Simpson's Porn video

[William Anthony]

Did anyone see the video of Simpson with his girlfriend and another woman? It is said that a mafia boss paid Simpson a hundred grand for the video, but Simpson disconnected the video and kept the hundred grand. The talking heads are talking income tax evasion charges. I saw the video and Simpson and it appeared that Simpson and a woman were naked in the video. However, the producer admitted that the video was doctored, but maintained it was Simpson naked. The producer claimed Simpson kept the hundred grand. I saw this on Fox News last evening. I find it curious that the video and the producer made these comments at the time Vegas is laying odds on Simpson's conviction. I do not think it possible for Simpson to receive a fair trial on the new charges given the publicity on the trial and other things.

[William Anthony]

I have found a link to this video but was surprised to see that that the date of the article was June, 2006. I do not know if Fox was airing some old program on the tape. IIRC, the video was aired on Geraldo on Fox yesterday. It might have been an airing of a previously recorded show. If this is not new information, then I will contact FW and ask her to delete the thread.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I have found a link to this video but was surprised to see that that the date of the article was June, 2006. I do not know if Fox was airing some old program on the tape. IIRC, the video was aired on Geraldo on Fox yesterday. It might have been an airing of a previously recorded show. If this is not new information, then I will contact FW and ask her to delete the thread.

WILLIAM

If this is the same video i saw last year, the skinny on that was that oj was asked to come to the room. he was taped comming into the room. when he saw the naked women in the room he left, and a oj look alike was then taped
on a bed with the woman. It was suggested that the video of oj comming in the room was aded to the one with the look alike in the bed but from the one i saw, the face of the look alike on the bed was not shown so it was difficult to say it was oj on the bed.

martin II

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by martin II

WILLIAM

If this is the same video i saw last year, the skinny on that was that oj was asked to come to the room. he was taped comming into the room. when he saw the naked women in the room he left, and a oj look alike was then taped
on a bed with the woman. It was suggested that the video of oj comming in the room was aded to the one with the look alike in the bed but from the one i saw, the face of the look alike on the bed was not shown so it was difficult to say it was oj on the bed.

martin II

I honestly do not know, as I was studying and happened to catch it. There were two women in the video and it was said that one of them was his girlfriend. I have heard nothing more about the video today. I have sent Freshwater a PM to see, if this is new information. Perhaps, it is the old tape with new allegations being made and new parts being shown. I am confused also. In this version I saw, unless it was the look-alike, Simpson was naked. Simpson or the look-akike sat on the couch and talked with one of the women while the other paraded around in front of him clothed at first. I do not think he would have been stupid enough to do the same thing twice. I find it curious that Fox would air this, if it is old, at this time. I am more confused than ever. Was Simpson or the look-alike and at least one woman naked in the video you saw?

[Jayme K]

Oh my God, we're talking Simpson porn ... with apparent interest!!

WOAH!

[tv]

Originally Posted by Jayme K

Oh my God, we're talking Simpson porn ... with apparent interest!!

WOAH!

Jayme, are we talking Simpson porn or Simpson look-a-like porn? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Jayme K]

Originally Posted by tvdinner

Jayme, are we talking Simpson porn or Simpson look-a-like porn? Inquiring minds want to know.

I don't know, but the very fact that William is studying the video so indepthly gives me cause for concern!!!

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Jayme K

I don't know, but the very fact that William is studying the video so indepthly gives me cause for concern!!!

The fact that it is being reported at the time of the new incident is what causes me concern. Also, I am not studying the video but speaking of the fact, that, if this was old, why would it be brought up at this time in regard to his ability to receive a fair trial and the fact that he reportedly took money from the mob, which he was not entiltled too. I am questioning timing and the vegas connection to the new incident. I think to blindly accept facts without, at least, questioning the reasons behind and the implications of them is cause for concern. I think that you need not worry so much about what William is studying, unless you are volunteering to assist me with my school work, .

