the shooting started. Her older son was trying to hold the back of the brides head to keep the stuff coming out as in place as he could. All 3 children were very tramutized by it all. She said the groom was shot twice, once in the jaw that caused a couple of teeth to have to be taken out in surgery due to the location they blew out to. The other shot went in his neck area she said. She said he did also shot his girlfriend but did not say where on her body, it was not as bad. As of today, she said the staus on all the victims is they will be ok, I was shocked because she said the bride was shot pretty much right between the eyes area. She also said there was drinking going there but not sure what if any thing that had to do with it. I had to end our talk to leave for a birthday party. Thank God none of the children got hurt. So sad for someone to do something like. Just don't understand it.

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks upall. The Courier had an article this morning, but the site isn't updated yet. SisterOfTheBride posted this at the KTHV site:

SisterOfTheBride wrote:
The bride had surgery to remove bone fragments from her brain since she was shot, at close range, in the forehead. We are hopeful that she will recover completely, though will be left with a considerable scar. The groom was shot twice, once in the jaw and once in the neck. The doctors are still trying to determine when his first surgery will be, but he is expected to eventually recover. The third victim was shot in the chest and is also still in the hospital, but is expected to recover. The forth victim was not part of the wedding party and was not known to the people at the wedding. She was with the shooter and received her wound while attempting to stop him from shooting. It is my understanding that she was shot in either the arm or hand.

Thanks to those who have offered kind words.

[upallnight]

Originally Posted by lorettalockhorn

Thanks upall. The Courier had an article this morning, but the site isn't updated yet. SisterOfTheBride posted this at the KTHV site:

SisterOfTheBride wrote:
The bride had surgery to remove bone fragments from her brain since she was shot, at close range, in the forehead. We are hopeful that she will recover completely, though will be left with a considerable scar. The groom was shot twice, once in the jaw and once in the neck. The doctors are still trying to determine when his first surgery will be, but he is expected to eventually recover. The third victim was shot in the chest and is also still in the hospital, but is expected to recover. The forth victim was not part of the wedding party and was not known to the people at the wedding. She was with the shooter and received her wound while attempting to stop him from shooting. It is my understanding that she was shot in either the arm or hand.

Thanks to those who have offered kind words.

Nancy Grace has the story on now, a Russellville reporter is speaking. Nancy will air show again later tonight if you missed it.

[upallnight]

Nancy Grace show reported family members at wedding said ***use of alcohol plus an arguement over dogs escalated and lead to shooting. Bride was lucky to be alive. The rest of the show was pretty much what had already been reported on local stations. One guest seem to think shooter may need to be checked out to see if he has some type of social disorder. (According to my source, alcohol was involved, she took pictures of the crime scene to take to her attorney. She said many times her x has the kids, the children are expose to some type of incident due to the alcohol use. IMO no reason for this to have happened but I do understand her point that people are not the same under the influence. I would not want my children in that situation either. She was blessed her children was not hurt.)

[lorettalockhorn]

Here's the transcript of the segment:

GRACE: Man.

When we come back, it should have been the most beautiful and sacred day of their lives, their wedding day, just before sunset. But bullets tear through the crowd. The bride shot between the eyes, the groom in the mouth and the neck. Miracle they lived.

Tonight, the investigation.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(NEWSBREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A wedding, usually one of the happiest days in a couple`s life. But on this day, the bride and groom ended up shot and clinging to life.

Reports say suspect Patrick Duvall apparently got into an argument with the bride and the groom about a dog. Moments later, police say Duvall shot the newlyweds. But the wedding guests didn`t let the suspect escape. They followed the gunman, who was driving a stolen vehicle, to a fast food restaurant, where Duvall was apprehended by authorities.

Police questioning over 30 witnesses, trying to piece together how a bride and groom ended up shot at their own wedding.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

GRACE: In a beautiful and idyllic setting, just at twilight, just before nightfall, the sun setting, bullets tear through a wedding ceremony. The bride shot between the eyes. The groom shot in mouth and the neck. Bottom line, miracle, they lived.

