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Old 03-19-2007, 08:37 AM
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Jason Lamar Simpson - Where is the real Killer now?

I stumbled upon a BBC documentary, I think in 2000 or 2001, that showed much of William C Dear's evidence. The documentary suggested a few alternate suspects but it was clear to me, and just made logical sense, that Jason Simpson was the murderer. I thought, "wow" then got on with my life.

It was only a few weeks ago that I thought about the case again, maybe there was something was in the media about it, and I bought "OJ is Guilty but not of Murder". It just further solidified my view that Jason is the killer that got away with it.

So I did a bit of research on the web to see what was being done about it in the US. Has a trial been considered? While there is a scattering of references to Jason and his possibility of guilt I didn't feel there was enough debate about it. What I did find is a small reference to Jason on wikipedia under OJ murder case.

It says "Jason Simpson was then killed by an unknown assasian, who was never revealed, on December 28, 2006. In Malibu, CA, he was shot dead after riding down the street in his red BMW after leaving work. There are theories that O.J. himself killed Jason, the family of Ron Goldman commited the crime, or the family of Nicole Brown killed him. But there are no true theories proven yet."

Is it true that Jason Simpson is now dead? Why can I not find any articles on the web in the media to confirm this?

I think this still needs to be resolved even if he is now dead. Even though OJ Simpson was found not guilty, he was found guilty in the civil case and he is guilty in the minds of most people. I could not think of anything worse that to be accused of somthing I didn't do. Someone owes it to OJ to set the record straight.

The way the world works now I think the only was the truth will come out is if someone makes a movie of the book "OJ is guilty but not of murder" and it wins the best picture oscar. People don't seek out information and they can't digest it unless it's packaged into a 80 min feature film.
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The facts

1. As an adolescent, Jason performed poorly in school and demostrated many antisocial behaviours.

2. Considered a "problem child" at an early age. Documented in articles of interviews given by OJ.

3. Jason overdosed on drugs and alcohol at age 14 and was rushed to hospital.

4. Jason reportedly had difficulty communicating with his mother and at an early age moved in OJ and Nicole because Marguerite could not control him.

5. As a teenager Jason flew into a fit of rage and attacked a statue of his father with a baseball bat.

6. Jason stole his father's car and was turned in by Nicole.

7. Ronald Shipp stated Jason began being physically abused by his father at a young age.

8. Ronald Shipp described him as having pschological problems, along with abusing drugs and alcohol.

9. Jason was treated at the UCLA Neuro-Psychiatirc Institute for a mental condition, later being diagnosed as "Intermittent Rage Disorder" accompanied by seizures. He was prescribed Depakote, a drug frequently prescribed to individuals suffering from rage.

10. Jason dropped out or flunked out of USC.

11. According to Shipp, Jason had possibly stalked Nicole Simpson while she lived at Gretna Green.

12. According to Shipp, Jason and Nicole would go out dancing and partying together.

13. On more than one occasion Jason left or was fired from his job as a prep chef. Indications were he was unable to get along with people of authority.

14. Jason attempted suicide by stabbing himself with a pair of scissors.

15. Jason, in a fit of rage, assaulted his girlfriend Jackie where in he nearly breaks her back by throwing her into an empty bathtub.

16. Jason attacked his girlfriend Jackie with a chef's knife and cuts off her hair.

17. Jason attempted suicide by cutting his wrists with a shard of broken glass.

18. Jason attempted suicide a second time. This time by overdosing on Depakote. He was committed to the psychiatric ward at Saint John's hospital.

19. Jason had repeatedly been warned not to use drugs and alcohol while taking medication, because it could further complicate his existing neurological condition but continued to do so.

20. Jason was arrested for assaulting his former employer, Paul Goldberg, with a kitchen knife. At the time of the murders, Jason was still on probation for this earlier offense on Paul Goldberg.

21. Just prior to the murders, Jason felt he was "going to rage," and checked into Cedars Sinai Hospital. Previously, when he was about to rage, he claimed to hallucinate by hearing voices of people who weren't there.

22. Two months prior to the murders Jason, in a blind rage, assaulted his girlfriend, Jennifer Green, at his birthday party. Later that night, according to an article, he tried to strangle her.