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

The fact that it is being reported at the time of the new incident is what causes me concern. Also, I am not studying the video but speaking of the fact, that, if this was old, why would it be brought up at this time in regard to his ability to receive a fair trial and the fact that he reportedly took money from the mob, which he was not entiltled too. I am questioning timing and the vegas connection to the new incident. I think to blindly accept facts without, at least, questioning the reasons behind and the implications of them is cause for concern. I think that you need not worry so much about what William is studying, unless you are volunteering to assist me with my school work, .

martin II

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by martin II

martin II

I don't know what you are cheering. The information relative to the video is quite old & definitely preceeded Orenthal's Vegas stint, hence no "tie in"

[William Anthony]

There should be no tie in, if the video is old. Then why would the media, namely Geraldo, show parts of the video and claim that there was income tax evasion on Simpson's part? I think that it becomes clear that the action of the media was designed to taint the available jury pool, even though that pool had bee previously tainted, imho. The bringing up of Simpson's alleged bad acts has the effect of harming his ability to recieve a fair trial and, with Vegas allegedly laying odds on the outcome of the new trial, there may be a financial motivation to make it arduous for Simpson to recieve a fair trial. These are the connections that I question. I think any reasonable thiniking inquisitive person would have some questions about the timing of events in this instance.

[martin II]

Geraldo has not tried to hide his bias against oj simpson.Not that he believes anything either way. He just intends to grab some rating as a result of some known attitudes in the public.
I do believe his actions have the effect of poisoning the jury pool and that is what his intentions are.It will be difficult for oj to get a fair trial if this kind of stuff continues.

martin II

[Jayme K]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

The fact that it is being reported at the time of the new incident is what causes me concern. Also, I am not studying the video but speaking of the fact, that, if this was old, why would it be brought up at this time in regard to his ability to receive a fair trial and the fact that he reportedly took money from the mob, which he was not entiltled too. I am questioning timing and the vegas connection to the new incident. I think to blindly accept facts without, at least, questioning the reasons behind and the implications of them is cause for concern. I think that you need not worry so much about what William is studying, unless you are volunteering to assist me with my school work, .

Seems to me you're questioning alot more that ... you gave us great detail of your porn investigation didn't you?

I did have to chuckle at the idea that you happen to run across the video ... you sure you didn't buy it from Big Ben off one of his special pay-per-view ads that he splashes around here?

[Jayme K]

Originally Posted by martin II

martin II

Oh martin, martin, martin ... when will you learn? I think it would be helpful to try to forumlate your own coherent post rather than riding the coat tails of someone elses.

I won't hold my breathe though.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Jayme K

Oh martin, martin, martin ... when will you learn? I think it would be helpful to try to forumlate your own coherent post rather than riding the coat tails of someone elses.

I won't hold my breathe though.

jayme
you should continue to support the post you agree with and i will agree with those that i believe are worthy of my support.

i have posted what i knew about this video when it was made public some time ago and i gave my opinion of what i remember of the video a few days ago. You are entitled to your opinion of what i posted and it does not matter to me what that is. Rather than tell me what i should be doing maby you can tell everyone when the video william speaks of was made.

imo
martin II

[Jayme K]

Originally Posted by martin II

jayme
you should continue to support the post you agree with and i will agree with those that i believe are worthy of my support.

i have posted what i knew about this video when it was made public some time ago and i gave my opinion of what i remember of the video a few days ago. You are entitled to your opinion of what i posted and it does not matter to me what that is. Rather than tell me what i should be doing maby you can tell everyone when the video william speaks of was made.

imo
martin II

Somebody needs to tell you what you should be doing since your conduct around here stinks. Next to O.J. Simpson you're the biggest hypocrite I've had the displeasure of dealing with.

The porn video was brought up before and that included the date is was made.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Jayme K

Somebody needs to tell you what you should be doing since your conduct around here stinks. Next to O.J. Simpson you're the biggest hypocrite I've had the displeasure of dealing with.