Tonight, the investigation. Out to Mary Kincy Benefield, with the Russellville Courier, what happened?

MARY KINCY BENEFIELD, NEWS EDITOR, RUSSELLVILLE COURIER: Well, we don`t know a lot right now. The police are being sort of closed mouthed about the details. We do know that at some point after the vows were spoken, apparently someone involved with the wedding got into an argument with Mr. Duvall and he retrieved a handgun and shot four people.

He then somehow got his car stuck in the middle of the creek. It was white utility vehicle that was still at the scene, when I was on scene a couple hours later. Then apparently fled that vehicle, stole another vehicle from a nearby passenger and drove about 10 miles into neighboring Russellville where he was captured by police. He actually surrendered.

GRACE: Incredible.

Eben Brown with Metronetworks, what more can you tell us?

EBEN BROWN, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, we know so far that this man was a stranger to the bride and groom, that they didn`t know who he was. He wasn`t someone that they had any type of history with whatsoever. But he is the man that shot them.

GRACE: To Mike Brooks -- weigh in, Mike.

BROOKS: Nancy, this is just a bizarre case. Here they are, out in the middle of a park, having their wedding. And you`ve got this ne`er-do- well, I mean, you know, I don`t even want to talk any second more about him. You know, he comes up there with a weapon and opens fire over some little argument that he had.

You know, if you go back and I think they go back, and look, he`s probably going to have some -- some past records on his own, probably a weapons charge in his past.

GRACE: This is incredible to me that bullets can tear through your wedding ceremony.

I want to go out to Dr. Michael Bell, Palm Beach County chief medical examiner. How is it -- the bride was shot between the eyes. Why is it she is going to recover? That seems incredible to me.

DR. MICHAEL BELL, PALM BEACH CO. CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER: Chances are the bullet path went through the frontal lobes, probably not to the back of her brain but perhaps upwards, and thus spared her, you know, a much worse consequence.

GRACE: I want to go back out to the lawyers, Ray Giudice, Anne Bremner.

To you, Ray Giudice, what is he looking at?

GIUDICE: Well, Nancy, on the aggravated assault -- charges, he`s look at 20 years times four. Four separate counts. You got an auto theft charge. Looks like everyone is going survive. Hopefully that will be the case and won`t be upgraded to any type of a homicide charge.

GRACE: What about it, Anne Bremner?

BREMNER: Well, I agree with the fact, the question is will he be diagnosed for demonizing in this case. I mean he may well have some true issues.

GRACE: Oh, here it comes.

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Just like, if it didn`t fit, you must acquit. Now it`s diagnosed or demonized. Got a question for you, did you make that up?

BREMNER: No comment. I`ll take credit for it, if you like it.

GRACE: OK, so Anne, when you say diagnosed or demonized, explain, translate for me.

BREMNER: What I`m basically saying, Nancy, in more simpler terms is that either we`re looking at -- some kind of mental defense, because this is so bizarre, or, in fact, he`s really a horrible person and went out and did kind of one of those horrible acts, killing -- trying to kill a bride and groom at their wedding ceremony of all things.

This is a classic case of one or the other.

GRACE: To Tracy Dennis, psychology professor, it`s audacious and I think Anne Bremner is actually correct that there`s got to be some type of mental defense. I mean, the guests at the wedding chased him down. That is how cops finally get him. They chased him down, seeing that he is getting away. They get in their vehicles and they chased the guy from the wedding as the bride and groom are rushed to the emergency room.

The audacity of this shooting, what does it mean?

DENNIS: Well, it does -- a diagnosis I think might be warranted. It doesn`t excuse this behavior and it shouldn`t in a legal context. But he is showing signs of anti-social personality disorder, and that includes a clear lack of empathy for other`s feelings, lawlessness, disregard for laws, impulsivity.

GRACE: Of course that will not rise to a mental defect. It could be a defense in some jurisdictions.

Out to the lines, Ty in Washington. Hi, Ty.

TY, WASHINGTON RESIDENT: Hi.

GRACE: What`s your question, dear?

TY: I was wondering if it`s possible that the shooter knew anybody at the wedding.

