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Common Purpose a bPossibleTheory?

I've just googled Common Purpose, only to find very short paragraphs about citizens infiltrating governments, apparently worldwide, to allegedly prepare for civil emergencies if gov't should fall, also about family interventions?

Someone know a lot more about this? Would they be affiliated with intel groups? Any mind control experiments? Mind you I'm not claiming to know anything at all about this, just routine bringing up subjects. Someone who's been flaunting the rules for quite a while I hope doesn't have to get reported without warning, something I've never ever had to do. All of us on opposite sides in the Ramsey case managed to abide by the rules and we can in this case too.
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"I Know Nothink" Re Politics Either

A day later, no apparent interest, so here's just one link from my googling again this morning and not really delving into any of the many results. Seems to be something worldwide, or at least in about 80 countries(?)

There are a few words they seem to have in common, "Change", "Psychiatric Rehab", "NHS Improvement Network", "Recovery Our Common Purpose",

http://www.tin.nhs.uk/leadership/common-purpose
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I've just googled Common Purpose, only to find very short paragraphs about citizens infiltrating governments, apparently worldwide, to allegedly prepare for civil emergencies if gov't should fall, also about family interventions?

Someone know a lot more about this? Would they be affiliated with intel groups? Any mind control experiments? Mind you I'm not claiming to know anything at all about this, just routine bringing up subjects. Someone who's been flaunting the rules for quite a while I hope doesn't have to get reported without warning, something I've never ever had to do. All of us on opposite sides in the Ramsey case managed to abide by the rules and we can in this case too.
Your post is confusing me, Eagle....what are you trying to say here?
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Hi, Lady Fischer

Do you mean what am I trying to say about "Common Purpose", whatever that is, or do you mean what am I trying to say about abiding by the rules? (Just a hint to the sufficient was wise, evidently, (a professor's old saying) the pattern of ridiculing everything I say apparently broken successfully by the hint about reporting, so we can skip over that.)

If you mean what am I trying to say about Common Purpose, I don't really know myself. Didn't want to dig into it if nobody else interested.

One of the very short search results paragraphs mentioned something about corruption but I didn't go there, not sure it would have anything to do with little Maddie's situation. I'm not really into politics, rather not, don't even know if Common Purpose is politics, of a new kind. I thought maybe someone else would know something about it.
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theory sounds familiar

Without yet having read the information on the "common purpose" theory and only going by your remarks as to its possible involvement with mind control programs all I can say is that it sounds like a rehash/remix of what I consider to be a hoax theory which I first saw in the Johnny Gosch case (case of a young newspaper delivery boy of about 11 who disappeared many years ago in the USA.) In that case the theory was of a gov. mind control program which was involving a very very widespread group of L.E. and gov. officials who covered up and ordered the kidnapping of children for the program.

Some of the same proponents of that theory also seem to believe in aliens taking over the world too. (Really - I am not kidding - they seem to believe both.)

Some of the theory in the gosch case was based on the MK Ultra scandal. I found an entry in wikipedia which tells a little about the alleged MK Ultra program (but does not tie it to the gosch case.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA

The alleged link to the gosch case is made in other forums in threads about the gosch case.


Note: To be fair I again mention that I have not read the info about the common purpose theory and so I could be unfairly comparing the two theories based solely on having read the few remarks you posted.
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I Have No Theory, Just Asking About Organization

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..... in the Johnny Gosch case (case of a young newspaper delivery boy of about 11 who disappeared many years ago in the USA.) In that case the theory was of a gov. mind control program which was involving a very very widespread group of L.E. and gov. officials who covered up and ordered the kidnapping of children for the program...........

Some of the theory in the gosch case was based on the MK Ultra scandal. I found an entry in wikipedia which tells a little about the alleged MK Ultra program (but does not tie it to the gosch case.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA

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Note: To be fair, I again mention that I have not read the info about the common purpose theory and so I could be unfairly comparing the two theories based solely on having read the few remarks you posted.
Thanks for a very good answer.

