The Murder of Princess Diana

[TuscanDreams]

A movie is on tonight on Lifetime regarding the death of Princess Diana. Would anyone like to discuss this? I thought Diana died of a car accident, not a homicide.

Your thoughts?

[HowardLovedAnna]

Hi

I am English and yes she died of a car crash cos of an alleged very drunk driver and the fact that she didnt have a seat belt on. Dodi didnt wear one either and the only one that did wear one was in fact Trevor Rhys Jones and admittedly he was very badly injured BUT he was the only one to survive.

Dodi's father Mohammed Al Fayed (owner of Harrods ) won't accept this tho and claims that Diana was pregnant by Dodi and that they was to get married and that allegedly the Royal Family didnt want the Princes to have a Arab step father and so the crash was "fixed".

[WarmNCozy]

It took actual events and added facts and fiction! I think for just a story before the anniversary of her death!

[starlite]

I didn't get to watch the movie tonight, but a few years ago I read the book,and IIRC, Diana had a suspicion that the royal family were going to have her killed.

I always thought Diana was a very lovely person, she deserved so much better than Charles! jmo

[HowardLovedAnna]

Originally Posted by starlite

I didn't get to watch the movie tonight, but a few years ago I read the book,and IIRC, Diana had a suspicion that the royal family were going to have her killed.

I always thought Diana was a very lovely person, she deserved so much better than Charles! jmo

Apparently she thought Charles or the Duke of Edinburgh wanted her dead yes.

I really have no idea what i think in all honesty. From the videos and pictures of Henri Paul walking out of the Ritz he doesnt seem anywhere as near drunk as they claim he was for sure. He seemed sober and in a report i saw it said the figures in his autopsy if they had been correct he wouldnt have been able to walk let alone drive. For many years i believed she was murdered and for sure its worked out better for Charles and Camilla this way.

Incidentally last Wednesday i was in Paris at the tunnel where they died. There is a shrine with her photo on above the tunnel and people have put flowers etc on it. It was kinda touching to see

[Mishell1383]

I thought the paparazzi were speeding to catch up to her, and they caused the crash. Also I read that a white car had clipped or the mercedes clipped the white car, causing it to hit the pillar. "French police are still seeking the driver of a white Fiat Uno believed to have been clipped by the Mercedes in the Alma underpass shortly before its final crash. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/53752.stm

[sallynuts]

why are we still talking about this???

is it like JFK>>>????

there will never be an answer that will satisfy the majority... because,, know one really knows what happened,,... we can speculate,, till we die,,, we will never know the absolute truth,,,what we know is that


she was a beautiful woman,, in every sense,, and she will never be forgotten....

[Mishell1383]

Originally Posted by sallynuts

why are we still talking about this???

is it like JFK>>>????

there will never be an answer that will satisfy the majority... because,, know one really knows what happened,,... we can speculate,, till we die,,, we will never know the absolute truth,,,what we know is that


she was a beautiful woman,, in every sense,, and she will never be forgotten....

Because we can...

[TuscanDreams]

The movie was horrible, acting wise, and I'm a Lifetime TV addict.

Interesting questions were brought up, however. Was there a white car in the tunnel that wasn't located after the crash?

I watched the Martin Brashear (spelling?) documentary that aired prior to the movie. Diana eluded that the royal family had a plot against her, but I'm not sure I buy into that or not.

[TuscanDreams]

Originally Posted by HowardLovedAnna

Apparently she thought Charles or the Duke of Edinburgh wanted her dead yes.

I really have no idea what i think in all honesty. From the videos and pictures of Henri Paul walking out of the Ritz he doesnt seem anywhere as near drunk as they claim he was for sure. He seemed sober and in a report i saw it said the figures in his autopsy if they had been correct he wouldnt have been able to walk let alone drive. For many years i believed she was murdered and for sure its worked out better for Charles and Camilla this way.

