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08-03-2007, 11:15 AM
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Mark Geragos' Red Herrings
Just about every Thursday during the trial Mark Geragos would introduce some new item that needed to be checked out - thus meaning no court Friday and a long weekend. This even led to the inclusion of the "Mark Geragos Red Herring Platter - (Usually Half-Baked.)" being included in the Scott Peterson Trial Cookbook.
So, what were Geragos' red herrings? Perhaps we can make a timeline! No need to categorize, they all came to nothing.
I'll start with the tip from "Citizen Q". Next?
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08-03-2007, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by adnoid
Just about every Thursday during the trial Mark Geragos would introduce some new item that needed to be checked out - thus meaning no court Friday and a long weekend. This even led to the inclusion of the "Mark Geragos Red Herring Platter - (Usually Half-Baked.)" being included in the Scott Peterson Trial Cookbook.
So, what were Geragos' red herrings? Perhaps we can make a timeline! No need to categorize, they all came to nothing.
I'll start with the tip from "Citizen Q". Next? |
2 many herrings to choose from -- how about sturgeon?
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08-03-2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by adnoid
Just about every Thursday during the trial Mark Geragos would introduce some new item that needed to be checked out - thus meaning no court Friday and a long weekend. This even led to the inclusion of the "Mark Geragos Red Herring Platter - (Usually Half-Baked.)" being included in the Scott Peterson Trial Cookbook.
So, what were Geragos' red herrings? Perhaps we can make a timeline! No need to categorize, they all came to nothing.
I'll start with the tip from "Citizen Q". Next? |
The plastic bag that wasn't found that close to Laci, but "smelled like death" according to a park employee, I believe. It was touted as "possible exonerating evidence". It was tested and zilch evidence was found.
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08-03-2007, 12:58 PM
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Safe...
Aponte...
Diane Jackson...
the 24th...
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08-03-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by enlightenme
The plastic bag that wasn't found that close to Laci, but "smelled like death" according to a park employee, I believe. It was touted as "possible exonerating evidence". It was tested and zilch evidence was found.
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The RETESTING of the "evidence in the Renfrow brown van. I believe Garegos demanded that again also. I wondered at the time, if he had planted evidence in it, since he owned it at that point. I think you are referring to the "Target" bag that was connected with the construction going on at the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge.
I dont' know if you can consider this a red herring or not, but Garegos not being prepared for the guilty verdict.
Attorneys should always prepare for the worst - particularly when a death penalty is involved.
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08-03-2007, 01:27 PM
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We want those.
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The RETESTING of the "evidence in the Renfrow brown van...
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Ah yes, the dreaded "Barbecue Sauce of Death". Hey Mark - you're supposed to find evidence of MURDER, not MARINADE. Dork.
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08-03-2007, 01:59 PM
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Ah yes, the dreaded "Barbecue Sauce of Death". Hey Mark - you're supposed to find evidence of MURDER, not MARINADE. Dork.
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Ohhh, just remember this one. The bartender who claimed that a juror was in his bar talking about the case. Another red herring. Don't know if we missed any days because of it, but we sure had a short halt in the proceedings.
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08-07-2007, 02:43 PM
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Mmmm, he tried to pass off the brief mention of meringues on Martha Stewart's programme as an entire show on meringues !!
To me the most Enoromous of the fat red herrings was The Battered Croton Watch Ploy...just too bogus for words !! Wrong metal, wrong era , wrong style, wrong condition
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08-07-2007, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mysteri
Mmmm, he tried to pass off the brief mention of meringues on Martha Stewart's programme as an entire show on meringues !!
To me the most Enoromous of the fat red herrings was The Battered Croton Watch Ploy...just too bogus for words !! Wrong metal, wrong era , wrong style, wrong condition
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Like there is only one kind of Croton watch in the Croton line.
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08-07-2007, 04:40 PM
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Posted on Tue, Jun. 29, 2004
By Julia Prodis Sulek
Mercury News
Scott Peterson's lawyer attempted Monday to connect a woman who police said was mentally ill and infatuated with Peterson to the killing of his pregnant wife.
The woman, who had volunteered to walk the Petersons' dog, broke into their home about three weeks after Laci Peterson disappeared, then made herself a Jack Daniel's and Coke, lay on their bed and left with an armful of his clothes, including a pair of his underwear, a detective testified.
Peterson's attorney, Mark Geragos, implied that the woman, along with three of her ``dark-skinned'' male friends -- perhaps in cahoots with Peterson's mistress, Amber Frey -- could have been involved in a kidnap-and-murder plot.
This scenario -- dubbed a ``red herring'' by one legal analyst -- is the latest of several scenarios Geragos has suggested during the monthlong trial to throw suspicion away from his client and create reasonable doubt for the jury. He has accused police of doing little to investigate other suspects -- including homeless people from the nearby park, men who robbed a house across the street from the Petersons' and a mystery person who apparently pawned Laci Peterson's watch.
