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Old 10-03-2006, 04:44 AM
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The Zodiac killer died Aug 26, 2006 in Olympia Wa.

The suspect that has been the focus of the zodiac investigation
since the case reopened in 2000, has passed away on August 26, 2006, at age 78, in Olympia Washington. His identity has never been made public until now, his name is "J.W. Tarrance." Here is the true identity of the Zodiac....
(http://thezodiackiller.digitalzones.com)

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Old 11-08-2006, 10:15 AM
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Hi Dennis,

Your information is very compelling, and it sickens me that squabbling and politics between law enforcement factions might have kept this man from being prosecuted while he was alive.

One question: Is his biological son still alive, and if so, do you fear there might be repercussions from him for your coming forward?

My prayers are with you, and I'm sorry that your mother had to live in fear and die so tragically. God bless you, and I hope you are given the opportunity to put this out there for all to see.
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Your information is very compelling, and it sickens me that squabbling and politics between law enforcement factions might have kept this man from being prosecuted while he was alive.


My prayers are with you, and I'm sorry that your mother had to live in fear and die so tragically. God bless you, and I hope you are given the opportunity to put this out there for all to see. [/b]
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Dennis, I, too, am sorry about the fear and the death of your Mother because of political jealousy between law enforcement agencies.

Your information is, indeed, very compelling.

I think Bill Kurtis (A&E COLD CASE FILES), would be very interested in this case.

Contact him at the A&E Cold Case Web Site.

Again, I am very sorry for your loss of your Mother.
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Old 01-24-2007, 04:37 PM
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This Zodiac case to me is so intriguing, freaky/spooky even. Dennis I really like your website with all the pics and those recorded phone calls are amazing. To my ears I hear Jack confess, maybe that's just me but I do. What has happened to Jacks possessions now that he is dead, where are they, do you have any? What happened to the place where he lived, have you been there after his death? Did you ever go and meet him to have that supposed talk about what he did? Do you have any evidence to support the notion that Jack was also the Texarcanna phantom killer? Sorry for all the questions Dennis, it's just this case is so amazing to me. I wonder how long it takes till your "buddy" Ed gets on here and starts his crap, anyways, look forwards to your posts.
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Diamond D,

Thank you for your positive feedback, and I appreciate you taking the time and looking at the evidence. As far as the Texarcana murders I have no proof that Jack committed those crimes. Jack told me himself that he was reasponsible for the Texarcana murders, and he almost got caught but managed to escape by jumping onto a moving train. Jack said he had to jump off of the train before it came to a stop, and when he jumped he landed in grassburs and gravel, he got cut up pretty bad. After he told me about the Texarcana murders I looked into them and there were alot of similarities to the zodiac crimes. All the murders in Texarcana were on Saturday, and that is payday according to Jack. Jack's father would keep track of everything Jack did wrong during the week, and on Saturday he would get paddled, it was payday.
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Thank you for your positive feedback, and I appreciate you taking the time and looking at the evidence. As far as the Texarcana murders I have no proof that Jack committed those crimes. Jack told me himself that he was reasponsible for the Texarcana murders, and he almost got caught but managed to escape by jumping onto a moving train. Jack said he had to jump off of the train before it came to a stop, and when he jumped he landed in grassburs and gravel, he got cut up pretty bad. After he told me about the Texarcana murders I looked into them and there were alot of similarities to the zodiac crimes. All the murders in Texarcana were on Saturday, and that is payday according to Jack. Jack's father would keep track of everything Jack did wrong during the week, and on Saturday he would get paddled, it was payday.
That sounds crazy, no wonder Jack turned out a bit loopy. Dennis the recording on your website are amazing, quite freaky actually. Did you actually go and meet with Jack after those recordings where made, what I want to know is, did Jack ever say to you in plain english that he was the Zodiac killer. I believe he admitted it on your recorded conversations in a round about kind of way, but did he ever say to you "yes Dennis, I am the Zodiac killer"...?
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I think Dennis's info about Jack is very persuasive. When I read all his info about Jack, it made perfect sense. It is not at all hard for me to believe that Jack was the Zodiac killer. I just wondered if Jack had the knowledge of language codes(I think I asked this before, somewhere), and if he had been in military? The Zociac, seemed to have a great deal of knowledge when it comes to codes. AND the investigators said they believed him to be a military man(inn his background).
Those cyphers (codes) that Z sent, I can't make heads nor tails of them. All those symbols somehow mean something, one or 2 of them where cracked I believe, I have no idea how they could crack them. Either a codes specialist or an insane person would be able to make those up. Dennis, do you have any insight on the codes and how Z (Jack) would be able to create them.
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i have e mailed you waiting for a response to some questions. i look back at some of the replys and i see you say you hope jack dna doesnt mean he is the zodiac the only problem i have with this. he stilled killed your mom isnt that enough never to forgive him lisen i believe your story and the evidence is on point to end this case and bring families that have lost loves some settlement in there lives .i have reached out to a friend that has ties with ae and sent him your web page . like i said before ive been following serial killer for a long time and that killer in nyc that a parking ticket that got him caught . was son of sam david b i have followed alot of big cases even the copycat zodiac in nyc that was caught so if you can please get back to me god bless you and your family i cant imagine or even begin how hard this has been
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Link's broken or maybe just overloaded with traffic