Incidentally last Wednesday i was in Paris at the tunnel where they died. There is a shrine with her photo on above the tunnel and people have put flowers etc on it. It was kinda touching to see

Thank you for posting this about the tunnel, I'm a fan of Princess Diana, as she was an advocate for peace and land mine removal.

What was Henri Paul's alcohol level, if anyone knows.

[Mishell1383]

Originally Posted by TuscanDreams

Thank you for posting this about the tunnel, I'm a fan of Princess Diana, as she was an advocate for peace and land mine removal.

What was Henri Paul's alcohol level, if anyone knows.

"Henri Paul, driver in Paris crash that killed Diana, Princess of Wales had level of alcohol produced by drinking eight or nine glasses of wine, more than three times legal limit in France; latest test reportedly shows 0.18 percent alcohol level and traces of anti-depressant drugs that could have compounded effect"

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...aul%2c%20Henri

IMO I do not believe it was a murder plot against Diana, as with car accidents, you cannot guarantee death, and why take 3 others possibly a fourth OR MORE, with the ONE you want murdered?

I think Henri was under the influence of alcohol and got discombobulated by paparazzi and camera flashes, I also think another car was involved in the accident but took off...

[Mishell1383]

Originally Posted by TuscanDreams

The movie was horrible, acting wise, and I'm a Lifetime TV addict.

Interesting questions were brought up, however. Was there a white car in the tunnel that wasn't located after the crash?

I watched the Martin Brashear (spelling?) documentary that aired prior to the movie. Diana eluded that the royal family had a plot against her, but I'm not sure I buy into that or not.

LOL I'm a Lifetime addict too!

I found this

"According to the police report, just past the tunnel exit, they were passed by a white Fiat Uno, the source said. The man said he recognized the car model because his mother-in-law had the same one.
The car's exhaust pipe was making a loud noise as if it had been damaged, and the driver was driving abnormally -- "zigzagging" -- and then cut off the couple's car, the witnesses were quoted as saying.
The Fiat's driver was "a European type," about 40 years old, with brown hair, the witnesses said. In the back seat of his car was a large dog. "

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9712/31/diana/index.html

[TuscanDreams]

I think it was a horrible accident and now that I know Diana wasn't wearing a seatbelt, that explains her death.

However, I think that few members of the royal family, aside from her sons, grieved her passing.

[Sunset]

In my opinion she was murdered. Henri Paul was a professional security guard, he wouldn't have been drinking on the job. And it's interesting to say the least that the sole survivor doesn't 'remember' anything...... Just my opinion though.
I loved Diana... still do.

[Mishell1383]

Originally Posted by Sunset

In my opinion she was murdered. Henri Paul was a professional security guard, he wouldn't have been drinking on the job. And it's interesting to say the least that the sole survivor doesn't 'remember' anything...... Just my opinion though.
I loved Diana... still do.

The soul survivor, had 150 fractures in his face, and it was flattened. A top surgeon had to piece his face and skull together using photographs. You think he doesn't 'remember' because he doesn't want too? Why would anyone let their face and head get destroyed on purpose? That makes no sense. There were to many people in the car for her to be murdered, and there are far more "guaranteed" ways to pull off a murder. imo

[TuscanDreams]

I'm not a "crier" by nature, but I cried when Princess Diana died. She meant so much to so many people and my heart broke for her 2 young sons.

Accident or not, Diana was a hero.

[rachelslaw]

Originally Posted by TuscanDreams

I'm not a "crier" by nature, but I cried when Princess Diana died. She meant so much to so many people and my heart broke for her 2 young sons.

Accident or not, Diana was a hero.

I cried as well. She came off as a very loving, warm and friendly person.

For Diana, Princess of Wales

[starlite]

Originally Posted by HowardLovedAnna

Apparently she thought Charles or the Duke of Edinburgh wanted her dead yes.

I really have no idea what i think in all honesty. From the videos and pictures of Henri Paul walking out of the Ritz he doesnt seem anywhere as near drunk as they claim he was for sure. He seemed sober and in a report i saw it said the figures in his autopsy if they had been correct he wouldnt have been able to walk let alone drive. For many years i believed she was murdered and for sure its worked out better for Charles and Camilla this way.

