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09-21-2006, 05:51 AM
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Nicole's letter to Cora
Hi all,
Long time no see. I have been busy and have no time to rehash old arguments. I have discovered that Mario is in possesion of a previously unreleased letter from Nicole to Cora. To see the handwritten letter and transcript of the contents go to Mario's Myspace link below. You will need to be a Myspace member to see the handwritten originals, but you can see the transcript without being a member.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...2-704871986699
I have not read anything here in quite a while. Is there anything new being discussed?
Wukong
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09-21-2006, 01:32 PM
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Re: Nicole's letter to Cora
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Originally posted by Wukong
Hi all,
Long time no see. I have been busy and have no time to rehash old arguments. I have discovered that Mario is in possesion of a previously unreleased letter from Nicole to Cora. To see the handwritten letter and transcript of the contents go to Mario's Myspace link below. You will need to be a Myspace member to see the handwritten originals, but you can see the transcript without being a member.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...2-704871986699
I have not read anything here in quite a while. Is there anything new being discussed?
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Brian, good to see you back. I too saw Mario's blog when he wrote it and checked out the handwritten copies. I've been waiting to see how long it will be before Garrison's followers learn of it and will use the letters to find more proof that Fuhrman was the killer. Funny.
Everything's the same here. A couple of new faces with the same old arguments based on the same old false and misinformation. It seems even the new posters refuse to learn the huge amount of information that became known in the depositions and the new evidence that was presented in the civil trial. All they want to do is argue that the criminal trial jury verdict was correct.
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09-23-2006, 08:04 PM
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Wow.....
I am not sure about this letter ....
but the handwritting does look seem to look like Nicoles
very loopy.
the letter "I" seems to stand out to me...
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http://www.handwriting.org/images/samples/nicole.htm
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09-24-2006, 04:17 PM
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Re: Wow.....
as they say consider the source.
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09-24-2006, 07:41 PM
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Re: Wow.....
gost girl
this is the second letter i have read in this case where nicole was asking oj to give her another chance. yet some say she dumped him. imo
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09-24-2006, 10:41 PM
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Martin,
If this letter is real, then it proves what I have been saying along about Paula and OJ's and Nicole's relationship.
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09-25-2006, 07:36 AM
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Martin,
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If this letter is real, then it proves what I have been saying along about Paula and OJ's and Nicole's relationship.
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IF this letter is real, it seems that nicole is saying that she was at least partyl to blame for some of the problems she and oj had in their relationship. the printed version offered by this guy MARIO
(nicole to cora) shows that nicole was worried about oj's relationship with Paula.(calling her skinny etc)imo
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09-27-2006, 01:20 PM
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Hi Wukong!
If this is real then why wasn't it in the trial? How in the world did Mario get his hands on it? I can't look at myspace at work...dangit. But, I'll check it out tonight. I did read what Goatgirl posted on Iago. I don't know why she would write Cora a note though.
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09-27-2006, 04:08 PM
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Hi Wukong!
If this is real then why wasn't it in the trial? How in the world did Mario get his hands on it? I can't look at myspace at work...dangit. But, I'll check it out tonight. I did read what Goatgirl posted on Iago. I don't know why she would write Cora a note though.
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hi tazzy
if you mean why would nicole write cora a note, i am wondering the same thing. cora lived close by and they talked on the phone
frequently.imo
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09-27-2006, 08:33 PM
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Better in a letter.....
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hi tazzy
if you mean why would nicole write cora a note, i am wondering the same thing. cora lived close by and they talked on the phone
frequently.imo
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 I know some ppl find writting therapeutic, maybe Nicole liked to write letters?
Nicole wrote simpson a few notes, like the one below
"O.J I think I have to put this all in a letter. A lot of years ago I used to do much better in a letter, I'm gonna try it again now"
but I have no clue if Nicole wrote the letter Mario has, an expert would have to confirm that!
http://www.courttv.com/casefiles/sim...oleletter.html
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09-27-2006, 10:02 PM
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I don't know who gave Mario the letter, but he told me it was from a very reliable source whom he cannot disclose. As for it's autenticity, I am no handwriting expert but compared to other known samples of her handwriting it sure looks like she wrote it judging by the handwriting itself and the style with which it was written.
I am not sure which letter Martin read, but judging from his comments it doesn't seem like the same letter I read. I didn't see where Nicole was asking OJ for another chance and I also missed where she said she was partly to balme. I guess I have to consider the source.
