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[TopGunner]

Sorry to start another thread, but I just caught this and it started 5 minutes ago. John Walsh was just on saying how ISP wouldn't meet with him.

[Trixy]

Thanks. I just got home from work and would have ended up watching boring news.

Oooh his cocky attitude and that pretend to cry voice is being played now. What a fake! He's eyes are black like his soul.

[deputydi]

Originally Posted by Trixy

Thanks. I just got home from work and would have ended up watching boring news.

Oooh his cocky attitude and that pretend to cry voice is being played now. What a fake! He's eyes are black like his soul.

I'm still at work!

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by Trixy

Thanks. I just got home from work and would have ended up watching boring news.

Oooh his cocky attitude and that pretend to cry voice is being played now. What a fake! He's eyes are black like his soul.

You know Trix, you're right. He is one BLACK SOUL. Watching his interviews, knowing what we know, is really creepy.

DD - I'll check to see if they're going to repeat this later tonight, hang in there!

[Trixy]

Originally Posted by deputydi

I'm still at work!

I'm sure it will be repeated.

They just showed the Ps blaming everyone but Scott and telling their lies. Momma P feels "like I live in Natzi Germany".

[Cadillakin]

Originally Posted by Trixy

I'm sure it will be repeated.

They just showed the Ps blaming everyone but Scott and telling their lies. Momma P feels "like I live in Nazi Germany".

Funny. Phil Spector used that same metaphor.

IMO, the best metaphor for Scott's obvious guilt was by a female writer or comedian who quipped before the trial; "That guy is as guilty as 3 OJ Simpson's".

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by Cadillakin

Funny. Phil Spector used that same metaphor.

IMO, the best metaphor for Scott's obvious guilt was by a female writer or comedian who quipped before the trial; "That guy is as guilty as 3 OJ Simpson's".

3 OJ's and 2 Bundy's if you ask me.

Geregos is so embarrassing....I find myself cringing on his behalf.

[Lavindar]

I just woke up and am catching it from now. I also TIVO'd it when it reruns at 8 tonight.

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by Lavindar

I just woke up and am catching it from now. I also TIVO'd it when it reruns at 8 tonight.

DD - are you listening? 8:00 PM tonight (which is right now).

[deputydi]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

DD - are you listening? 8:00 PM tonight (which is right now).

Just logged on. Thanks. Missed only about 15 min

[onthefence]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

Sorry to start another thread, but I just caught this and it started 5 minutes ago. John Walsh was just on saying how ISP wouldn't meet with him.

Can't say I blame Scott on that one. Sorry, but, John Walsh grates on my last nerve.

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by onthefence

Can't say I blame Scott on that one. Sorry, but, John Walsh grates on my last nerve.

Hi OTF....

I find this an odd thing to say. I don't know how ISP could dislike someone he didn't know, and only wanted to help, and COULD help.

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

Hi OTF....

I find this an odd thing to say. I don't know how ISP could dislike someone he didn't know, and only wanted to help, and COULD help.

i can't imagine anyone thinking Walsh got on their nerves. He has done so much to help catch criminals. I guess Mark Klaas must also be self-serving. Both of these men have turned their own very personal tragedies into doing good deeds for others.

Scott should have at least had better manners than he exhibited. What he did was RUDE at best and ws just another example of how little it mattered to him that his wife and son were missing. That's my opinion

[enlightenme]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

DD - are you listening? 8:00 PM tonight (which is right now).

Dang! I missed it again!

I can't believe anyone thinks those TV interviews Scott did put him in a good light. His ego and dishonesty were like neon signs blinking about his head ..."I did it! I did it!"

When he lied to Diane Sawyer that he told LE about Amber "from that first night on", he didn't even blink an eye. Oh yes, there was a man very adept and comfortable with lies!

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by enlightenme

Dang! I missed it again!

I can't believe anyone thinks those TV interviews Scott did put him in a good light. His ego and dishonesty were like neon signs blinking about his head ..."I did it! I did it!"

When he lied to Diane Sawyer that he told LE about Amber "from that first night on", he didn't even blink an eye. Oh yes, there was a man very adept and comfortable with lies!

I totally agree EM. I purposely watched him like a hawk when I knew the quesitons were coming that he lied about, and man........what a pro. As an aside, I try to cut Jackie & Lee some slack (are ya listening March?), because I just wouldn't wish what happened to them on anyone, BUT - when Jackie was telling the press "I love Laci, we all love Laci", I could have popped her one. Knowing what she was really up to behind the scenes during that time "I wish Scott could meet a nice girl like you Lorriane", made it easy to see how lying is like breathing to ISP.