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The link is working for me.

Very interesting the resemblance to the sketches. And the dates, times and places. Any chance of having a DNA match done?
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Old 02-24-2007, 05:42 PM
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tonight on americas feb 24th 9pm eastern time the zodiac case and interviews with the stars of new movie
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America's Most Wanted

Jack Tarrance will be featured on America's Most Wanted this evening. They claim that Jack has been eliminated as a suspect, yet they do not explain how he was eliminated. I am sure they got this info from the San Francisco P.D. I also believe that there is also a posibility that the folks that produced the new zodiac movie might have something to do with Jack's so called "elimination" I ask, when, and how, was Jack eliminated? This is news to me......I have a suprise for the glory seeking SFPD that will be released with my book on March 6...........Dennis Kaufman

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did you see americas most wanted on feb 24th they did show your site and jack . as suspects aND MENTIONED YOU DENNIS.they say all your evidence is circumstantial how they see that beyond me its seems two or three people believe that larry cain may be him also but bye what you have shown . is really undeinable to me anyway thou it still seems to me that zodiac did not have a southern kind of way when he talked .like jack has a very strong one did you ever go to someone maybe would be able to compare jacks hjand writting to zodiac that guy alan a the writting specilist says couldnt not be zodiac hand writting was way way off AND WERE DO I GET A COPY OF THIS BOOK ANY BOOK STORE BARNES AND NOBLE WHATS THE NAME OF THE BOOK BUT IF YOU CAN TRULEY EVER PROVE THAT JACK IS THE ZODIAC YOUR BOOK would make triple the money and movies but most of all piece of mind for you and the familys that this terrible evil that they have been living with talk to you soon
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Jack Tarrance will be featured on America's Most Wanted this evening. They claim that Jack has been eliminated as a suspect, yet they do not explain how he was eliminated. I am sure they got this info from the San Francisco P.D. I also believe that there is also a posibility that the folks that produced the new zodiac movie might have something to do with Jack's so called "elimination" I ask, when, and how, was Jack eliminated? This is news to me......I have a suprise for the glory seeking SFPD that will be released with my book on March 6...........Dennis Kaufman

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NOT AGAIN, I always miss the shows that feature Zodiac, I can't believe it. I have never seen a show when the Zodiac is featured, needless to say I'm choked. Is there anyway I can see the show online still? Anyways, I have looked into and read pretty much everything that is available on the web as far as Jack Tarrance being a suspect is concerned. Dennis does a great job of putting it all together on his site. To my non expert eyes I see very convincing proof that Jack almost beyond reasonable doubt is Zodiac, but something is wrong. There is a reason why the FBI and SFPD have dismissed Jack as a suspect so readily, I can't put my finger on it just quite yet but something is ascue (not right). Some say it is because of various glory hungry people are putting up road blocks so other agencies can't solve it before them, others say it's because of the politics between the various departments, personally I don't buy either arguements, there is another reason.
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Interesting evidence and theories! I look forward to seeing more. http://www.amw.com/features/feature_...il.cfm?id=1542
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I plan on seeing the new movie, I'd be interested to hear any review on it. Dennis if you happen to see it, I'd like to hear your opinion it it as well.
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I saw the new Zodiac movie last Friday night. Here's what I thought about it:

1. It is not really "scary". I thought it was more of a drama. In fact several teenagers were complaining because they said it wasn't scary at all.

2. It is not horribly gruesome. Yes, it depicted the violence, but without turning into a gore fest. I thought it was tastefully done for the most part.

3. It is about one author's theory and why he thinks one particular suspect is the Zodiac. I don't want to spoil the movie if anyone wants to go.

4. I was a little disappointed it didn't delve into more suspects and more theories. But the evidence it portrayed was interesting.