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09-27-2006, 10:17 PM
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Contents of Nicole's letter
Here are the contents of the letter for reference.
"Cora,
Sorry I had to get off so fast the other night. O.J. brought the kids home early and I wanted to talk to him about the bracelet. Remember I told you I gave it back to him - well, He gave it to that b*tch he's been seeing!!! Can you believe it!! He's a piece of work, huh?
I don't know why I should even give a sh*t what he does - but the truth is I do! Iv'e seen her and she's not so hot - skinny and big lips. He says she's a nice girl and I wish him well, but it still bugs me. Isn't that strange. I still have that "power" over him though - like when I moved in last year. He took me right back in a second. He would again too - I know it. We just have each other in the blood I guess.
I've told you before, it's the sex- always was, always will be. he just gets too rough, that's all. It used to be a turn - on - now I'm
black and blue for days. Not only that we make so much noise I'm afraid the kids will hear, oh well. He gets angry when I say no but I'm really conflicted - sometimes I want in - sometimes I want out - you know what I've been going through. Agony.
You know Faye - she hates him - but secretly I think she's really "hot" for O.J. So the tension when he stops buy is awful. He's on me, she's on me - everybody's on me. It's a nightmare. I'm always tired. Stress I guess. All wound up. I hate having someone around all the times. So many people. I don't even know, or like for that matter coming and going - So, if I seem edgy Cora I'm only concerned about the kids.
Faye hangs with a crowd that frankly scares me. She's really a nice person but very addictive. I've had my flings - see what this lifestyle did to Denise. The children are too important. I can't give O.J. any excuses (like he's perfect..) but he's right too. He doesn't like her for a reason. he says she's a lousy mother - maybe, but she's got problems - that why I try to help.
Oh well, see you Tues. don't say anything to you know - who.
We'll take it one day at a time.
Nicole"
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09-27-2006, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wukong
I don't know who gave Mario the letter, but he told me it was from a very reliable source whom he cannot disclose. As for it's autenticity, I am no handwriting expert but compared to other known samples of her handwriting it sure looks like she wrote it judging by the handwriting itself and the style with which it was written.
I am not sure which letter Martin read, but judging from his comments it doesn't seem like the same letter I read. I didn't see where Nicole was asking OJ for another chance and I also missed where she said she was partly to balme. I guess I have to consider the source.
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wukong
see the note from goat girl.
Mario pops up with a lot of accusations but never any proof of what he 'KNOWS' to be fact. He seems to be a "sources said person" or a junior high student passing along gossip.imo
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09-27-2006, 10:26 PM
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wukong
can you get your guy mario to tell us the date of this letter to Cora? at least.
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09-27-2006, 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by martin II
wukong
can you get your guy mario to tell us the date of this letter to Cora? at least.
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I asked, he doesn't know. I'm not sure why you're trashing the possibility this letter cam from Nicole's hand since it seems, in part, to support the NG position??
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09-27-2006, 11:16 PM
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Wukong,
I hope all is well with you and your family.
IMO, this letter, if it is true makes one thing obvious, that Nicole and OJ still played the break up to make up game. I have no doubt they loved each other very much, but I don't think Nicole could ever truly trust him---and I don't blame her for that.
What I find every interesting is Nicole's comments about Faye. I wonder if Faye knew about this letter and if she did, when did she know about it?
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09-27-2006, 11:45 PM
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Limakey,
Hi! All is well with me, thanks for asking. I've got two daughters getting married before the end of the year, 15 new products I'm trying to get to production and designing a house I'm building here in Taiwan. I'm a little busy..LOL! How are you and Bigfoot doing?
I agree with your assessment of the letter, if it is in fact genuine. If it is really from Nicole, which I have no reason to doubt, it certainly shows her state of mind about a few things going on in her life. I don't see anything earth shattering in the letter that leads us to any resolution on the BIG question of OJ's guilt or innocence (I'm not talking about judgements made in court, but whether he is truly responsible for the murders). So it seems the fighting and bickering over the minutae of this case continues. I have no time right now to rejoin the fray and frankly am quite tired of repeating the same arguments over and over. There is a quote from one of my favorite people of all time that sums this up:
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.¡¨ Albert Einstein
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09-28-2006, 07:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by limakey
Wukong,
I hope all is well with you and your family.
