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The Jena Six An incredible story about racism and justice in the American South. Should the Jena Six be put away for 20 years or more?

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Old 09-17-2007, 07:55 AM
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Media bias/political correctness

Funny how this case is getting more national attention than the murder/rape cases of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom whom are DEAD and MURDERED. What is the difference? These victims were white so we don’t have the likes of Jesse cash grab Jackson and Al you be a racist Sharpton out there talking about racism and brining national attention. Channon Christian was beaten, gang raped for days, the scum bags even took turns urinating on her, she had her breasts cut off and had chemicals put in her mouth before she was finally dumped in a trash can! Christopher Newsom was beaten, had his penis cut off and was set on fire!

The alleged offenders were black, so the liberal media has ignored the case because of their political correctness and not wanting to offend people.

Why does the case of Jena Six get national attention, but this case which is far more serious get NONE?

I know the answer. This case of the Jena 6 is FAR MORE easy to cover, than the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom case. The liberal media is biased. And they are politically correct.
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Funny how this case is getting more national attention than the murder/rape cases of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom whom are DEAD and MURDERED. What is the difference? These victims were white so we don’t have the likes of Jesse cash grab Jackson and Al you be a racist Sharpton out there talking about racism and brining national attention. Channon Christian was beaten, gang raped for days, the scum bags even took turns urinating on her, she had her breasts cut off and had chemicals put in her mouth before she was finally dumped in a trash can! Christopher Newsom was beaten, had his penis cut off and was set on fire!

The alleged offenders were black, so the liberal media has ignored the case because of their political correctness and not wanting to offend people.

Why does the case of Jena Six get national attention, but this case which is far more serious get NONE?

I know the answer. This case of the Jena 6 is FAR MORE easy to cover, than the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom case. The liberal media is biased. And they are politically correct.
There is a thread re: Christian and Newsom and you are comparing apples to oranges. The savage murderers in this case have been arrrested and have not yet been brought to trial and I do believe it will get more attention at that time. I also believe the savages in this case will get what they deserve and hopefully then some. The difference is justice will be served in this case. And just for the record I refer to them as "savages" because of the nature of the crime, not their race. A similar incident just happened in W VA where six white people raped and brutally tortured a young black woman, Megan Williams only she lived to tell about it through sheer luck. Federal hate charges will not be filed due the fact that the state's charges carry stiffer penalties and I would think the same would apply to the Christian-Newsom murders. I'd also like to point out that the suspects in the Christian-Newsom case received $1M bonds and rightfully so, while the suspects in the Williams case with violent criminal past histories only received $100,000 bond. Do you see any differences here? JMO

Having said that you are comparing apples to oranges. The issue in the Jena 6 is the unequitable charges and injustice and six students received because of a biased DA and a town that stood by and said nothing.

Pehaps you should become acquainted with the Jena 6 case before making comparisons.

All of the above is IMO.
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Also just wanted to point out one additional issue.

If you notice the bonds set above; take this into consideration. The Logan 6 have $100K bond for kidnapping, rape and attempted murder, etc.

Mychal Bells has $90K bond set. Explain this one to me. I believe it is very clear.
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Levi, you are just now realizing that the media is biased? They are biased all over. Why do you think prostitutes are good targets? The media doesn't care to report on them, they would rather report on rich people getting murdered. Sells more.
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Levi, you are just now realizing that the media is biased? They are biased all over. Why do you think prostitutes are good targets? The media doesn't care to report on them, they would rather report on rich people getting murdered. Sells more.
IMO, murders are more newsworthy than prostitutes.
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Funny how this case is getting more national attention than the murder/rape cases of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom whom are DEAD and MURDERED. What is the difference? These victims were white so we don’t have the likes of Jesse cash grab Jackson and Al you be a racist Sharpton out there talking about racism and brining national attention. Channon Christian was beaten, gang raped for days, the scum bags even took turns urinating on her, she had her breasts cut off and had chemicals put in her mouth before she was finally dumped in a trash can! Christopher Newsom was beaten, had his penis cut off and was set on fire!

The alleged offenders were black, so the liberal media has ignored the case because of their political correctness and not wanting to offend people.

