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10-03-2007, 08:57 PM
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Cops: 13 yr Old Boy Kills Brother Over Dessert
Cops: 13 yr Old Boy Kills Brother Over Dessert
By TRAVIS REED, Associated Press Writer
ORLANDO, Fla. - A 13-year-old choked and beat his 8-year-old brother to death because the younger boy ate a dessert and the older one worried he would be blamed, authorities said Wednesday.
Demetrius Key was arrested on first-degree murder. The boys' mother, Tangela Key, told police she was visiting a cousin nearby and left him in charge of Levares Key and other younger siblings Saturday.
A neighbor told investigators she heard four loud bangs, followed by 10 minutes of quiet and then more commotion, according to an Orange County Sheriff's Office news release.
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10-03-2007, 09:24 PM
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SO instead of getting in trouble for eating dessert, he'd rather get in trouble for killing his little brother??? This is sad and sick.
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10-03-2007, 10:45 PM
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It is quite weird how when something bad happens people automatically commit a crime in hopes of covering the first lesser evil event up. it doesn't make sense.
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10-04-2007, 01:12 PM
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It is quite weird how when something bad happens people automatically commit a crime in hopes of covering the first lesser evil event up. it doesn't make sense.
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My thoughts exactly!
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10-04-2007, 02:00 PM
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It never ceases to amaze and frighten me that our young people, our future has no regard for human life or much else. No morals, no guilt, no respect, no rules and NO punishment. This is a good recipe for the end of our Country as we know it. So sad. His brother meant so little to him the others that was in his care can consider themselves very lucky to still be alive. UUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH this makes me want to spit!
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10-22-2007, 03:45 AM
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Kind of scary...in the "land of opportunity" that a child would be so afraid of eating something without permission. Makes me wonder inside the box...what the household was like, were they so poor that such rules had to be placed on eathing things out of the family fridge? What drove that child to be so afraid of his parental figure's' that he would choose to beat the living hell and life out of his little brother ? I worry for the welfare of those remaining children, if they have enough food...and why the FEAR over eating a snack. Something else is/was/has gone rancid behind those walls, IMO.
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10-22-2007, 05:29 PM
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This boy clearly has some serious impulse control problems and I would not be surprised if he displayed conduct disordered behaviours. Hopefully, they will recommend a diversion program and some cognitive behavioral therapy to teach him how to control his impulses.
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11-13-2007, 03:19 PM
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from what this sounds like is this kid who did has alot mental issues that our brought on from his family I've read more into this about the mother and the godmother..its just horrible thing that happened to that little boy all because of what his older brother probably learned from his adult peers...
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11-17-2007, 06:47 PM
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the old slave mentality
you can take a man out of slavery but seems you can not take slavery out of the man. We are desensitising our kids by beating them and killing something inside them. Their are parents of all races who beat their kids and indeed i used to. It was the way i thought to make sure they behaved. It was about poor parenting skills. Although not to the extreme i was harsh with my older kids. With the younger two i have realised this is not the way. I saw a little black boy about five the other day in the street his mum was shouting at him you little ******* i ought to slap your face off and other extreme stuff he was very frightened you could see and i thought if she went on like that in public what must go on behind closed doors.
I also saw one black teen beating another black teen in a extreme bullying situation demanding money with menaces. The older teen actually threatening to throw the victim off the railway bridge. He kicked and hit and by the words he was using to cow his victim I thought to myself he had learned this behaviour and was probably a victim himself through childhood. It was horriffic. I tried to intervene and the bully completely ignored me. I phoned police and did what i could to protect the younger boy but i felt helpless. After kicking the boy almost senseless the older one walked away a bit. Then he said no im not finished come here- come the f..k here and the poor boy walked right back to him to recveive another punch. It was the worst thing i have seen. As the bully was 6 foot odd and really big I did not stand a chance to stop him. I feel so bad I didn't. I tried to get the victim to wait for the police but he wouldnt so i gave him some money to get home as his bike had been thrown over the railway bridge. But it was only last week and it has really made me think how we are desensitising killing our boys humanity by treating them so harsh so young. Luckily my oldest two sons are kind and sweet natured and I thank god. The image of that young boy picking himself up and straightening his hat to hide his swollen face and straighening his clothes and walking off into the night as if nothing had happened will stay with me. So many of our children will do that tonight - pick themselves up from violent attack and go on and we will know nothing of their pain.