IMO, this letter, if it is true makes one thing obvious, that Nicole and OJ still played the break up to make up game. I have no doubt they loved each other very much, but I don't think Nicole could ever truly trust him---and I don't blame her for that.
What I find every interesting is Nicole's comments about Faye. I wonder if Faye knew about this letter and if she did, when did she know about it?
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when was this letter written IF by nicole?
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09-28-2006, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wukong
I asked, he doesn't know. I'm not sure why you're trashing the possibility this letter cam from Nicole's hand since it seems, in part, to support the NG position??
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WUKONG
Mario makes many charges with no proof of any. good reason to
quesiton his latest piece of evidence. imo
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09-28-2006, 07:20 AM
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wukong
when was this letter written IF by nicole?
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Asked and answered. Read above.
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09-28-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by martin II
hi tazzy
if you mean why would nicole write cora a note, i am wondering the same thing. cora lived close by and they talked on the phone
frequently.imo
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Hi Martin,
Yes, that is what I meant. I am not saying that the note is authentic or not. I do find it very odd that she would write her a note. I understand why she would write OJ a note. But, not Cora. She could call her very easily. They saw each other frequently. It's just bizarre.
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09-28-2006, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wukong
Limakey,
Hi! All is well with me, thanks for asking. I've got two daughters getting married before the end of the year, 15 new products I'm trying to get to production and designing a house I'm building here in Taiwan. I'm a little busy..LOL! How are you and Bigfoot doing?
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Wukong, so glad to see you back and posting again. I thought that maybe you had given up on the OJ Board. My, my ~ yes you are one busy guy. Hang in there because remember ~ when the "going gets tough, the tough go shopping" ~ oops, wrong gender, sorry!
 Your Pal 2L8!
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09-28-2006, 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by tazzybaby
Hi Martin,
Yes, that is what I meant. I am not saying that the note is authentic or not. I do find it very odd that she would write her a note. I understand why she would write OJ a note. But, not Cora. She could call her very easily. They saw each other frequently. It's just bizarre.
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tazzy
as usual mario fails to send facts along with these pieces of 'EVIDENCE' that he gives to wukong. At least he did not toss out his tease by saying he will tell us at a later time. hahaha
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09-28-2006, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by martin II
tazzy
as usual mario fails to send facts along with these pieces of 'EVIDENCE' that he gives to wukong. At least he did not toss out his tease by saying he will tell us at a later time. hahaha
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Hi Martin,
I believe Mario. He puts everything that he has out in the open for us to see. I can't verify for myself. And, he didn't see Nicole write the note. He can only go by what the person that gave it to him says. Whether it's real or not, I still find it very odd that she would write it.
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09-28-2006, 05:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by tazzybaby
Hi Martin,
I believe Mario. He puts everything that he has out in the open for us to see. I can't verify for myself. And, he didn't see Nicole write the note. He can only go by what the person that gave it to him says. Whether it's real or not, I still find it very odd that she would write it.
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tazzy
most people require proof when these stories pop up.
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09-28-2006, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by martin II
tazzy
most people require proof when these stories pop up.
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Or he can do like you do: "It's been said....."
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09-28-2006, 07:24 PM
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I'm sure if Mario said that Dick Wagner gave him the letter, Martin would believe it then.
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09-28-2006, 07:24 PM
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wukong
when was this letter written IF by nicole?
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Hi Martin
I would guess this letter was written after May 19
as Oj stated during his interrogation w/ the police on June 13,
OJ I may have given her the earrings. No, the bracelet,
May 19th. When was Mother's Day?
VA Mother's Day was around that...
OJ No, it was probably her birthday, yes.
VA And did she return it the same day?
OJ Oh, no, she...I'm in a funny place here on this, all
right? She returned it -- both of them -- three weeks
ago or so, because when I say I'm in a funny place on this
it was because I gave it to my girlfriend and told her it
was for her, and that was three weeks ago. I told her I
bought it for her. You know? What am I going to do with
it?
source:
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj.../oj-stmnt.html
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09-28-2006, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
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I'm sure if Mario said that Dick Wagner gave him the letter, Martin would believe it then.
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not so.
there was a time that i respected some of your post even with all of their biases. but you continue to post these unproven accusations made by your loco buddy mario it makes me wonder if you and mario are one and the same.imo
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09-28-2006, 08:08 PM
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Hi Martin,
I believe Mario. He puts everything that he has out in the open for us to see. I can't verify for myself. And, he didn't see Nicole write the note. He can only go by what the person that gave it to him says. Whether it's real or not, I still find it very odd that she would write it.
