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06-08-2007, 05:22 PM
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FINALLY .... A Judge Who Is NOT Influenced By "Celebrity"
FINALLY .... A Judge who is not influenced by "Celebrity".
IMO Judge Michael Sauer did the right thing this morning, when he ordered Paris Hilton back to jail, to serve the remainder of her sentence.
Did Paris Hilton REALLY feel she was entitled to "special treatment" ?? What a silly question .... of COURSE she did !! Someone who has such total disregard for the law .... someone who seemed to feel she could ignore warnings given to her, and just do as she pleased.
I just read how she was led from the courtroom in handcuffs, weeping .... calling for her "Mom" .... "This is not right" !! WHAT is not right, Paris ?? That you are made to pay a consequence for breaking the law ?? Another thing I was reading yesterday, which literally made me shake my head in absolute wonderment ((I can't think of a better word)). Judge Sauer apparently received many angry letters from Paris Hilton fans, who were asking him .... "How can you DO such a thing. Paris Hilton is a role model for young girls ?" Are we KIDDING here ????
Anyway .... KUDOS to Judge Sauer !!!
JMO
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06-09-2007, 12:32 AM
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I do not normally post on emotive subjects such as the business with Ms Hilton, but here goes...
I dont like or dislike Ms Hilton. As a fellow human being I feel some empathy towards her case.
Ms Hilton appears to have a mental health issue that could be made worse under the standard rules regarding her jailing.
If this kind of action was perpetuated in my country, there would be serious issues for those people we hold in high regard to 'please explain' (ie judges); Then again, this case would not have got to the point of a jail term in the first place.
But I digress.
Putting aside the celebrity, the wealth, and everything that personifies Ms Hilton, I see a frightened young lady.
Under the standard rules of engagement, Ms Hilton should be allowed to be assessed by a qualified psychiatrist (in fact 2 - one appointed by the state and one appointed by her legal team) who can made a recommendation to the court. I believe the Judge erred in this case by not at least agreeing to allow Ms Hilton to be assessed. Not all mental-health issues are faked. By allowing Ms Hilton to be properly assessed by 2 qualified mental health professionals, one can get to the bottom of the issue regarding her mental health status.
Judges are human too. They must perform their duties to be at least in line with the current law of the land. They should not base their decisions on the actions of others on the perifery of the cases they hear. The Sheriff released Ms Hilton on the basis of medical advice, requested by the Sheriff. It is the Sheriff that should bear the brunt of the judges dismay.
By treating Ms Hilton, and not the Sheriff, in this way, is not helpful to the administration of justice.
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06-09-2007, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by louhaven
I do not normally post on emotive subjects such as the business with Ms Hilton, but here goes...
I dont like or dislike Ms Hilton. As a fellow human being I feel some empathy towards her case.
Ms Hilton appears to have a mental health issue that could be made worse under the standard rules regarding her jailing.
If this kind of action was perpetuated in my country, there would be serious issues for those people we hold in high regard to 'please explain' (ie judges); Then again, this case would not have got to the point of a jail term in the first place.
But I digress.
Putting aside the celebrity, the wealth, and everything that personifies Ms Hilton, I see a frightened young lady.
Under the standard rules of engagement, Ms Hilton should be allowed to be assessed by a qualified psychiatrist (in fact 2 - one appointed by the state and one appointed by her legal team) who can made a recommendation to the court. I believe the Judge erred in this case by not at least agreeing to allow Ms Hilton to be assessed. Not all mental-health issues are faked. By allowing Ms Hilton to be properly assessed by 2 qualified mental health professionals, one can get to the bottom of the issue regarding her mental health status.
Judges are human too. They must perform their duties to be at least in line with the current law of the land. They should not base their decisions on the actions of others on the perifery of the cases they hear. The Sheriff released Ms Hilton on the basis of medical advice, requested by the Sheriff. It is the Sheriff that should bear the brunt of the judges dismay.
By treating Ms Hilton, and not the Sheriff, in this way, is not helpful to the administration of justice.
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Interesting post, louhaven ....
What you seem to be doing, is placing the blame for Paris Hilton's problems, on everyone but Paris Hilton. I believe you may be correct, in the fact Ms. Hilton might have serious problems, but by the same token, what she did was break the law .... not once .... not twice, but three times. She was given a chance to rectify the first instance , by having the Judge place her on probation, and attend some drug/alcohol treatment program. She thumbed her nose at everything the Judge ordered. She violated her probation twice, and didn't feel she had to attend the treatment program ordered by the Judge, which finally provoked him to incarcerate her. I believe it was entirely possible for her to be driving her car, drunk .... and possibly kill someone.