There were some lawsuits decades ago I believe against the CIA (MK Ultra) about mind control experiments on the unsuspecting, some of it using LSD, and some man (Olson?) evidently was suicided from an 8th floor window.

I'm not sure if you're saying they may be still at it. One case I think was in Canada, McGill University. It can probably all be googled if anyone's interested. I'm trying to emphasize that "I know nothink", am just asking if it's true there's some organization for "change", and what kind of change.
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sounds like more oddball world domination theories

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. . .I'm trying to emphasize that "I know nothink", am just asking if it's true there's some organization for "change", and what kind of change.
I do not know how true it is that such an organization exists. Conspiracists often manage to make all sorts of things sound true when they speak of their latest pet theory about the cause of the ills of the world.

I do not know if such an organization as it is described exists and if it does exist I still do not know it to be as sinister as its painted to be and I still do not know that it has any link at all to the Madeliene McCann case.

I did find a conspiracy blog site that speaks of common purose and I provide the link below.

Note to readers: Just keep in mind that that link is to a blog which is essentially a persons soapbox to rant, rave or opine about whatever takes his/her fancy whether it contains the truth or fantasy.

"Browns Britain - EU 5th columnists now run government "
http://thejournal.parker-joseph.co.u...0/3261550.html

I admit I am a bit puzzled as to how this odd conspiracy theory has been linked to the Madeliene McCann case.
Can you elaborate?
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I do not know how true it is that such an organization exists. Conspiracists often manage to make all sorts of things sound true when they speak of their latest pet theory about the cause of the ills of the world................

"Browns Britain - EU 5th columnists now run government "
http://thejournal.parker-joseph.co.u...0/3261550.html

I admit I am a bit puzzled as to how this odd conspiracy theory has been linked to the Madeliene McCann case. Can you elaborate?
Your link has a lot more information than I do, and I've just printed it out, have not started reading it yet.

You ask how this has been linked to the Maddie case.

I don't know that it has. I was just asking, because of reading the brief search results, none of which I opened for details. Knew somebody would come along who'd know the gist of it.

I wouldn't necessarily call it a "conspiracy theory", an expression I greatly dislike because it seems to have been born/invented with the JFK assassination, evidently by people with motive to try to outlaw the word. (Conspirators!) That's probably one of the clues that it wasn't Oswald, "acting alone".

Have you noticed that whenever they announce in the papers the name of a little girl that they claim someone thought was Maddie, they're destroying that new child's privacy and possibly exposing them to pedophiles?

Already this doesn't sound too smart, imho. The sightings may very well have been Maddie. Teasing us may be a sadistic game some kind of crazies are playing. I can picture her saying 'I want my Daddy." Mrs. Fenn who "lived" about the McCanns' holiday lodging heard Maddie calling her Daddy a long time one night. Calling her crazy would be, imo, the same m.o. as the JFK people, and of course lots of others, have used. I'm aware that it might still be dangerous to mention their m.o., etc.. Those sounding the alarm are very caring about the rest of us, and very brave, right?
Come to think of it, maybe they also told that some people you mentioned in an earlier post believed something about aliens. Don't you doubt that?

In view of the fact that a U.S. President was murdered before our very eyes, and Oswald was known to be a very poor shot, didn't act guilty, sauntered into the lunchroom for a coke when everybody else was so excited, and people witnessed and photographed a person on the grassy knoll, wearing a police uniform, a puff of white smoke in front of him.

We're supposed to believe none of this happened and concentrate on the witnesses believing aliens are the threat?

I'm just noticing the word CHANGE, and wondering why they never say what kind of change. Heard it at church one day, a rather young woman assistant pastor showing a "video" with terribly inappropriate loud rock music and the word "Ch....ch....ch....ch....ch.....ch.....ch.....chan ge!" I didn't count how many times the stuttering went on. it was just a still picture of people standing around the entrance to a camp. Don't know if she's trying to mind control us about something political or what. And I noticed the word "purpose" on the outdoor billboard of another church today. I don't remember what the other words were about. Was just passing by, in my car.

