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Karla Homolka Victim of abusive husband or psychopathic killer? Either way, she's been released and is NOW A MOTHER

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Old 07-26-2006, 10:52 AM
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Flamming Mad Karla Resurfaced



Global reporter tracks down Karla Homolka
Published: Tuesday, July 25, 2006
MONTREAL -- Karla Homolka has resurfaced.

The notorious sex killer has not been seen in public since last summer, when a Toronto Sun reporter found her working in a hardware store in Longueuil.

But her brief spell out of the spotlight is over.

As she walked out of her east-end apartment just after 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, Homolka was greeted by a Global television reporter who has been keeping tabs on her since Christmas.


"She rolled her eyes, turned around and put sunglasses on," said Domenic Fazioli, who has covered crime and courts for five years.

As she headed toward a bus stop that would take her to the métro, Homolka remained silent when Fazioli told her several residents in her neighbourhood are alarmed that she is living there.

"Karla’s neighbours know who she is, they know where she lives, and most of the people who live there are young families," he said. "They are scared and they want her to move."

When he asked Homolka how the last year in Montreal has been for her, Homolka replied: "I have nothing to say."

Homolka was dressed in brown pants and a white top. Her blond hair was tied back and she carried a beige suede purse.

She eventually jumped on to a bus and disappeared into the métro.

Homolka is unemployed and lives by herself in a four-unit apartment block in the east end with her dog, Fazioli said.

He wouldn’t divulge the neighbourhood, saying Global’s lawyer has instructed him not to.

Fazioli acknowledged being a bit nervous just prior to speaking with Homolka, who served a 12-year sentence for manslaughter for her part in the sex slayings of two Ontario teenagers, as well as her sister Tammy, 15.

"It was exciting and nerve-racking at the same time," he said, conceding it was the biggest scoop of his career.

Fazioli said he received a tip around Christmastime, directing him to Homolka’s apartment. He defended his decision to approach Homolka yesterday, saying "her neighbours are nervous about having her around."

"She looked visibly upset, but we weren’t rude with her. We weren’t harassing her. She was very professional."

A mother of three children told Global that Homolka "has done a lot of bad things to a lot of children and it’s better if she wasn’t in our neighbourhood."

Fazioli said he expects Homolka will have to move to another neighbourhood now that a journalist knows where she lives.

Alexandra Henderson, Global’s assistant news director, said Canadians are still fascinated by Homolka and said it is intriguing how she can disappear for lengthy periods despite her high public profile.

Homolka’s lawyer, Sylvie Bordelais, refused to comment on the incident Tuesday.

Last month, a Quebec Superior Court judge barred Homolka from legally changing her name to Emily Chiara Tremblay.

In December, the Quebec Court of Appeal removed 14 restrictions that had been placed on Homolka after her release from prison last summer.

Homolka was freed in July after completing her sentence for the killings of schoolgirls Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy. Her former husband, Paul Bernardo, is serving a life sentence for the killings.

© Montreal Gazette 2006
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:57 AM
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She is an evil, evil woman who needs to be locked up for the rest of her life!
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:04 PM
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Hi all

Here is another update on life after murders & prison for Karla...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...Canada&s_name=

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Old 07-27-2006, 06:21 AM
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who cares?

The only news article most Canadians want to see is "Karla Homolka found with a knife through her brain!!!"
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:56 PM
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Karla is obviously one of the worst & i have read about the majority.It would seem she has no conscious beyond herself.She clearly is selfcentered to the ultimet extreme.She went to any lengths to achieve her end goals,whether it be to make her x-husband happy,so he would make her happy.It is difficult to put in words,her lack of any good human emotions.She definately should not be free ,as her victims are gone forever,so should she.
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Old 07-27-2006, 02:12 PM
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The only news article most Canadians want to see is "Karla Homolka found with a knife through her brain!!!"
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Karla is obviously one of the worst & i have read about the majority.It would seem she has no conscious beyond herself.She clearly is selfcentered to the ultimet extreme.She went to any lengths to achieve her end goals,whether it be to make her x-husband happy,so he would make her happy.It is difficult to put in words,her lack of any good human emotions.She definately should not be free ,as her victims are gone forever,so should she.
It's thanks to the Canadian Government for giving Karla her "sweetheart deal" which has allowed her to be free for what she did after only 12 years. A Poster has said that the Canadian Government has made changes to make sure that their big "mistake" is never repeated. Yeah, like that is supposed to give some sort of consolation to the French's and the Mahaffy's. It's a little too late if you ask me!