I feel part of Ms. Hilton's problem is, that she is literally surrounded by "enablers". I wonder if she has ever been made to face consequences ??
I really believe it shocked Ms. Hilton when Judge Sauer decided to do just that.
JMO
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06-10-2007, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fairmaiden
FINALLY .... A Judge who is not influenced by "Celebrity".
IMO Judge Michael Sauer did the right thing this morning, when he ordered Paris Hilton back to jail, to serve the remainder of her sentence.
Did Paris Hilton REALLY feel she was entitled to "special treatment" ?? What a silly question .... of COURSE she did !! Someone who has such total disregard for the law .... someone who seemed to feel she could ignore warnings given to her, and just do as she pleased.
I just read how she was led from the courtroom in handcuffs, weeping .... calling for her "Mom" .... "This is not right" !! WHAT is not right, Paris ?? That you are made to pay a consequence for breaking the law ?? Another thing I was reading yesterday, which literally made me shake my head in absolute wonderment ((I can't think of a better word)). Judge Sauer apparently received many angry letters from Paris Hilton fans, who were asking him .... "How can you DO such a thing. Paris Hilton is a role model for young girls ?" Are we KIDDING here ????
Anyway .... KUDOS to Judge Sauer !!!
JMO
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Paris is a sick joke to my daughter, thank goodness! And ITA, finally a judge that judges based on the law and not how much money you have.
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06-10-2007, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by louhaven
I do not normally post on emotive subjects such as the business with Ms Hilton, but here goes...
I dont like or dislike Ms Hilton. As a fellow human being I feel some empathy towards her case.
Ms Hilton appears to have a mental health issue that could be made worse under the standard rules regarding her jailing.
If this kind of action was perpetuated in my country, there would be serious issues for those people we hold in high regard to 'please explain' (ie judges); Then again, this case would not have got to the point of a jail term in the first place.
But I digress.
Putting aside the celebrity, the wealth, and everything that personifies Ms Hilton, I see a frightened young lady.
Under the standard rules of engagement, Ms Hilton should be allowed to be assessed by a qualified psychiatrist (in fact 2 - one appointed by the state and one appointed by her legal team) who can made a recommendation to the court. I believe the Judge erred in this case by not at least agreeing to allow Ms Hilton to be assessed. Not all mental-health issues are faked. By allowing Ms Hilton to be properly assessed by 2 qualified mental health professionals, one can get to the bottom of the issue regarding her mental health status.
Judges are human too. They must perform their duties to be at least in line with the current law of the land. They should not base their decisions on the actions of others on the perifery of the cases they hear. The Sheriff released Ms Hilton on the basis of medical advice, requested by the Sheriff. It is the Sheriff that should bear the brunt of the judges dismay.
By treating Ms Hilton, and not the Sheriff, in this way, is not helpful to the administration of justice.
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Personally she is crazy to drive drunk! Apparantly Paris is healthy enough mentally and physically to do what she wants to do when she wants to do it, and feels she is above the law. If anything her illness is 1)faked, 2)the DT's,or 3)claustophobia from being in a cell like all the other convicted felons.
She doesn't give a whit about you or me, or our children, and the very real possibility her drunken driving will take one of our lives. If that should happen, her attorney's would offer the surviving family a token of her millions, and Paris would miss a penny of it. You and I however, would miss our loved ones for the rest of our lives. I'd rather her be in jail than on American roads. I don't believe she will learn a thing from her incarceration, and in a couple of weeks she'll continue her attempts to murder. Perhaps if she succeeds, some other honest judge will put her away for several years.
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06-10-2007, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CaroleNichols
Personally she is crazy to drive drunk! Apparantly Paris is healthy enough mentally and physically to do what she wants to do when she wants to do it, and feels she is above the law. If anything her illness is 1)faked, 2)the DT's,or 3)claustophobia from being in a cell like all the other convicted felons.
She doesn't give a whit about you or me, or our children, and the very real possibility her drunken driving will take one of our lives. If that should happen, her attorney's would offer the surviving family a token of her millions, and Paris would miss a penny of it. You and I however, would miss our loved ones for the rest of our lives. I'd rather her be in jail than on American roads. I don't believe she will learn a thing from her incarceration, and in a couple of weeks she'll continue her attempts to murder. Perhaps if she succeeds, some other honest judge will put her away for several years.
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 I couldn't agree more!!
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06-12-2007, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoey
 I couldn't agree more!! 
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I think that this judge has probably done her a big favour in the long run. imo
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