Goldmans Sue

[sassylassy]

Goldman family sue---

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - The family of one of OJ Simpson's alleged murder victims are to sue the disgraced sport star, lawyers said, claiming he profited from a now-scrapped book on the 1994 killings.

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Simpson provoked an outcry last month after publishers announced plans for his book "If I Did It", where he described how he would have carried out the murders of ex-wife Nicole and her friend Ron Goldman, if he had been the actual killer.

The 59-year-old was acquitted of the gruesome double-murder after a racially charged Los Angeles trial in 1995.

But he was later found liable for the slayings in a subsequent wrongful death lawsuit heard in civil courts.

Simpson, however, has yet to pay any of the 33.5 million dollar damages award made to the families of Simpson and Goldman the the civil case.

Publication of "If I Did It" -- for which Simpson was reportedly to be paid several million dollars -- was cancelled on the orders of News Corp media tycoon owner Rupert Murdoch following a wave of condemnation.

Judith Regan, the controversial publisher who had brokered the book deal for HarperCollins, a News Corp subsidiary, was fired last week.

Lawyers for Goldman's parents say in the lawsuit due to be filed in Los Angeles Tuesday that Simpson tried to hide a one million dollar advance he received for the book.

The legal action is against Simpson and Lorraine Brooke Associates, which lawyer Jonathan Polak said was a shell company set up to conceal the payment. "Lorraine" and "Brooke" are the middle names of Simpson's children, he said.

The lawsuit would also "likely result in additional defendants being named," including News Corp, HarperCollins and Regan.

"I look forward to learning through this process who all worked with the killer to profit from the death of my son," Fred Goldman said.

"We will not stop until we are able to shine the light of truth on those that acted in concert with him."

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[sassylassy]

I meant to post this on the Oj book thread

[martin II]

Originally Posted by sassylassy

Goldman family sue---

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - The family of one of OJ Simpson's alleged murder victims are to sue the disgraced sport star, lawyers said, claiming he profited from a now-scrapped book on the 1994 killings.

ADVERTISEMENT

Simpson provoked an outcry last month after publishers announced plans for his book "If I Did It", where he described how he would have carried out the murders of ex-wife Nicole and her friend Ron Goldman, if he had been the actual killer.

The 59-year-old was acquitted of the gruesome double-murder after a racially charged Los Angeles trial in 1995.

But he was later found liable for the slayings in a subsequent wrongful death lawsuit heard in civil courts.

Simpson, however, has yet to pay any of the 33.5 million dollar damages award made to the families of Simpson and Goldman the the civil case.

Publication of "If I Did It" -- for which Simpson was reportedly to be paid several million dollars -- was cancelled on the orders of News Corp media tycoon owner Rupert Murdoch following a wave of condemnation.

Judith Regan, the controversial publisher who had brokered the book deal for HarperCollins, a News Corp subsidiary, was fired last week.

Lawyers for Goldman's parents say in the lawsuit due to be filed in Los Angeles Tuesday that Simpson tried to hide a one million dollar advance he received for the book.

The legal action is against Simpson and Lorraine Brooke Associates, which lawyer Jonathan Polak said was a shell company set up to conceal the payment. "Lorraine" and "Brooke" are the middle names of Simpson's children, he said.

The lawsuit would also "likely result in additional defendants being named," including News Corp, HarperCollins and Regan.

"I look forward to learning through this process who all worked with the killer to profit from the death of my son," Fred Goldman said.

"We will not stop until we are able to shine the light of truth on those that acted in concert with him."

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Fred is after the money again.
I guess we will have to wait and see how this plays out.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

Originally Posted by sassylassy

Goldman family sue---

*snip*
The legal action is against Simpson and Lorraine Brooke Associates, which lawyer Jonathan Polak said was a shell company set up to conceal the payment. "Lorraine" and "Brooke" are the middle names of Simpson's children, he said.

