Trey York - Things to say "hmmmm" to.

[nobody]

I thought this might be more fun than anything. Let's just recount all of the interesting things that made us raise our eyebrow about suspect #2. That's all.

I would suggest that you just make each entry a one/two liner with brief detail.

[nobody]

Spilled coke in car - spilled coke in Nona's house. Everyone loves Coke.

[hawgustusgloop]

He claimed to have spilled Coke in his car on the day of the murder.

Oops. nobody beat me......

He claimed to want to return a cake pan to Nona on the day of her murder.

[nobody]

Nona's mom bakes a cake - Trey eats it. Trey really wants to return it before he leaves for holiday - but says "nevermind" and leaves for home. Did Nona's mom ever get her cake pan back?

[hawgustusgloop]

He possibly wore "things" on his wrists.

[hawgustusgloop]

He said his biology test was at 8:30 but other students said it was 8:00 (I may have that reversed).

[nobody]

Nona's dad mentioned that someone from one of Nona's study group had been harassing her. Someone from Nona's study group is supposedly asked to leave, during study. Oh, wait - Trey was in one of her study groups. But - she was just using him for grades.

[hawgustusgloop]

He said he suspected Nona was using him for a good grade in biology.

[nobody]

Originally Posted by hawgustusgloop

He possibly wore "things" on his wrists.

According to the neighbor - he was a "door banger" - maybe he should have just gone to the back sliding door and opened it that day.

[hawgustusgloop]

It has been RUMORED he had an attorney with him during questioning.

[nobody]

His first exam starts at 0830 - according to him, but he arrives at Paradise donuts at 09:00.
Wow! Quickest test ever! I wonder if he did better than Nona in that test.

[hawgustusgloop]

Remember, he is Jim York III. Namesakes bring a lot of pressure to live up to the family legacy. He could have been stressed about this, along with finals, packing up to go home for the holidays, etc. It can really all add up.

[nobody]

For the record - he and Nona were the grand masters of text messages in November and December. Good thing he broke off the relationship - so, he would have time to study!

[nobody]

If he doesn't recognize your number - he might have to borrow his friend's phone to call you back. Sooooo secret - he doesn't want strange numbers on his phone.

[hawgustusgloop]

And the door banger reportedly wore a cap, too. Coincidence?

[lorettalockhorn]

Originally Posted by nobody

I thought this might be more fun than anything. Let's just recount all of the interesting things that made us raise our eyebrow about suspect #2. That's all.

I would suggest that you just make each entry a one/two liner with brief detail.

Wait! I'm late to your game. First, I want to know by whose enumeration system is York suspect #2? IIRC, while the jury was supposed to be deliberating, but was instead playing armchair detective, Jared? was a suspect, along with DD and JM that have been here mentioned ad nauseum, ad infinitum.

[LurkerNoMore]

He was attempting to communicate with Nona via text message ALL AROUND the alleged time of her death. "Give me a call please." "Never Mind." "Please call me. I heard something was wrong and I'm worried." Innocent, or easy way to make it look like he wasn't there and didn't know what happened?

[optimumprimal78]

I don't get it. First it was Jared. Then it was Trey. Who else could be considered?

[LurkerNoMore]

Originally Posted by optimumprimal78

I don't get it. First it was Jared. Then it was Trey. Who else could be considered?

Fueled by logic, testimony at the trial, reports from the trial, those text messages, those wrist bands, his Mustang, and that coke spill, just Trey now, baby. Just Trey. IMO.

[Manning]

Originally Posted by nobody

Spilled coke in car - spilled coke in Nona's house. Everyone loves Coke.

IIRC - I read somewhere in one of the 6000+ post that Nona's mother told LE that the coke spill in Nona's apartment was there when Nona moved in and that they hadn't painted or done anything about the coke stain in the apartment.

So to me to coke stain in the apartment has nothing to do with anything.

[hawgustusgloop]

Remember how it was reported that Trey said he didn't feel comfortable (or something similar) having sex with Nona?

Maybe Trey went to visit her that day and she tried to get him into bed as soon as he walked in the door. Maybe he acquiesced in the beginning, even to the point of opening up a condom and putting it on. At some point, though, he just wasn't ready but Nona wouldn't take no for an answer. He felt so uncomfortable that he flew into a rage, angry at her for what he felt she was trying to pressure him into doing and unable to deal with his feelings, and killed her. Afraid, he hurriedly left without removing the condom (yet remembering to grab a cake pan from the oven for alibi purposes) and without picking up the wrapper that was left on the counter. His clothes had no blood on them, but he did manage to get some blood in his car, which he cleaned up and claimed was a coke stain. He took the stick to fight off any ninjas he may have encountered on the way to clean up the stain in his car, and deposited the stick, the cake pan, and the condom in the garbage at the car wash.

[hawgustusgloop]

Originally Posted by Manning

IIRC - I read somewhere in one of the 6000+ post that Nona's mother told LE that the coke spill in Nona's apartment was there when Nona moved in and that they hadn't painted or done anything about the coke stain in the apartment.