GRACE: Excellent question. Back to Mary Kincy Benefield with the Russellville Courier, any connection at all to anyone?

BENEFIELD: Apparently not. I was told by several witnesses at the scene that he may have had some interaction with them. Of course, we would presume that from the altercation. But from what we`re being told by police sources, they did not know one another.

GRACE: To Eben Brown, investigative reporter -- Eben, I understand they got into a verbal argument over their dogs, one of them being a pit bull?

BROWN: It`s a little shaky, Nancy. Somebody insulted the other person`s dog and then somehow this turned into a shooting. And it`s still really up in the air. But this began over words about the opinion of someone else`s dog.

GRACE: To Mike Brooks, I`ve seen homicides over something as small as a $10 debt. So I`m not surprised that they had a fight over their dogs. What`s he doing carrying around a 9 millimeter weapon?

BROOKS: Exactly. Well, you know, it`s Arkansas, so a lot of people carry guns in their cars in Arkansas like they do here in Georgia.

GRACE: A lot of people carry guns in their cars all over the country, Mike.

BROOKS: Exactly. But I`m saying, you know, a little argument like that escalates, this guy has got some issues, needless to say.

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[lorettalockhorn]

Today's Courier article:

http://couriernews.com/story.php?ID=18595

[upallnight]

Melissa Beavers, (the bride who got shot) will speak tonight on Nancy Grace.

[upallnight]

My friend of the family told me today she is going home. Unbelievable! The groom will stay in the hospital-he is facing surgery's. She showed me pictures of the crime scene and more of the story. I have to go for now but will try to add it later. One thing she said was the girl friend of the shooter was the original one that grabbed the gun and said if you don't shot the dog I will. Then her boyfriend got the gun somehow and shot her. He then just started shooting until no more bullets remained. They had actually talked him into not going for the gun but the girlfriend made the if you don't I will thing and it went bad from there. I have to go but will try to write more later. My friend is getting this from family there so her's is second hand also and said the newspaper reports have reported it wrong but details are still coming out from the people that was there.

[lorettalockhorn]

Thanks upall. My DISH went out and I don't have HNN on my basic cable, so I'll have to watch at midnight.

The story just gets crazier as the days go by. Wonder how many witnesses LE have left to talk to, and I wonder if everyone has come forward. Is it possible that people are worried about having been drinking in public/dry county that they aren't talking? I read that they don't even know who drove the victims to the intersection of Hwy 7.

[lorettalockhorn]

The bride on tonight's news:

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/...=66632&catid=2

[upallnight]

Originally Posted by upallnight

My friend of the family told me today she is going home. Unbelievable! The groom will stay in the hospital-he is facing surgery's. She showed me pictures of the crime scene and more of the story. I have to go for now but will try to add it later. One thing she said was the girl friend of the shooter was the original one that grabbed the gun and said if you don't shot the dog I will. Then her boyfriend got the gun somehow and shot her. He then just started shooting until no more bullets remained. They had actually talked him into not going for the gun but the girlfriend made the if you don't I will thing and it went bad from there. I have to go but will try to write more later. My friend is getting this from family there so her's is second hand also and said the newspaper reports have reported it wrong but details are still coming out from the people that was there.

Ok, just saw the bride on channel 11 and they reported the girlfriend was trying to stop the shooter, my source told me that is one of the things the media was reporting wrong. They did not say she was going home today or tomorrow either. Not sure what to think now, but then again-maybe she is and they did not know or did not report that part. Don't know what to think for sure now. Maybe her source saw/heard it different from others but she said her sister in law sure is upset because it is being reported wrong and said she saw it first hand. I think I will wait until it settles down to see if the story changes from my source and the media if they report on the story more. Just glad no one was killed and hope the groom (or anyone else) does not have more complications from his injuries to face in the future.

[lorettalockhorn]

Upall, there seems to be a lot of conflicting reports.

This has some of Duvall's version:

http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp...&nav=menu151_2

[lorettalockhorn]

Dover Times article:

http://admin.iadsnetwork.com/images/pdf/pdfs/9616.pdf