[deputydi]

I don't think it's on E! here. I've been watching something about self-indulgent Hip Hop Wives.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by onthefence

Can't say I blame Scott on that one. Sorry, but, John Walsh grates on my last nerve.

Hey, welcome! I don't watch his show myself, but I understand its the most popular show in jails and prisons. That's where some of the best leads come from.

John Walsh's child Adam was snatched and murdered. The little boy's head was found in a canal in Florida, so I have tons of empathy for him since he's devoted his life to justice. Why, if he's so annoying do you do you watch his show?

How do you feel about Mark Klaas and his comments about SP? Actually, his denials to say to say it more clearly.

[enlightenme]

Originally Posted by deputydi

I don't think it's on E! here. I've been watching something about self-indulgent Hip Hop Wives.

That same thing is on here DD. It was on at 3pm PST here and I missed it. I checked online and it doesn't repeat again, at least not this week.

In one of Scott's TV interviews, he calls Laci a missing "sister, daughter, cousin, niece, wife". It's interesting that he uses "wife" last.

Scottspeak. He talks different than anyone I've ever met, that's for sure!

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by deputydi

I don't think it's on E! here. I've been watching something about self-indulgent Hip Hop Wives.

SO sorry DD! I just assumed Lavindar meant it was repeating at 8, but I've got the hip-hop wives on too. I do hope it repeats, it was really good.

[deputydi]

Originally Posted by enlightenme

That same thing is on here DD. It was on at 3pm PST here and I missed it. I checked online and it doesn't repeat again, at least not this week.

In one of Scott's TV interviews, he calls Laci a missing "sister, daughter, cousin, niece, wife". It's interesting that he uses "wife" last.

Scottspeak. He talks different than anyone I've ever met, that's for sure!

You mean you didn't understand "Violence toward women is unapproachable"? Or, "We men, we cut each other". Yes, his speech is different alright.

[onthefence]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

Hi OTF....

I find this an odd thing to say. I don't know how ISP could dislike someone he didn't know, and only wanted to help, and COULD help.

What does ISP mean?

I don't know John Walsh and I don't care for him much -anymore. I used to really admire the work he had done in regards to helping to bring media attention to missing children's cases, etc.-until this case, actually. It changed the way I see him mainly because he very publicly insinuated himself into this case (which i kinda felt was self serving), and when he was rebuffed in this case he disses the person who rebuffed him on national television. If he only wanted only to help, it would not have been handled in what i felt was pretty self serving and manipulative, public way, imo. If it were me, and I were in the same situation (very high profile case), I would be leery of most people and wouldn't want someone publicly insinuating themselves into my life-via a public request for an interview, under the guise of trying to help, unless I asked for their help. It's just my opinion, not a character flaw.

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

SO sorry DD! I just assumed Lavindar meant it was repeating at 8, but I've got the hip-hop wives on too. I do hope it repeats, it was really good.

You guys are right and I am wrong. I must have hit the wrong button, dangit

[deputydi]

Originally Posted by onthefence

What does ISP mean?

I don't know John Walsh and I don't care for him much -anymore. I used to really admire the work he had done in regards to helping to bring media attention to missing children's cases, etc.-until this case, actually. It changed the way I see him mainly because he very publicly insinuated himself into this case (which i kinda felt was self serving), and when he was rebuffed in this case he disses the person who rebuffed him on national television. If he only wanted only to help, it would not have been handled in what i felt was pretty self serving and manipulative, public way, imo. If it were me, and I were in the same situation (very high profile case), I would be leery of most people and wouldn't want someone publicly insinuating themselves into my life-via a public request for an interview, under the guise of trying to help, unless I asked for their help. It's just my opinion, not a character flaw.

If it were me and someone I loved had suddenly disappeared, I'd be greatful for anyone offering help. John Walsh didn't need "this case" to promote himself or his show. He has done wonderful work in bringing clever criminals to justice and I salute him for that.

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by onthefence

What does ISP mean?

I don't know John Walsh and I don't care for him much -anymore. I used to really admire the work he had done in regards to helping to bring media attention to missing children's cases, etc.-until this case, actually. It changed the way I see him mainly because he very publicly insinuated himself into this case (which i kinda felt was self serving), and when he was rebuffed in this case he disses the person who rebuffed him on national television. If he only wanted only to help, it would not have been handled in what i felt was pretty self serving and manipulative, public way, imo. If it were me, and I were in the same situation (very high profile case), I would be leery of most people and wouldn't want someone publicly insinuating themselves into my life-via a public request for an interview, under the guise of trying to help, unless I asked for their help. It's just my opinion, not a character flaw.