Geragos has said that the kidnappers held Laci Peterson alive for a week or more before killing her and dumping her in San Francisco Bay to frame Peterson. Peterson, a 31-year-old fertilizer salesman, had told police he had spent Dec. 24, 2002, fishing in the bay and returned home to find her gone. Laci Peterson's body and that of her unborn son washed up separately along the shores of the bay 4 1/2 months later.
Under cross-examination that lasted all day Monday, Modesto police detective Al Brocchini said the mentally ill woman, Kim McGregor, had bipolar disorder and that she told him she hadn't taken her medication when she entered the Peterson home Jan. 19, 2003.
``In my mind, she's eliminated; she's been investigated and I don't think she's involved,'' Brocchini testified.
But Geragos pointed out that the day before Laci Peterson disappeared, McGregor had spent time with her ex-boyfriend and his two roommates, who were all Hawaiian. Geragos asked whether Brocchini investigated these men to see if they could have been the same ``dark-skinned'' men seen in a van on the Petersons' street the morning of the disappearance.
``Did you follow up on any of these people?'' Geragos asked.
``No,'' Brocchini said.
Geragos also asked Brocchini whether he had investigated any link between McGregor purchasing a gift certificate on Dec. 23, 2002, at a Modesto Bodyworks business and the fact that Peterson's mistress, Frey, worked as a massage therapist at a Bodyworks business in Fresno.
``Did you ask Kim McGregor about Amber Frey?'' Geragos asked.
``No,'' Brocchini responded. McGregor, who lived near the Petersons and has a teenage daughter, told Brocchini that she had met Laci Peterson once or twice at neighborhood meetings but didn't meet Scott Peterson until after his wife disappeared. She helped at the volunteer search center and offered to walk the Petersons' dog when Peterson was away.
Midnight break-in
She told police that she had broken a window at the Petersons' home with her coffee mug and went inside after midnight Jan. 19. She got drunk on their whiskey, opened a couple of Christmas presents under their tree and rifled through their closets and drawers, retrieving mostly jackets and sweatshirts and a pair of Peterson's underwear. She also stole a video camera and Laci Peterson's Social Security card.
Brocchini asked her, ``Did you lay on the bed?'' She said yes.
But while Geragos was trying to give jurors yet another explanation for Laci Peterson's disappearance, legal analyst Dean Johnson didn't think much of it.
``If you think about it for a microsecond,'' Johnson said, ``it's not going to go anywhere.''
Because cross-examination lasted all day, Stanislaus County prosecutor Rick Distaso didn't get a chance Monday to ask Brocchini to explain his statement last week that he had ``excised'' a paragraph from his report that could have helped Peterson's defense.
That information -- that a woman had seen Laci Peterson at the warehouse where Peterson kept his boat -- would undermine the prosecution theory that Laci Peterson didn't know her husband had a boat. It also diminishes the significance of a strand of hair that looked like Laci Peterson's in the bottom of the boat -- evidence prosecutors say helps prove Peterson put her dead body in it.
Police admonished
On Friday, a Modesto police spokesman told the Associated Press that Brocchini omitted the paragraph because other police reports noted the same thing and it would be redundant. In court Monday, Judge Alfred Delucchi admonished the Modesto Police Department for violating the gag order on the case.
``If it doesn't stop,'' Delucchi said, ``I'll have to do something about it.''
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08-09-2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Heyes
Posted on Tue, Jun. 29, 2004
By Julia Prodis Sulek
Mercury News
Scott Peterson's lawyer attempted Monday to connect a woman who police said was mentally ill and infatuated with Peterson to the killing of his pregnant wife.
The woman, who had volunteered to walk the Petersons' dog, broke into their home about three weeks after Laci Peterson disappeared, then made herself a Jack Daniel's and Coke, lay on their bed and left with an armful of his clothes, including a pair of his underwear, a detective testified.
Peterson's attorney, Mark Geragos, implied that the woman, along with three of her ``dark-skinned'' male friends -- perhaps in cahoots with Peterson's mistress, Amber Frey -- could have been involved in a kidnap-and-murder plot.
This scenario -- dubbed a ``red herring'' by one legal analyst -- is the latest of several scenarios Geragos has suggested during the monthlong trial to throw suspicion away from his client and create reasonable doubt for the jury. He has accused police of doing little to investigate other suspects -- including homeless people from the nearby park, men who robbed a house across the street from the Petersons' and a mystery person who apparently pawned Laci Peterson's watch.
Geragos has said that the kidnappers held Laci Peterson alive for a week or more before killing her and dumping her in San Francisco Bay to frame Peterson. Peterson, a 31-year-old fertilizer salesman, had told police he had spent Dec. 24, 2002, fishing in the bay and returned home to find her gone. Laci Peterson's body and that of her unborn son washed up separately along the shores of the bay 4 1/2 months later.
Under cross-examination that lasted all day Monday, Modesto police detective Al Brocchini said the mentally ill woman, Kim McGregor, had bipolar disorder and that she told him she hadn't taken her medication when she entered the Peterson home Jan. 19, 2003.
``In my mind, she's eliminated; she's been investigated and I don't think she's involved,'' Brocchini testified.