The lawsuit would also "likely result in additional defendants being named," including News Corp, HarperCollins and Regan.

"I look forward to learning through this process who all worked with the killer to profit from the death of my son," Fred Goldman said.

"We will not stop until we are able to shine the light of truth on those that acted in concert with him."

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Good luck to Fred Goldman! I hope he stops any and all attempts of OJ trying to profit off of these murders. OJ can never wash the blood off of his hands.

Good luck Mr Goldman!

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tazzybaby

Good luck to Fred Goldman! I hope he stops any and all attempts of OJ trying to profit off of these murders. OJ can never wash the blood off of his hands.

Good luck Mr Goldman!

Regan's lawyer says that neither she nor the Murdoch companies have anything to fear from the Goldmans' suit. "They have no claim whatsoever. It will be thrown out of court," said Bert Fields.

Regan was told "the money was going to Simpson's children" and neither she, nor the companies, had any legal obligation to help the Goldmans collect their judgment, Fields said.

martin II

[Kate Sachel]

Originally Posted by tazzybaby

Good luck to Fred Goldman! I hope he stops any and all attempts of OJ trying to profit off of these murders. OJ can never wash the blood off of his hands.

Good luck Mr Goldman!

I agree.

There seems to be no end to this man's criminal activity. I have heard some individuals grumble about how OJ has been "picked on" by being charged with pirating satellite television and investigated regarding hidden assets.

It never ceases to amaze me that these people seem to forget that pirating satellite is a crime, and that hiding assets to avoid creditors is also a crime.

Two crimes, might I add, that a regular civil would be charged with relentlessly.

Kate

[jotun]

Originally Posted by martin II

Regan's lawyer says that neither she nor the Murdoch companies have anything to fear from the Goldmans' suit. "They have no claim whatsoever. It will be thrown out of court," said Bert Fields.

Regan was told "the money was going to Simpson's children" and neither she, nor the companies, had any legal obligation to help the Goldmans collect their judgment, Fields said.

martin II

Martin,
That's EXACTLY what the talking-head
lawyers said on Nasty Grace last night.
Including O.J.'s lawyer Yale Galanter.
Also O.J.has no obligation to inform Show Me The Money-Goldman of any money he receives.

jotun

[martin II]

Originally Posted by jotun

Martin,
That's EXACTLY what the talking-head
lawyers said on Nasty Grace last night.
Including O.J.'s lawyer Yale Galanter.
Also O.J.has no obligation to inform Show Me The Money-Goldman of any money he receives.

jotun

jotun

I don't think that Regan had any obligation to inform fred of any business transaction between herself and the broker company that sold her the rights.
imo
martin II

[martin II]

jotun

it seems that fred believes that Harper Collins should give him the rights to the book and the interview. At least he has requested that they give him the rights.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

Originally Posted by jotun

Martin,
That's EXACTLY what the talking-head
lawyers said on Nasty Grace last night.
Including O.J.'s lawyer Yale Galanter.
Also O.J.has no obligation to inform Show Me The Money-Goldman of any money he receives.

jotun

Yale Galanter knows nothing. He's a joke as OJ's lawyer. He didn't even know this book existed. Or did he?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by tazzybaby

Yale Galanter knows nothing. He's a joke as OJ's lawyer. He didn't even know this book existed. Or did he?

tazzy hi

Considering freds latest court action do you still believe he is not after money?

martin II

[sassylassy]

Did anyone catch Nancy Grace the other night, she was discussing the Goldman lawsuit- they were saying the Goldmans most likely will not get any of the book money from OJ - they also said OJ doesnt legally have to inform the Goldmans when he makes any money.

I didnt know that.

Nancy & fred were calling the book a "murder manual" I wonder how they can all say that when
no-one has read the book?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by sassylassy

Did anyone catch Nancy Grace the other night, she was discussing the Goldman lawsuit- they were saying the Goldmans most likely will not get any of the book money from OJ - they also said OJ doesnt legally have to inform the Goldmans when he makes any money.