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Re: who cares... I do!

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The only news article most Canadians want to see is "Karla Homolka found with a knife through her brain!!!"
yikes,

I am going to stick w/ karma myself!

"what goes around comes around"

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Old 07-28-2006, 08:08 AM
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I have just read the 28 pages in "Good News"Debbie Mahaffy.Quite interesting.Where to begin would be an understatement.I have been a victim of DV & know someone like Karla,although this person never murdered or sexually abused.This person is so controlling,manipulating,self-absorbed,ect,she once told me she tries to be nice.I thought to myself,normal people should not have to try to be nice.Unless Karla wants to change & get the right professional help,she will always be a threat to society.She will use & abuse to achieve her goals,as long as she is allowed to.MPO?!???!!!
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:22 AM
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I just wanted to say that I think that Karla Homolka should be left alone. I know that the media say they have a public duty to keep an eye on her, and I have no problem if that's as far as it goes. But I don't trust the media to use discretion in that endeavor. I'm afraid they'll hound her and take photos of her in the hope of making a profit. That won't do anybody any good, and it might even result in more tragedy.
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Karla should never be left alone....

If Karla was involved in fraud or robbed a bank ( to use a couple of examples) then the surface wounds would heal with little scarring. The deep slashes that Karla carved into the flesh of society will never heal. The scars will always be a reminder of the tragedy.

Karla did not rob a bank or involve herself in fraud. Karla tortured then ended the lives of three young people. She did not do it once but three times.

There are times when a person under a great amount of stress will snap and cause great injury or death to another person. Usually, the victim did something at the wrong time and put the offender at the breaking point. That person generally has a good level of remorse.....Karla is not placed in that category. She killed her sister. That should have been enough for her to end her ways. But, she continued and killed two others. A long prison term does not help a person, it makes him/her worse. Karla is damaged goods beyond repair. She could attempt to lead a 'normal life' but the potential to harm and kill will always be there.
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"It's thanks to the Canadian Government for giving Karla her "sweetheart deal" which has allowed her to be free for what she did after only 12 years."


It depends on your definition of free. How much freedom has been given to Karla? She is not in a physical penal institution, but one that is much greater. She is now among the general population of her peers where she will always be an outcast. She will have no friends, no financial means of supporting herself, no peer support. She will always have concern for her safety. She may not have remorse for what she did, but she knows that she is one of the hated in Canada.


"A Poster has said that the Canadian Government has made changes to make sure that their big "mistake" is never repeated. Yeah, like that is supposed to give some sort of consolation to the French's and the Mahaffy's. It's a little too late if you ask me!"

Nothing will ever give the involved families peace or contentment. Karla's life could have been ended, but that would not mend the broken hearts of the involved families. Each of the involved families is mourning the loss of a loved one, not the sentence given to Karla. Of course, the involved families would like to see Karla spend the rest of her life in prison. So does most, or all, of Canada.

It is never too late to amend policies, rules, regulations or laws. The amendments could never regain the loss of a life, but it could decrease the chance of another loss of a life.
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"I have been a victim of DV & know someone like Karla,although this person never murdered or sexually abused.This person is so controlling,manipulating,self-absorbed,ect,she once told me she tries to be nice"

Your post is not clear on that person being a victim of DV or if she is simply someone you know.

If she is a victim of DV, was she that way prior to the DV?

My guess is that her problems are genetic.
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:54 PM
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Where is she?