So to me to coke stain in the apartment has nothing to do with anything.

I think you are correct about what Nona's mom said and I agree with the rest of your post.

[LurkerNoMore]

Originally Posted by Manning

IIRC - I read somewhere in one of the 6000+ post that Nona's mother told LE that the coke spill in Nona's apartment was there when Nona moved in and that they hadn't painted or done anything about the coke stain in the apartment.

So to me to coke stain in the apartment has nothing to do with anything.

I agree. And who knows if coke was really what required cleaning in the car. IMO.

[nobody]

Originally Posted by LurkerNoMore

I agree. And who knows if coke was really what required cleaning in the car. IMO.

Are we talking about the same coke spill in the apartment? I remember mention of a substance on a table near the sliding glass door - it had spilled on the table and run off onto the floor.

[nobody]

Paradise donuts is about half the distance between ATU and Nona's apartment. Isn't there any closer donuts - like say, the Russellville mall? Maybe theirs' are not so good?

It's not like he needed to study or anything - what is a little further drive?

[nobody]

Only two people were fingerprinted - Kevin Jones and Trey York. Jones was already there - so, it was convenient. The authorities went out of their way to fingerprint York.

[nobody]

Who stays all night at a girls house and only kisses? One thing usually leads to another. Maybe he was more of a romantic?

[nobody]

Zack Walker testified that he thought that Nona and Trey York had a dating relationship. He learned about 10pm on the 15th that Nona was found in a pool of blood and relayed that to York at about 10:15.

York waits to send a text message to Nona at 9:18am on the 16th saying that he was worried about her.

Walker called York between 10 and 11am (within 2hrs of his sent text) that morning to say that Nona was dead and York told him that he already knew.

[nobody]

Originally Posted by nobody

Zack Walker testified that he thought that Nona and Trey York had a dating relationship. He learned about 10pm on the 15th that Nona was found in a pool of blood and relayed that to York at about 10:15.

York waits to send a text message to Nona at 9:18am on the 16th saying that he was worried about her.

Walker called York between 10 and 11am (within 2hrs of his sent text) that morning to say that Nona was dead and York told him that he already knew.

Johnson, who told jurors in opening arguments Zack Walker called York and told him Dirksmeyer was dead the night of Dec. 15, asked York to show him on York’s cell phone records when Walker called him and when he returned Walker’s call. Neither York nor Johnson seemed to be able to identify any calls from or to Walker on the records for Dec. 15.
York later said he didn’t receive a call about Dirksmeyer until the next morning.

[nobody]

"According to Trey, it was Nona that visited his dorm room two or three times a week until around Thanksgiving when they both became too busy."

Too busy? I thought the reason you broke it off is because she was using you, to get better grades.

[nobody]

I would have never considered turning the heat off in Nona's apartment - especially in the middle of December. However, the killer I suspect did. That person must have been smart to science - knowing that turning off the heat would chill Nona's body quicker, delaying Rigor Mortis - possibly making investigators to think that the attack occured at a later time in the day.

On a different note: I wonder what Trey's degree was - with his Grandpa being a Doctor, maybe he was following a family tradition?

[FDInLaw]

Gosh, this poor Trey kid. I still don't see any evidence that actually ties him to the crime. I hope he and his family are oblivious to the existence of this site. In my mind, Trey is just that latest victim of the "anyone but Kevin" group. JMO

[hawgustusgloop]

Originally Posted by FDInLaw

Gosh, this poor Trey kid. I still don't see any evidence that actually ties him to the crime. I hope he and his family are oblivious to the existence of this site. In my mind, Trey is just that latest victim of the "anyone but Kevin" group. JMO

What annoys me are the people saying he has no alibi or didn't present one at the trial. Of course, there wasn't a parade of witnesses corroborating Trey's whereabouts at K.Jo's murder trial. Because it was K.Jo's murder trial, not anyone else's. The prosecutor came out and said they had several suspects and they were all alibied. I would imagine this includes Trey.

BTW, welcome back, and I like your location, FDInLaw!

[FDInLaw]

Originally Posted by hawgustusgloop

What annoys me are the people saying he has no alibi or didn't present one at the trial. Of course, there wasn't a parade of witnesses corroborating Trey's whereabouts at K.Jo's murder trial. Because it was K.Jo's murder trial, not anyone else's. The prosecutor came out and said they had several suspects and they were all alibied. I would imagine this includes Trey.

BTW, welcome back, and I like your location, FDInLaw!

ITA. The defense did their job and made every effort to keep Kevin from being the one on trial. With all the things they managed to have blocked, the jury only got part of the picture. I'm still confused about why that the PA was not allowed to call witnesses to show that Kevin lied to the police. Should Nona's Mother pursue a civil trial, I'm convinced that the verdict will be different since Kevin's attorneys won't have as much wiggle room. We'll have to wait and see!

[nobody]

Originally Posted by nobody

Nona's mom bakes a cake - Trey eats it. Trey really wants to return it before he leaves for holiday - but says "nevermind" and leaves for home. Did Nona's mom ever get her cake pan back?

