Evidence that points straight to Scott

[adnoid]

Pretty much all of it. To start:

--Precognition of his first Christmas without his wife;

--Purchase of the secret boat;

--Lack of grief over the loss of Laci;

--Continuing the relationship with Amber;

--Hiding his face from the media.

[TopGunner]

I agree with everything you said Adnoid. It ALL points only to ISP and to nobody else. The burglars are the desperate "out" for the NG's IMO, but it's just all so ridiculous, I rarely bother posting about them.

Aside from the obvious that you listed, what HORRIFIED me personally was his complete and utter lack of emotion. And I'm not talking about drama, hysterics or any of that. I'm talking about COLD, DARK. He didn't care AT ALL that Laci was missing. He didn't care AT ALL that everyone around him was utterly shattered.

He sat down to Christmas dinner - with an invited guest! He partied in Paris! He made flirtini's hoping to pick up his sister's babysitter, he sold the Landrover, tried selling the house FURNISHED when Laci was only gone for a week! He wouldn't give Sharon ANYTHING that belonged to Laci, and he lied, lied, lied to everyone. Even on National TV, he looked Sawyer right in the eye and said "I told the cops about Amber the very first night", didn't even bat an eyelash.

He never looked for her, never begged for her return, he wouldn't even meet with John Walsh, the ONE person that really could have helped.

In all my years on earth, I have never encountered such calculating evil.

He is not even human, literally.

[Sturgeon_Moon]

I agree with both post. Elementary really.

imo

[One2Snoop]

Laci and Conner's bodies washing ashore where Scott was fishing. No getting past that one IMO.

[enlightenme]

All good points everyone but my big list starts like this:


Fishing license bought for 2 specific days that was mentioned to no one until LE asked for it in the search warrant of 12/25/02.

Boat cover moved to the furthest shed from the house and put underneath a leaking leaf blower (which was not proven to be used recently) at the time of the second search warrant - 12/26/02.

FIVE trips to the bay by Scott, in rental cars, lying about where he was to family and friends. He caught on to being followed and tried to evade LE.

Lying to a search center volunteer (because he did not return her call for days) about being in grief counseling in the hills, with NO phones.

Calling Amber right before the New Year's Eve vigil for his MISSING and possilby tortured, dead, sick wife and joking up with Amber about being in at the Effiel Tower with "American Pop Music" being played.

Cancelling his hard core porn (actually his whole cable package) with yet another lie about going out of the country. He KNEW this would look bad to LE to have it but it actually looked WORSE that he cancelled it during the search warrant.

There's soooo much more!

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by enlightenme

All good points everyone but my big list starts like this:


Fishing license bought for 2 specific days that was mentioned to no one until LE asked for it in the search warrant of 12/25/02.

Boat cover moved to the furthest shed from the house and put underneath a leaking leaf blower (which was not proven to be used recently) at the time of the second search warrant - 12/26/02.

FIVE trips to the bay by Scott, in rental cars, lying about where he was to family and friends. He caught on to being followed and tried to evade LE.

Lying to a search center volunteer (because he did not return her call for days) about being in grief counseling in the hills, with NO phones.

Calling Amber right before the New Year's Eve vigil for his MISSING and possilby tortured, dead, sick wife and joking up with Amber about being in at the Effiel Tower with "American Pop Music" being played.

Cancelling his hard core porn (actually his whole cable package) with yet another lie about going out of the country. He KNEW this would look bad to LE to have it but it actually looked WORSE that he cancelled it during the search warrant.

There's soooo much more!

I think you could write a book and fill it with his lies. It got to be like if his mouth was open, he was lying.

[accordn2me]

What does she say about when the bodies were discovered? Something like Scott did not go back or even call to see if they'd found his wife and son. For her that was a very powerful affirmation that Scott was the killer.

[frydaddy]

Originally Posted by Sturgeon_Moon

I agree with both post. Elementary really.

imo

Elemantary indeed!

As are all the posts on this thread!

[rachelslaw]

Originally Posted by One2Snoop

Laci and Conner's bodies washing ashore where Scott was fishing. No getting past that one IMO.

That one was always the deal breaker for me above all else. Of all the incriminating circumstances, that particular one was the final straw. Adding ALL of the circumstancial evidence including this undeniable fact indicates clearly to me that Scott and no other person killed Laci.

