From the Experts~

[TuscanDreams]

Let's use this thread to dissimenate (can't spell-too early) the information from the experts.

Here's a take from Dr. Baden. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296497,00.html

The latest developments came as Dr. Michael Baden, a world-reknowned forensic expert with the New York State Police, told The Times of London that a decaying body would produce a “mass of material” unless it was tightly wrapped.

Baden, who has investigated hundreds of child murders, said: “In a body which had been decaying for 25 days you would expect to find a mass of material unless the body was tightly wrapped. But if it was so tightly wrapped, how was the hair able to escape?”

[TuscanDreams]

I've only seen this expert speaking out, has anyone found others? I don't exactly agree with Baden in many cases, so if more info is out there, please post it!

[Athena]

How about we make the thread about unsubstantiated reports instead of just forensics?


UK police deny McCann request claim
11 hours ago

Speculation is mounting that prosecutors in the Madeleine McCann case want to secure more items from the family as they continue to hunt for evidence against them.

There are claims that British police are preparing to seek possessions from Kate and Gerry McCann, on behalf of the Portuguese authorities, though the force in their home county, Leicestershire, has said it is not aware of any such request.

http://ukpress.google.com/article/AL...1KjUH8uHu75jvg

[Athena]

Forensic tests conducted at a government laboratory in Britain found evidence indicating that DNA from Madeleine was in the trunk of a car the parents used while remaining for months in Portugal's Algarve region, Justine McGuinness, a spokesperson for the family, said last week.

However, Portugal's national police chief, Alipio Ribeiro, said on Monday that the forensic tests on the car were not conclusive and that he expected the investigation to continue.

http://www.24.com/news/?p=tsa&i=672484

[TuscanDreams]

Great idea, unsubstantiated reports it is. I'll try to find some later, there have to be tons of this type of thing.

[Athena]

Madeleine: ' Why such flaky evidence could never lead to a conviction in a British court'
The key pieces of evidence that Portuguese police want to investigate
Last updated at 00:21am on 14th September 2007

The forensic evidence against Kate and Gerry McCann is 'flaky' and would never secure a conviction in a British court, according to a police source.

The source said: "The forensic evidence the Portuguese have is very flaky. The preservation of the crime scenes carried out by the Portuguese police was very poor - every man and his dog has been to the crime scene at the apartment, and used the McCanns' hire car.

"It means it's very hard to pin down where any fluids or other sources of DNA came from in the first place. And as for Madeleine's hair being found in the hire car - well, of course it could be. Hair stays around for ages, and sticks to clothes. So Madeleine's hair has been found in the boot? So what?"

The comments follow an offer from Sir Alec Jeffreys, the inventor of DNA fingerprinting, to act as an expert witness for the McCanns.

The source added: "There have been claims that analysis of the hair could show whether Madeleine had been drugged on the night she disappeared, to support suggestions she could have died after being heavily sedated.

"That won't happen. Toxicology tests could show what, if any, drugs or medicines she consumed over several months or years, but not on one specific night.

"I don't think any of this evidence will end up in court. I really don't think the McCanns could end up in jail as a result of this evidence, under any fair judicial process."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811

[Eagle1]

Originally Posted by Athena

Madeleine: ' Why such flaky evidence could never lead to a conviction in a British court'
The key pieces of evidence that Portuguese police want to investigate
Last updated at 00:21am on 14th September 2007..........

The source said: "The forensic evidence the Portuguese have is very flaky. The preservation of the crime scenes carried out by the Portuguese police was very poor - every man and his dog has been to the crime scene at the apartment, and used the McCanns' hire car.

"It means it's very hard to pin down where any fluids or other sources of DNA came from in the first place. And as for Madeleine's hair being found in the hire car - well, of course it could be. Hair stays around for ages, and sticks to clothes. So Madeleine's hair has been found in the boot? So what?"

Toxicology tests could show what, if any, drugs or medicines she consumed over several months or years, but not on one specific night.

"I don't think any of this evidence will end up in court. I really don't think the McCanns could end up in jail as a result of this evidence, under any fair judicial process."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811

Besides the forensics not being enough, there's also too many alleged sightings.

Shouldn't they get a forensic artist to do a sketch of the man at the gas station? He was probably just one of several who've had Maddie. Another question, is that woman pictured with a child and a man, looking at the camera, supposed to be the "middled-aged, about 60" woman?

One of the child pictures in this thread does show the child's face as heart-shaped like Maddie's, and we know from family pictures that Maddie wore that kind of sandals, by some strange coincidence, tho' Tanner's composite showed that child barefoot, and even the pink tank top happens to be pretty characteristic of Kate and Maddie in their family photo's we've seen.

[Eagle1]

I have to admit, that child on the woman's back is so similar but not exactly Maddie.

Since Odette posted that the woman witness seeing the woman on another occasion get into a taxi has received an anonymous death threat, probably from the mafia, am I the only one thinking the official claiming Maddie's not there is also afraid of this mafia? And also protecting their tourism, maybe.

The 24 yr old witness must be pretty soft-spoken. Rough-talking women tend not to attract stalkers. I don't remember if I've ever mentioned that I "may" have one, who's interfered with peoples' medical treatments, such a skilled liar sociopath, got meds withdrawn and they died. There's no hiding anything from that type, including where I am. I've found the best way is to say in advance when meeting any new care givers I'll be seeing again that I have a "following" who think classical music is pretentious, blah, blah, blah, so they'll be forearmed. That seems to work. Like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz saying I've got a witch after me.

You don't know stalkers if you think your location and identity can be kept secret. I admire the woman trying to get into the taxi with the woman and child, and hope by reporting the death threat she can get it investigated in spite of that official, even if maybe it's not Maddie.

But she said she saw the eye defect. We don't have a picture of this child, remember. It's the one on the old woman's back, a different child, that we have a pic of. This might really be Maddie, right?

[Eagle1]

I for one tend to believe the witness who said she saw the eye defect, and the one who heard the child with a couple who was loudly crying "I want my daddy!"

So, could there be a reason for gov't coverup, by always coming up with a similar child, destroying that child's privacy by naming them and claiming they're the ones the witnesses really saw? I've raised the question in its own thread about a new "Common Purpose" gov't thing, and hope someone else knows something about it and possibly a Gerry connection. Surely not, but no stone should be left unturned, if if if it's rumored to be something corrupt. If we have posters living in England maybe they can supply something about that.