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View Poll Results: Should there be a limit on the amount of smileys used in a post?
No limit 18 29.51%
3 per post 30 49.18%
4 per post 3 4.92%
5 per post 1 1.64%
The amount should stay the same 9 14.75%
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:32 PM
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Final Decision: Should there be a limit on the amount of smileys used in a post?

Right now there is a limit of 12 or 13 smileys per post. Should there be a limit on the number used?
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Yes cause when a whole row of smilies and no words are used time and time again it isnt really necessary and sometimes is only used to try and agitate other posters. I do realise for some people they could have problems putting what they mean to say but it is meant to be a discussion board jmo
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Yes cause when a whole row of smilies and no words are used time and time again it isnt really necessary and sometimes is only used to try and agitate other posters. I do realise for some people they could have problems putting what they mean to say but it is meant to be a discussion board jmo


I agree. It adds nothing to the discussion.
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Wow, glad I found this poll! IMO, there is nothing to be gained by a row of clicking beer mugs!! I mean a row that stretches across the entire post! If the intent is to show agreement, then the intentions are lost by the sheer
"in your face" attitude that is attached.

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I agree. I voted three. I think that's plenty to add "drama" or "emphasis" and some uniqueness to what you are expressing.

Anything else is just annoying, distracting, and quite honestly kinda immature.

I think it would be easier to maintain civility because the excessive emoticons are anything but intended as civil. And, it seems when they are excessive that the ones doing so are not adding much to the conversation in the first place.

Good idea and it won't kill any of us to be limited to three.

Great poll!!!
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Wow, glad I found this poll! IMO, there is nothing to be gained by a row of clicking beer mugs!! I mean a row that stretches across the entire post! If the intent is to show agreement, then the intentions are lost by the sheer
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It's extremely irritating and adds nothing to the discussion.
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Wow, glad I found this poll! IMO, there is nothing to be gained by a row of clicking beer mugs!! I mean a row that stretches across the entire post! If the intent is to show agreement, then the intentions are lost by the sheer
"in your face" attitude that is attached.

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That's been my signal to skip over it and not bother reading it. Of course there tends to be little to read.
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If anyone uses more than 12 regularly, I just ignore them.
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If anyone uses more than 12 regularly, I just ignore them.


The problem is even if you put them on ignore someone quotes them and it really is annoying when 90% of their posts is nothing but a long line of smileys.
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The problem is even if you put them on ignore someone quotes them and it really is annoying when 90% of their posts is nothing but a long line of smileys.
I thought posters could turn smileys off.:hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat:
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I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL
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My gosh, is this really an issue? People just crack me up.
I do believe that, these are serious issues that involve jealousy & the need to control others. Sarcasm, rudeness, constant harassment & insults, are by far worse than using icons. Unfortunately, those things can't be disabled on the computer. Read my signature line, & you'll know what I'm mean. From now on, I won't reply with quotes, so that you can disable your smilies. It's a good idea, if others would do likewise. That way, no one has to see those icons, if they don't choose to do so. Total lack of respect for others & their rights, is also far more annoying than any number of icons. IMO
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If an avatar truly "offends" you, please "remember" that you do have the "option" to use the very convenient "feature" on this board that allows, "do not show avatars".

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Limited, yes. Some use the icons simply as visual derailment.
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I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL
I think that's hilarious too, cham! Too funny! It's a good thing there isn't a poll about rudeness. Rudeness constitutes disrespecting others, & their rights to their opinions. That being said, have a nice day everyone. I'm waving to you all, but, you can't see it because, I haven't used my icons, as this is from a quotation. IMO
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If an avatar truly "offends" you, please "remember" that you do have the "option" to use the very convenient "feature" on this board that allows, "do not show avatars".

The "FOCUS" is on Howard, because, that is exactly where it belongs.

Life is much too short to acknowledge people who are rude, sarcastic or "uncivil". Responding to "baiting" is a complete "waste of time", & certainly not worth mine.
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Limited, yes. Some use the icons simply as visual derailment.
That is not my intention, and I've stated numerous times, why, I like to use them. Rudeness, sarcasm, & disrespecting others & their rights to their opinions, is most definitely & obviously "derailment". IMO
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If an avatar truly "offends" you, please "remember" that you do have the "option" to use the very convenient "feature" on this board that allows, "do not show avatars".

The "FOCUS" is on Howard, because, that is exactly where it belongs.

Life is much too short to acknowledge people who are rude, sarcastic or "uncivil". Responding to "baiting" is a complete "waste of time", & certainly not worth mine.
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I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL
That's interesting. Are they still posting at CTV? I don't see any restrictions over there now.........


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I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL
I find this poll fascinating as well. All the voters from one particular forum, including a moderator, and there is only one poster in that particular forum that can possibly be accused of the "overuse of icons" complaint. Interesting.

Is this a "gang" thing? Do the other forums on this board have this problem, or is this just about one poster on one forum?

I see many votes on here for the "3 icon maximum", just like CTV. If I wanted to post on a forum "Just like CTV", I'd go there. I like this one better.

I'm not voting. I will not participate in a "gang" vote to single out one particular poster. Suffice it to say that I like the way things are here and would not change a thing.

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I'm not voting. I will not participate in a "gang" vote to single out one particular poster. Suffice it to say that I like the way things are here and would not change a thing.

IMO

You think it's just one particular poster? Interesting......


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The smilies can be fun but they can also be used to do nothing more than bait other posters. For some it seems to have become a signature of sorts, imo. I sure wouldn't miss them at all !!
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Is this board for adults? For heavens sake, can't people learn to ignore, turn the smilies off, whatever!!