Facts:
Traces of Nona's blood were found on the oven.
Cake pans are typically for cooking in ovens.
Trey had her cake pan and wanted to return it that day.

Opinions:
Nona didn't have a chance to stumble through the kitchen, touching the oven, smearing blood herself. KJ would have had no foreseeable reason to touch her oven that day. Who else would come over to visit ND's kitchen that day? My theory - this evidence is directly linked to the real killer.

[nobody]

Curriculum in Geology
(Professional Option)
Freshman Year Hours
Orientation to Physical Science (PHSC 1001) 1
English Composition I, II (ENGL 1013, 1023)1 6
Regional Geography (GEOG 2013)1 3
General Psychology (PSY 2003)1 3
Physical Geology (GEOL 1014) 4
Historical Geology (GEOL 2024) 4
College Algebra (MATH 1113) 3
Plane Trigonometry (MATH 1203) 3
Physical Education1 2
Biology1 4
Total 33

Sophomore Year
Social Sciences (POLS 2003, AMST 2003) 6
General Chemistry I, II (CHEM 2124, 2134) 8
Mineralogy (GEOL 3014) 4
Invertebrate Paleontology (GEOL 3124) 4
Petrology (GEOL 3164) 4
Electives 3
Seminar (GEOL 2001) 1
Engineering Graphics (ENGR 1002) 2
Total 32

Junior Year
Fine Arts1 3 ?
Seminar (GEOL 3001) 1
Structural Geology (GEOL 3004) 4
Geologic Field Techniques (GEOL 3023) 3
Geomorphology (GEOL 3044) 4
Physical Principles I, II (PHYS 2014, 2024) 8
Introduction to Computer Based Systems (COMS 1003) or FORTRAN Programming (COMS 1103) or Calculus I (MATH 2914) or Introduction to Statistical Methods (MATH 2163) 3-4
Electives 3-4
Total 30

Summer after Junior Year (or Senior Year)
Field Geology (GEOL 4006) 6
Total 6

Senior Year
Humanities (ENGL 2003 or PHIL2003) 3
Principles of Stratigraphy and Sedimentation (GEOL 4023) 3
Seminar (GEOL 4001) 1
Electives (6 hours must be 3000/4000 level) 17
Total 24


Curriculum in Geology
(Environmental Option)
Freshman Year Hours
Orientation to Physical Science (PHSC 1001) 1
English Composition I, II (ENGL 1013, 1023)1 6
Principles of Economics (ECON 2003)1 3
General Psychology (PSY 2003)1 3
Physical Geology (GEOL 1014) 4
Historical Geology (GEOL 2024) 4
Principles of Environmental Science (PHSC 1004) 4
College Algebra (MATH 1113) 3
Microcomputer Applications (COMS 2003) 3
Physical Education1 2
Total 33

Sophomore Year
Social Sciences (POLS 2003, AMST 2003) 6
Survey of Chemistry (CHEM 1114) 4
Mineralogy (GEOL 3014) 4
Petrology (GEOL 3164) 4
Environmental Chemistry (CHEM 2143) 3
Technical Communication (ENGL 2053) 3
Introduction to Biological Science (BIOL 1014) 4
Statistics (MATH 2163 or PSY 2053) 3
Environmental Seminar (GEOL 2111) 1
Total 32

Junior Year
Fine Arts1 3
Environmental Seminar (GEOL 3111) 1
Structural Geology (GEOL 3004) 4
Geologic Field Techniques (GEOL 3023) 3
Geomorphology (GEOL 3044) 4
Environmental Geology (GEOL 3153) 3
Physical Principles (PHYS 2014, 2024) 8
Elective (3000-4000 level) 3
Engineering Graphics (ENGR 1002) 2
Total 31

Senior Year
Humanities (ENGL 2003 or PHIL 2003) 3
Geographic Information Systems (FW 4034) 4
Environmental Seminar (GEOL 4111) 1
Fundamentals of Organic Chemistry (CHEM 3254) 4
Hydrogeology (GEOL 3083) 3
Conservation (BIOL 3043) 3
Electives (Geology, Mathematics, Biology, Chemistry) 11
Total 29

York said he was a senior at 20 - I am really impressed. Surely he stuck with it and graduated - I don't know.

Reference: http://pls.atu.edu/physci/geology/degrees.htm

[nobody]

http://www.ashdownschools.org/alumni20005.htm

[lorettalockhorn]

>>Is it possible to be a senior geology major at 20yrs old?

Wouldn't that depend on how old you were when you graduated from HS? And/or how many hours you may have tested out of? We need to find out this guy's birth date and/or get a copy of his birth certificate!!!!!! We need to get a copy of his class schedule and/or transcript.

[nobody]

I was leading up to - did he ever graduate? I've searched for evidence - but came up with nothing. He was so close to finishing his degree at such a young age - did this investigation scare him away from the university? He seems to have vanished - I think I would to.

Oh, and according to his highschool - he graduated in May 05'. Just for consideration - if he had stayed on track, he would have just now past his two year mark - that's pretty quick.

[ladykrystal]

why did he decide all of a sudden to skip his exam