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11-17-2007, 08:37 PM
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I agree that the young people of today's world are so violent and show such disregard for human life, even their own. They see so much violence all around them all the time. Schools are no longer safe havens, they spend a great deal of time raising themselves, and some of their role models are not exactly people to follow.
Not to make any excuses for Demetrius Key, but unfortunately his actions were TAUGHT to not only him, but his siblings as well. When you're forced to hold down a child while your mother beats him, must be hell. I have prayed that the CPS remove the other 6 kids from their environment. I'm afraid if they don't they are going to be the same type of teen that Demetrius is.
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11-19-2007, 08:39 AM
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What do you think his charges will be considering he's only 13 years of age?
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11-19-2007, 02:18 PM
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I agree with you 100%
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Originally Posted by SimplySue
I agree that the young people of today's world are so violent and show such disregard for human life, even their own. They see so much violence all around them all the time. Schools are no longer safe havens, they spend a great deal of time raising themselves, and some of their role models are not exactly people to follow.
Not to make any excuses for Demetrius Key, but unfortunately his actions were TAUGHT to not only him, but his siblings as well. When you're forced to hold down a child while your mother beats him, must be hell. I have prayed that the CPS remove the other 6 kids from their environment. I'm afraid if they don't they are going to be the same type of teen that Demetrius is. 
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I agree with you 100% on that...kids that our so much aggressive you know that there taught that at home..I work for the school district here and you wouldn't belive what I've seen and how nasty some of the kids our you wonder why and then you meet the parent or quardian of the child you figure out why..the sad part some of the kids you can picture there lifes in jail one kid was caught with pot and was sent juvi its like omg this is the life that this kids gonna have..
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11-19-2007, 02:19 PM
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What do you think his charges will be considering he's only 13 years of age?
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I'm sure there gonna try to go with adult charges..
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11-27-2007, 09:36 AM
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I'm sure there gonna try to go with adult charges..
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what makes you think this? just because it's a murder?
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11-27-2007, 01:18 PM
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what makes you think this? just because it's a murder?
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yeah because its murder he blungeoned his brother to death...wouldn't you think the same?
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11-27-2007, 09:40 PM
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I think they will try him as an adult because of all the attention this case has gotten in the media. This is such a sad case to me. I really do feel sympathy for Demetrius. I believe if he does get a very long sentence, when he does get out he will be worse, angrier, hopeless and dangerous. As young as he is it will be a big possibility that he get sentenced 60 yrs and serve 1/2 and be out on the streets at the age of 45 or 46. That sends a shiver up my spine.
But is he too far gone for juvi? Is he beyond rehabilitation? Relearning how to be a human being?
The only reason that I do have sympathy for the boy, is because this behavior was taught to him. More than likely from birth.
I'm torn with this case ................... what would be the right thing, what would serve justice?
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11-28-2007, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SimplySue
I think they will try him as an adult because of all the attention this case has gotten in the media. This is such a sad case to me. I really do feel sympathy for Demetrius. I believe if he does get a very long sentence, when he does get out he will be worse, angrier, hopeless and dangerous. As young as he is it will be a big possibility that he get sentenced 60 yrs and serve 1/2 and be out on the streets at the age of 45 or 46. That sends a shiver up my spine.
But is he too far gone for juvi? Is he beyond rehabilitation? Relearning how to be a human being?
The only reason that I do have sympathy for the boy, is because this behavior was taught to him. More than likely from birth.
I'm torn with this case ................... what would be the right thing, what would serve justice?
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I agree with you 100%..I feel for Demetrius I really do it really is a sad case because you know he was taught this at home....but he should be charged as an adult being it was murder...I do really have a heart for this little boy but he has to be treated just as any other child would if they done the same..
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12-04-2007, 12:17 PM
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yeah because its murder he blungeoned his brother to death...wouldn't you think the same?
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no, not really.