But Geragos pointed out that the day before Laci Peterson disappeared, McGregor had spent time with her ex-boyfriend and his two roommates, who were all Hawaiian. Geragos asked whether Brocchini investigated these men to see if they could have been the same ``dark-skinned'' men seen in a van on the Petersons' street the morning of the disappearance.
``Did you follow up on any of these people?'' Geragos asked.
``No,'' Brocchini said.
Geragos also asked Brocchini whether he had investigated any link between McGregor purchasing a gift certificate on Dec. 23, 2002, at a Modesto Bodyworks business and the fact that Peterson's mistress, Frey, worked as a massage therapist at a Bodyworks business in Fresno.
``Did you ask Kim McGregor about Amber Frey?'' Geragos asked.
``No,'' Brocchini responded. McGregor, who lived near the Petersons and has a teenage daughter, told Brocchini that she had met Laci Peterson once or twice at neighborhood meetings but didn't meet Scott Peterson until after his wife disappeared. She helped at the volunteer search center and offered to walk the Petersons' dog when Peterson was away.
Midnight break-in
She told police that she had broken a window at the Petersons' home with her coffee mug and went inside after midnight Jan. 19. She got drunk on their whiskey, opened a couple of Christmas presents under their tree and rifled through their closets and drawers, retrieving mostly jackets and sweatshirts and a pair of Peterson's underwear. She also stole a video camera and Laci Peterson's Social Security card.
Brocchini asked her, ``Did you lay on the bed?'' She said yes.
But while Geragos was trying to give jurors yet another explanation for Laci Peterson's disappearance, legal analyst Dean Johnson didn't think much of it.
``If you think about it for a microsecond,'' Johnson said, ``it's not going to go anywhere.''
Because cross-examination lasted all day, Stanislaus County prosecutor Rick Distaso didn't get a chance Monday to ask Brocchini to explain his statement last week that he had ``excised'' a paragraph from his report that could have helped Peterson's defense.
That information -- that a woman had seen Laci Peterson at the warehouse where Peterson kept his boat -- would undermine the prosecution theory that Laci Peterson didn't know her husband had a boat. It also diminishes the significance of a strand of hair that looked like Laci Peterson's in the bottom of the boat -- evidence prosecutors say helps prove Peterson put her dead body in it.
Police admonished
On Friday, a Modesto police spokesman told the Associated Press that Brocchini omitted the paragraph because other police reports noted the same thing and it would be redundant. In court Monday, Judge Alfred Delucchi admonished the Modesto Police Department for violating the gag order on the case.
``If it doesn't stop,'' Delucchi said, ``I'll have to do something about it.''
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I'm just sorry that the Judge didn't say anything to any of the defense spokespeople. He did finally gag Cardoza, but he did nothing to the Peterson family for going on national television DURING the trial.
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08-09-2007, 06:08 PM
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I think they should have gagged Gloria Allred.
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08-09-2007, 06:51 PM
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I think they should have gagged Gloria Allred.
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Hey Luke 
Technically, they probably should have included Allred in the gag order, but personally I highly enjoyed her getting in front of the camera at every opportunity and sending Geragos into the red on the nuts-o meter! 
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08-10-2007, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by adnoid
Just about every Thursday during the trial Mark Geragos would introduce some new item that needed to be checked out - thus meaning no court Friday and a long weekend. This even led to the inclusion of the "Mark Geragos Red Herring Platter - (Usually Half-Baked.)" being included in the Scott Peterson Trial Cookbook.
So, what were Geragos' red herrings? Perhaps we can make a timeline! No need to categorize, they all came to nothing.
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Just a curious question that I should know the answer to since I live in California but do they even hold court on Friday? Maybe it was just the judge who over saw the case I was drafted for (jury duty) who believed in "no Court Sessions on Friday"????? 
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08-10-2007, 03:11 AM
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Just a curious question that I should know the answer to since I live in California but do they even hold court on Friday? |
Nope, generally Court is not held on Friday which is why MG wanted Thursday off for this reason and that, so he could have a long weekend.
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08-10-2007, 03:20 AM
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Nope, generally Court is not held on Friday which is why MG wanted Thursday off for this reason and that, so he could have a long weekend.
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Bahaaaa - so I missed the Thursday connotation- My bad -
California Judges usually hold trials Monday thru Thursday - no Friday's.
MG wanted Thursday's off - just because ~~~~~
Got it!  LOL!
Lesson learned - I shouldn't post after 11 PM (when I'm to tired to think)!
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08-10-2007, 09:46 AM
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Bahaaaa - so I missed the Thursday connotation- My bad -
California Judges usually hold trials Monday thru Thursday - no Friday's.
MG wanted Thursday's off - just because ~~~~~
Got it! LOL!
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Hey Snoopster! I was wondering where you've been.
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08-10-2007, 02:20 PM
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Just a curious question that I should know the answer to since I live in California but do they even hold court on Friday? Maybe it was just the judge who over saw the case I was drafted for (jury duty) who believed in "no Court Sessions on Friday"????? |
It was the descretion of this judge. I guess it's not uncommon in high profile cases.
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