Karla is a MOM

[goatgirl]

Word is that Karla has re-married & had a baby boy!

it hasnt been confirmed but it was on the front page of our paper today & looks like it very well may be true....

I will keep you all posted.....

[busythimble]

Homolka may have procreated, but she is NO mom. She is still a psychopathic monster who cares for no one but herself. My heart goes out to this child, who will grow up with the awful stigma of being the child of that cold, heartless animal. Homolka should still be in prison, where she belongs, instead of being out pretending to be a normal human being.

[One2Snoop]

Rumours of Homolka baby appear unfounded
Tom Blackwell, National Post
Published: Thursday, February 08, 2007

Lawyers and others close to Karla Homolka said yesterday they knew nothing about reports the released sex killer had recently given birth.

Tim Danson, who represents the families of two of Ms. Homolka's victims, said he understood the woman's father, Karel Homolka, had publicly suggested that Ms. Homolka had had a baby, though the lawyer said he was skeptical about the report.


http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...9-74775b7a9f7d

[Canadian Bum]

I am getting a bad feeling here. Just got a call, this Karla story may very well be true.

[Canadian Bum]

Karla has a passport, she can leave at any time. I dont think the States would allow her in, but i could be wrong. She is a "worry" regardless of her location, IMO.

[goatgirl]

The news still hasn't been confirmed, but talk radio station said they have confirmed the story!

I'm sure more news will come out in the days ahead.....

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...58711-sun.html

[goatgirl]

Originally Posted by Canadian Bum

Karla has a passport, she can leave at any time. I dont think the States would allow her in, but i could be wrong. She is a "worry" regardless of her location, IMO.

hey Canadian Bum

I thought you couldn't enter the U.S if you have a Criminal record

see ya

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by Merrick

That would not be a good situation for the baby. OMG, all of North America knows about this horrid woman, what man in his right mind would want to have anything to do with her. Oh no, I hope she hasn't found herself another Paul Bernardo. She's not allowed to leave Canada, right?

JMHO.

I agree. "What man in his right mind would want to have anything to do with her?" Someone who is just like her, that's who. Birds of A Feather do Flock Together!

More importantly, what about this guy's Mother? I am sure that she knows that her Son is a few french fries short of a Happy Meal, but I would still be absolutely horrified and upset with my Son. I am sorry, but I would NOT, NEVER accept her as my DIL and I would NOT, NEVER accept the baby as my grandchild. If it would cost me my relationship with my Son, that's the way it would be. I am sorry, but that is the way that I feel!

That's also why I will never understand how Karla's Mom and Sister support her even though she helped in the rape and murder of her baby sister, Tammy! Not to mention the other two innocent girls, Leslie and Kristen!

JMO and MOO!!

For Leslie!
For Kristen!
For Tammy!

[Canadian Bum]

Originally Posted by goatgirl

The news still hasn't been confirmed, but talk radio station said they have confirmed the story!

I'm sure more news will come out in the days ahead.....

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...58711-sun.html

Morning GG, i havent stopped shakin my head, i feel like a bobble head doll.

[Canadian Bum]

Originally Posted by goatgirl

hey Canadian Bum

I thought you couldn't enter the U.S if you have a Criminal record

see ya

Some people apply for pardons, Karla would not qualify.
I think we are stuck with her.

[Canadian Bum]

Originally Posted by Freshwater

That Karla has had a child begs an important and controversial subject. Should women and men who have been convicted of these types of henious crimes be sterilized?

IMO YES. Karla sucked the life out of all who touched her. Now we are going to trust her with another life? No way !

[One2Snoop]

Well I'll be, the story is true after all. Disgusting -

[A_seeker]

Originally Posted by Freshwater

That Karla has had a child begs an important and controversial subject. Should women and men who have been convicted of these types of henious crimes be sterilized?

IMHO, in a very extreme case (such as this one) steriliztion would be a good idea. No need to pass those horrifically cruel genes along.

I must say, I am saddened that she's had a baby...but IF she was going to have one, I guess it's better that it be a boy. So far, her inclination has been towards murdering girls....
maybe this child won't be tortured.
Of course, he may be taught to hurt girls. Very sad....