I didnt know that.

Nancy & fred were calling the book a "murder manual" I wonder how they can all say that when
no-one has read the book?

sassy lassy

Nancy Grace does not require facts to make statements on her show.

Oj continues to say that he is within the law on the issue of money he makes and fred being paid.

Fred has a judgement against oj. But this does not mean that oj must report to fred that he made money last week. I guess it means that oj can work (Florida is a right to work state) or make money and it is up to him to decide if he wants to pay fred. If he does not volunteer to do so and fred is unable to find oj's money, say in a bank account, then the judgement will remain unpaid.
martin II

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by martin II

sassy lassy

Nancy Grace does not require facts to make statements on her show.

Oj continues to say that he is within the law on the issue of money he makes and fred being paid.

Fred has a judgement against oj. But this does not mean that oj must report to fred that he made money last week. I guess it means that oj can work (Florida is a right to work state) or make money and it is up to him to decide if he wants to pay fred. If he does not volunteer to do so and fred is unable to find oj's money, say in a bank account, then the judgement will remain unpaid.
martin II

Obviously you didn't see the show, but that doesn't stop you from making silly posts about it. It was never said that OJ must "report to fred that he made money last week", but the Goldman's have the right to trace the earnings they know about & try to attach it before it's spent. You are wrong when you state that "it's up to him to decide if he wants to pay fred". That's just stupid. If he had a regular job, with traceable earnings, it would not be up to him as to whether or not he wanted to pay. That's why he refuses to work, other than these shady efforts at freak shows etc.

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by martin II

*snip*
Nancy Grace does not require facts to make statements on her show.

Nor do you require facts before posting something, based on all of the incorrect, false stuff you post. I'll go with Nancy Grace's facts over yours any day of the week

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by sassylassy

Did anyone catch Nancy Grace the other night, she was discussing the Goldman lawsuit- they were saying the Goldmans most likely will not get any of the book money from OJ - they also said OJ doesnt legally have to inform the Goldmans when he makes any money.

I didnt know that.

Nancy & fred were calling the book a "murder manual" I wonder how they can all say that when
no-one has read the book?

It was stated that in civil judgements, it's pretty much up to the party to pursue the earnings of the person ordered to pay. The state/court doesn't do it for you.

As for the book being referred to as a "murder manual", why would no one reading the book change the content? Portions of it have been reported on & the title was "if I did it".

[limakey]

Taz,

I have a few problems with Fred's quotes. First, either he wants Simpson to pay the judgement or he doesn't. IMO, I don't think he wants Simpson to pay the judgement because once the judgement is paid, then they have no way into his life. Think about, if the judgement is paid, then Fred has no more right to have Simpson's finances investigated.

IMO, his comments about "shedding light on those who acted in concert with him" might very well backfire on him and his family. The Goldmans' have always said the money was not the issue, yet, IMO, I have a hard time understanding why he wants to go after anyone who acted in concert with him to hide money yet has shown no interest in going after any accomplices who were acting in concert with him regarding the murders. His own lawyer strongly believes that Simpson had help getting rid of evidence, yet Mr. Goldman doesn't want to shed light on that person?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by limakey

Taz,

I have a few problems with Fred's quotes. First, either he wants Simpson to pay the judgement or he doesn't. IMO, I don't think he wants Simpson to pay the judgement because once the judgement is paid, then they have no way into his life. Think about, if the judgement is paid, then Fred has no more right to have Simpson's finances investigated.

IMO, his comments about "shedding light on those who acted in concert with him" might very well backfire on him and his family. The Goldmans' have always said the money was not the issue, yet, IMO, I have a hard time understanding why he wants to go after anyone who acted in concert with him to hide money yet has shown no interest in going after any accomplices who were acting in concert with him regarding the murders. His own lawyer strongly believes that Simpson had help getting rid of evidence, yet Mr. Goldman doesn't want to shed light on that person?