IMO

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by rachelslaw

That one was always the deal breaker for me above all else. Of all the incriminating circumstances, that particular one was the final straw. Adding ALL of the circumstancial evidence including this undeniable fact indicates clearly to me that Scott and no other person killed Laci.

IMO

There is no other REASONABLE explanation for who killed her. Operative word being REASONABLE.

All other theories involve contact by Laci with people she would not have run into. She would not have marched out of her house and confronted a burglar - not a woman as pregnant (and therefore vulnerable) as she was. She was a member of neighborhood watch - they tell you to call police about ANY suspicious activity. She would not have left the house unlocked while she would be gone for 45 minutes walking the dog. She would not go to walk the dog without a coat in 41 degree, hazy weather.

She would NOT have endangered that baby.

[rachelslaw]

Originally Posted by Lavindar

There is no other REASONABLE explanation for who killed her. Operative word being REASONABLE.

All other theories involve contact by Laci with people she would not have run into. She would not have marched out of her house and confronted a burglar - not a woman as pregnant (and therefore vulnerable) as she was. She was a member of neighborhood watch - they tell you to call police about ANY suspicious activity. She would not have left the house unlocked while she would be gone for 45 minutes walking the dog. She would not go to walk the dog without a coat in 41 degree, hazy weather.

She would NOT have endangered that baby.

Absolutely true, ALL of what you said. On the outside chance that a home invasion occured and she was taken from her home, there would be evidence of a struggle, which there was not.

IMO

[Wearing A Halo]

"It was a morning decision" to go golfing; no-it was to go fishing; no-it was to go boating. Actually, it was to murder and dispose Laci (Connor just came along for the ride). There was no actual conversation between DRISP and Laci that morning-none that DRISP ever acknowledged. It was a to-do-list of communication between the two...'I did this, was gonna do that, was going there....she did this, was gonna do that and was going there.' Intimate details were left out that would be vital to the "missing" investigation. The only intimate detail he saves for Sharon. In a phone call with Sharon on December 28th, DRISP said, “that she (Laci) looked so cute because she was sitting on her bench in front of the mirror styling her hair the way Amy had shown her.” (IMO, this is when DRISP strangled her with the cord of the curling iron; wrapped around her neck twice for good measure).


DRISP never said 'good bye' to Laci. As he starts his 90+ mile/1.5 hr drive, he never calls her to check up on her and just touch base. He calls her after and leaves a clever message-("I was hoping you get this message").

Once he gets to Modesto, he "forgets" to leave the three patio umbrellas which happens to match the color of the pants Laci is found in.

Now at home, according to interviews with Det. Brocchini and DOJ Special Agent Mansfield, he does everything sdrawkcab-ssa. DRISP is not one to wait on any type of communication gizmo and he checks the messages last.

(to be continued)

[frydaddy]

Originally Posted by Wearing A Halo

"It was a morning decision" to go golfing; no-it was to go fishing; no-it was to go boating. Actually, it was to murder and dispose Laci (Connor just came along for the ride). There was no actual conversation between DRISP and Laci that morning-none that DRISP ever acknowledged. It was a to-do-list of communication between the two...'I did this, was gonna do that, was going there....she did this, was gonna do that and was going there.' Intimate details were left out that would be vital to the "missing" investigation. The only intimate detail he saves for Sharon. In a phone call with Sharon on December 28th, DRISP said, “that she (Laci) looked so cute because she was sitting on her bench in front of the mirror styling her hair the way Amy had shown her.” (IMO, this is when DRISP strangled her with the cord of the curling iron; wrapped around her neck twice for good measure).


DRISP never said 'good bye' to Laci. As he starts his 90+ mile/1.5 hr drive, he never calls her to check up on her and just touch base. He calls her after and leaves a clever message-("I was hoping you get this message").

Once he gets to Modesto, he "forgets" to leave the three patio umbrellas which happens to match the color of the pants Laci is found in.

Now at home, according to interviews with Det. Brocchini and DOJ Special Agent Mansfield, he does everything sdrawkcab-ssa. DRISP is not one to wait on any type of communication gizmo and he checks the messages last.

(to be continued)

Stellar point...absolutely brilliant!

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by accordn2me

What does she say about when the bodies were discovered? Something like Scott did not go back or even call to see if they'd found his wife and son. For her that was a very powerful affirmation that Scott was the killer.

You know what Acorn? The first time they thought they found Laci, when it was the anchor, he was conveniently "out of town", nobody knew where he was or when he'd be back. Just a big 'ol whistle of "man that was close!" could be heard from the murderer.