ISP = Inmate Scott Peterson

Sorry OTF, I appreciate your response, but Walsh has a rock solid reptuation that he's EARNED for success in these situations. I think it was ISP who was self-serving and manipulative. Who would turn down the help of John Walsh who could do more in ONE day that 6 billion brochures hung per minute, for 6 months could ever do?

I think it's obvious ISP avoided him for no other reason than he was guilty.

[onthefence]

Originally Posted by Otter

Hey, welcome! I don't watch his show myself, but I understand its the most popular show in jails and prisons. That's where some of the best leads come from.

John Walsh's child Adam was snatched and murdered. The little boy's head was found in a canal in Florida, so I have tons of empathy for him since he's devoted his life to justice. Why, if he's so annoying do you do you watch his show?

How do you feel about Mark Klaas and his comments about SP? Actually, his denials to say to say it more clearly.

I don't watch his show anymore. I have empathy and am heartsick for anyone who has lost a child. Can't imagine anything much harder than that. I don't know what Mark Klaas comments are about Scott P, so, I cannot answer this question. I am sure Mark Klaas has an opinion, but, so do most people about this case. His doesn't mean any more to me because he has a daughter that was murdered.

[enlightenme]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

ISP = Inmate Scott Peterson

Sorry OTF, I appreciate your response, but Walsh has a rock solid reptuation that he's EARNED for success in these situations. I think it was ISP who was self-serving and manipulative. Who would turn down the help of John Walsh who could do more in ONE day that 6 billion brochures hung per minute, for 6 months could ever do?

I think it's obvious ISP avoided him for no other reason than he was guilty.

If my loved one was missing and John Walsh offered to help, I would be falling all over myself and move mountains to get there in time. I would probably get down on my knees and thank him!

It's not surprising to me that someone that supports Scott would change their whole attitude about the great work this man has done, out of love for his murdered son and a desire to help others, simply because he found Scott's behavior odd. It WAS odd! It was the behavior of a guilty man. Such is the dedication and devotion of some of the SIIs, IMO.

[onthefence]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

ISP = Inmate Scott Peterson

Sorry OTF, I appreciate your response, but Walsh has a rock solid reptuation that he's EARNED for success in these situations. I think it was ISP who was self-serving and manipulative. Who would turn down the help of John Walsh who could do more in ONE day that 6 billion brochures hung per minute, for 6 months could ever do?

I think it's obvious ISP avoided him for no other reason than he was guilty.

After I saw how John Walsh handled Scott P case, I would turn him down,especially if he offered help publicly-i.e-to get himself on tv-if I declined would he just accept that I had my reasons, or would he go on tv saying that because I wouldn't agree to be interviewed by HIM, I must be guilty? Just didn't set well with me at all. sorry.

You may be right about the reason Scott P turned down an interview with him, and I agree that he has the ability to raise awareness in a case that more than most.

I still suspect John Walsh's motives in THIS case, because I dont' think an interview with Scott was necessary if all he really wanted to do was to help find Laci. That's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this part

[onthefence]

Originally Posted by enlightenme

If my loved one was missing and John Walsh offered to help, I would be falling all over myself and move mountains to get there in time. I would probably get down on my knees and thank him!

It's not surprising to me that someone that supports Scott would change their whole attitude about the great work this man has done, out of love for his murdered son and a desire to help others, simply because he found Scott's behavior odd. It WAS odd! It was the behavior of a guilty man. Such is the dedication and devotion of some of the SIIs, IMO.

why is it that one is labeled a scott supporter simply because I don't care for the way John Walsh handled this particular case? It really shuts down a potentially good discussion of people just expressing opinions.

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by onthefence

After I saw how John Walsh handled Scott P case, I would turn him down,especially if he offered help publicly-i.e-to get himself on tv-if I declined would he just accept that I had my reasons, or would he go on tv saying that because I wouldn't agree to be interviewed by HIM, I must be guilty? Just didn't set well with me at all. sorry.

You may be right about the reason Scott P turned down an interview with him, and I agree that he has the ability to raise awareness in a case that more than most.

I still suspect John Walsh's motives in THIS case, because I dont' think an interview with Scott was necessary if all he really wanted to do was to help find Laci. That's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this part

I don't think John Walsh needed Scott Peterson to get himself on TV.