23. Two months prior to the murders Jason was known to have stopped taking his Depakote because, as he was reported to have said, "It's f**king with my head."

24. On the night before the murders, Nicole had arranged to eat at Jackson's restaurant, where Jason was the chef, but she failed to show up the next night.

25. At 7pm on the night of the murders, Nicole and her family ate at Mezzaluna's restaurant instead of at Jackson's, where Jason was the chef.

26. According to Jennifer Green, and a waiter at Jackson's, Jason left the restaurant where he worked at around 9:45pm, approximately 45 mins to an hour prior to the murders.

27. Jason's civil deposition indicated he did not spend the evening with Jennifer Green as she indicated, but went directly home after he dropped Jennifer off at her apartment.

28. Jason had no alibi after 10pm, he claimed to watch TV until 3am.

29. Supposedly Jason had an "air-tight" alibi that he was cooking for 200 people at Jackson's restaurant. On that particular night there were less than 40 patrons at the restaurant the entire night. Jason left before it closed.

30. Experts established that the probable murder weapon was a chef's knife.

31. Jason had his own chef knives and kept them with him.

32. Jason had in his possession a set of chef knives when he left Jackson's restaurant at approximately 9:45pm on the night of the murders.

33. Jason was allegedly upset that Nicole and her party did not come to Jackson's as arranged on the night of June 12, 1994.

34. Jason's blood chemistry is supposed to have similar genetic characteristics as OJ's.

35. OJ and Jason have approximately the same size feet. Jason also had access to OJ's clothes closet and is known to have taken items of clothing from his dad at will.

36. James G. Cron, crime scene expert, has studied the investigative material and determined that Jason Simpson should have been considered a major suspect in the murders of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman.

37. England crime scene experts, Tery Merston and his partner, Peter Harpur, stated OJ is not the killer of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman but in all probability, was at the crime scene after the murders. They both felt Jason Simpson should have been considered a major suspect.

38. Dr. Harvey Davisson, Dr. William Flynn, Dr. William Tedford and Dr. Charles Keller reviewed Jason's records and felt that Jason Simpson is psychologically disturbed and in need of help.

39. Robert Shapiro, OJ's attorney, has indicated that Jason was his first suspect expect for his "air-tight" alibi. The air-tight alibi has now proven to be false.

40. Jason was never interviewed by any of the LA Police Law Enforcement Agencies nor the Prosecutor's Office. Nor was he asked to furnish an alibi for the evening of Sunday, June 12th, 1994 in conjuction with the killings. Nor, according to sources, were Jason's fingerprints examined in comparison to the unidentified fingerprints at the crime scene.

41. Jason's psychiatrist shredded all of Jaosn's medical records after the murders.

42. On the day after the murders, June 13, 1994, OJ hired a well-known criminal attorney to represent Jason. This was prior to OJ's arrest for the murders.

43. Jason breaks through the police line to reach his father at the conclusion of the slow-speed car chase.

44. Jason wouldn't give Jackie any straight answers about the murders.

45. Marcia Clark and the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office considered this to be a "rage killing by an amatuer."

46. Jason bolted from the funeral home, visibly upset, at the time of Nicole Simpson's funeral, not wanting to view Nicole's body.

47. Jason was arrested for hit and run during OJ's trial.
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34. Jason's blood chemistry is supposed to have similar genetic characteristics as OJ's.

35. OJ and Jason have approximately the same size feet. Jason also had access to OJ's clothes closet and is known to have taken items of clothing from his dad at will.

11. According to Shipp, Jason had possibly stalked Nicole Simpson while she lived at Gretna Green.

16. Jason attacked his girlfriend Jackie with a chef's knife and cuts off her hair.

21. Just prior to the murders, Jason felt he was "going to rage," and checked into Cedars Sinai Hospital. Previously, when he was about to rage, he claimed to hallucinate by hearing voices of people who weren't there.

22. Two months prior to the murders Jason, in a blind rage, assaulted his girlfriend, Jennifer Green, at his birthday party. Later that night, according to an article, he tried to strangle her.

40. Jason was never interviewed by any of the LA Police Law Enforcement Agencies nor the Prosecutor's Office. Nor was he asked to furnish an alibi for the evening of Sunday, June 12th, 1994 in conjuction with the killings. Nor, according to sources, were Jason's fingerprints examined in comparison to the unidentified fingerprints at the crime scene.