The second time, when they did find his murdered family, he ran AWAY from them AGAIN.

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by accordn2me

What does she say about when the bodies were discovered? Something like Scott did not go back or even call to see if they'd found his wife and son. For her that was a very powerful affirmation that Scott was the killer.

Didn't Anne Bird say in her book that Scott was on his way to her house when the news broke about the bodies and he turned and went south to San Diego instead?

[TopGunner]

I'm watching that A&E Video...

I cut my hands reaching into the truck.

I cut my hands everyday handing out flyers...

Well, HA!

We KNOW he didn't hand out any flyers, they were all found in the back of his truck.

I have 4 dogs, 2 cats, and a bird. I do all my own yard work with mowers, blowers, hedge trimmers, and the like. I use every type of garden tool imaginable. I am very physically active on my job. As I type, I am laying down a new wooden floor in the family room.

I cannot remember the last time I "cut my hands" and what inquiring minds wanna know is why didn't all the hundreds of people that really DID hand out flyers, cut their hands?

What a freak!

[Mysteri]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

I agree with everything you said Adnoid. It ALL points only to ISP and to nobody else. The burglars are the desperate "out" for the NG's IMO, but it's just all so ridiculous, I rarely bother posting about them.

Aside from the obvious that you listed, what HORRIFIED me personally was his complete and utter lack of emotion. And I'm not talking about drama, hysterics or any of that. I'm talking about COLD, DARK. He didn't care AT ALL that Laci was missing. He didn't care AT ALL that everyone around him was utterly shattered.

He sat down to Christmas dinner - with an invited guest! He partied in Paris! He made flirtini's hoping to pick up his sister's babysitter, he sold the Landrover, tried selling the house FURNISHED when Laci was only gone for a week! He wouldn't give Sharon ANYTHING that belonged to Laci, and he lied, lied, lied to everyone. Even on National TV, he looked Sawyer right in the eye and said "I told the cops about Amber the very first night", didn't even bat an eyelash.

He never looked for her, never begged for her return, he wouldn't even meet with John Walsh, the ONE person that really could have helped.

In all my years on earth, I have never encountered such calculating evil.

He is not even human, literally.

Kudos !!!

Outstanding summation of the stone cold killer convicted of unspeakable evil.

At first I thought he might jump up and shout, 'I didn't commit these horrific killings !' Or 'How could I have done that to my glorious wife and baby?'

But he was as cold as a coal miner's lunch. Didn't turn a hair and in fact did a lot of glam type posing in the court room in his designer ties and coordinated shirts, with the calculated sneer. He played to the cameras in his boundless vanity.

imo

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

I'm watching that A&E Video...

I cut my hands reaching into the truck.

I cut my hands everyday handing out flyers...

Well, HA!

We KNOW he didn't hand out any flyers, they were all found in the back of his truck.

I have 4 dogs, 2 cats, and a bird. I do all my own yard work with mowers, blowers, hedge trimmers, and the like. I use every type of garden tool imaginable. I am very physically active on my job. As I type, I am laying down a new wooden floor in the family room.

I cannot remember the last time I "cut my hands" and what inquiring minds wanna know is why didn't all the hundreds of people that really DID hand out flyers, cut their hands?

What a freak!

Didn't he claim that he cut it on his tool box that morning? The tool box was tested and there was NO DNA on it. IF he had cut his hand on it enough to bleed (his knuckles?), there would have been dna on that toolbox.

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by Mysteri

Kudos !!!

Outstanding summation of the stone cold killer convicted of unspeakable evil.

At first I thought he might jump up and shout, 'I didn't commit these horrific killings !' Or 'How could I have done that to my glorious wife and baby?'

But he was as cold as a coal miner's lunch. Didn't turn a hair and in fact did a lot of glam type posing in the court room in his designer ties and coordinated shirts, with the calculated sneer. He played to the cameras in his boundless vanity.

imo

HUBRIS!!!!

[Pampster]

Originally Posted by Lavindar

Didn't he claim that he cut it on his tool box that morning? The tool box was tested and there was NO DNA on it. IF he had cut his hand on it enough to bleed (his knuckles?), there would have been dna on that toolbox.

He also blamed it on some other guy:

"Men, we cut each other and we bleed".

[Mysteri]

Originally Posted by Lavindar

HUBRIS!!!!