LIMAKEY
Regradless of what fred says, his actions indicates that he is after money.
Period.

martin II

[sassylassy]

Originally Posted by socaldiva

*It was stated that in civil judgements, it's pretty much up to the party to pursue the earnings of the person ordered to pay. The state/court doesn't do it for you.

**As for the book being referred to as a "murder manual", why would no one reading the book change the content? Portions of it have been reported on & the title was "if I did it".

*thats what I said. Ojs doesnt have to inform the goldmans of his earnings-


**I find it hard to form an opinion on something you havent read or seen with your own 2 eyes. reminds me of that saying: dont judge a book by its cover. JMO IMO

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by sassylassy

*thats what I said. Ojs doesnt have to inform the goldmans of his earnings-

**I find it hard to form an opinion on something you havent read or seen with your own 2 eyes. reminds me of that saying: dont judge a book by its cover. JMO IMO

No, that's not what you said. Read your post again! Duh!

Originally Posted by sassylassy
Did anyone catch Nancy Grace the other night, she was discussing the Goldman lawsuit- they were saying the Goldmans most likely will not get any of the book money from OJ - they also said OJ doesnt legally have to inform the Goldmans when he makes any money.

I didnt know that.

<snipped>

[jotun]

Originally Posted by martin II

jotun

it seems that fred believes that Harper Collins should give him the rights to the book and the interview. At least he has requested that they give him the rights.
martin II

Martin,
Even Goldigger's own lawyer Polock said on tv that NewsCorp ONLY had the right to publish & promote.That's OVER, with the cancelation.
Surely Fred wanted to sell it himself.BUT.Andrew Butcher a Newscorp spokesman said 'all copies have been destroyed" but objected to the request to assign the rights to Goldman."You don't own the rights to someone's book in PERPETUITY"

So would assume that O.J.owns the rights to the 6 chapters,he worked on with the ghostwriter.And the one Fenjves wrote alone.

jotun

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by jotun

*snip*

Even Goldigger's own lawyer Polock said on tv that NewsCorp ONLY had the right to publish & promote.That's OVER, with the cancelation.
Surely Fred wanted to sell it himself.

What a miserable person you must be that you feel the need to mock a man who had his young son murdered so viciously. Shame on you. I'd say if anyone worships the dollar, it's OJ. That's why Fred attempts to hit him in the pocket. imo

As for your nonsense that Fred wanted to sell it himself,that's pure B.S. made up by you. I suggest you stop making stuff up & stick with the truth. Or doesn't that suit your needs?

[martin II]

Originally Posted by jotun

Martin,
Even Goldigger's own lawyer Polock said on tv that NewsCorp ONLY had the right to publish & promote.That's OVER, with the cancelation.
Surely Fred wanted to sell it himself.BUT.Andrew Butcher a Newscorp spokesman said 'all copies have been destroyed" but objected to the request to assign the rights to Goldman."You don't own the rights to someone's book in PERPETUITY"

So would assume that O.J.owns the rights to the 6 chapters,he worked on with the ghostwriter.And the one Fenjves wrote alone.

jotun

jotun

Either oj or his children's company may own the rights to the material if it is not owned by H Collins.thats interesting.

martin II

[martin II]

jotun
if this is true then maby oj's children's company may own the rights to the material in the book that was never published. imo
martin II

[martin II]

jotun

I don't think fred can touch any money received by oj's childrens company
paid by Regan imo
martin II

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by martin II

jotun

I don't think fred can touch any money received by oj's childrens company
paid by Regan imo
martin II

Are you studying law with W.A? I would venture to say that if the company was set up soley for fraudulent purposes, Fred can "touch it".

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by martin II

jotun

Either oj or his children's company may own the rights to the material if it is not owned by H Collins.thats interesting.

martin II

Who said it wasn't owned by Harper Collins? You read OJnut's post based on nothing but "assumption" and think it's the gospel?

