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Old 06-09-2007, 12:41 PM
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Christopher Newsom's mother speaks out

"There is absolutely no proof of a hate crime," said John Gill, special counsel to Knox County District Atty. Randy Nichols. "It was a terrible crime, a horrendous crime, but race was not a motive...."

Christopher Newsom's parents do not accept that logic.

"If this wasn't a hate crime, then I don't know how you would define a hate crime," said Mary Newsom, Christopher's mother. "It may have started out as a carjacking, but what it developed into was blacks hating whites. To do the things they did, they would have to hate them to do that."

When overall cross-racial violent crimes are tabulated, including incidents not formally classified as racially motivated hate crimes, Justice Department statistics show that blacks attack whites far more often than whites attack blacks.

In 2005, there were more than 645,000 victims of cross-racial violent crimes between blacks and whites in the U.S.

In 90 percent of those crimes, black offenders attacked white victims.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ck=1&cset=true
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:16 PM
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"There is absolutely no proof of a hate crime," said John Gill, special counsel to Knox County District Atty. Randy Nichols. "It was a terrible crime, a horrendous crime, but race was not a motive...."

Christopher Newsom's parents do not accept that logic.

"If this wasn't a hate crime, then I don't know how you would define a hate crime," said Mary Newsom, Christopher's mother. "It may have started out as a carjacking, but what it developed into was blacks hating whites. To do the things they did, they would have to hate them to do that."

When overall cross-racial violent crimes are tabulated, including incidents not formally classified as racially motivated hate crimes, Justice Department statistics show that blacks attack whites far more often than whites attack blacks.

In 2005, there were more than 645,000 victims of cross-racial violent crimes between blacks and whites in the U.S.

In 90 percent of those crimes, black offenders attacked white victims.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ck=1&cset=true
Jessie Jackson is screaming to the rafters, "it ain't so, joe." I just wonder if Christian and Channon had been black, would the so call carjacking have turned as tortuous and deadly as it did? Somehow, I don't think so.
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Old 06-09-2007, 09:07 PM
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I don't want to be perceived as downplaying what occurred here because this was a horrific, gruesome crime committed by non-humans. However, these kinds of crimes happen everyday in inner cities but are intra-racial rather than inter-racial.

I honestly believe if these same inhuman thugs carjacked a young black couple the results probably would have been the same. Again this may turn out to be a "hate crime" but in order to be a hate crime, there are certain criteria that have to be met and the main one is that the person/s was/were attacked just because of who they are. Carjackings and murders of blacks against blacks are still way far more than black on white and most of them occur in inner cities. Just because a crime is committed by a black against white or white against black does not automatically create a hate crime. If it does turn out to be a hate crime hopefully even more charges will be added so these scum can face the rest of their lives locked up. Hopefully the Tenn DA will call for the death penalty.

What is a Hate Crime

Hate Crime: Crime of aggravated assault, arson, burglary, criminal homicide, motor vehicle theft, robbery, sex offenses, and/or crime involving bodily injury in which the victim was intentionally selected because of the victims' actual or perceived race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity, or disability.

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According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, in "Hate Crimes Reported in NIBRS, 1997-1999," racially motivated hate crimes most frequently target blacks. Six in 10 racially biased incidents targeted blacks, and 3 in 10 people targeted whites. Hispanics of all races were targeted in 6.7 percent of incidents and Asians in 3 percent. Younger offenders were responsible for most hate crimes and most of their victims were between 11 and 31.

http://www.usdoj.gov/crs/pubs/crs_pu...letin_1201.htm

Serious Violent Crime Stats by race of victim:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/race.htm

Criminal Victimization, 2005

Highlights include the following:

* For most crimes, aggregated rates for the period 2004-05 were unchanged from the previous two year period 2002-03, while minor declines were seen for some forms of robbery and simple assault without injury.
* The rate of firearm violence increased between 2004 and 2005, from 1.4 to 2.0 victimizations per 1,000 individuals age 12 or older.
* Males, blacks, and persons age 24 or younger continued to be victimized at higher rates than females, whites, and persons age 25 or older in 2005.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cv05.htm
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Jessie Jackson is screaming to the rafters, "it ain't so, joe." I just wonder if Christian and Channon had been black, would the so call carjacking have turned as tortuous and deadly as it did? Somehow, I don't think so.
I completely agree with you, Carole.
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Jessie Jackson is screaming to the rafters, "it ain't so, joe." I just wonder if Christian and Channon had been black, would the so call carjacking have turned as tortuous and deadly as it did? Somehow, I don't think so.
Really, you don't think so...that would be funny if it weren't so sad. Fact is, a sociopath is a sociopath. Maybe race was a factor, maybe it wasn't, but presupposing these amoral *******s would have shown mercy to Black victims is disingenous.

Again, A cursory look at World History from Sumer and Akkad to today makes it very clear that no sub categorization of the human race owns they title for “savage” in regard to what horrors people are capable of inflicting on others of the same so-called “race” or of different so-called “races”.

I posit, that in order to understand the nature of crime and the relation that the scientific fiction and social reality of race has in regard to it, is first to accept the fact that such sub categorizations are SOCIAL and not SCIENTIFIC.

After that predicate had been established, a good and honest discussion can occur.
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I completely agree with you, Carole.
I second that.

I think much of the motivation was because of the racial aspect, which does not mean that these perps would not be capable of attrocities against their own race. But the fact that race was a component can not be ignored in this crime.
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I second that.

I think much of the motivation was because of the racial aspect, which does not mean that these perps would not be capable of attrocities against their own race. But the fact that race was a component can not be ignored in this crime.
Don't you mean, "IF" race was an agitating factor in this crime, that it should not be ignored?

I'm just saying, IF race was a factor they should be charged and prosecuted accordingly, we don't know what was in their hearts or on their minds, aside from EVIL in general.

Again, these were sociopaths, they don't need a "racial" motive to commit crimes against anyone of any race.

Or, more to the point, is it fair or even accurate to assume that anytime a crime happens intra-race, that race is part of the motivation to commit the crime?

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