41. Jason's psychiatrist shredded all of Jaosn's medical records after the murders.

42. On the day after the murders, June 13, 1994, OJ hired a well-known criminal attorney to represent Jason. This was prior to OJ's arrest for the murders.

These facts substantiate the defense's claim to a rush to judgment.
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34. Jason's blood chemistry is supposed to have similar genetic characteristics as OJ's.

35. OJ and Jason have approximately the same size feet. Jason also had access to OJ's clothes closet and is known to have taken items of clothing from his dad at will.

11. According to Shipp, Jason had possibly stalked Nicole Simpson while she lived at Gretna Green.

16. Jason attacked his girlfriend Jackie with a chef's knife and cuts off her hair.

21. Just prior to the murders, Jason felt he was "going to rage," and checked into Cedars Sinai Hospital. Previously, when he was about to rage, he claimed to hallucinate by hearing voices of people who weren't there.

22. Two months prior to the murders Jason, in a blind rage, assaulted his girlfriend, Jennifer Green, at his birthday party. Later that night, according to an article, he tried to strangle her.

40. Jason was never interviewed by any of the LA Police Law Enforcement Agencies nor the Prosecutor's Office. Nor was he asked to furnish an alibi for the evening of Sunday, June 12th, 1994 in conjuction with the killings. Nor, according to sources, were Jason's fingerprints examined in comparison to the unidentified fingerprints at the crime scene.

41. Jason's psychiatrist shredded all of Jaosn's medical records after the murders.

42. On the day after the murders, June 13, 1994, OJ hired a well-known criminal attorney to represent Jason. This was prior to OJ's arrest for the murders.

These facts substantiate the defense's claim to a rush to judgment.
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about two weeks ago i read on the net a story about the a San Francisco le lab tach/manager had given false test results in court in 500 cases. The time frame i do not remember. But it goes to show that it does happen and in this case happened a lot. i did not save the article but will if i run across it again.

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about two weeks ago i read on the net a story about the a San Francisco le lab tach/manager had given false test results in court in 500 cases. The time frame i do not remember. But it goes to show that it does happen and in this case happened a lot. i did not save the article but will if i run across it again.

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That was just human error and/or mistake.
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about two weeks ago i read on the net a story about the a San Francisco le lab tach/manager had given false test results in court in 500 cases. The time frame i do not remember. But it goes to show that it does happen and in this case happened a lot. i did not save the article but will if i run across it again.

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You read a "net story" that you can no longer find? That's rich.

Did any of those "500 cases" involve turning one person's DNA into another's?
IIRC 3 labs did testing. Are you claiming that all 3 lied? Are you also forgetting that the defense is allowed to do their own testing?
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about two weeks ago i read on the net a story about the a San Francisco le lab tach/manager had given false test results in court in 500 cases. The time frame i do not remember. But it goes to show that it does happen and in this case happened a lot. i did not save the article but will if i run across it again.

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Martin,

The defense is under no obligation to prove or disprove anything, which is what a lot of people forget. The defense has the option of pointing out that the prosecution failed to meet its burden.
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Martin,

The defense is under no obligation to prove or disprove anything, which is what a lot of people forget. The defense has the option of pointing out that the prosecution failed to meet its burden.
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i agree

I read a post today that indicatred that if the defense did not agree with the prosecution on a issue, they, the defense could test the blood themselves to prove the prosecution was wrong.
All the defense had to do is show the jury why the prosecutions presentation
cannot be believed beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I think I'm going to start promoting the theory that the murders of Nicole and Ron can "be found in the drug world of OJ Simpson" since Hollywood producer Don Simpson's drug dealer claims that he sold drugs to OJ Simpson on the day of the murders.
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I think I'm going to start promoting the theory that the murders of Nicole and Ron can "be found in the drug world of OJ Simpson" since Hollywood producer Don Simpson's drug dealer claims that he sold drugs to OJ Simpson on the day of the murders.
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IF ron simpson is telling the truth about selling oj DRUGS on 6/12 ,then oj must have given the drugs to some one or tossed them in some way because when his blood was tested for drugs on 6/13 it only had TRACES OF MARIJUANA IN IT.
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i agree