Incidentally last Wednesday i was in Paris at the tunnel where they died. There is a shrine with her photo on above the tunnel and people have put flowers etc on it. It was kinda touching to see

I don't have the book anymore,and it's been a few years back when i read it, so I can't recall most of it, but I do recall that after I had read the book that I was very suspicious that it could have been a murder.I didn't think HP appeared to be that intoxicated either,so I really don't know what to think.There certainly wasn't any love in that marriage and the royal family didn't like Diana,so she probaly had valid reasons to be suspicious.
JMO
seeing the tunnel with her picture and the flowers would be a very touching experience.

[raven]

I think it was a terrible accident too.

She was a lovely lady, but extremely mixed up - probably at least partly due to her relationship with Charles and the rest of the royal family. She certainly wasn't perfect - she had had a string of affairs and there is still the question as to whether Charles is Harry's father. But she did a lot of charity and humanitarian work and was liked all the more for her human flaws.

[WarmNCozy]

Another drunk driver takes the life of this beautiful woman.

[Rheanna]

Would've been nice to see Princess Di as a Queen.. Sad.. RIP DI

[Mysteri]

Originally Posted by starlite

I didn't get to watch the movie tonight, but a few years ago I read the book,and IIRC, Diana had a suspicion that the royal family were going to have her killed.

I always thought Diana was a very lovely person, she deserved so much better than Charles! jmo

True !!

A member of M 16 came to Diana and told her there was a plot to eliminate her so that Charles could marry Camilla Parker Bowles....that was approximately a year before the fatal crash. Diana wrote about this plot in a letter to Paul Burrell which helped to initiiate the Inquest after so many years.

If you read Trvor Rees Jones ( The Bodyguard's Story ) book , you will learn that Henri Paul was NOT drunk and Trevor di NOT war a seat belt because he had removed it to talk with Dodi and Diana in the back seat....he was in the passenger seat.

At the last minute another vehicle was substituted, the exit they had to take was Closed Off forcing them into the tunnel where the the security lights and cameras had been dismantled.

The most likely chain of events it that Henri Pual who had large sums of cash deposited in several Swiss accounts thought he was part of a Kidnap Plot and not that a car crash was planned. British agents have explained that a bright white light ( there are witnesses to it at the inquest ) was shone in the driver's face as he entered the tunnel. It blinded him and the crash ensued.

Emad 'Dodi' Al Fayed father's Mohammed has always insisted that Prince Philip was a Nazi and was determined to prevent Diana from marrying his Egyptian son. Of course Diana had no intentions of marrying Dodi and there was no engagement and no pregnancy. ( Verified by the Coroner and Diana's Friends and Family ) ALL Invented by Mohammed Al Fayed to fit his version.

Charles is the only one who benefitted from the death of Diana. There was even a scheme called Operation C PB to make it possible for him to wed Camilla. Now he has done so and refuses to testify at the inquest and because of his privilege, he doesn't have to. The Queen was able to stop two trials a couple of years ago to protect him. ( It came out that he was selling off royal presents and not reporting the income from it and also that he was deeply involved with his former valet, Michael Fawcett. Camilla is said to ''adore' Fawcett as much as Charles does.) The Queen hasn't been able to stop the inquest but has been able to block certain witnesses from testifying, Charles among them.

http://www.londonnet.co.uk/ln/talk/n...ews.html#crash
CHARLES is the person named in this letter and it will be presented as Evidence at the on-going inquest in London

PAPERS name Charles as Death Plot thickens:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...268043277.html

Charles and Micahel Fawcett with C PB

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...243307798.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2843499.stm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in582414.shtml

DIANA would have never ever allowed herself to be driven by a person who was drunk and she spoke with Paul in the hotel before they departed...film shows him bending over , tying his shoelace with ease...a person that drunk ( as they say he was ) couldn't stand up !!


imo

[Angie1960]

Originally Posted by sallynuts

why are we still talking about this???

is it like JFK>>>????

there will never be an answer that will satisfy the majority... because,, know one really knows what happened,,... we can speculate,, till we die,,, we will never know the absolute truth,,,what we know is that


she was a beautiful woman,, in every sense,, and she will never be forgotten....

