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Trauma-Based Mind Control - was Karla programmed?
Karla Homolka's story, as detailed in Stephen Williams' two books, bears a startling resemblance to that of Kathleen Sullivan, who as a child was put into a secret military program that turned her into a mind-controlled assassin and sex slave. Stephen Williams apparently knew nothing about trauma-based mind control when he wrote INVISIBLE DARKNESS and KARLA -- so he concludes Karla was "pure evil" despite the fact he documents her history of drugging and BDSM-style slavery. These are part and parcel of the mind control trade -- and these things are being done to other children as we speak.
Kathleen Sullivan's story suggests almost anyone can be turned into a psychopath given the right drugs and "training" -- which Karla got.
http://www.mkzine.com/Essays/Int-Kat...0Sullivan.html
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03-06-2007, 09:34 AM
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Programmed Multiples: Karla and Paul
The scary thing is, the military have been experimenting with creating Programmed Multiples (people with artificially induced MPD) for decades.
These experiments are not rare. Everyone has heard of Dr. Ewen Cameron and his CIA-funded program at Montreal's Allan Memorial (1953-1964) and how he reduced his patients to vegetables? That's not all he did. Cameron used LSD, sensory isolation, ECT, hypnosis etc. on "gifted children" whose parents thought they were sending their kids to a special program to enhance their abilities and prepare them for future careers. This side of Cameron's work was carefully hushed up -- but his victims still walk the streets. Many have been lifelong mental patients. And most of them have partial amnesia for what happened to them in these secret, government-funded experiments in mnd control
Behind this secret program was a classified military plan to conduct psychological warfare using mind-controlled operatives whose personalities had, literally, been fragmented into different parts that were unaware of one another. So on the surface, the mind-controlled individual might appear normal. He or she might have an ordinary job at, say, a veterinary clinic or an accounts firm. That core personality, that functions normally, is the Alpha personality. But another, hidden part of them -- the Beta -- might have sexual programming -- to prostitute themselves on demand. Another part -- let's call her Delta -- might be a sociopathic killer. The Alpha would have no conscious knowledge of what the Beta and Delta are up to. So the Alpha can live in a Hallmark card world by day, committing horrific crimes by night, and not remember any details until later when she is interrogated and the unconscious parts of her start surfacing. The Alpha part might tell her friends she is married to the "most caring guy in the world" because she really believes it, or is only dimly aware that she is living as the mind-controlled slave of a man who may or may not be aware he is committing vicious rapes around the neighbourhood by night--
Does this sound a lot like Karla and Paul?
Details of Karla's life -- like her sudden out-of-the-blue "sex vacation" in Kansas with her first boyfriend in 1987 -- or the way she just "bumped into" Bernardo at a Howard Johnsons -- or the couple's vacation in Disney Word (notorious as a mind control programming site) -- all suggest Karla and Paul were special kids in a special program that went a little too far.
The frantic effort to cover up before, during and after the trial, and the hasty plea bargain, also suggest that there was more to the Bernardo-Homolka story than meets the eye.
Read Stephen Williams' two books -- then read some of the information that is available on line about Trauma Based Mind Control -- and see how quickly the unanswered questions about this whole, deeply disturbing saga suddenly start to get answered.
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08-20-2008, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lunamoth1942
The scary thing is, the military have been experimenting with creating Programmed Multiples (people with artificially induced MPD) for decades.
These experiments are not rare. Everyone has heard of Dr. Ewen Cameron and his CIA-funded program at Montreal's Allan Memorial (1953-1964) and how he reduced his patients to vegetables? That's not all he did. Cameron used LSD, sensory isolation, ECT, hypnosis etc. on "gifted children" whose parents thought they were sending their kids to a special program to enhance their abilities and prepare them for future careers. This side of Cameron's work was carefully hushed up -- but his victims still walk the streets. Many have been lifelong mental patients. And most of them have partial amnesia for what happened to them in these secret, government-funded experiments in mnd control
Behind this secret program was a classified military plan to conduct psychological warfare using mind-controlled operatives whose personalities had, literally, been fragmented into different parts that were unaware of one another. So on the surface, the mind-controlled individual might appear normal. He or she might have an ordinary job at, say, a veterinary clinic or an accounts firm. That core personality, that functions normally, is the Alpha personality. But another, hidden part of them -- the Beta -- might have sexual programming -- to prostitute themselves on demand. Another part -- let's call her Delta -- might be a sociopathic killer. The Alpha would have no conscious knowledge of what the Beta and Delta are up to. So the Alpha can live in a Hallmark card world by day, committing horrific crimes by night, and not remember any details until later when she is interrogated and the unconscious parts of her start surfacing. The Alpha part might tell her friends she is married to the "most caring guy in the world" because she really believes it, or is only dimly aware that she is living as the mind-controlled slave of a man who may or may not be aware he is committing vicious rapes around the neighbourhood by night--
Does this sound a lot like Karla and Paul?
Details of Karla's life -- like her sudden out-of-the-blue "sex vacation" in Kansas with her first boyfriend in 1987 -- or the way she just "bumped into" Bernardo at a Howard Johnsons -- or the couple's vacation in Disney Word (notorious as a mind control programming site) -- all suggest Karla and Paul were special kids in a special program that went a little too far.
The frantic effort to cover up before, during and after the trial, and the hasty plea bargain, also suggest that there was more to the Bernardo-Homolka story than meets the eye.
Read Stephen Williams' two books -- then read some of the information that is available on line about Trauma Based Mind Control -- and see how quickly the unanswered questions about this whole, deeply disturbing saga suddenly start to get answered.