Christians are watching for the final antichrist, you know, who'll be temporary, but has a heretic clergyman, thinks to replace God, the Lucifer of the very famous chapter Isaiah 14, destroying his own nation, posing as one of the messengers of light, and an underground, worldwide it seems, if you skim some Biblical prophecy, which "rules kings of earth".

Was JFK maybe disobeying them or a similar organization? Wasn't he going to end the Korean war? Or was it Viet Nam? Anyway, Christians are supposed to be watching for "the beast and false prophet" to try to change Christianity and the world. We have to be loyal to Christ to the death.Not saying this is it. I truly don't know anything about it.

Again let me emphasize I'm only asking about this, and whether this word Change might mean someone may have wanted Maddie changed in some way. Nothing on which to base it, and don't let anyone conspire to tell you that I think aliens are attacking or that this is a conspiracy. I don't know a darned thing about it, until I real your article. Don't know yet if I'll have to go to an ofc supply store tomorrow morning to enlarge it.

You know a lot more about it than I do, and thank you much for the input.
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I'm still working on it. Went to enlarge the article yesterday with some other material also, only got one page done before I had to leave. Better luck today.

There's still plenty on the internet about CP, tho' I'm not at all sure it has anything to do with Maddie.

It's just something to look into until we hopefully get some real news.
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I'm still working on it. Went to enlarge the article yesterday with some other material also, only got one page done before I had to leave. Better luck today.

There's still plenty on the internet about CP, tho' I'm not at all sure it has anything to do with Maddie.

It's just something to look into until we hopefully get some real news.

Odette's updates sticky has news that Murat's girlfriend says she was not the one who someone saw accepting Maddie from some man. And that Kate decided to refuse a lie detector test.
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Thurs. 11-20-07 from Odette's Sticky

Odette's post #1219 in her sticky thread
reports that the apartment where the McCanns were staying isn't owned by the Ocean Club but by someone named McCann.

What a coincidence. See the sticky thread for the story.

Could Kate & Gerry & maybe even her parents, be members (don't know if that's the precise word to use) of this "Common Purpose" movement which is supposed to be about change, but never says what kind of change, and believing in some kind of CHANGE for Maddie? Just asking, not stating anything and notice my statement always says an opinion of the moment, always subject to my own "change".
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Odette's News Post #41 in Updates Sticky, Previous Burglaries

Looking through the News Updates thread again from the first, I find this post interesting enough to be mentioned again, that ..........
Mrs. Fenn's apt had an intruder, and also another apt, where some money was taken, with no sign of forced entry, possibly an employee using a key.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811

And I'd like to raise a question re the timeline, Since Gerry did not really search for Maddie at 9-something, how do we know she wasn't already gone? News reports seem to be assuming she could only have disappeared after that. (Could it be the McCanns and possibly the Healeys belong to this "Common Purpose" movement or whatever it is, about "change", which never mentions what kind of change? Just a thought.)

Post #52 in the Updates thread, police investigated 10 cars. No details about the cars given, maybe later.
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Another Updates Highlight, Pg 9

Maddie's DNA is found on the window sill, and other forensics updates. Post #333.
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Map, Re-Paved Streets Near Church

Another highlight from Updates Only, a link to the map of streets around the church showing which ones have been re-paved, re-cobbled. Not claiming to know if this is relevant or not, just wiw info from about pg 9.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle293560.ece

Three more highlight notes:

Pg 10, Post 369, map of area, http:www.telegraph.co.uk/new/main...Maddy11.2.xml

Same Pg Post #373, Gerry and Murat, Old Friendship, Translation

Same Page, Post #380, Police Want Kate's Diary

Same Page, link from Riviera to old Discussion before reorganization ...
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