If there was a conspiracy it should definately be dealt with - either way she was murdered - either by the conspiracy or the paparazzi.

[Mysteri]

Originally Posted by Angie1960

If there was a conspiracy it should definately be dealt with - either way she was murdered - either by the conspiracy or the paparazzi.

And of course we're still talking about it because an Inquest into her death is going on RIGHT NOW in London.

[roamer]

My own opinion is that the murder plot came from Dodi's father, and the rumors have flown ever since.

I've been involved with families of drunk drivers for many years, and there is just no excuse for the heartbreak this one, careless act can cause. It was said he was a heavy drinker, plus took pills, and you build up a tolerance to both. People may have thought he was normal that night.

Papparazzi chasing them may have been part of it, even the other car. Until I see proven fact otherwise, I think she was killed by a drunk driver. Just a remeinder that these things don't always happen to bad people, but to anyone unfortunate enough to be in a car either with them, or hit by them.

Diana had a beautiful soul, and many will miss her forever.

[packy]

It's always bothered me that the security lights and cameras had been out of order and I thought it was said that the police radios or signals weren't operating right either that night. If that is true it seems fishy.

[Mysteri]

Originally Posted by packy

It's always bothered me that the security lights and cameras had been out of order and I thought it was said that the police radios or signals weren't operating right either that night. If that is true it seems fishy.

Not to mention the Exit they wished to use was blocked, thus forcing them to Enter the tunnel which was not part of the usual route.

imo

[Angie1960]

Originally Posted by Mysteri

Not to mention the Exit they wished to use was blocked, thus forcing them to Enter the tunnel which was not part of the usual route.

imo

There is more than enough evil in this world for consipiracies to exist, not to mention that royalty & governments are often paranoid. They probably believed she could really cause them harm. No matter that she was not the type to cause harm but she was one who matured into a humanitarian and wanted nothing but to make the world a better place!

[lexcat]

This is another good cite to go to as well, it give you all kinds of different links to what has happened and what is going on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_o...ncess_of_Wales

[etphoto]

DI was murdered by the same people who killed JFK, blew up the World Trade Center, shot the missile into the Pentagon, shot down TWA Flight 800 with a missile and seen Bigfoot in Ohio. Or, just maybe, she died in an auto crash just like 10s of thousands of others across the world each year.

ET

[brandi43]

Just my opioion; If someone wanted someone else dead...I doubt they would "fix" a car accident..just can not be done. The variables are just way to many..We have all see car crash photo's where a vehicle is totally demolished beyond recognition...yet...the passengers escaped unscathed or with very minor injuries to the absolute dismay of rescuers, police and anyone else watching the news. We have also seen situations where the vehicle damage is negligible, yet all passengers died or 1 died and 5 lived, or 5 died and 1 lived. There is absolutely no way to plan a "vehicle accident" and be 100% sure of who will die in that accident. Like another poster said, she was a beautiful person inside and out, and gave of herself willingly for the good of others.

Originally Posted by HowardLovedAnna

Hi

I am English and yes she died of a car crash cos of an alleged very drunk driver and the fact that she didnt have a seat belt on. Dodi didnt wear one either and the only one that did wear one was in fact Trevor Rhys Jones and admittedly he was very badly injured BUT he was the only one to survive.

Dodi's father Mohammed Al Fayed (owner of Harrods ) won't accept this tho and claims that Diana was pregnant by Dodi and that they was to get married and that allegedly the Royal Family didnt want the Princes to have a Arab step father and so the crash was "fixed".