[goatgirl]

Originally Posted by Canadian Bum

Morning GG, i havent stopped shakin my head, i feel like a bobble head doll.

You and me both!

So I read in the paper today, they have confirmed she had a baby. She is not yet married but is flying away to the Antilles islands to get married & they aren't sure if she will ever return ( so I'm guessing she can now leave Canada)

I just can't wrap my head around why any man would want to have a child with her, I am sorry that's just how I feel. I know she did her time, but she still did the crime!

all I can say is Krama....krama ....krama......

Source:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...68442-sun.html

[goatgirl]

Originally Posted by Freshwater

That Karla has had a child begs an important and controversial subject. Should women and men who have been convicted of these types of henious crimes be sterilized?

umm that's a deep question. I think for me...it would really depend on the case.

[One2Snoop]

Originally Posted by Freshwater

That Karla has had a child begs an important and controversial subject. Should women and men who have been convicted of these types of henious crimes be sterilized?

It's a loaded question IMO - was it really proven she was under the influence of her husband or that she acted as an accomplice?
In answer to your question - I don't think she should've been allowed to have children - ever. JMO.

Just another twist on your question FH20 - Which brings us to another level of the justice system - should this be determined by jury or should sex offenders or anyone convicted in a sex crime be automatically sentenced to sterilization?

[goatgirl]

Originally Posted by One2Snoop

It's a loaded question IMO - was it really proven she was under the influence of her husband or that she acted as an accomplice?
In answer to your question - I don't think she should've been allowed to have children - ever. JMO.

Just another twist on your question FH20 - Which brings us to another level of the justice system - should this be determined by jury or should sex offenders or anyone convicted in a sex crime be automatically sentenced to sterilization?

He!! yeah

I am all for child sex offenders being automatically sentenced to sterilization

[diamond d]

Great the gene pool continues...

[Canadian Bum]

Originally Posted by Merrick

ITA. She hasn't paid her debt to society or paid for the crimes she so willingly participated in because of a plea bargain. This poor child doesn't have a pray at normalcy. My concern is that the father may be just as twisted and sexually perverted as Karla. I hope the Canadian government has a vehicle in place to remove this child and place her in a safe and loving environment.

JMHO.

This poor baby must now live in Karlas shadow, what a nightmare it will be. As to the father, IMO he's got a bolt loose somewhere. They can be and do whatever they want to each other, but why did she have to have a baby. Who knows what the goverment will do, it's not like they havent let us down concerning Karla before.

[Canadian Bum]

Hear Hear!!

[AmyW]

I feel terrible for that poor baby, having that psychopathic waste of space as a mother. Ugh....

[Chocoholic]

Originally Posted by Merrick

ITA. She hasn't paid her debt to society or paid for the crimes she so willingly participated in because of a plea bargain. This poor child doesn't have a pray at normalcy. My concern is that the father may be just as twisted and sexually perverted as Karla. I hope the Canadian government has a vehicle in place to remove this child and place her in a safe and loving environment.

JMHO.

I'd like to know if she is still under probation and if so, what the terms are.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by goatgirl

You and me both!
I just can't wrap my head around why any man would want to have a child with her, I am sorry that's just how I feel. I know she did her time, but she still did the crime!
Source:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...68442-sun.html

I'm having trouble myself understanding how any man would want anything to do with her, let alone have a child with her. Serial killer "groupies" are usually women, but I suppose it's possible for a female serial killer to have male grouples....

[2L8 4A D8]

IIRC, in one of her interviews she said that all she wants is to eventually have a baby. I guess her biological clock was ticking like crazy! Isn't she fast inching towards 40? She probably grabbed the first guy off of the street, had sex with him, wasn't talking any birth control and of course, became pregnant!

I really feel for the baby, but maybe it's good that she had a boy because boy's tend to be more critical of their Mothers than girl's are. However, he is only going to be told the story (if he's ever told anything) by Karla and her Family and you don't think that they are going to paint a bad picture of her do you? Of course not! They are going to place all of the blame of what she did and what she participated in on 'ol Paul!

JMO and MOO!!

[busythimble]

Originally Posted by Canadian Bum

Karla has a passport, she can leave at any time. I dont think the States would allow her in, but i could be wrong. She is a "worry" regardless of her location, IMO.