I read a post today that indicatred that if the defense did not agree with the prosecution on a issue, they, the defense could test the blood themselves to prove the prosecution was wrong.
All the defense had to do is show the jury why the prosecutions presentation
cannot be believed beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Exactly! The prosecution witnesses claimed they did not even see a gate at Bundy, but we are to believe their testimony.
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IF ron simpson is telling the truth about selling oj DRUGS on 6/12 ,then oj must have given the drugs to some one or tossed them in some way because when his blood was tested for drugs on 6/13 it only had TRACES OF MARIJUANA IN IT.
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Kato found them when they went to McDonalds and he and the MF got high.
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IF ron simpson is telling the truth about selling oj DRUGS on 6/12 ,then oj must have given the drugs to some one or tossed them in some way because when his blood was tested for drugs on 6/13 it only had TRACES OF MARIJUANA IN IT.
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Hence my point. OJ makes the lame and unsupported argument that the key to the murders can be found in the drug world of Faye Resnick and claims that Nicole was spiraling out of control with drugs because of Faye's crowd and yet no drugs were in Nicole's system at her time of death.

So maybe the key is really in OJ's drug world. Maybe he was into a bad crowd that did and dealt drugs and pissed someone off and they murdered Nicole to get back at him. Maybe this and maybe that and maybe this ...

My point is that people need to quit floating dumb sh*t theories that have no evidenciary support and get with dealing with the real facts.
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Hence my point. OJ makes the lame and unsupported argument that the key to the murders can be found in the drug world of Faye Resnick and claims that Nicole was spiraling out of control with drugs because of Faye's crowd and yet no drugs were in Nicole's system at her time of death.

So maybe the key is really in OJ's drug world. Maybe he was into a bad crowd that did and dealt drugs and pissed someone off and they murdered Nicole to get back at him. Maybe this and maybe that and maybe this ...

My point is that people need to quit floating dumb sh*t theories that have no evidenciary support and get with dealing with the real facts.
The real facts are that there was nothing found in Simpson's system that would indicate murder was a product of what was found and that Nicole's friends had been in rehab and had problems with narcotics. Is there any evidence that Simpson went to rehab or any of his friends?
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I read a post today that indicatred that if the defense did not agree with the prosecution on a issue, they, the defense could test the blood themselves to prove the prosecution was wrong.
That was my post. I thought you have me on ignore?
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Hence my point. OJ makes the lame and unsupported argument that the key to the murders can be found in the drug world of Faye Resnick and claims that Nicole was spiraling out of control with drugs because of Faye's crowd and yet no drugs were in Nicole's system at her time of death.

So maybe the key is really in OJ's drug world. Maybe he was into a bad crowd that did and dealt drugs and pissed someone off and they murdered Nicole to get back at him. Maybe this and maybe that and maybe this ...

My point is that people need to quit floating dumb sh*t theories that have no evidenciary support and get with dealing with the real facts.

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so what do we do with DON SIMPSONS CLAIM of selling oj drugs on 6/12.

I think the claim of sometime drug use by nicole came from her friends namely Cora F. in her testimony.

Faye also said that she had seen oj do cocain. According to nicole faye was freebasing at her house and was causing people to come see her that made Nicole uneasy. This was in her letter to Cora.

If we take your suggestion that oj pissed some drug people off and they killed Nicole and ron, then oj was innocent of the crime of murder he was charged with. Which also means the jury got it right when they voted NOT GUILTY.
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IF ron simpson is telling the truth about selling oj DRUGS on 6/12 ,then oj must have given the drugs to some one or tossed them in some way because when his blood was tested for drugs on 6/13 it only had TRACES OF MARIJUANA IN IT.
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Now, we are reduced to the theory that a drug dealer gets mad at someone for buying from them.
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some poster were already there -- only in their theory, Nicole was killed because Faye owed money.
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some poster were already there -- only in their theory, Nicole was killed because Faye owed money.
That would make more sense that someone (not saying who) owed money, which was the cause of Niclole's death, rather than someone buying drugs.
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Traces of Marijuana were found in oj's blood on 6/13. This means that if he had smoked it on 6/12 the test would not have read Traces. Since it read traces it indicates that he could have smoked it any time in the past two weeks or longer.

