Brentwood murders

[Marissa]

Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?

[sassylassy]

Greetings Marissa


Sorry, I never heard of the narcotics unit going to the crime scene?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?

Marissa hi

I did not know the narcotic unit went to Bundy first.


I have read that the DEA was investigating some level of drug
business at Mazzula (sp) resturant and in and around Brentwood.

I do have ideaS as to why vanhatter delayed the arrival of the coroner to Bundy. I think it was something like 12 hours. Not sure though.IMO

I have always thought the coronor should be called immediately when a dead body is found if one is interested in determining the correct time of death amd to prevent improper movement of the bodies and evidence.

martin II

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?

Welcome. Since no one seems to know what you are talking about, I think that you need to supply a link or some kind of substantiation to back up your questions so that we can all see for ourselves. Also, your questions could have very well been put under the Thread entitled "Unanswered Questions in the OJ Case" instead of starting a new Thread.

JMO and MOO!!

[William Anthony]

Marissa,

Welcome and prepare for a bumpy ride, smile. This is the first I have heard of the narcos being called.

[2L8 4A D8]

Unless this Poster can substantiate her queries through a link, this whole Thread is a moot point as far as I am concerned. One post? GMAB!

If anyone can find a link re: this matter, then by all means post it! Until then, it is just unsubstantiated bullsh*t!

JMO and MOO!!

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?

As you can see, you have just encountered your first pothole.

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

As you can see, you have just encountered your first pothole.

Who are you talking to? Your Gal isn't coming back and if she does, she better bring a "link" with her! What part of "unless her queries can be substantiated with a link" don't you get? You, of all people, should want to know if what she says is cr@p or not!

Oh yeah, I forgot ~ you've just got to have the last assinine word!

JMO and MOO!!

[weezer]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?

I've never heard/read that anywhere but since orenthal was the only person involved in that night that had drugs in his system and since he had been coming and going from Nicole's in the weeks prior to her death -- maybe they thought he was using Bundy to stash his drugs? IMO

BTW -- can you give us a link to your statement about the narcotics unit?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I've never heard/read that anywhere but since orenthal was the only person involved in that night that had drugs in his system and since he had been coming and going from Nicole's in the weeks prior to her death -- maybe they thought he was using Bundy to stash his drugs? IMO

BTW -- can you give us a link to your statement about the narcotics unit?

weeer

or since the DEA had a investigation going on that included the Mezzaluna resturant and some of its employees they could have been looking to catch a drug shipment and were watching or following Ron when he left work and went to nicoles. Or they may have mistook Ron fhe K. Z.
But i have not heard of this only there was a ongoing FEA investigation.
jmo imo
martin II

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

weeer

or since the DEA had a investigation going on that included the Mezzaluna resturant and some of its employees they could have been looking to catch a drug shipment and were watching or following Ron when he left work and went to nicoles. Or they may have mistook Ron fhe K. Z.
But i have not heard of this only there was a ongoing FEA investigation.
jmo imo
martin II

nah -- my money is on the drug user orenthal james simpson. IMO

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by 2L8 4A D8

Who are you talking to? Your Gal isn't coming back and if she does, she better bring a "link" with her! What part of "unless her queries can be substantiated with a link" don't you get? You, of all people, should want to know if what she says is cr@p or not!

Oh yeah, I forgot ~ you've just got to have the last assinine word!

JMO and MOO!!

The last and maybe only assinine words, imh&Ro, are posted by you. How can you substantiate a question with a link? She has sought information and the only people other than me (as a vu) are the ngs to have said they never heard of the narcs being called. I am assuming Classy Sassy Lassy is a ng.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

The last and maybe only assinine words, imh&Ro, are posted by you. How can you substantiate a question with a link? She has sought information and the only people other than me (as a vu) are the ngs to have said they never heard of the narcs being called. I am assuming Classy Sassy Lassy is a ng.

what i don't understand is-----
3 questions were asked. no one has offered any info so far. So the request for a LINK is for what????

Maby this is a new rule the PLAY moderator has for us.

martin II

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by martin II

what i don't understand is-----
3 questions were asked. no one has offered any info so far. So the request for a LINK is for what????

Maby this is a new rule the PLAY moderator has for us.

martin II

I had a problem understanding how a request could be considered a statement, until I considered the sources. They, who talk about others' abilities with the English language, obviously, never took or took English 101 so long ago, that it has become obscure to them. Perhaps, they should review the types of sentences before making unnecessary remarks that tend to discourage new posters.