5. I think they presented the "facts" that supported their theory. And briefly touched upon the others.

6. I think it was worth the money it cost to go to the theater and see it. Even though I disagree with the writers.

7. The movie lasted for approx. 2 hours and 50 minutes, but I was engrossed enough that it didn't seem that long. I also wouldn't get up to get a refill on my drink because I was afraid I would miss something.
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I'm really interested in this man as a suspect, but the handwriting analysis threw me a bit. He makes his lower case "A"s the same way I do, but the Zodiac letters show them written the way most people write them. The writing is similar and I'm not giving up on Jack as the possible killer. Thanks for posting this.
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:44 AM
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Thanks for the review, I kind figured it was mostly about the authors suspect, which is a little dissapointing, I was hoping for a more non bias interpretation. Personally I consider Jack the overwhelming number 1 suspect, I'd love to see a movie biased towards him being the Zodiac, anyways, I'll wait for DVD to come out on this one ...
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Movie

Zodiac is a great movie and one of the best true crime movies ever made. Having said that, it is not a ringing endorsement of the truth in this case. For the most part, the movie focuses on Arthur Leigh Allen as Zodiac. Anyone who considers themselves a serious Zodiac case researcher knows that Allen was not Zodiac. You have to go where the evidence takes you and all of the significant evidentiary items clear Allen as a suspect:

1) Allen passed a polygraph exam.

2) Two handwriting experts stated that Allen was not the author of the Zodiac letters.

3) Bloody prints found in Paul Stine's cab and several prints of value found on Zodiac letters do not match Allen's print exemplars.

4) A partial DNA profile obtained in 2002, does not match Allen's DNA profile.

Despite all of this evidence, Robert Graysmith has turned a blind eye for the sake of profit. Zodiac director, David Fincher, has done the same. Allen was not the Zodiac killer and it appears that law enforcement never came close to catching Zodiac.

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I have the book that names Allen as the killer and I, too, wasn't convinced. I haven't seen the movie and am disappointed to hear that they used him as inspiration. There was a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing to him, but I still don't believe he was the Zodiac.
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Evidence

There is not a single piece of hard evidence that links Arthur Leigh Allen to the Zodiac murders. Graysmith has not allowed the evidence to be his guide in this case. At best, he has become completely tunnel-visioned and at worst, he is an investigative vulture who has chosen the almighty dollar over the truth.

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Zodiac is a great movie and one of the best true crime movies ever made. Having said that, it is not a ringing endorsement of the truth in this case. For the most part, the movie focuses on Arthur Leigh Allen as Zodiac. Anyone who considers themselves a serious Zodiac case researcher knows that Allen was not Zodiac. You have to go where the evidence takes you and all of the significant evidentiary items clear Allen as a suspect:

1) Allen passed a polygraph exam.

2) Two handwriting experts stated that Allen was not the author of the Zodiac letters.

3) Bloody prints found in Paul Stine's cab and several prints of value found on Zodiac letters do not match Allen's print exemplars.

4) A partial DNA profile obtained in 2002, does not match Allen's DNA profile.

Despite all of this evidence, Robert Graysmith has turned a blind eye for the sake of profit. Zodiac director, David Fincher, has done the same. Allen was not the Zodiac killer and it appears that law enforcement never came close to catching Zodiac.

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I agree completely, I was so hoping that this current movie would have focused on both Arthur Allen and Jack, do like a compare and contrast style of film, leave it up to the viewer to decide, don't shove a suspect down the audiences thoats when clearly is not Zodiac when pure evidence is looked at. I just don't understand why the FBI or whoever will not look at suspect Jack as hard and indepth as they did Arthur Allen, at this point in time, what does anyone have to loose?
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Diamond D: Notice how they use 4 different actors to play Zodiac during his murder spree, yet when it came time to wrap up the movie, Fincher buys Graysmith's fairy tales about Allen hook, line, and sinker. My guess is that Fincher told Warner Bros executives that a movie without a definitive boogie man can work by simply playing up several scenes (e.g., initial questioning of Allen at his workplace, brief meeting between Graysmith and Allen at the hardware store) for dramatic effect. Fincher used mood over content to bring forth the idea that Zodiac's identity was known, but that the law couldn't touch him.

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Now available "The Man Behind the Mask"

For anyone interested my book "The Man Behind the Mask" is now available to order. With the book you also get a cd that contains conversations I had with law enforcement, family members, and Jack Tarrance himself. If there is any doubt about Jack Tarrance being the Zodiac Killer, there won't be after you listen to this cd, and the cd might not be available very long so get it while you can.........http://thezodiackiller.digitalzones.com
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Diamond D: Notice how they use 4 different actors to play Zodiac during his murder spree, yet when it came time to wrap up the movie, Fincher buys Graysmith's fairy tales about Allen hook, line, and sinker. My guess is that Fincher told Warner Bros executives that a movie without a definitive boogie man can work by simply playing up several scenes (e.g., initial questioning of Allen at his workplace, brief meeting between Graysmith and Allen at the hardware store) for dramatic effect. Fincher used mood over content to bring forth the idea that Zodiac's identity was known, but that the law couldn't touch him.