The porn video was brought up before and that included the date is was made.

what you don't seem to understand is that there is no requirement for you to 'DEAL' with me.

imo
martinII

[Jayme K]

Originally Posted by martin II

what you don't seem to understand is that there is no requirement for you to 'DEAL' with me.

imo
martinII

I do have to deal with you because you're a part of this forum, and you're constant degrading and insulting personality serves only to bring it down for other people who's conduct doesn't suck.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Jayme K

I do have to deal with you because you're a part of this forum, and you're constant degrading and insulting personality serves only to bring it down for other people who's conduct doesn't suck.

considering the agressiveness of your post it seems you are ready and seeking some kind of a fight.I have no intention of wasting my time with your nonsense.

no need to reply.

martin II

[Jayme K]

Originally Posted by martin II

considering the agressiveness of your post it seems you are ready and seeking some kind of a fight.I have no intention of wasting my time with your nonsense.

no need to reply.

martin II

You already did decide to waste your time with this very post.

To quote you: HAHAHA

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by martin II

*snip*
Geraldo has not tried to hide his bias against oj simpson.Not that he believes anything either way.

What on earth does this mean? He's biased but doesn't "believe anything either way"?

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Jayme K

Seems to me you're questioning alot more that ... you gave us great detail of your porn investigation didn't you?

I did have to chuckle at the idea that you happen to run across the video ... you sure you didn't buy it from Big Ben off one of his special pay-per-view ads that he splashes around here?

This was my original post.

Did anyone see the video of Simpson with his girlfriend and another woman? It is said that a mafia boss paid Simpson a hundred grand for the video, but Simpson disconnected the video and kept the hundred grand. The talking heads are talking income tax evasion charges. I saw the video and Simpson and it appeared that Simpson and a woman were naked in the video. However, the producer admitted that the video was doctored, but maintained it was Simpson naked. The producer claimed Simpson kept the hundred grand. I saw this on Fox News last evening. I find it curious that the video and the producer made these comments at the time Vegas is laying odds on Simpson's conviction. I do not think it possible for Simpson to receive a fair trial on the new charges given the publicity on the trial and other things.

This was my second post.

I have found a link to this video but was surprised to see that that the date of the article was June, 2006. I do not know if Fox was airing some old program on the tape. IIRC, the video was aired on Geraldo on Fox yesterday. It might have been an airing of a previously recorded show. If this is not new information, then I will contact FW and ask her to delete the thread.

As I have stated, if the video was old and had been discused, I asked Freshwater to delete the thread. Since it was not deleted, I think that there was some merrit to the thread and the context in which I questioned the video.

You seem to imply that I am lieing and Fox did not run parts of the video. You also have accused Big Ben of dealing in porn, imho. You then went on to criticize Maritn for riding someone's coat-tail and you did the same thing on another thread in regard to a post by tvdinner. I think that you are here only to insult those who do not agree with your opinions. Perhaps, I am wrong and you will show me that I am wrong. However, you are not required to show me anything. I do believe that you are to follow the rules by not insulting people or making personal attacks. Have you bought any pay per view porn that you say Big Ben splashes around here? I think that you must have in order to ask me whether I bought porn from Big Ben, and, if you have no knowledge that he sells such items, I think you owe him and me an apology, since I have never bought anything from him nor did I pay for any pay per view items that he allegedly splashed around here.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

This was my original post.

Did anyone see the video of Simpson with his girlfriend and another woman? It is said that a mafia boss paid Simpson a hundred grand for the video, but Simpson disconnected the video and kept the hundred grand. The talking heads are talking income tax evasion charges. I saw the video and Simpson and it appeared that Simpson and a woman were naked in the video. However, the producer admitted that the video was doctored, but maintained it was Simpson naked. The producer claimed Simpson kept the hundred grand. I saw this on Fox News last evening. I find it curious that the video and the producer made these comments at the time Vegas is laying odds on Simpson's conviction. I do not think it possible for Simpson to receive a fair trial on the new charges given the publicity on the trial and other things.

This was my second post.

I have found a link to this video but was surprised to see that that the date of the article was June, 2006. I do not know if Fox was airing some old program on the tape. IIRC, the video was aired on Geraldo on Fox yesterday. It might have been an airing of a previously recorded show. If this is not new information, then I will contact FW and ask her to delete the thread.