[deputydi]

Originally Posted by onthefence

After I saw how John Walsh handled Scott P case, I would turn him down,especially if he offered help publicly-i.e-to get himself on tv-if I declined would he just accept that I had my reasons, or would he go on tv saying that because I wouldn't agree to be interviewed by HIM, I must be guilty? Just didn't set well with me at all. sorry.

You may be right about the reason Scott P turned down an interview with him, and I agree that he has the ability to raise awareness in a case that more than most.

I still suspect John Walsh's motives in THIS case, because I dont' think an interview with Scott was necessary if all he really wanted to do was to help find Laci. That's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this part

What about Scotts motives for agreeing to the interview and blowing him off to go golfing?

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by deputydi

What about Scotts motives for agreeing to the interview and blowing him off to go golfing?

I have to agree DD. The last thing that ever occured to me was that Walsh had an ulterier motive. It's what he's dedicated his entire life to, it's not like just popped out from nowhere and said "oh, I see opportunity". He's an extremely busy man.................ISP needed him, not the other way around. IMO.

[deputydi]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

I have to agree DD. The last thing that ever occured to me was that Walsh had an ulterier motive. It's what he's dedicated his entire life to, it's not like just popped out from nowhere and said "oh, I see opportunity". He's an extremely busy man.................ISP needed him, not the other way around. IMO.

Right. I'm not sure why anyone would question Walsh's motives. He sure didn't do it for the exposure -- is there anyone who doesn't know John Walsh's story and all he's done to put hundreds of criminals behind bars? I will admit that Marc Klaas comes across (to me) a little pompous but I've never questioned his sincerety and I've never questioned his motives.

[Pampster]

Originally Posted by onthefence

After I saw how John Walsh handled Scott P case, I would turn him down,especially if he offered help publicly-i.e-to get himself on tv-if I declined would he just accept that I had my reasons, or would he go on tv saying that because I wouldn't agree to be interviewed by HIM, I must be guilty? Just didn't set well with me at all. sorry.

You may be right about the reason Scott P turned down an interview with him, and I agree that he has the ability to raise awareness in a case that more than most.

I still suspect John Walsh's motives in THIS case, because I dont' think an interview with Scott was necessary if all he really wanted to do was to help find Laci. That's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this part

It wouldn't matter to me what JW's motives might be. Getting the story of my missing loved one on national TV would be the important thing. I'm sure it wasn't only the way Scott blew him off that convinced John of Scott's guilt, there were other signs. It makes sense to me that John wouldn't bother to go forward with or without an interview with Scott...he knew it was too late to "find" Laci alive.

[Mysteri]

Marc Klass is PURE CLASS, all the way !!

Later in the interview, Rowlands tells Peterson that victim advocates Marc Klass and John Walsh had questioned Peterson's actions in this case.

Peterson: "I have had conversations with both those gentlemen. It is entirely
too selfish of me to defend myself against these accusations. All
the media time should be spent on finding Laci."

Marc Klass would later responded to Peterson's comments.

Klass: "There is no ambiguity in this. I have never in my life spoken to
Scott Peterson. Where he comes off thinking he can make a statement
like that in the public forum and get away with it, I don't know.
It's not the first time. Who does this guy think he is that he can
make these statements, and that they'll go public, and they're obvious lies?"


http://www.statementanalysis.com/speterson/

Just read that SLP is in deep trouble for doing drugs in Q

imo

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by Mysteri

Marc Klass is PURE CLASS, all the way !!

Later in the interview, Rowlands tells Peterson that victim advocates Marc Klass and John Walsh had questioned Peterson's actions in this case.

Peterson: "I have had conversations with both those gentlemen. It is entirely
too selfish of me to defend myself against these accusations. All
the media time should be spent on finding Laci."

Marc Klass would later responded to Peterson's comments.

Klass: "There is no ambiguity in this. I have never in my life spoken to
Scott Peterson. Where he comes off thinking he can make a statement
like that in the public forum and get away with it, I don't know.
It's not the first time. Who does this guy think he is that he can
make these statements, and that they'll go public, and they're obvious lies?"


http://www.statementanalysis.com/speterson/

Just read that SLP is in deep trouble for doing drugs in Q

imo

But Scott never did drugs. Didn't he claim to never even taking an aspirin at one point? I realize that jail time is boring as hell, but still, he has his books and his tv and his cd's to keep him busy. Didn't that article say that he had a "bubba" too? Must be that same one that left the note on his lawn the night of his conviction.

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by Mysteri

Marc Klass is PURE CLASS, all the way !!

Later in the interview, Rowlands tells Peterson that victim advocates Marc Klass and John Walsh had questioned Peterson's actions in this case.

