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Old 06-12-2007, 04:34 AM
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Life, death and last breath IRL

This is completly off any topic off CL...but I wanted to share what happend to me today.

This morning during the first out of three doggie walks...I came under this maple tree in the little mini park by my apartment. I could hear the birds up in the tree yelling. Knowing the call of the Jack-Daw, I just continued my walk thinking they are yelling at me for I have a dog under their tree. Doggie two...same thing. they were yelling at me so I thought....

Doggie three....same spot. This time no yelling as I go under same tree..as it is on the path to go around the corner. I see immediatly a little bird that I thought was already dead. WAhhhh in my heart as it shrunk inside me. Then, I notice Troja making her intrest, I tell her to sit, as she does what I asked....I look at the baby bird. He is about ready to go on own, almost full grown....as big as its parents. It is nearly midsummer day here in Sweden.

To my shock he makes a struggle to open his eyes and flutter a bit. He is dying. I hear now, the parents of bird, and the enemies of said family. Same maple, looking up, I see two different branches where two Jack_Daw families were perched. Screaming at eachother !!

It was outright bird murder. I was so mad. Then I had hurt in my chest as he lay in the sun and take hims last breathes. The odd thing is, that these Jack-Daws kill their own kind. Family against family. Same species.
Like us humans do.

Taking chances with being attacked from above, and Troja being idiot dog and not staying put, I moved him over out of the open ground. I kinda wished I had the guts, or heart or whatever a hunter has inside, to end his suffering.
The only thing I could bring myself to do is, to tear myself and my very interested Troja dog back towards home.

I now sit in tiny apartment, listening to them renovate a old building built in the 1920's, writing to you. Whial the baby bird dies. I know its nature with the wild life..blah blah blah...but is it natural in humans?

Thank you for listening.
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Old 06-12-2007, 11:05 PM
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Cool Hi Inlet

Hi ,
Ok well I have often thought about why humans are driven to do Evil , like how we can kill and cause harm to our own kind with out conscience…some of the things that seam plausible in my mind may be considered out of the ball park in others .
What if Violence and harm is a humans natural instinct? what if those of us who choose to live our lives with out causing harm to others are the strange one’s ?
I am no psychologist I don’t claim to have an understanding of the human psyche I like to look at things logically I work in an industry where mortality is ever prevalent I have since I was 17 been on oil rigs or worked in oil refineries people die get hurt or maimed a lot doing what we do to earn a living and you just sort of get used to it .. So if we go way back when humanity was new to the world then I think being bigger stronger and more aggressive would have been an advantage .I mean even right up until the industrial revolution being bigger stronger and more aggressive was still an advantage in the game of survival for humans in our world so I think that the brain developed ways and means to deal with that and quite probably violence would have been an everyday occurrence or at least the threat of violence .I believe everyone is capable of doing inherently “Evil” things and its just how we are taught to interact with the world as a child that stops the majority of us being that way .. so in answer I do believe that its “Natural” for humans to kill and harm each other .. I don’t believe its uncontrollable and with education and understanding the natural inclination’s can be trained out of the human psyche eventually. Except maybe politicians there a hopeless case they can order death and destruction on a scale most serial killers could only aspire too with total immunity.
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