As I have stated, if the video was old and had been discused, I asked Freshwater to delete the thread. Since it was not deleted, I think that there was some merrit to the thread and the context in which I questioned the video.

You seem to imply that I am lieing and Fox did not run parts of the video. You also have accused Big Ben of dealing in porn, imho. You then went on to criticize Maritn for riding someone's coat-tail and you did the same thing on another thread in regard to a post by tvdinner. I think that you are here only to insult those who do not agree with your opinions. Perhaps, I am wrong and you will show me that I am wrong. However, you are not required to show me anything. I do believe that you are to follow the rules by not insulting people or making personal attacks. Have you bought any pay per view porn that you say Big Ben splashes around here? I think that you must have in order to ask me whether I bought porn from Big Ben, and, if you have no knowledge that he sells such items, I think you owe him and me an apology, since I have never bought anything from him nor did I pay for any pay per view items that he allegedly splashed around here.

martinii

[Heyes]

So the bottom line is.......
simpson agrees to do porn for profit, takes the money and doesn't deliver. geeeeeez!
I also saw on geraldo that it shows him and his girlfriends doing drugs too!
No big suprise there.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Heyes

So the bottom line is.......
simpson agrees to do porn for profit, takes the money and doesn't deliver. geeeeeez!
I also saw on geraldo that it shows him and his girlfriends doing drugs too!
No big suprise there.

When the video first came out it was clained that oj was not in fact naked in bed but that a look alike was used. I posted what i remember from the story but you can google it and maby you will find the truth about the video.

martin II

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Heyes

So the bottom line is.......
simpson agrees to do porn for profit, takes the money and doesn't deliver. geeeeeez!
I also saw on geraldo that it shows him and his girlfriends doing drugs too!
No big suprise there.

this may help you if you are interested in the video.


http://concreteloop.com/2006/06/oj-simpson-sex-tape

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Heyes

So the bottom line is.......
simpson agrees to do porn for profit, takes the money and doesn't deliver. geeeeeez!
I also saw on geraldo that it shows him and his girlfriends doing drugs too!
No big suprise there.

When did you see the video on Geraldo? Are you sure you did not buy it from some porn peddler?

[Heyes]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

When did you see the video on Geraldo? Are you sure you did not buy it from some porn peddler?

Yeah william, I'm sure.

[William Anthony]

I need to apolgize for falling into an irrelevant discussion, which had nothing to do with the original intent of the thread, which was to question the reshowing of the video at the time in connection with Simpson's ability to receive a fair trial. However, the comments do show that people are more interested in discussing things that he has not yet been charged with such as theft from the mafia and taking drugs, rather than discussing the events, leading up to his arrest and his ability to receive a fair trial. Judging from some of the comments, I remain convinced that it will be arduous, if not impossible for him to receive a fair trial.

[Heyes]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I need to apolgize for falling into an irrelevant discussion, which had nothing to do with the original intent of the thread, which was to question the reshowing of the video at the time in connection with Simpson's ability to receive a fair trial. However, the comments do show that people are more interested in discussing things that he has not yet been charged with such as theft from the mafia and taking drugs, rather than discussing the events, leading up to his arrest and his ability to receive a fair trial. Judging from some of the comments, I remain convinced that it will be arduous, if not impossible for him to receive a fair trial.

How can we discuss if he will get a fair trial because these types of tapes being shown without discussing the tapes themselves?
You brought up the porn. ( and his nakedness, ew)
Now that the drug use was brought up you don't wanna play no more??

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Heyes

How can we discuss if he will get a fair trial because these types of tapes being shown without discussing the tapes themselves?
You brought up the porn. ( and his nakedness, ew)
Now that the drug use was brought up you don't wanna play no more??

What I brought up were questions about the tapes in regard to why the media would air them and the accusations surrounding them at the time when he was facing new charges. The new charges have nothing to do with the alleged porn video or his alleged drug use. I am pleased to see that it was only aired on the alleged fair and balanced network. Do you question the fact that the tape was aired in connection with his ability to receive a fair trial, or are you interested in seeing that the trial is anything but fair by bringing up what was on the tape rather than discussing why Fox aired the tape and the accusations at that particular time? yes, I mentioned what was in the tape to see if any other members had seen it-identification that's all.