Isn't Karla Homolka the one who blamed her partner for all the crimes and then when all the hoopla was almost over she tried to shag another wife murderer?
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:59 PM
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The sad truth is she is my sister.She has cut off all communication with her immediate family as she blames each of us for her actions.She was a very caring person,even though she was controlling.Controlling behavior ,as anything is not that bad as long as it does not go to extremes.For a short period in her life,she was a victim of DV,as was I.I did not turn out like her or Karla H.I did at one time ,go live with her to learn how to be mean,cause I was tired of being hurt by people.I could not do it.Unfortunately,she started doing drugs & continued for about 20 years.IMO,this was the end of the sister I knew,she will never be the same as she doesn't feel the need to change.She has been married 5 times & does not have ANY long lasting realationships with any person.I could go on about this tragedy,the point is,I believe people are born with traits,bad or good,the question is what we do with them through out our lives.Human beings Have to accept all responsibly of their actions,if not each generation could blame the former.
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I do not know you or your family, so my comments are general.

There are no excuses for wrong-doings, but there are reasons.

"She was a very caring person,even though she was controlling"

What I have noticed in others is that at times their perceived caring nature is actually a subtle attempt at control. You have acknowledged your sister's controlling nature. I will assume other family members have also. You do not have to answer this question here, but I hope you answer it to yourself - Did you or any other family member attempt to discussion the control issues with your sister during the initial recognition of the control issues?

"I did at one time ,go live with her to learn how to be mean,cause I was tired of being hurt by people"

The troubling factor is that you made the attempt. It could be said that you went to extreme measures to "learn how to be mean". Fortunately, your genetic makeup did not allow you to succeed. Now, take your sister who will not have the exact genetic makeup as you. Unless your sister suffered a traumatic experience or a head injury, there would be strong probability that it is genetic. Her drug usage is not the cause of her problems, but it is responsible to the escalation of her problems.

"I believe people are born with traits"

That means it is genetic, unless it is a defect.
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Re: Leave Her Alone!

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I just wanted to say that I think that Karla Homolka should be left alone. I know that the media say they have a public duty to keep an eye on her, and I have no problem if that's as far as it goes. But I don't trust the media to use discretion in that endeavor. I'm afraid they'll hound her and take photos of her in the hope of making a profit. That won't do anybody any good, and it might even result in more tragedy.
I agree that the recent 'outing' of Homolka served no purpose beyond the enrichment of the folks at Global. The interests of Karla Bernardo and society are one and the same in this instance; she should be left alone to put together a semi-normal life and not driven underground. John Rosen, Bernardo's defense attorney and nemesis of Karla Homolka all those years ago said this leading up to her release last year:

"She had to go in there and do her time," he says. "She didn't crumble. She didn't panic. She cannot possibly be the same person now. I think she must have found an internal strength she probably didn't know existed."

Denying her a livelihood or a place to live now, he reasons, will make society no safer. "I think she is pretty savvy and will know to stay away from the wrong people. I think she will lead a quiet, successful life and never get into trouble again. She will quietly disappear into the woodwork."
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<snip> Karla tortured then ended the lives of three young people. She did not do it once but three times.
So often I hear about how Homolka tortured people. Karla did nothing to interfere with brutal physical, psychological and sexual assaults on others, but she herself did not torture victims, or encourage the torture of victims, or express any enjoyment at watching the torture of victims. Paul spent hours with the girls alone, and Karla's sexual interaction with the girls was a fraction of that of Paul's. Virtually all of her actions were directed on film by Paul, set up like a lesbian porn film with two girls 'in love' and acting out consensual sex. I don't in any way mean to minimize the terror or humilation of the victims, but Homolka simply didn't 'torture' people the way I think is widely assumed.