Peterson: "I have had conversations with both those gentlemen. It is entirely
too selfish of me to defend myself against these accusations. All
the media time should be spent on finding Laci."

Marc Klass would later responded to Peterson's comments.

Klass: "There is no ambiguity in this. I have never in my life spoken to
Scott Peterson. Where he comes off thinking he can make a statement
like that in the public forum and get away with it, I don't know.
It's not the first time. Who does this guy think he is that he can
make these statements, and that they'll go public, and they're obvious lies?"


http://www.statementanalysis.com/speterson/

Just read that SLP is in deep trouble for doing drugs in Q

imo

Hey Mysteri, good to see you! Thanks for jogging the memory, I remember Klass saying this and I agree - WHY would ISP get on National TV, knowing the whole world was listening in, and lie like a rug? I thought he wasn't just smart, but REAL smart. I've also read a classic sign of a sociopath is that they'll say (lie) whatever they need to in THAT moment, with no regard for the ramifications later. If I'm understanding this, they're a walking contridiction: Most are very intelligent, yet they do really stupid things.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by onthefence

I don't watch his show anymore. I have empathy and am heartsick for anyone who has lost a child. Can't imagine anything much harder than that. I don't know what Mark Klaas comments are about Scott P, so, I cannot answer this question. I am sure Mark Klaas has an opinion, but, so do most people about this case. His doesn't mean any more to me because he has a daughter that was murdered.

I came across this response before reading to the end of th thread, so my response may be redundant.

DRISP stated that he spoke with Mr. Klaas. Mr. Klaas said it didn't happen. I believe Mr. Klaas. It goes for me to COG, since you aren't aware, may I explain? Mr. K was there to help DRISP get trhough the "cop thing". DRISP would not meet with him. Kinda like his behavior with John Walsh.

His doesn't mean any more to me because he has a daughter that was murdered

That, in my opinion is one the coldest statements ever. *otterturnsthefurnaceon*

I'm still shivering.

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by Lavindar

But Scott never did drugs. Didn't he claim to never even taking an aspirin at one point? I realize that jail time is boring as hell, but still, he has his books and his tv and his cd's to keep him busy. Didn't that article say that he had a "bubba" too? Must be that same one that left the note on his lawn the night of his conviction.

Gee, I don't know how it got here (can't make eye contact), but I'm looking at the Globe article - front page says: "Scott Peterson BUSTED on Death Row" - Caught doing drugs and having GAY SEX with another killer! Plus: What he says about Laci.

It's a really long article, but some of the highlights:

- Providing sexual favors - including oral sex to a very menacing inmate in an attempt to guarantee his safety behind bars.
- Getting high on marijuana that was smuglled into the prison and found hiding in his cell.
- Visited by a mystery woman he's plied (?) with XXX_rated letters and the double murderer claims he's even gotten hot and heavy with her right under the guards noses.

He was busted by prision authorities and sentenced to 40 days of solitary confinement for gay sex and drug offenses. His outrageous behavior came to light in the spring when he was caught romping naked in the showers of an outdoor exercise area with another inmate. Following a basketball game on April 21, one insider says the other inmate blatantly fondled Peterson.

A hearing was set and Peterson's cell was searched a few hours later. That's when a plastic bag containing marijuana was found in an air vent.

His closest friend in prison (aside from gay lover), is Brian Johnsen, another infamous murderer from Modesto. (In the picture, Johnsen looks like a female to me).

"You'd think he'd be professing his innocence just like so many other condemed men on DR" says a source. "You'd think he'd be telling anyone willing to listen that he didn't murder Laci and Conner. But he never mentions Laci or the baby. Never!"

"Mostly he just whines about himself. He's not just a wife-killer and baby-killer, he's a self-centered, heartless creep who cares about himself and nothing else."

[Otter]

Originally Posted by onthefence

why is it that one is labeled a scott supporter simply because I don't care for the way John Walsh handled this particular case? It really shuts down a potentially good discussion of people just expressing opinions.

I stated that I don't watch JW. So ... where would you like this discussion to go? I can't even call him by his first name -- nor do I care for JW's show. What does that label me?

IMO, (if that's okay with you), an "innocent" man threw away a good opportunity to find his missing wife and baby. Squandered it right away. Again, just expressing my opinion on a message board.

So, again, what's your opinion about SP lying about Mark Klaas?

[Trixy]

Originally Posted by Lavindar

I don't think John Walsh needed Scott Peterson to get himself on TV.

That is because he didn't.