[limakey]

Martin,

IMO, I think the Goldmans' know if the judgement is paid, then he will no longer have the "control" he thinks he has in this matter. If you think about it, Fred not only wants to control Simpson's money, but he wants to control on how me makes the money. Goldman knows better then anyone that once the judgement is paid, he no longer has any legal right to even ask a question about Simpson's money.

IMO, if the money from book and the interview was given right to Goldman, he still would have either said that Simpson could have made more on the deal or that he would refuse to accept it because it was "blood money". Either way, IMO, Goldman does not that judgement paid off, IMO.

What I really would love to know is how much of the judgement has been paid to both families. What does "not much" mean in terms of the judgement?

Again, IMO, as long as the judgement goes unpaid, Ronald Goldman's name will still be in the media.

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by limakey

*snip*
IMO, if the money from book and the interview was given right to Goldman, he still would have either said that Simpson could have made more on the deal or that he would refuse to accept it because it was "blood money". Either way, IMO, Goldman does not that judgement paid off, IMO.

I see that you, like a few other posters here, have a rich fantasy life. You have now decided that Goldman doesn't want the judgement paid off? What a hoot!

[jotun]

Originally Posted by socaldiva

You have now decided that Goldman doesn't want the judgement paid off? What a hoot!

Ditto.
What a HOOT!!!!!

jotun

[limakey]

SoDiva and Jotun,

In your opinon, what does Fred Goldman gain by having the judgment the paid off?

Also, IMO, I have stated that I believe that Goldman's doesn't want the judgement paid in full, that does mean that he wouldn't mind getting 31 or 32 million dollars of a 33 million dollar judgement.

Mr. Goldman does not the public to forget about his son, his suits against Simpson keep his son's name in the media. If that suit is paid off, then what does he have? What other suits could he file?

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by jotun

Ditto.
What a HOOT!!!!!

jotun

Yes, based on your made up fantasy & Limakey's. What a hoot indeed!

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by limakey

*snip*
SoDiva and Jotun,

In your opinon, what does Fred Goldman gain by having the judgment the paid off?

Knowing that Orenthal hates to part with money & it's the only avenue he has for inflicting discomfort on his son's murderer?

[limakey]

2Late,

Finally, you get it! Going after Simpson's money is the only avenue he has to inflict "discomfort" on Simpson. Once that judgement is paid off, he has no other avenue. He no longer can use money as a weapon against Simpson.

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by limakey

2Late,

Finally, you get it! Going after Simpson's money is the only avenue he has to inflict "discomfort" on Simpson. Once that judgement is paid off, he has no other avenue. He no longer can use money as a weapon against Simpson.

I think you are confusing your posters here. No wonder you confuse the facts of the case

[limakey]

2Late,

Sorry about that!

However, SD, who I addressed the post to doesn't change my post.

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by limakey

2Late,

Sorry about that!

However, SD, who I addressed the post to doesn't change my post.

You addressed the post to 2Late (in error) not me & I don't know what you are talking about relative to it "not changing" your post. Goodnight

[limakey]

SD,

It was you that posted that the only avenue the Goldmans' have to cause discomfort to Simpson is through his wallet. I was just agreeing with you.

[socaldiva]

Originally Posted by limakey

SD,

It was you that posted that the only avenue the Goldmans' have to cause discomfort to Simpson is through his wallet. I was just agreeing with you.

Ok, thanks for clarifying. I was lost for a minute there

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally Posted by socaldiva

Who said it wasn't owned by Harper Collins? You read OJnut's post based on nothing but "assumption" and think it's the gospel?

Yeah, Diva, that's the NG's M.O. alright! They just all throw out this cr@p and then they just sit back and pat each other on their backs for job well done! No logic, no facts, no truth, no common sense, no nothing! Just shoot from the hip bullsh*t and blah blah blah, ad nauseum!

JMO and MOO!!