[martin II]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I had a problem understanding how a request could be considered a statement, until I considered the sources. They, who talk about others' abilities with the English language, obviously, never took or took English 101 so long ago, that it has become obscure to them. Perhaps, they should review the types of sentences before making unnecessary remarks that tend to discourage new posters.

Maby the person doing the critiqing is a collage english professor, the president of a university, lawyer, author of a "how to write english" book etc. but without them explaining THEIR profession, it may be difficult for people to take them serious.
IMO
MARETIN ii

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by martin II

Maby the person doing the critiqing is a collage english professor, the president of a university, lawyer, author of a "how to write english" book etc. but without them explaining THEIR profession, it may be difficult for people to take them serious.
IMO
MARETIN ii

I have no idea. Although they realze that they were questions, as evidenced by this, "Welcome. Since no one seems to know what you are talking about, I think that you need to supply a link or some kind of substantiation to back up your questions so that we can all see for ourselves. Also, your questions could have very well been put under the Thread entitled "Unanswered Questions in the OJ Case" instead of starting a new Thread.

JMO and MOO!!", they want a link. Are we now playing jeopardy, in that we are to provide answers in the form of questions? Is Alex here?

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by martin II

Maby the person doing the critiqing is a collage english professor, the president of a university, lawyer, author of a "how to write english" book etc. but without them explaining THEIR profession, it may be difficult for people to take them serious.
IMO
MARETIN ii

"collage english professor"???? Good grief, now you can't even spell your own name "MARETIN".

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I have no idea. Although they realze that they were questions, as evidenced by this, "Welcome. Since no one seems to know what you are talking about, I think that you need to supply a link or some kind of substantiation to back up your questions so that we can all see for ourselves. Also, your questions could have very well been put under the Thread entitled "Unanswered Questions in the OJ Case" instead of starting a new Thread.

JMO and MOO!!", they want a link. Are we now playing jeopardy, in that we are to provide answers in the form of questions? Is Alex here?

Yeah, laugh it up genius! I guess you forgot about the following post. Duh!

06-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Freshwater
Administrator

Forum Rules

"This is an experimental forum. Given the heated natue of this case, it will be important to provide links, show your reasoning..."

This gal isn't coming back! She only started this Thread to bait, incite and inflame Posters and you and Martin fell for it, hook, line and sinker! It says a lot about the two of you that you both seemed to automatically take this gal's post as Gospel! As usual, I will just consider the sources! I am the only one with any common sense that called her on it!

If she comes back, she'd better bring a link with her. And if she doesn't, she and this Thread will be reported!

JMO and MOO!!

[Suzee10]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I've never heard/read that anywhere but since orenthal was the only person involved in that night that had drugs in his system and since he had been coming and going from Nicole's in the weeks prior to her death -- maybe they thought he was using Bundy to stash his drugs? IMO

BTW -- can you give us a link to your statement about the narcotics unit?

I have to agree with you on this fbjweezer. Sounds like one the theories people are out and about, lol. I had never heard this no matter how much the ng's tried to make Nicole out to be a drug user. She nor Ron had any drugs in their systems at the time of their death and they sure were not aware they would be murdered.

If there were any narcotics officers there they were following simpson.

[Suzee10]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

nah -- my money is on the drug user orenthal james simpson. IMO

Yeah it was simpson.

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by 2L8 4A D8

Yeah, laugh it up genius! I guess you forgot about the following post. Duh!

06-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Freshwater
Administrator

Forum Rules

"This is an experimental forum. Given the heated natue of this case, it will be important to provide links, show your reasoning..."

This gal isn't coming back! She only started this Thread to bait, incite and inflame Posters and you and Martin fell for it, hook, line and sinker! It says a lot about the two of you that you both seemed to automatically take this gal's post as Gospel! As usual, I will just consider the sources! I am the only one with any common sense that called her on it!

If she comes back, she'd better bring a link with her. And if she doesn't, she and this Thread will be reported!

JMO and MOO!!

How pray tell is asking a question reasoning? You seem to want everyone reported who questions this case? I think my post was very similar to the one and only Classy Sassy Lassy's. Why did you forget to mention her? Because I responded that I have never heard that the narcs. were called, you seem to jump to the erroneous conclusion, as is your tendency, imho, that I bought into something. I do not understand how you can falsely accuse me of that, when any reasonable thinking rational person would see that I was just informing the poster that the question was beyond my sphere of knowledge. You seem to have hastily and incorrectly jumped to the conclusion that the poster was making a statement as opposed to asking a question. One may look at it as though you were baiting and trying to intimidate the poster.