However i do understand that you seem to see marijuana and hard drugs (cocain.heron) as the same and obviously believe that oj smoked a joint on 6/12 which sent him out of control and he went and murdered his ex.

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That would make more sense that someone (not saying who) owed money, which was the cause of Niclole's death, rather than someone buying drugs.
I always thought that if there was any validity to the drug theory, one or both person with drugs in their system (Faye/orenthal) would be the one dead --
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That would make more sense that someone (not saying who) owed money, which was the cause of Niclole's death, rather than someone buying drugs.
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what makes sense to me is that Faye was living at nicoles for about two weeks freebasing daily and had people comming to see her at Nicoles that nicole said she did not know and did not like. AND

A few days before nicole was killed Faye ran to the rehab.
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I always thought that if there was any validity to the drug theory, one or both person with drugs in their system (Faye/orenthal) would be the one dead --
But there is the reported possibility that two other people were buying drugs and selling them and had become over their heads in debt. Everyone that deals drugs does not take them.
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Can't believe you both missed the fact that I was totally making fun of the whole drug theory.

Holy smokes, it's obvious that in your absolute haste to defend the jerk you jump on the defensive bandwagon right away without bothering to stop and notice the sarcasm.
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Traces of Marijuana were found in oj's blood on 6/13. This means that if he had smoked it on 6/12 the test would not have read Traces. Since it read traces it indicates that he could have smoked it any time in the past two weeks or longer.

However i do understand that you seem to see marijuana and hard drugs (cocain.heron) as the same and obviously believe that oj smoked a joint on 6/12 which sent him out of control and he went and murdered his ex.

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the fact of the matter is, orenthal 'could' have smoke that joint the day of. . . .

I understand the difference between the drugs. I also understand that marijuana is considered a drug and is illegal.
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I always thought that if there was any validity to the drug theory, one or both person with drugs in their system (Faye/orenthal) would be the one dead --
I think the killer would have murder someon close to the person who owed money not the person who spent money.
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Can't believe you both missed the fact that I was totally making fun of the whole drug theory.

Holy smokes, it's obvious that in your absolute haste to defend the jerk you jump on the defensive bandwagon right away without bothering to stop and notice the sarcasm.
I appreciated your sarcasm but you obviously did not appreciate mine.
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Ditto that for me.
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Ditto that for me.
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Right ... nice cover, but it's pretty obvious you were all over debunking my "outrageous" theory.

E for effort though.
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Right ... nice cover, but it's pretty obvious you were all over debunking my "outrageous" theory.

E for effort though.
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Your theories were debumked. Who is running for cover is another issue.

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Your theories were debumked. Who is running for cover is another issue.

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Hence my point. OJ makes the lame and unsupported argument that the key to the murders can be found in the drug world of Faye Resnick and claims that Nicole was spiraling out of control with drugs because of Faye's crowd and yet no drugs were in Nicole's system at her time of death.

So maybe the key is really in OJ's drug world. Maybe he was into a bad crowd that did and dealt drugs and pissed someone off and they murdered Nicole to get back at him. Maybe this and maybe that and maybe this ...

My point is that people need to quit floating dumb sh*t theories that have no evidenciary support and get with dealing with the real facts.
What a great post Jayme, thanks! And, welcome to the Board. I hope that you will stay with us, but you might not because there are people who seem to tire of the bullsh*t that goes on here on a daily basis and end up leaving because of the "people that float dumb sh*t theories that have no evidenciary support!" And then there are the rest of us who have been here a long, long time! LOL!

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Your theories were debumked. Who is running for cover is another issue.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you meant debunked.

That said, obviously you took my sarcasm seriously enough to make the effort to debunk my theories which in turn gives away the fact that you had no idea that I was kidding.

Anyhoo, how exactly do you think it was debunked? Thus far I haven't seen you post anything that proves or disproves, I've only seen you post opinions.
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[quote=Jayme K;8833307]I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you meant debunked.

That said, obviously you took my sarcasm seriously enough to make the effort to debunk my theories which in turn gives away the fact that you had no idea that I was kidding.