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tazzy
ok
but the problem for me is that no one here knows IF any one gave mario this note. Mario seems to believe that people must believe these unproven facts that he offers. he does not even give a hint of the source of his info.
is it that he is afraid that cora will beat him as he claims the cops did?
if you posted some NOTE making accusation on this board the first thing FBG or others would do is demand proof(if they dissagreed with the contents of the note) imo
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09-28-2006, 08:09 PM
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Or he can do like you do: "It's been said....."
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then do you believe that this note was written by nicole?
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09-28-2006, 08:49 PM
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fbg
then do you believe that this note was written by nicole?
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Haven't thought about it. I do, however, believe Nicole's diary (I don't have to 'guess' if it's her handwriting), the notes from the defense psychologist that interviewed Orenthal and determined he fit the profile of a batterer and Nicole fit the profile of a battered spouse, and the notes from the battered women's shelter where Nicole said she was afraid of Orenthal and what he was capable of doing to her.
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09-28-2006, 10:56 PM
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Martin,
IMO, I don't think it should surprise anyone that information and in some cases evidence is "discovered" but the source of it remains a "mystery".
I can truly understand why many people refuse to get involved because it may put themselves or their families in harm's way. However, they still feel the need to do the "right" and do so, but not in a conventional manner. IMO.
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09-29-2006, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
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why you're trashing the possibility this letter cam from Nicole's hand since it seems, in part, to support the NG position??
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All
Sure does.The main part.The point being FEAR.
Nicole:
'I hate having someone around all the times.So many people.I don't even know,or like for that matter coming and going.Faye hangs out with A CROWD THAT FRANKLY SCARES ME.'
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All
Sure does.The main part.The point being FEAR.
Nicole:
'I hate having someone around all the times.So many people.I don't even know,or like for that matter coming and going.Faye hangs out with A CROWD THAT FRANKLY SCARES ME.'
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Why would you take two sentences from different paragraphs and string them together to make it appear as though it is a complete thought? Very manipulative.
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09-30-2006, 01:08 PM
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Who ever wrote this note did want to show that Nicole and Cora
were much closer than some g's here want to admit.
fbg has pointed that Nicole was angry with Cora for asking her to lie about her relationship with some man and in some was this meant that they were not close.
but then this note shows nicole telling cora about the details of her sex activities with oj. seems to me that shows a special closeness.imo
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09-30-2006, 07:40 PM
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Wukong,
*Snipped*
What I find every interesting is Nicole's comments about Faye. I wonder if Faye knew about this letter and if she did, when did she know about it?
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Limakey,
The question I have is did, the D.A. and Petrocelli know about this letter during the trials (Criminal & Civil).. If so, when did they know, if it was during the trial, this proves evidence to exonerate OJ was deliberately kept from the public...
as in the Brett Cantor case!
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09-30-2006, 08:45 PM
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Netta,
In order for this letter to help exonerate OJ, the fantasy of a drug hit would have to be proven. Not even the Defense wanted to go there because they knew it was not the case. The defense threw out this theory, along with many others, to attempt to draw attention away from the fact that OJ killed two people. Brett Cantor's murder had nothing to do with this case, just ask his family.
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09-30-2006, 09:34 PM
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Re: Contents of Nicole's letter
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"Cora,
I hate having someone around all the times. So many people. I don't even know, or like for that matter coming and going -
Faye hangs with a crowd that frankly scares me.
Nicole"
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O.J."I have no doubt, the answer to these murders lies in the world of Faye Resnick."
There it IS!!! In the words of Nicole.This "world" Faye brought into Nicole's home."So many people I don't even know or like coming and going.
Faye hangs with a crowd that frankly scares me."
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09-30-2006, 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by nettathirty
Limakey,
The question I have is did, the D.A. and Petrocelli know about this letter during the trials (Criminal & Civil).. If so, when did they know, if it was during the trial, this proves evidence to exonerate OJ was deliberately kept from the public...
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Sure they did.All the evidence that exonerates O.J. was kept out of the trials.
During the money trial.Baker wanted to call Cora to testify but for some reason didn't.Think, tho not sure, to tell things she knew about Nicole.The judge wouldn't allow it.Also A.C.wasn't allowed by the judge to tell anything against Nicole or anything favorable to O.J.Maybe bobaugust can find the tanscript for us.
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