Why does the case of Jena Six get national attention, but this case which is far more serious get NONE?

I know the answer. This case of the Jena 6 is FAR MORE easy to cover, than the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom case. The liberal media is biased. And they are politically correct.
I must agree. There is no other reason besides money, of course, for the media leaving out so much information on this case.
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There is a thread re: Christian and Newsom and you are comparing apples to oranges. The savage murderers in this case have been arrrested and have not yet been brought to trial and I do believe it will get more attention at that time. I also believe the savages in this case will get what they deserve and hopefully then some. The difference is justice will be served in this case. And just for the record I refer to them as "savages" because of the nature of the crime, not their race. A similar incident just happened in W VA where six white people raped and brutally tortured a young black woman, Megan Williams only she lived to tell about it through sheer luck. Federal hate charges will not be filed due the fact that the state's charges carry stiffer penalties and I would think the same would apply to the Christian-Newsom murders. I'd also like to point out that the suspects in the Christian-Newsom case received $1M bonds and rightfully so, while the suspects in the Williams case with violent criminal past histories only received $100,000 bond. Do you see any differences here? JMO

Having said that you are comparing apples to oranges. The issue in the Jena 6 is the unequitable charges and injustice and six students received because of a biased DA and a town that stood by and said nothing.

Pehaps you should become acquainted with the Jena 6 case before making comparisons.

All of the above is IMO.
That isn't addressing the issue. I'm asking why is the media is covering a case where blacks are possibly the victims of racism when some believe that the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom were victims of a racially motivated HATE CRIME. The difference is that the victims in one case are white.

It is politically incorrect when a white person is the victim of racism and the national media has given this case NO AIR time, but the Jena 6 is all over the national news. Why?

The answer is obvious political correctness.
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That isn't addressing the issue. I'm asking why is the media is covering a case where blacks are possibly the victims of racism when some believe that the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom were victims of a racially motivated HATE CRIME. The difference is that the victims in one case are white.

It is politically incorrect when a white person is the victim of racism and the national media has given this case NO AIR time, but the Jena 6 is all over the national news. Why?

The answer is obvious political correctness.
I'm sorry Levi, but IMO you are missing the point. The Jena 6 goes beyond racism. Is justice being done in the Christian-Newsom case? Have the suspects been arrested and charged and in jail? Are they being hit with charges with punishment that fits the crime? I believe the answers are yes. If they were not then I would expect every American to call for justice; however, as far as I can see it is not necessary. It is being done.

You are also incorrect in saying that the Jena 6 has received alot of media attention. This has been going on in Jena for close to two years; it was the severe punishment circulated via email; black radio talk show hosts and word of mouth that drew attention to this case - it certainly was not due to media reports. This is exactly how the Christian-Newsome crime spread however as far as I can see justice is being served.

You also don't know that the Christian-Newsom case was a legal hate crime although if it is it will come out during the trial. Even if it were I sure hope you would want the state's charges to be brought rather than the federal hate charge. The federal hate charge only carries a MAX of 10 years whereas what these savages did the state's charges would carry life imprisonment without parole or possibly the death penalty. It certainly has NOTHING to do with politcal correctness and the Jena 6 is NOT being considered a hate crime.

The Jena 6 case represents INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM and students that were charged with crimes where the punishment far exceeds what their crime was based on the color of their skin.

This case is about two systems of justice that are meted out every day unfairly against blacks in the US. A justice system that is supposed to be color-blind however has proven not to be color-blind. MOO
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Institutionalized Racism:

What is institutional racism?
"The collective failure of an organisation to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture or ethnic origin which can be seen or detected in processes; attitudes and behaviour which amount to discrimination through unwitting prejudice, ignorance, thoughtlessness and racist stereotyping which disadvantages minority ethnic people."
~From the Macpherson Report

Excellent report on Institutionalized Racism:
Using the concepts we've just defined I can offer a definition of racism. Racism is a caste system of hierarchically ordered races that uses economic, political, kinship, and especially cultural practices to maintain the separation and hierarchy of races.
This instructional is about institutional racism in North America.