[LuAnna99]

It could've been set up. I love a good conspiracy theory and all the elements are there, a missing witness conflicting testimony about the driver and a royal family who shunned her. It may have been an accident but there is a lurking possibility of conspiracy. besides government is always creating "accidentally beneficial" situations for itself.

[LindaA]

I don't think it was a murder either. Unfortunately Diana was, IMO, an emotionally disturbed woman who was singularly unsuited to be in the position she was with the royal family. It is probably for the best that she never came to be Queen Consort. I thnk both Charles & Diana were in untenable positions while they were married. JMO. Don't shoot me.

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by Joseph Bell

Hi
The only person Diana was 'murdered' by was the drunk and drugged Henri Paul. There was no conspiracy. Why would anyone want to kill her? She was the mother to the bar one King of England. She wanted an 'ordinary' life and she couldn't have one because of who she was. I don't think for one moment that Diana wanted to become an ordinary person again. She liked being the POW and why shouldn't she? The problem was she entrusted her safety to people who couldn't provide it. And no, I'm not forgetting those leech like paps in Paris. I wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.

Cheers

Excellent post.

[Angie1960]

Originally Posted by LindaA

I don't think it was a murder either. Unfortunately Diana was, IMO, an emotionally disturbed woman who was singularly unsuited to be in the position she was with the royal family. It is probably for the best that she never came to be Queen Consort. I thnk both Charles & Diana were in untenable positions while they were married. JMO. Don't shoot me.

Well then IMO I think we need plenty more unsuitable, emotionally disturbed people in this world. Just think of all the good they could do - like Diana.

You must know her very well. Just what are the qualities of a "Queen Consort" today - Are they not figureheads? I would think the qualifications to be Royal in the UK are poise and a nice speaking voice - Kind of like a Star Search Spokesmodel. JMHO

[Drumbum]

It was an accident. Rest in peace.

[LindaA]

Originally Posted by Angie1960

Well then IMO I think we need plenty more unsuitable, emotionally disturbed people in this world. Just think of all the good they could do - like Diana.

You must know her very well. Just what are the qualities of a "Queen Consort" today - Are they not figureheads? I would think the qualifications to be Royal in the UK are poise and a nice speaking voice - Kind of like a Star Search Spokesmodel. JMHO

Hardly. All members of the English Royal Family carry out extensive charity work, make almost daily public appearances, and manage large estates, some of which are quite well-run farms. They do far more than most people ever bother to learn about and they don't flaunt it. They get a bad rap for doing very little wrong in the big picture, while Diana was given a pass by the general public just because she had a pretty face. If she had never been a member of the Royal Family, Dodie Al Fayed would never have given her a tumble. She enjoyed life with the Beautiful People at the expense of the Queen and her family.

[CindyB]

Originally Posted by Joseph Bell

Hi. I am a great admirer of Diana. She was only a human being and like all of us she had her good side and her bad side. I think that her charity work was exceptional and the way she could relate to many different people was exemplary. Would she have made a great queen consort? IMP definitely yes.

As I've posted, i do not for one minute believe there was a conspiracy to kill her.

I hope she rests in the peace she didn't have here.

Bye

Originally Posted by Joseph Bell

Hi
The only person Diana was 'murdered' by was the drunk and drugged Henri Paul. There was no conspiracy. Why would anyone want to kill her? She was the mother to the bar one King of England. She wanted an 'ordinary' life and she couldn't have one because of who she was. I don't think for one moment that Diana wanted to become an ordinary person again. She liked being the POW and why shouldn't she? The problem was she entrusted her safety to people who couldn't provide it. And no, I'm not forgetting those leech like paps in Paris. I wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.

Cheers

ITA....I couldn't have stated the way I feel about Diana or her fate any better than you did.

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by CindyB

ITA....I couldn't have stated the way I feel about Diana or her fate any better than you did.

ITA IMO

[LindaA]

I'm no Diana fan, but, don't get me wrong, I certainly hate that she died in such a violent way, and so young