How very fitting! It defines the I'm Entitled to It ALL shallowness that is SLP.

imo

[Mysteri]

Originally Posted by Wearing A Halo

"It was a morning decision" to go golfing; no-it was to go fishing; no-it was to go boating. Actually, it was to murder and dispose Laci (Connor just came along for the ride). There was no actual conversation between DRISP and Laci that morning-none that DRISP ever acknowledged. It was a to-do-list of communication between the two...'I did this, was gonna do that, was going there....she did this, was gonna do that and was going there.' Intimate details were left out that would be vital to the "missing" investigation. The only intimate detail he saves for Sharon. In a phone call with Sharon on December 28th, DRISP said, “that she (Laci) looked so cute because she was sitting on her bench in front of the mirror styling her hair the way Amy had shown her.” (IMO, this is when DRISP strangled her with the cord of the curling iron; wrapped around her neck twice for good measure).


DRISP never said 'good bye' to Laci. As he starts his 90+ mile/1.5 hr drive, he never calls her to check up on her and just touch base. He calls her after and leaves a clever message-("I was hoping you get this message").

Once he gets to Modesto, he "forgets" to leave the three patio umbrellas which happens to match the color of the pants Laci is found in.

Now at home, according to interviews with Det. Brocchini and DOJ Special Agent Mansfield, he does everything sdrawkcab-ssa. DRISP is not one to wait on any type of communication gizmo and he checks the messages last.

(to be continued)

Loud applause ! Smashing !

It was jarring that he didn't call her from the marina. They weren't married THAT long and were expecting their first child. He was far too cavalier for a caring husband in the circs.

imo

[Otter]

I'm so frustrated with this board. That being said, I enjoy watching old CSI's on Spiketv and its on now! Yay for me! Anyway ... I wonder what SP's advocates would think of themselves if they really had to thing logically.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/s...ly-31-5355.php

If they could only hear themselves. Sigh. Not gonna happen, more's the pity. Evil has great power, and evil has made eyes go blind and ears go deaf. And SP has been binded by evil.

This is, of course my opinion only.

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by Otter

I'm so frustrated with this board. That being said, I enjoy watching old CSI's on Spiketv and its on now! Yay for me! Anyway ... I wonder what SP's advocates would think of themselves if they really had to thing logically.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/s...ly-31-5355.php

If they could only hear themselves. Sigh. Not gonna happen, more's the pity. Evil has great power, and evil has made eyes go blind and ears go deaf. And SP has been binded by evil.

This is, of course my opinion only.

Sociopaths are great actors Otter - the literally morph into whatever they feel is necessary in that moment, to get what they want. When they no longer need someone/something, they disgard it - no regret, no remorse, no conscious at all.

I agree - it's sinister. How I'd love to know how ISP got that way. His sense of entitlement is easy to figure out, but the rest -- who knows. He was always aloof, nobody really knew him...maybe that right there was a sign.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

Sociopaths are great actors Otter - the literally morph into whatever they feel is necessary in that moment, to get what they want. When they no longer need someone/something, they disgard it - no regret, no remorse, no conscious at all.

I agree - it's sinister. How I'd love to know how ISP got that way. His sense of entitlement is easy to figure out, but the rest -- who knows. He was always aloof, nobody really knew him...maybe that right there was a sign.

I heard something about sociopaths years ago, before SP, that they would make terrific soldiers/snipers in a war zone. And it made so much sense! This feeling of invincibility couplied with a curiosity of someone trying to kill them that they become utterly fearless. The commentator went on to say that it couldn't work because of the "team" concept, but it was a clear description.

Nature/nurture -- the endless debate. I'd venture that SP is evil. Nothing would have changed his heart, but he was given the proverbial "green light" by his parents. Not that they intended him to become what he did.

UGH!

I should make "UGH" my sig. The whole thing is scary, disgusting and tragic.

[accordn2me]

Since the appeals thread is getting really long and taking all sorts of twists and turns....I'd like to bring this issue here and ask everyone:

What do you think the "deposits" most likely are?

1. barnacles

2. concrete

3. rocks from the shoreline

4. urine

5. other

I have to go with concrete because even though the ME said he didn't know the difference between freshwater barnacles...which don't exist... versus saltwater barnacles...I kinda think he knows a barnacle versus something else. So, in case it's not obvious, I believe the deposits are from one of the concrete anchors used to weight Laci's body. I'd like to hear the other theories...and if you choose "other" specify what if you will.