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In totally have the dry heaves, after reading the story of the "seven year sex slave" story, and yours, because the comparisons almost make it seem like the same story. Cameron Hooker was the freaking puke that kidnapped a 20 year old name Carol, and his then screwed-in-the-head wife, went along with whatever he wanted to do to Carol, for SEVEN freaking years. He made confining coffin-like boxes for Carol to live in, for three years, and "head boxes" that barely let her breath. His wife FINALLY decided to go to the authorities, and had Carol go with her to freedom. Carol was TOTALLY brainwashed by Hooker, and even went so far as to say she loved the *******!!!!!! Hooker is now behind bars, serving a 100 year or so sentence. Carol has finally came to her senses, and now realizes how victimized she really was. Hooker's trial lawyer was a puke himself. I just can't believe, that with all of the damning evidence in front of him, even though he's the one defending the accused, that he tried to beg the jury to believe that Hooker was "innocent." Hooker's ex-wife gave accounts of him killig a few girls before he kidnapped Carol. To me, he deserves a date with "Ole Sparky."
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08-20-2008, 12:23 PM
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In totally have the dry heaves, after reading the story of the "seven year sex slave" story, and yours, because the comparisons almost make it seem like the same story. Cameron Hooker was the freaking puke that kidnapped a 20 year old name Carol, and his then screwed-in-the-head wife, went along with whatever he wanted to do to Carol, for SEVEN freaking years. He made confining coffin-like boxes for Carol to live in, for three years, and "head boxes" that barely let her breath. His wife FINALLY decided to go to the authorities, and had Carol go with her to freedom. Carol was TOTALLY brainwashed by Hooker, and even went so far as to say she loved the *******!!!!!! Hooker is now behind bars, serving a 100 year or so sentence. Carol has finally came to her senses, and now realizes how victimized she really was. Hooker's trial lawyer was a puke himself. I just can't believe, that with all of the damning evidence in front of him, even though he's the one defending the accused, that he tried to beg the jury to believe that Hooker was "innocent." Hooker's ex-wife gave accounts of him killig a few girls before he kidnapped Carol. To me, he deserves a date with "Ole Sparky." 
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ITA agree SP Very well said. I also think Karla was as guilty as Paul. IMO
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08-20-2008, 01:08 PM
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I personally don't think she was brainwashed. I think she is just as evil, if not more so, than Paul. I've felt that since I started reading about that case.
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08-20-2008, 01:13 PM
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I personally don't think she was brainwashed. I think she is just as evil, if not more so, than Paul. I've felt that since I started reading about that case.
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What she said.
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08-20-2008, 01:19 PM
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They were both sick individuals---and no Karla wasnt brain washed--I think when she met Paul made them both more twisted. He was a rapist and thought he was invisiable and she thought she was too--I still think she was the one that gave him the taste of killing (her sister Tammy) and they both loved it. You know there are sick people out there that love seeing snuff movies---and they were one of them!!! As I said they are both sick people!!!
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08-20-2008, 01:48 PM
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They were both sick individuals---and no Karla wasnt brain washed--I think when she met Paul made them both more twisted. He was a rapist and thought he was invisiable and she thought she was too--I still think she was the one that gave him the taste of killing (her sister Tammy) and they both loved it. You know there are sick people out there that love seeing snuff movies---and they were one of them!!! As I said they are both sick people!!!
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I agree!
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09-03-2008, 02:53 AM
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I personally don't think she was brainwashed. I think she is just as evil, if not more so, than Paul. I've felt that since I started reading about that case.
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As I said on another message board, I find him more evil than Paul because she was the type of person that would do ANYTHING to be accepted by her lover. There were no boundaries. (Well, except someone hitting her). There were no signs in her childhood that manifested as a prelude to her actions so she is less predictable therefore more scary IMO.
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09-03-2008, 11:01 AM
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Im not sure what i think about her being brainwashed to be honest, i think she was to a certain extent but after a while i think she enjoyed it just as much as he did if that makes sense
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09-03-2008, 11:17 AM
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They were both sick individuals---and no Karla wasnt brain washed--I think when she met Paul made them both more twisted. He was a rapist and thought he was invisiable and she thought she was too--I still think she was the one that gave him the taste of killing (her sister Tammy) and they both loved it. You know there are sick people out there that love seeing snuff movies---and they were one of them!!! As I said they are both sick people!!!
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SM, I totally agree. I think they are both very evil and disgusting people who would have continued their terror on young girls had they not been stopped. I also think them giving her a deal to testify against Paul was wrong. I believe they could have prosecuted both without her help..I fear for anyone around her because her evil didn't go away when she was removed from Paul. That is my opinion and a very strong one. She managed to fool some but most see her for the pure evil that she is...
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09-04-2008, 12:57 AM
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I find it odd that Karla's plea deal wasn't thrown out the window after the infamous tapes were released. What a slap in the face to justice and to the families of the victums that that murderous troll has the same rights to pick up and move from country to country as a law abiding citizen such as myself.
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09-12-2008, 10:34 AM
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I find it odd that Karla's plea deal wasn't thrown out the window after the infamous tapes were released. What a slap in the face to justice and to the families of the victums that that murderous troll has the same rights to pick up and move from country to country as a law abiding citizen such as myself.
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That really shocks me too , how easily she has it now, moving wherever she likes and like you say having the same rights as you a law abiding citizen. I heard that she had applied to change her name again but that had been refused.
Does anyone know if she still has contact with her family ??
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09-14-2008, 01:45 AM
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I had read on another message board that she does still have contact with the family and that they blame Paul for what happened to Tammy.
I understand that is their kid and all but it would be EXTREMELY difficult for me to forgive Karla for helping to murder and rape her own sister.
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