[Jayme K]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

This was my original post.

Did anyone see the video of Simpson with his girlfriend and another woman? It is said that a mafia boss paid Simpson a hundred grand for the video, but Simpson disconnected the video and kept the hundred grand. The talking heads are talking income tax evasion charges. I saw the video and Simpson and it appeared that Simpson and a woman were naked in the video. However, the producer admitted that the video was doctored, but maintained it was Simpson naked. The producer claimed Simpson kept the hundred grand. I saw this on Fox News last evening. I find it curious that the video and the producer made these comments at the time Vegas is laying odds on Simpson's conviction. I do not think it possible for Simpson to receive a fair trial on the new charges given the publicity on the trial and other things.

This was my second post.

I have found a link to this video but was surprised to see that that the date of the article was June, 2006. I do not know if Fox was airing some old program on the tape. IIRC, the video was aired on Geraldo on Fox yesterday. It might have been an airing of a previously recorded show. If this is not new information, then I will contact FW and ask her to delete the thread.

As I have stated, if the video was old and had been discused, I asked Freshwater to delete the thread. Since it was not deleted, I think that there was some merrit to the thread and the context in which I questioned the video.

You seem to imply that I am lieing and Fox did not run parts of the video. You also have accused Big Ben of dealing in porn, imho. You then went on to criticize Maritn for riding someone's coat-tail and you did the same thing on another thread in regard to a post by tvdinner. I think that you are here only to insult those who do not agree with your opinions. Perhaps, I am wrong and you will show me that I am wrong. However, you are not required to show me anything. I do believe that you are to follow the rules by not insulting people or making personal attacks. Have you bought any pay per view porn that you say Big Ben splashes around here? I think that you must have in order to ask me whether I bought porn from Big Ben, and, if you have no knowledge that he sells such items, I think you owe him and me an apology, since I have never bought anything from him nor did I pay for any pay per view items that he allegedly splashed around here.

I've noticd this alot about you William. You take cheap shots and make comments that border on racism against whites but expect that everyone owes you an apology. What's with that? I've also noticed that a favorite of yours is to say inapporiate things but when you're called out on them you try to say you meant something else.

If you've studied the video then technically you yourself deal in porn by watching it and yet you expect that I apologize to you or Big Ben? Are you embarassed? Porn is legal in this country William and nothing to be ashamed of - well, except maybe if it's O.J. that you're watching.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Jayme K

I've noticd this alot about you William. You take cheap shots and make comments that border on racism against whites but expect that everyone owes you an apology. What's with that? I've also noticed that a favorite of yours is to say inapporiate things but when you're called out on them you try to say you meant something else.

If you've studied the video then technically you yourself deal in porn by watching it and yet you expect that I apologize to you or Big Ben? Are you embarassed? Porn is legal in this country William and nothing to be ashamed of - well, except maybe if it's O.J. that you're watching.

First, let me say this, there was a time when I responded in kind and was penalized for my remarks. However, I have learned and righly so, because of my chosen career path, that responding in kind does not serve my purpose.

Second, I do not take cheap shots, whatever that may mean to you, at anyone, although I do make comments on what I consider to be inappropriate posts. There may be things that I have done that I am ashamed of but watching porn is not one of them.

Third, I am not responsible for how others interpret my posts. What I try to do is explain what I meant in the posts. You or anyone else are entitled to disregard my explanation. However, unless you or anyone else occupied a space in my brain when I posted the comment, I do not think you have the right to say what I meant.

Fourth, You obviously continually disregard my original post that started this thread, which I think makes it clear that I was not "studying" the video but happened to catch what was aired on Geraldo while I was "studying" my schoolwork. As I said you are entitled to disregard anything but I do not think that you are entitled to imply that I was lieing.