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12-05-2007, 09:41 AM
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no, not really.
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So what do you think is the right decision then?
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12-13-2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by One2Snoop
Cops: 13 yr Old Boy Kills Brother Over Dessert
By TRAVIS REED, Associated Press Writer
ORLANDO, Fla. - A 13-year-old choked and beat his 8-year-old brother to death because the younger boy ate a dessert and the older one worried he would be blamed, authorities said Wednesday.
Demetrius Key was arrested on first-degree murder. The boys' mother, Tangela Key, told police she was visiting a cousin nearby and left him in charge of Levares Key and other younger siblings Saturday.
A neighbor told investigators she heard four loud bangs, followed by 10 minutes of quiet and then more commotion, according to an Orange County Sheriff's Office news release.
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Good God,what kind of a world are we living in? A rose for the murdered brother
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12-13-2007, 05:46 PM
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It never ceases to amaze and frighten me that our young people, our future has no regard for human life or much else. No morals, no guilt, no respect, no rules and NO punishment. This is a good recipe for the end of our Country as we know it. So sad. His brother meant so little to him the others that was in his care can consider themselves very lucky to still be alive. UUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH this makes me want to spit!
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My brother is a schoolteacher he says the kids get worse every year. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I think alot of the problem started when we took God out of school and made prayer illegal. The boy who did this had no conscience or he obviously wouldn't have been able to do commit a horrific crime against his own flesh and blood.
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12-13-2007, 08:19 PM
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My brother is a schoolteacher he says the kids get worse every year. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I think alot of the problem started when we took God out of school and made prayer illegal. The boy who did this had no conscience or he obviously wouldn't have been able to do commit a horrific crime against his own flesh and blood.
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I agree with you 150% Whats even sadder is you had to write "not to offend anyone" before you spoke of God. Thats what it has come down to. Our Children can't even bring in cookies and have Christmas Trees in school. Our morals are changing and people are just getting shallower and more evil and selfish. Its disgraceful.  IMO
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12-18-2007, 02:42 PM
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My brother is a schoolteacher he says the kids get worse every year. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I think alot of the problem started when we took God out of school and made prayer illegal. The boy who did this had no conscience or he obviously wouldn't have been able to do commit a horrific crime against his own flesh and blood.
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They do get worse and not only are you right about God, but if paretns paddled appropriately (not beat but spanked) or somhow disciplined their kids then there would be less problems. School are have less and less recourse every year! They will do anything because it doesn't matter b/c nothing will happen anyway. The schools hands are tied!
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01-14-2008, 06:17 PM
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What do you think his charges will be considering he's only 13 years of age?
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13 is old enough to know that choking your brother to death is wrong. So, in my opinion there must be a lot more to the story. I can understand that as a kid left in charge of a sibling he was probably pretty ticked off at his brother for eating that dessert. He also probably believed he would be blamed for it. Boys tend to solve their disputes and express irritation by pounding the crap out of each other. So what in the world frightened this kid so much that he over-reacted and murdered his brother instead of just giving him a good slap? What did he think was going to happen to him when his mother got home? Without knowing any facts, it's my instinct that there's a history of abuse. I'm not saying it's impossible that the kid is evil, but it seems unlikely to me. It's a disturbing case, but based on the minimal info we've heard, I don't think he committed 1st degree murder.
Sad, sad, sad.
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yeah because its murder he blungeoned his brother to death...wouldn't you think the same?
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The thing you must ask is whether he is to go to prison or become a ward of the state in a psychiatric hospital? in my opinion he had a choice between commiting the murder or stopping.we can arguee and agruee whether the parents are to blame or not. in my opinion he choose to murder his brother. he could have stopped after beating his brother (which i do not agree with) but he choose instead to take it a step furthur.
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Originally Posted by taylor63
My brother is a schoolteacher he says the kids get worse every year. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I think alot of the problem started when we took God out of school and made prayer illegal. The boy who did this had no conscience or he obviously wouldn't have been able to do commit a horrific crime against his own flesh and blood.
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Please... do you actually think for one moment that teaching a child to pray by rote in school, especially with this child's background, is going to make one iota of difference?