Is the need to control gone so far that now we are being told how many smilies to post.

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I've always heard if you want to be treated like an adult you must act like an adult.

Everything in moderation is a good rule - IMO


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On the thread I post on most often at CL. the biggest offender(s) uses nothing but smiles, in almost every single post. Suggesting to me that either it is used to bait and derail a thread, or some have no real thoughts or have nothing to contribute to any discussion here at CL. Please think about if every poster did this also, then you might have a very different veiw. I agree you can ignore and perhaps turn off the smiles, but that would not address the issue of why this is done by some in the first place. jmo
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Is this board for adults? For heavens sake, can't people learn to ignore, turn the smilies off, whatever!!

Is the need to control gone so far that now we are being told how many smilies to post.

GROW UP!!

I shouldn't have to turn the smileys off because someone abuses them.
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I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL


Let's be honest here for once. Coldwater banned the laughing icon because you and your friends complained about it. Pot/kettle???
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I shouldn't have to turn the smileys off because someone abuses them.
And I shouldn't be deprived of the use of smilies because a certain "gang" is offended by one poster who they feel is abusing them. Turn them off, keep them on, it's your choice.

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I find this poll fascinating as well. All the voters from one particular forum, including a moderator, and there is only one poster in that particular forum that can possibly be accused of the "overuse of icons" complaint. Interesting.

Is this a "gang" thing? Do the other forums on this board have this problem, or is this just about one poster on one forum?

I see many votes on here for the "3 icon maximum", just like CTV. If I wanted to post on a forum "Just like CTV", I'd go there. I like this one better.

I'm not voting. I will not participate in a "gang" vote to single out one particular poster. Suffice it to say that I like the way things are here and would not change a thing.

IMO

My question with this poll was a reasonable question. The overuse of icons adds NOTHING to any discussion. It is done to mock and instigate.
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And I shouldn't be deprived of the use of smilies because a certain "gang" is offended by one poster who they feel is abusing them. Turn them off, keep them on, it's your choice.

IMO


You wouldn't be deprived of the smileys, just the abuse of them. Three, four or five is more then enough to get the point across.
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I think that's hilarious too, cham! Too funny! It's a good thing there isn't a poll about rudeness. Rudeness constitutes disrespecting others, & their rights to their opinions. That being said, have a nice day everyone. I'm waving to you all, but, you can't see it because, I haven't used my icons, as this is from a quotation. IMO

NW, I don't think limiting the number of icons in a post is disrespecting a posters rights to their opinions. EVERYONE has a right to their opinion. I think the smilies are kinda like an exclamation point at the end of a sentence. It indicates a person feels strongly about what was stated. And that's okay. We all have things we feel strongly about. I think all the smilies serve a purpose, as long as they're used in moderation.
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My question with this poll was a reasonable question. The overuse of icons adds NOTHING to any discussion. It is done to mock and instigate.
That is your interpretation of a poster's motive to use multiple icons. I've seen this done by one poster on one forum and MY interpretation is that is simply the poster's style. So, since when is it "reasonable" to make an issue that effects every poster here when there may be only one or two posters that are doing this?

Unless you can show me where enough posters are abusing the smilies to warrant a change, then I submit that this is simple a way to censor the one poster that I know of, which is how a "gang" operates. How simple it would be to just ignore the one, but, from reading your previous post, it appears that you don't wish to go that route.

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And I shouldn't be deprived of the use of smilies because a certain "gang" is offended by one poster who they feel is abusing them. Turn them off, keep them on, it's your choice.

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I assure you I am in no gang, but honestly I haven't seen you using a ton of them in every one of your post's, I don't understand how limiting them would deprive you or anyone. I like the smiles to, but I don't see putting a limit as a bad thing. jmo
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I voted for no limit. The limit of three icons over on CTV is annoying IMO. I don't usually use more than three, but when I quote someone else it becomes an issue. Let freedom ring I say!
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I voted a limit of three.
You can say whatever you need to say quite adequately with three. More than that is distracting.

I don't use them often and would have no problem if they all flew the coop.
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(snipped). We used no more then two or three and you among others complained about it. .
No Ma'am, I DID NOT COMPLAIN. You are absolutely 100% wrong on that. I kinda miss the laughing smilie and did not know what happened to it, but your accusation directed at me is way off base as I did nothing of the sort, which is a clear indication to me that you are "creating" stories to make your point.

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No Ma'am, I DID NOT COMPLAIN. You are absolutely 100% wrong on that. I kinda miss the laughing smilie and did not know what happened to it, but your accusation directed at me is way off base as I did nothing of the sort, which is a clear indication to me that you are "creating" stories to make your point.

Thanks for the lesson.

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I seem to recall you weighing in on the complaints. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I'm going by memory. I don't need to create stories.
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Smilies do give a poster an opportunity to display emotion. If ones emotions can not be properly addressed using 3 smilies or less, then maybe the poster needs to learn to control their emotions better, jmo.
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I voted for no limit. The limit of three icons over on CTV is annoying IMO. I don't usually use more than three, but when I quote someone else it becomes an issue. Let freedom ring I say!
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Smilies do give a poster an opportunity to display emotion. If ones emotions can not be properly addressed using 3 smilies or less, then maybe the poster needs to learn to control their emotions better, jmo.
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I voted for the limit of 3.......because, most of us post on more than just one forum here...many of us have seen them misused on all forums...it can be distracting...it really serves no purpose to have just icons in a post without adding to the conversation! That's just my humble opinion!
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After reading this thread, I only have one question. If the posts bother some so much, why don't you use the ignore feature? It really is a wonderful tool.
Great post! I totally agree.
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