Fifth, You also made some unfavorable comments about me and another poster. I could say a lot about the way you post. However, I have learned that does not serve me well. I could call the remarks you made about Big Ben, Martin and me in that post cheap shots. However, I chose to request an apology from you, which you have not felt obligated to render. Instead, you chose to respond with what you noticed about me. I am not opposed to discussing racism at anytime with anyone. I do not understand how you say that my comments border on racism against Whites. My comments are what they are and your intepretation is yours. I think, if I said inappropriate things, the moderator, as she has done in the past, would penalize me for the remarks.

Sixth, I do not expect that everyone owes me an apology, as I realize that some are not prone to apologies. Requesting and expecting to receive one is an entirely different thing. There have been some that chose to show courtesy and apologize and others who have chosen not to. Rest assured that I will continue unharmed whether or not my request is granted. I have no problem when I think an apology from me is clearly needed and I have apologized in the past and one is need now, because I confused heyes with a post that you made. I apologize to heyes and realize that everyone does not share my values.

[kjb19500]

Having served on two juries, I think one thing you have to keep in mind is that those of us who serve in this capacity take our jobs pretty damned seriously. I for one want the facts, not a bunch of technical hocus-pocus and theatrics from either side of the bench. I hate the feeling of being manipulated by anyone.

Simpson haters are going to look at the videos and say "so what else is new? This is totally in character for the man." His supporters are going to say it's not Simpson, it's a stand-in." Who knows, who cares?

If Simpson doesn't think he can find an "untainted" jury that will fairly decide the issues of the case, I suppose he can ask for a bench trial and let the judge decide.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by kjb19500

If Simpson doesn't think he can find an "untainted" jury that will fairly decide the issues of the case, I suppose he can ask for a bench trial and let the judge decide.

That is one of his options. However, I think the courts have decided that an accused has a right to a fair trial by an impartial jury of his peers. I do not think that an accused should be forced to accept a bench trial, because the jury pool has been so tainted that he could not receive a fair trial by an impartial jury. I think our rights should not be so easily excused.

[tv]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

That is one of his options. However, I think the courts have decided that an accused has a right to a fair trial by an impartial jury of his peers. I do not think that an accused should be forced to accept a bench trial, because the jury pool has been so tainted that he could not receive a fair trial by an impartial jury. I think our rights should not be so easily excused.

William, the genie is out of the bottle so to speak on media coverage. What's your solution to his receiving a fair jury trial?

[kjb19500]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

That is one of his options. However, I think the courts have decided that an accused has a right to a fair trial by an impartial jury of his peers. I do not think that an accused should be forced to accept a bench trial, because the jury pool has been so tainted that he could not receive a fair trial by an impartial jury. I think our rights should not be so easily excused.

I note in reading almost every current article on these boards (especially by David Lohr) that the accused is already assumed guilty. As long as the media and places like this have free rein the possibility of tainted jury pools has to be taken in consideration not just for Simpson but for everyone arrested and accused of committing a crime, so I completely agree with your final though that "our rights should not be so easily excused."

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by kjb19500

I note in reading almost every current article on these boards (especially by David Lohr) that the accused is already assumed guilty. As long as the media and places like this have free rein the possibility of tainted jury pools has to be taken in consideration not just for Simpson but for everyone arrested and accused of committing a crime, so I completely agree with your final though that "our rights should not be so easily excused."

That is why I questioned the recent airing of the video. Thank you very much for understanding.

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by Heyes

So the bottom line is.......
simpson agrees to do porn for profit, takes the money and doesn't deliver. geeeeeez!
I also saw on geraldo that it shows him and his girlfriends doing drugs too!
No big suprise there.

It appears there's no end to his debauchery.

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by Jayme K

I've noticd this alot about you William. You take cheap shots and make comments that border on racism against whites but expect that everyone owes you an apology. What's with that? I've also noticed that a favorite of yours is to say inapporiate things but when you're called out on them you try to say you meant something else.

If you've studied the video then technically you yourself deal in porn by watching it and yet you expect that I apologize to you or Big Ben? Are you embarassed? Porn is legal in this country William and nothing to be ashamed of - well, except maybe if it's O.J. that you're watching.