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Yes there definitely is that sense of "we know who he is but we just can't touch him." Allen on my list has been crossed off long ago.
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Dennis I just purchased your book and CD combo, I'll give a critique when I receive it.
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I am still waiting to receive your book, do you know if it has been sent out yet?
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I'm curious; did you ever receive (and read) the book and CD?
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I have still not heard an absolute refutation by Kaufman regarding the issue of the shirt for sale, nor have I recieved a reply regarding the audio quality of the CD that he is selling.
I must state that I am disconcerted by the premise, though, of a man who would sell this information on an apparently homemade CD (??) rather than, if he believed it to be true, and could prove it, posting it in a more public forum, such as sending it to a major newspaper, etc.
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After having asked kaufman, via email, about specific details not lighted on his site, and after considering that it is likely that he's just trying to get a few extra bucks in his wallet by selling a compelling story, I think that he is a fraud. I'll admit in advance that I might be wrong. There is something irking about his callous inclination to just sell the CD rather than make this info public in a forum where any interested can see it. Really, if I hadn't been poking around for Z info, I'd have never even heard of him.
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Interesting how Kaufman just vanished into the ether, isn't it? He stayed around just long enough apparently to drum up some business....then departed. I wonder if diamond d ever received this "book"??

He showed up on another true-crime forum to which I belong and tried the same stuff there. It didn't work and I think he vanished without a trace from that site too.

Creepy.

And if he isn't a fraud, he certainly does an excellent impersonation of one.

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The Book

Diamond D, did you receive the book that you purchased? If you did not, that's completely my fault -- not Dennis'. Although Dennis wrote the book, I am handling his orders. You'll note that the "Buy Now" button links to my PayPal account.

Please let me know if you received the book. If you did not, please accept my apologies... I'll get it to you right away.

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Pickled, this is in reply to your post stating that Dennis must be a fraud because he is selling his book/CD rather than posting it in a public forum. Dennis has a wealth of information, available for free to the public, on his web site. He wrote the book only because so many visitors to his site begged him to do so. And yes, he is charging a fee for the book to cover the cost of publication. By no means is he "trying to get a few bucks in his wallet" as you state. And believe me, he's not getting rich off the book. In fact, he hasn't broken even yet.

As to your question about the CD, yes it is homemade. It wasn't made in a recording studio. But you know, the fact that Dennis' book and CD are so raw make his story all the more compelling to me. Dennis is not a professional writer, nor is he in the recording business. He's a guy who found out that the man who raised him was the Zodiac. If you want some slick and polished publication, perhaps you'd better stick to Graysmith.
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Okay, but I was curious as to why he had seemed so evasive.
I'm actually too tired to care right now at any rate.
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Im curious to see how this all unfolds.
I've been such a lurker in this thread. lol
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Hi everyone, I have been away for awhile but I'm back, Yes I did receive the book and CD, I have read the book 2 times over now, my apologies to JoAnne for not replying, I had internet service provider issues and lost my email, nuff said, non the less my bad.
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The suspect that has been the focus of the zodiac investigation
since the case reopened in 2000, has passed away on August 26, 2006, at age 78, in Olympia Washington. His identity has never been made public until now, his name is "J.W. Tarrance." Here is the true identity of the Zodiac....
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Since I met you in 2002 and heard the tape in person that was not clear at all I see you have named your step dad the Zodiac. Did Jack actually give you a written confession? Did Jack give you anything that the Zodiac took as a trophy say like a piece of Stines shirt? Was he responsible for the disppearance of Donna Lass and if so where is Donna? Was he responsible for killing Cherrie Jo Bates in Riverside? So many questions with no answers.
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There is not a single piece of hard evidence that links Arthur Leigh Allen to the Zodiac murders. Graysmith has not allowed the evidence to be his guide in this case. At best, he has become completely tunnel-visioned and at worst, he is an investigative vulture who has chosen the almighty dollar over the truth.

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I agree with you completely. Authur Allen has taken LDT's and passed. His DNA did not match at all. I think Graysmith made money off of this case. I guess he thought he had all the inside information when he worked for the Chronicle at the time Zodiac made his appearance. Now that I know the movie is all about Allen then I will not be wasting my money to see it.
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