I agree, the States likely wouldn't let her in with her criminal record. Lets hope she goes over to Germany and lives where people like Michael Jackson are welcome!! That piece of filth has been thumbing her nose at the Canadian legal system for years now, and it's time she got the heck out of our country for good.

[hamiltonmom_101]

From what i read the cas is not going to interfer with the family and i read that in the toronto sun.As far as i am concern she does not deserve to have children at all. And as for those tapes they could of allowed into the courts but the lawyers were to concern of not getting bernardo. They were more worried about that than trying to nail Karla for what she really deserved she got off quite lucky.
And no they will not let bernardo speak about the case they have barred him from talking about it.

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by Merrick

First, I want to say I love your avatar! I can understand about her wanting a baby, but I question her motives. There is a psychological syndrome that for the life of me I can't remember but it has to do with having a baby to replace a life you've taken. IIRC, D. Downs was diagnosed with it. It's a flaw in one's personality where you feel one life is easily replaced by another's. Someone help me out here, it's not like me to forget what it's called and my search engineers are out of gas,

Anyhow, I just can't imagine what that child is going to go through in his life. Can you just imagine family get togethers at the Komolka house? Especially Christmas! All the family is sitting around the table after opening gifts and having a wonderful dinner, reminiscing about old times and what do they say "Oh, sonny, I remember that Christmas your mother drugged, raped and murdered your aunt, God rest her soul. Oh, but the tree was beautiful that year!". GMAB. Eventually this kid is going to be able to read and the internet isn't going anywhere. He's going to know exactly what type of monster his mother is. JMHO.

Thanks! I like your Avatar too and your Signature. I also like the things that you are doing around the Boards and I love reading your posts. Thank you for posting to me!

I can't think of that term either, but I do know what you are trying to say though. It's going to be hard on him. Especially after he finds out about his Mother. And then if that isn't bad enough, he finds out that his Grandmother and Aunt have supposedly supported his Mother in all her despicable madness and believed in her and thought nothing of her participating in the rape and killing of her baby sister, his other Aunt!

That would be the day that I would kiss ALL of them good bye and good riddance! They're ALL sick, Mr. Homolka included!

JMO and MOO!!

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by hamiltonmom_101

From what i read the cas is not going to interfer with the family and i read that in the toronto sun.As far as i am concern she does not deserve to have children at all. And as for those tapes they could of allowed into the courts but the lawyers were to concern of not getting bernardo. They were more worried about that than trying to nail Karla for what she really deserved she got off quite lucky.
And no they will not let bernardo speak about the case they have barred him from talking about it.

This is what makes my blood boil. They are two sides to every story and I would really like to hear Paul's side. I think that is the reason that they have barred him from talking is because they know that Paul could really show them for the a***s that they ALL really are!

Don't get me wrong. I hate Paul as much as the next person and feel that he is definitely where he belongs. However, Karla should still be in prison for life right along side of him! She got off way too easy in my book for what she did. In fact, better yet, both of them should really be six feet under ~ just like their poor innocent victims!

JMO and MOO!!

[Enjoli]

I just read the CL article on Karla's baby boy and the history of serial killers as moms and I have a bad feeling about this whole thing. Mostly I am really apprehensive and sorry for that baby.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...a_homolka.html

[bchand]

Originally Posted by Merrick

Hopefully they'll find a remote, sparsely populated island somewhere and live in obscurity for the remainder of their lives with minimal contact with decent human beings. I would love to know what this guy she's marrying was thinking? I know some people get off being connected to the infamous, but this is sick.

Karla was just as guilty and just as complicit in the crimes she and Paul commited. To do what she did to her little sister as a gift for Paul is beyond the pale of depravity. They both should have been executed for their crime, which they well documented with videos so they could relive them for their own sick pleasure. Yes, the Canadian government has let us all down where those two were concerned. But, I still love Canada! JMLOHO.

I agree with your post completely. How can she ever explain what she did to her child? It is disgusting and I think she should be in prison for the rest of her life.

[cami]

Originally Posted by Chocoholic

I'd like to know if she is still under probation and if so, what the terms are.