Mahalo!

[Miss Bootsie]

Originally Posted by accordn2me

Since the appeals thread is getting really long and taking all sorts of twists and turns....I'd like to bring this issue here and ask everyone:

What do you think the "deposits" most likely are?

1. barnacles

2. concrete

3. rocks from the shoreline

4. urine

5. other

I have to go with concrete because even though the ME said he didn't know the difference between freshwater barnacles...which don't exist... versus saltwater barnacles...I kinda think he knows a barnacle versus something else. So, in case it's not obvious, I believe the deposits are from one of the concrete anchors used to weight Laci's body. I'd like to hear the other theories...and if you choose "other" specify what if you will.

Mahalo!

Because the stony deposits were not crystalline, my first choice is that the deposits were associated with the silt in SF Bay. i.e. - Shale

Shale: A fine-grained sedimentary rock formed by the consolidation of clay, silt, or mud

Again, because the stones were not crystalline, my second choice is, small particles of rock worn into tiny pieces on the shoreline.

I found this statement by Dr. P. interesting.

PETERSON: Normally it is. I guess it would depend on the object. For example, if a body were found in an, on a surface where there were a lot of small stones, and there were a lot of small stones stuck on the body, we wouldn't necessarily collect them all.

[accordn2me]

Originally Posted by Miss Bootsie

Because the stony deposits were not crystalline, my first choice is that the deposits were associated with the silt in SF Bay. i.e. - Shale



Again, because the stones were not crystalline, my second choice is, small particles of rock worn into tiny pieces on the shoreline.

I found this statement by Dr. P. interesting.

Good theory! I'd love to see the photos of these "deposits."

Anyone else?

[deputydi]

Originally Posted by accordn2me

Good theory! I'd love to see the photos of these "deposits."

Anyone else?

So would I!

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by deputydi

So would I!

Me too!!!!

[I'mSun]

Originally Posted by Lavindar

Me too!!!!

Me three!!! Although I'm still curious why Dr. Lee said he saw barnacles all over Laci.

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by I'mSun

Me three!!! Although I'm still curious why Dr. Lee said he saw barnacles all over Laci.

1. Four 2. He's a proven liar.

[accordn2me]

This is official notice that I want y'all to answer my question about what y'all think those "deposits" are!

[deputydi]

Originally Posted by accordn2me

This is official notice that I want y'all to answer my question about what y'all think those "deposits" are!

Sure, I'll answer your question. I have no idea! It won't even be mentioned in Scott's appeal and I also have no idea why it has become the NG, SII's mantra.

Anyone else want to venture an opinion?

[Lavindar]

Originally Posted by deputydi

Sure, I'll answer your question. I have no idea! It won't even be mentioned in Scott's appeal and I also have no idea why it has become the NG, SII's mantra.

Anyone else want to venture an opinion?

ITA with your comments

[accordn2me]

Originally Posted by deputydi

Sure, I'll answer your question. I have no idea! It won't even be mentioned in Scott's appeal and I also have no idea why it has become the NG, SII's mantra.

Anyone else want to venture an opinion?

I'm thankful we're off that "twice-knotted twine" that was not twice-knotted at all.

[Wearing A Halo]

Originally Posted by accordn2me

Since the appeals thread is getting really long and taking all sorts of twists and turns....I'd like to bring this issue here and ask everyone:

What do you think the "deposits" most likely are?

1. barnacles

2. concrete

3. rocks from the shoreline

4. urine

5. other

I have to go with concrete because even though the ME said he didn't know the difference between freshwater barnacles...which don't exist... versus saltwater barnacles...I kinda think he knows a barnacle versus something else. So, in case it's not obvious, I believe the deposits are from one of the concrete anchors used to weight Laci's body. I'd like to hear the other theories...and if you choose "other" specify what if you will.

Mahalo!

#2--specifically calcium

[TopGunner]

Originally Posted by accordn2me

This is official notice that I want y'all to answer my question about what y'all think those "deposits" are!

Just stuff from the sea Acorn. K.............?

[accordn2me]

Originally Posted by Wearing A Halo

#2--specifically calcium

IIRC, you were the first one to propose this theory. Do you remember what led you to this conclusion?

Did that "concrete expert" MG put on the stand say anything that influenced you.

[accordn2me]

Originally Posted by TopGunner

Just stuff from the sea Acorn. K.............?

Stuff from the sea?