[martin II]

william
one quesiton Marissa,a new poster here asked, is a valid quesition. "why did it take so long for the coronor to be called to the murder scene" this quesiton deserves discussion.imo

I believe the coroner was not called until 12 hours after the discovery of the bodies.This does not seem to be the mormal procedure for LE.

Her other questions seemed to asking for information so i think it was unfair to Marissa to be attacked as she was for her post.
martin II

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by martin II

william
one quesiton Marissa,a new poster here asked, is a valid quesition. "why did it take so long for the coronor to be called to the murder scene" this quesiton deserves discussion.imo

I believe the coroner was not called until 12 hours after the discovery of the bodies.This does not seem to be the mormal procedure for LE.

Her other questions seemed to asking for information so i think it was unfair to Marissa to be attacked as she was for her post.
martin II

I do not think anyone should be attacked for asking a question. I am amazed at how quickly and nastily some of the posters on this board will attack. It is as if they live for nothing other than to attack anyone who questions anything about the case. Perhaps, Marissa is much smater than I am. Perhaps, I should follow her lead and not return. No, that is what those posters, who, imho, see the problems with their conclusion want. I am not so thin-skined as to run to Freshwater, when the weather gets too too hot.

[martin II]

William

I agree

But, responding to unfair attacks and threats all day does tend to smother valid discussion of the case that some gs and ngs attempt to engage in here.
It does seem to just go on and on.

martin II

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?

Hi Marissa,

I have exhausted all efforts in researching the idea that a Narcotics Unit was dispatched to Bundy but have been unable to find any information to substantiate the possibility.

Can you advise where you might have heard something of this nature?

Thanks,
Kate

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

I do not think anyone should be attacked for asking a question. I am amazed at how quickly and nastily some of the posters on this board will attack. It is as if they live for nothing other than to attack anyone who questions anything about the case. Perhaps, Marissa is much smater than I am. Perhaps, I should follow her lead and not return. No, that is what those posters, who, imho, see the problems with their conclusion want. I am not so thin-skined as to run to Freshwater, when the weather gets too too hot.

I do agree that some individuals strike quickly, but I would caution to remember that it happens on each side of the fence.

Kate

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

I do agree that some individuals strike quickly, but I would caution to remember that it happens on each side of the fence.

Kate

As always, I take your advisement into consideration. However, in this case I do believe I already did, smile. I did not limit or intend to limit it to any side. It is nice to see you posting.

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by William Anthony

As always, I take your advisement into consideration. However, in this case I do believe I already did, smile. I did not limit or intend to limit it to any side. It is nice to see you posting.

You are always kind to me in that way, thank you.

I did not mean to sound as though I was accusing you, I just thought it worthy to mention based on the unpleasant dealings I have had recently with an individual on this forum.

Kate

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

You are always kind to me in that way, thank you.

I did not mean to sound as though I was accusing you, I just thought it worthy to mention based on the unpleasant dealings I have had recently with an individual on this forum.

Kate

Kinetic Kate,

I do believe I understand, and, I have, likewise, had some recent similar encounters. I thank you for your kind and gracious acknowledgement.

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?

Originally Posted by 2L8 4A D8

Welcome. Since no one seems to know what you are talking about, I think that you need to supply a link or some kind of substantiation to back up your questions so that we can all see for ourselves.

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JMO and MOO!!

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

I've never heard/read that anywhere but since orenthal was the only person involved in that night that had drugs in his system and since he had been coming and going from Nicole's in the weeks prior to her death -- maybe they thought he was using Bundy to stash his drugs? IMO

BTW -- can you give us a link to your statement about the narcotics unit?

Originally Posted by 2L8 4A D8

<snipped>

06-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Freshwater
Administrator

Forum Rules

"This is an experimental forum. Given the heated natue of this case, it will be important to provide links, show your reasoning..."

<snipped>

JMO and MOO!!

Originally Posted by Kate Sachel

Hi Marissa,

I have exhausted all efforts in researching the idea that a Narcotics Unit was dispatched to Bundy but have been unable to find any information to substantiate the possibility.

Can you advise where you might have heard something of this nature?

Thanks,
Kate

Originally Posted by William Anthony

<snipped>

One may look at it as though you were baiting and trying to intimidate the poster.