No she's not and never has been under probation. She served her term, 12 years, that she was sentenced to. Once your sentence is complete, you get out.

[cami]

Originally Posted by goatgirl

hey Canadian Bum

I thought you couldn't enter the U.S if you have a Criminal record

see ya

Wouldn't that be up to the US to keep her out if she tries to cross the border? Nothing Canada can do to keep her here.

[cami]

Originally Posted by Merrick

First, I want to say I love your avatar! I can understand about her wanting a baby, but I question her motives. There is a psychological syndrome that for the life of me I can't remember but it has to do with having a baby to replace a life you've taken. IIRC, D. Downs was diagnosed with it. It's a flaw in one's personality where you feel one life is easily replaced by another's. Someone help me out here, it's not like me to forget what it's called and my search engineers are out of gas,

Merrick, it's "fungible" I don't think it's a character flaw..it's just a word the prosecutor, Hugi, came up with to describe Diane's attitude toward children. The explanation was/is "being of such a nature or kind that one unit or part may be exchanged or substituted for another equivalent unit or part in the discharging of an obligation"

Diane was diagnosed with three separate personality disorders. Sociopathic, Narcissistic and Histrionic.

[TallaTonight]

Originally Posted by Enjoli

I just read the CL article on Karla's baby boy and the history of serial killers as moms and I have a bad feeling about this whole thing. Mostly I am really apprehensive and sorry for that baby.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...a_homolka.html

I share that bad feeling with you.

[cami]

Originally Posted by Merrick

Cami,

Thank you very much for your response. Diane was a real piece of work, for sure.

Merrick

A very dangerous woman. I still cannot grasp what that woman did to her children and to everyone she touched. It just boggles my mind that she could shoot her own children. Like Homolka...she killed her own sister, the @#@$@$$@. She should be where Paul is...in a concrete 9x6. And now she's breeding...what a gene pool to select from. That whole family is strange.

Ironic that I am re reading SS and when I saw your post...well there was the info right at hand.

[cami]

Originally Posted by 2L8 4A D8

This is what makes my blood boil. They are two sides to every story and I would really like to hear Paul's side. I think that is the reason that they have barred him from talking is because they know that Paul could really show them for the a***s that they ALL really are!

Don't get me wrong. I hate Paul as much as the next person and feel that he is definitely where he belongs. However, Karla should still be in prison for life right along side of him! She got off way too easy in my book for what she did. In fact, better yet, both of them should really be six feet under ~ just like their poor innocent victims!

JMO and MOO!!

You know 2L8, I think her mother clings to the belief that Karla was Paul's victim...that he beat her into doing the things she did. I think she has to. How could she live with herself if she didn't I wonder?

I think we all know what Paul has to say. He's said it all before. He'll say that Karla kidnapped those girls and that Karla murdered those girls. He'll say anything to try and place the blame on someone else in typical psychopathic fashion. Oh yeah he raped them and beat them but he didn't kill them. It would be very interesting if someone did a study on Paul..like Roy Hazlewood for example don't you think. His conclusion on Karla was she was a compliant victim of a sexual sadist...one of the reports her deal was based on. I wonder what he thinks now??

I know people get angry at me for this but I think Paul Bernardo is far, far, far more dangerous than Karla Homolka. If he thinks he can shift blame to her...he'll find a way to appeal his DO status and get parolled someday and we can't let that ever happen. Paul would have ended up a killer regardless of Homolka. I don't lose sight of the fact of how dangerous she is as well. She killed her own sister as far as I am concerned and she should be serving life for it. She has the potential to reoffend at any time. She hasn't so far and I don't think she will but again we can never let down our guard where either of these two are concerned.

Did you ever go see the movie? It wasn't played in my little corner of Canada.

Originally Posted by cami

You know 2L8, I think her mother clings to the belief that Karla was Paul's victim...that he beat her into doing the things she did. I think she has to. How could she live with herself if she didn't I wonder?