http://www.zmag.org/racewatch/znet_r...ructional3.htm

INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM
Institutionalised racism is an indirect and largely invisible process which can be compared with cloning and the glass ceiling. It is a term encompassing the, often unintentional, barriers and selection/promotion procedures which serve to disadvantage members of ethnic minority groups.

http://www.hrmguide.net/hrm/racism.html

Violence Aside, Racism May Be Harmful to Our Health
In 1990 a 15-year-old African-American male in Harlem had a 37 percent chance of surviving to age 65. The shorter life expectancy of this black child compared with his poor white neighbor on the Lower East Side--who had a 70 percent chance of survival to the same age--has traditionally been blamed on genetics and the effects of poverty.
But what if there were another player in the game? A character that stalks the health of African Americans no matter where they live, what their income or education levels are, or how many drinks or cigarettes they have. A character that wears many masks, including that of poverty. Researchers at the Harvard School of Public Health believe that such a beast exists. Its name is racism.
When people who have been subjected to racial prejudice and discrimination begin to doubt their own worth and ability, Jones says, they become victims of internalized racism. "The stigmatized people become hopeless and helpless, and those things can impact on health."

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Levi, in some way I do agree with your point but I think you are posting in the wrong place.

The two incidents you are trying to compare are two completely different things. I agree with Athena that this case is based on institutional racism and the whole Christian-Newsom case is something different. If you wanted to compare it to anything I would suggest airing your greviences in the Logan County 6 message board, that seems like more of a straight comparison.

And, I also agree with Athena that I wouldn't have known about this case if someone I work with hadn't heard about this on the radio and could only describe it as a case with a "white people tree" - I did some investigating and ended up here.

However, that being said, I do agree that there should have been/should be more media coverage of the Christian-Newsom case. I'm surprised it is hidden. This is another case I wouldn't have heard about unless I had been reading this site.
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Levi, in some way I do agree with your point but I think you are posting in the wrong place.

The two incidents you are trying to compare are two completely different things. I agree with Athena that this case is based on institutional racism and the whole Christian-Newsom case is something different. If you wanted to compare it to anything I would suggest airing your greviences in the Logan County 6 message board, that seems like more of a straight comparison.

And, I also agree with Athena that I wouldn't have known about this case if someone I work with hadn't heard about this on the radio and could only describe it as a case with a "white people tree" - I did some investigating and ended up here.

However, that being said, I do agree that there should have been/should be more media coverage of the Christian-Newsom case. I'm surprised it is hidden. This is another case I wouldn't have heard about unless I had been reading this site.
I think, or at least I hope, that as the trial nears there will be more coverage. This was a heinous and horrific act but I think because the perps have been arrested, are in jail with $1M bond until the trial starts there is no news to be covered right now and it won't sell papers. I personally have written letters to the major news stations re: the little coverage I had heard but it was after they had all been arrested and charged. Perhaps if more of us do that by the time the trial starts (I believe it is 5/08) more attention will be brought to it not just because of race though but because of the sheer brutality of the attack. I'm not sure at this point if the crime was motivated by race -- but should come out during the trial. The state charges carry stiffer penalties and recently Tenn just executed its first criminal since 1960 via death penalty so it may open the possibility of that happening here as well. I'm not for the death penalty but this is one case I can put my personal beliefs to the side for. JMO
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I think, or at least I hope, that as the trial nears there will be more coverage. This was a heinous and horrific act but I think because the perps have been arrested, are in jail with $1M bond until the trial starts there is no news to be covered right now and it won't sell papers. I personally have written letters to the major news stations re: the little coverage I had heard but it was after they had all been arrested and charged. Perhaps if more of us do that by the time the trial starts (I believe it is 5/08) more attention will be brought to it not just because of race though but because of the sheer brutality of the attack. I'm not sure at this point if the crime was motivated by race -- but should come out during the trial. The state charges carry stiffer penalties and recently Tenn just executed its first criminal since 1960 via death penalty so it may open the possibility of that happening here as well. I'm not for the death penalty but this is one case I can put my personal beliefs to the side for. JMO

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you are correct on these issue IMO.Pulgal77, The Christian and Newsom and Logan 6 are totally different.You are right on that.
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