Uh huh, yeah right! From the looks of the posts above, it seems that I am not the only one who requested a link or some kind of substantiation from this Poster.

If she would have checked the Forum Rules, she would have saw Freshwater's post and either (1) she wouldn't have posted or (2) she would have posted and included a link or substantiation. She did neither. Not my problem!

JMO and MOO!!

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by 2L8 4A D8

Uh huh, yeah right! From the looks of the posts above, it seems that I am not the only one who requested a link or some kind of substantiation from this Poster.

If she would have checked the Forum Rules, she would have saw Freshwater's post and either (1) she wouldn't have posted or (2) she would have posted and included a link or substantiation. She did neither. Not my problem!

JMO and MOO!!

I have never said you were the only one to ask for a link, but I will say that you are the only one to have told her what she better do and threatened to report her (attack). Does this statement ring a bell, "If she comes back, she'd better bring a link with her. And if she doesn't, she and this Thread will be reported!"? She merely asked did anyone read that the narcs had been called to the crime scene. I do not know how she can provide a link to what others have read. Perhaps, you will be so gracious as to explain that to me?

[Marissa]

Ok here is the link this is what I was talking about. Commanding officer Constance Dial is charge of narcotics unit



http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...6d762c836e81c8

Sorry I am new to this but look up that website

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Ok here is the link this is what I was talking about. Commanding officer Constance Dial is charge of narcotics unit



http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...6d762c836e81c8

Sorry I am new to this but look up that website

Isn't that just another message board & that is someone's post?

[William Anthony]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Ok here is the link this is what I was talking about. Commanding officer Constance Dial is charge of narcotics unit



http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...6d762c836e81c8

Sorry I am new to this but look up that website

I do remember the name of Constance Dial being mentioned during the criminal trial, although I am not sure of the context in which it was mentioned.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by Marissa

Ok here is the link this is what I was talking about. Commanding officer Constance Dial is charge of narcotics unit



http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...6d762c836e81c8

Sorry I am new to this but look up that website

Sorry but I don't see the connection except someone wrote in their post -- quoting from an article/book. Maybe you could be a little more specific in your conclusion/statement that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

Sorry but I don't see the connection except someone wrote in their post -- quoting from an article/book. Maybe you could be a little more specific in your conclusion/statement that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?

weezer
i guess one would have to look at the LA TIMES archives to find the story.
If true then my question is why was this unit at Bundy on 6/12/
martin II

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

weezer
i guess one would have to look at the LA TIMES archives to find the story.
If true then my question is why was this unit at Bundy on 6/12/
martin II

that's not even what the blog says -- good grief martin!

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

that's not even what the blog says -- good grief martin!

weezer

now maby you can tell me what this says.

gees weezer can you read.

blog.

March 1, 1996: The LOS ANGELES TIMES reported a new scandal in a story
headlined "LAPD Drug OFficer Being Investigated." The charge involved
the Field Enforcement Section of the LAPD Narcotics Group. This unit
was under the command of Captain Constance Dial--who had been one of
thsoe in charge of the Bundy crime scene on June 12, 1994. The story
began: "Authorities fear detectives may have lied on court
documents..." On the same day, another story in the same paper is
headlined: Deputy Accused of Planting Evidence Surrenders.



captain dial was definately at Bundy early on as she is referred to in Commander Bushey's testimony.

[weezer]

Originally Posted by martin II

weezer

now maby you can tell me what this says.

gees weezer can you read.

blog.

March 1, 1996: The LOS ANGELES TIMES reported a new scandal in a story
headlined "LAPD Drug OFficer Being Investigated." The charge involved
the Field Enforcement Section of the LAPD Narcotics Group. This unit
was under the command of Captain Constance Dial--who had been one of
thsoe in charge of the Bundy crime scene on June 12, 1994. The story
began: "Authorities fear detectives may have lied on court
documents..." On the same day, another story in the same paper is
headlined: Deputy Accused of Planting Evidence Surrenders.



captain dial was definately at Bundy early on as she is referred to in Commander Bushey's testimony.

and? what does that have to do with lie that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

and? what does that have to do with lie that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?

weezer

First. you do agree that the blog referred to a story in the LA TIMES.

I don't know if it is a lie or not that is why i suggested that the facts would be found in the LA TIMES.(WHICH YOU DID NOT UINDERSTAND)

I don't know if it is true and you do not know if it is a lie.

But she definately was on scene.
martin II