I think we all know what Paul has to say. He's said it all before. He'll say that Karla kidnapped those girls and that Karla murdered those girls. He'll say anything to try and place the blame on someone else in typical psychopathic fashion. Oh yeah he raped them and beat them but he didn't kill them. It would be very interesting if someone did a study on Paul..like Roy Hazlewood for example don't you think. His conclusion on Karla was she was a compliant victim of a sexual sadist...one of the reports her deal was based on. I wonder what he thinks now??

I know people get angry at me for this but I think Paul Bernardo is far, far, far more dangerous than Karla Homolka. If he thinks he can shift blame to her...he'll find a way to appeal his DO status and get parolled someday and we can't let that ever happen. Paul would have ended up a killer regardless of Homolka. I don't lose sight of the fact of how dangerous she is as well. She killed her own sister as far as I am concerned and she should be serving life for it. She has the potential to reoffend at any time. She hasn't so far and I don't think she will but again we can never let down our guard where either of these two are concerned.

Did you ever go see the movie? It wasn't played in my little corner of Canada.

The news that KH is a "mother", and I use the term very loosely, makes me want to puke. Canada should have sterilized her upon release.

I couldnt agree more with your comments here. I think PB was and is a dangerous sociopath who would have escalated to murder no matter what.

However, KH is also a dangerous sociopath who should be locked up for life. For it was she who set up her own sister to be raped and lured Kristen French over to the car. SHe was also the one who stole the drugs to be used in the attacks.

I think her lenient sentence can be blamed on the double standard within the justice system. I always wonder what PB's partner in crime would have received if he was a man. I am sure he'd be rotting in prison with his accomplice--Karla should be serving the same sentence.

And that she is being supported by her obviously deranged family is beyond comprehension.

I should add that my heart breaks for this poor innocent baby.

This is just one more selfish example of KH's malignant narcisism.

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by cami

You know 2L8, I think her mother clings to the belief that Karla was Paul's victim...that he beat her into doing the things she did. I think she has to. How could she live with herself if she didn't I wonder?

I think we all know what Paul has to say. He's said it all before. He'll say that Karla kidnapped those girls and that Karla murdered those girls. He'll say anything to try and place the blame on someone else in typical psychopathic fashion. Oh yeah he raped them and beat them but he didn't kill them. It would be very interesting if someone did a study on Paul..like Roy Hazlewood for example don't you think. His conclusion on Karla was she was a compliant victim of a sexual sadist...one of the reports her deal was based on. I wonder what he thinks now??

I know people get angry at me for this but I think Paul Bernardo is far, far, far more dangerous than Karla Homolka. If he thinks he can shift blame to her...he'll find a way to appeal his DO status and get parolled someday and we can't let that ever happen. Paul would have ended up a killer regardless of Homolka. I don't lose sight of the fact of how dangerous she is as well. She killed her own sister as far as I am concerned and she should be serving life for it. She has the potential to reoffend at any time. She hasn't so far and I don't think she will but again we can never let down our guard where either of these two are concerned.

Did you ever go see the movie? It wasn't played in my little corner of Canada.

I agree Cami, but I still would like to hear what he has to say. Yes, I think that he would paint a bad picture of Karla just to take some heat off of himself, but it would be interesting to hear nonetheless. If Paul was ever parolled, and I doubt it, I don't think that the Canadian Government wants to even go there after what they did to let Karla beat her rap. Furthermore, you can bet that there would be a bullet with his name on it waiting for him as he walked out the door!

If the movie ever showed here in the States, it was for about one day in Podunk somewhere. I would not have gone to see it even if I got in for free!

Good seeing you post Cami. Take care my Canadian friend!

[OYM]

karla is on probation...But its a not a "strick" probation..or not in my books anyways....1) She has to inform police of her address or any kind of address change . 2) She has to give 72 hours notice if she is planing on traviling 3) She is not allowed contact with Paul or the vic's families. 4) She has to give a DNA sample for police records 5) she is not allowed contact with any child under the age of 16.

Which brings me to the fact that shes a mom! I cant belive the law would allow this. Not to mention she was released on July 4th, 2006. The baby was born on Feburary 9th 2007....can anyone else do the math with me..July to Feb is just 7 months...the last time I checked women were pregnent for 9 months...so she must of already been prego when she was released from jail, which means the daddy of the baby might just be a jail gard... is there not laws againts gards being involved with inmates?