And then, what prayer would you have taught? There's lots of religions out there...go round robin maybe?
Fine. Then what say you when the Church of Satan --a valid, if unsavory, religion-- gets its turn?
If compassion isn't in a child's nature and nurtured by family, whether by religion or instilling morals, all the chants in the world before class wouldn't have changed this outcome or others like it.
That entire 'argument' is a cop-out: we've got to start putting the blame squarely where it belongs instead of aping rhetoric that curiously passes in this society as insight, wisdom &/or truth.
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07-10-2008, 10:42 AM
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I agree with you 150% Whats even sadder is you had to write "not to offend anyone" before you spoke of God. Thats what it has come down to. Our Children can't even bring in cookies and have Christmas Trees in school. Our morals are changing and people are just getting shallower and more evil and selfish. Its disgraceful.  IMO
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I disagree. Whether or not you believe in God doesn't determine if you are a good person or not. My brothers and I were not raised in the church and none of us are thieves, rapist, murders, or the like. I've never been harmed in any way by any non-christians. I cannot say the same about quite a few people that claimed to be "godly" or were raised in christian households. Look at the LDS thing that was recently in the news. Those people consider themselves extremely religious and think that having many wives and incest are ok. Religion is based on how people interpret it and not everyone interprets it the same way. If people would forget about religion and just do what they know from their own personal morals, is right or wrong, then this would be a heck of a lot better world.
jmo of course...
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08-16-2008, 12:02 PM
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Kind of scary...in the "land of opportunity" that a child would be so afraid of eating something without permission. Makes me wonder inside the box...what the household was like, were they so poor that such rules had to be placed on eathing things out of the family fridge? What drove that child to be so afraid of his parental figure's' that he would choose to beat the living hell and life out of his little brother ? I worry for the welfare of those remaining children, if they have enough food...and why the FEAR over eating a snack. Something else is/was/has gone rancid behind those walls, IMO.
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I'm with you on this one. Poor kids.
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The thing you must ask is whether he is to go to prison or become a ward of the state in a psychiatric hospital? in my opinion he had a choice between commiting the murder or stopping.we can arguee and agruee whether the parents are to blame or not. in my opinion he choose to murder his brother. he could have stopped after beating his brother (which i do not agree with) but he choose instead to take it a step furthur.
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I believe he should go to prision...although I do believe he should still be evaluated...if he hasn't already..
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01-13-2009, 09:37 AM
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Mother Arrested In Fatal Beating Of Boy
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Police in Orlando arrested the mother of an 8-year-old boy on Thursday after investigators said he was beaten to death over a dessert.
Authorities said the boy was choked and beaten by his 13-year-old brother until he died. Levares Key ate the dessert, and his older brother, Demetrius, worried he would be blamed. Tangela Key, their mother, was arrested Thursday morning and charged with aggravated child neglect, police said.
http://www.wesh.com/news/14266755/detail.html
I know these updates our from 07...I'm still looking to see if there were any newer ones..
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01-13-2009, 09:41 AM
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rother Charged In Boy's Death; Mother's Custody Questioned
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A 13-year-old boy was charged with first-degree murder on Wednesday in connection with the death of his 8-year-old brother, and investigators are questioning the boy's biological mother's custody.
A neighbor called 911 on Saturday after discovering the younger boy was beaten.
Deputies arrested Demetrius Key, 13, Tuesday night at his great grandmother's home in St. Cloud.
http://www.wesh.com/news/14257556/detail.html
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01-13-2009, 09:43 AM
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Police: Mother Delayed Getting Dead Son Medical Attention?
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Orange County Sheriff's Office is investigating the death of an 8-year-old boy.
Police said he appeared to be beaten to death.
Police are also investigating whether or not the boy's mother had custody of him, and if she delayed getting him medical attention.
http://www.wesh.com/news/14254008/detail.html
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01-13-2009, 09:51 AM
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Updated as of November 24, 2008
14 year old Demetrius Key Pleads No Contest in Beating Death of His 8 year old brother-
A 14 year old accused of beating his 8-year-old brother to death last year pleaded no contest to manslaughter this morning in Orange County juvenile court.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,631294.story
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