Anyhoo, how exactly do you think it was debunked? Thus far I haven't seen you post anything that proves or disproves, I've only seen you post opinions.[/QUOTE

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I hope the typo did not upset you too much.

You never stated what you meant by drugs that oj was sold by D .S. on 6/12. But if it was not marijuana i can tell you he did not take any on 6/12 at least his blood test did not show it.

If drug dealers killed Nicole and Ron to ger back at OJ. Then oj was not guilty as sin, of murder.

That said, i will say
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Right ... nice cover, but it's pretty obvious you were all over debunking my "outrageous" theory.

E for effort though.
I think that we all use the word "obvious" much too often, as what is obvious to some remains a muddy river to others.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you meant debunked.

That said, obviously you took my sarcasm seriously enough to make the effort to debunk my theories which in turn gives away the fact that you had no idea that I was kidding.

Anyhoo, how exactly do you think it was debunked? Thus far I haven't seen you post anything that proves or disproves, I've only seen you post opinions.[/QUOTE

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I hope the typo did not upset you too much.

You never stated what you meant by drugs that oj was sold by D .S. on 6/12. But if it was not marijuana i can tell you he did not take any on 6/12 at least his blood test did not show it.

If drug dealers killed Nicole and Ron to ger back at OJ. Then oj was not guilty as sin, of murder.

That said, i will say
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Let's clear this one up okay? My entire point is that I don't believe the majority of rubbish that's been flying out in theories around here. Why? Because there's nothing that supports them.

Don Simpson's drug dealer claims to have sold drugs to OJ on the night of the murders. So what? We don't know if he did or didn't, though I'm possibly leaning toward didn't. Faye Resnick was in rehab for an apparent relapse in her drug addiction. So what? People get clean and fall off the wagon all of the time, it doesn't mean that they're part of a deep sinister drug world that got two people murdered. And the list goes on of stupid things that no one has any factual support for as far as how a particular theory fits in with the murder.

P.S. Typos don't bother me, stupid people and theories do though.
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Let's clear this one up okay? My entire point is that I don't believe the majority of rubbish that's been flying out in theories around here. Why? Because there's nothing that supports them.

Don Simpson's drug dealer claims to have sold drugs to OJ on the night of the murders. So what? We don't know if he did or didn't, though I'm possibly leaning toward didn't. Faye Resnick was in rehab for an apparent relapse in her drug addiction. So what? People get clean and fall off the wagon all of the time, it doesn't mean that they're part of a deep sinister drug world that got two people murdered. And the list goes on of stupid things that no one has any factual support for as far as how a particular theory fits in with the murder.

P.S. Typos don't bother me, stupid people and theories do though.
The search for intelligence begins with realizing how stupid one is. The theories on this board stem from the prosecution's complete failure to prove the theory of its case by CREDIBLE EVIDENCE. Therefore, people will speculate about what may or may not have happened. I for one do not believe it polite or appropriate to call other poster's stupid. However, this is just my personal opinion, and it seems that I may be wrong, because apparently some do so without fear of reprisal.
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The search for intelligence begins with realizing how stupid one is. The theories on this board stem from the prosecution's complete failure to prove the theory of its case by CREDIBLE EVIDENCE. Therefore, people will speculate about what may or may not have happened. I for one do not believe it polite or appropriate to call other poster's stupid. However, this is just my personal opinion, and it seems that I may be wrong, because apparently some do so without fear of reprisal.
I find it interesting that you assume I was referring to martin; do you think he's stupid? Is that why you would seem to assume that?

I was making a statement in general that I will continue to make. Stupid people and stupid theories annoy me.
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I find it interesting that you assume I was referring to martin; do you think he's stupid? Is that why you would seem to assume that?

I was making a statement in general that I will continue to make. Stupid people and stupid theories annoy me.
Your assumption is wrong, as you will see that I never mentioned anyone's name in my post. I was talking about how freely some insulting words are cast in regard to theories that others do not agree with or feel that they are viable. I think that you attempt to cause a friction between Martin and me will fall on death ears, at least to the person with whom I have formed a cordial relationship. I think that you should not read into my post something that I did not say. I respect everyone's views and only wish that some could learn to disagree without becoming rude, obnoxious, and uncivil.
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