The only thing that approaches anything like this is a sequence of tape lasting less than a minute that involved a foreign object used against a victim. Paul ordered her to do it, told her to do it harder so it hurt, and then took over because she wasn't doing it hard enough. That's the extent of it. It is so hard not to seem to be minimizing the victims' ordeals, and that is not my intention. It just needs to be understood IMO that there are profound differences between the actions and motivations of Bernardo and Homolka that justify the different sentencing results.
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*snip*

The only thing that approaches anything like this is a sequence of tape lasting less than a minute that involved a foreign object used against a victim. Paul ordered her to do it, told her to do it harder so it hurt, and then took over because she wasn't doing it hard enough. That's the extent of it. It is so hard not to seem to be minimizing the victims' ordeals, and that is not my intention. It just needs to be understood IMO that there are profound differences between the actions and motivations of Bernardo and Homolka that justify the different sentencing results.
Oh I think that's enough- she is sick and so are you!!!
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Oh I think that's enough- she is sick and so are you!!!
Sigh. No, Kiki, I'm not sick. I'm just into facts. I find what the court called Homolka's 'somewhat secondary role' relevant, and so should you.
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Are you naive or simply ignorant to reality? Do you truly believe that everything was video taped? You have no knowledge of everything that went on between Karla, Paul, and the victims. How could you say that you know all of the facts?

Are you naive enough to believe that every word or group of words written in a document, book, or spoken in a court of law is factual?

Is your reality based on what you read and hear?......I read it in the ?? therefore it must be true?????

I understand that your postings here may be therapeutic to you. If so, then I am glad that it is beneficial to you. However, you are coming across as a person of unsavor character.
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I agree that the recent 'outing' of Homolka served no purpose beyond the enrichment of the folks at Global. The interests of Karla Bernardo and society are one and the same in this instance; she should be left alone to put together a semi-normal life and not driven underground. John Rosen, Bernardo's defense attorney and nemesis of Karla Homolka all those years ago said this leading up to her release last year:

"She had to go in there and do her time," he says. "She didn't crumble. She didn't panic. She cannot possibly be the same person now. I think she must have found an internal strength she probably didn't know existed."

Denying her a livelihood or a place to live now, he reasons, will make society no safer. "I think she is pretty savvy and will know to stay away from the wrong people. I think she will lead a quiet, successful life and never get into trouble again. She will quietly disappear into the woodwork."
Yeah too bad those 3 innocent girls wont be living successful lives. They had their lives ended because of that ***** karla and her loser ex husband. I hope someone makes karla pay and pay good. She deserves the fate of her 3 victims she helped murder.
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*snip*

"So often I hear about how Homolka tortured people."



Awful, isn't it?
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So often I hear about how Homolka tortured people. Karla did nothing to interfere with brutal physical, psychological and sexual assaults on others, but she herself did not torture victims, or encourage the torture of victims, or express any enjoyment at watching the torture of victims. Paul spent hours with the girls alone, and Karla's sexual interaction with the girls was a fraction of that of Paul's. Virtually all of her actions were directed on film by Paul, set up like a lesbian porn film with two girls 'in love' and acting out consensual sex. I don't in any way mean to minimize the terror or humilation of the victims, but Homolka simply didn't 'torture' people the way I think is widely assumed.

The only thing that approaches anything like this is a sequence of tape lasting less than a minute that involved a foreign object used against a victim. Paul ordered her to do it, told her to do it harder so it hurt, and then took over because she wasn't doing it hard enough. That's the extent of it. It is so hard not to seem to be minimizing the victims' ordeals, and that is not my intention. It just needs to be understood IMO that there are profound differences between the actions and motivations of Bernardo and Homolka that justify the different sentencing results.
I am actually just reading the book "invisible darkness" about this sadistic couple.

From the descriptions of video tapes in this book, Karla thoroughly enjoyed her role in holding these young girls hostage and tormenting them. She could have stopped it at any time and they would still be alive today, as is she.

She HELPED Paul kidnap these girls, for Pete Sake. And we only have her word that she never helped kill them, I personally believe she did. She is a monster and I hope the media keeps tabs of her throughout her life so she will NEVER be able to commit such a heinous crime again.

If she has to only endure media scrutiny, she is getting another "deal" as she deserves so much more punishment than she will ever recieve.

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Isn't Karla Homolka the one who blamed her partner for all the crimes and then when all the hoopla was almost over she tried to shag another wife murderer?
The one who helped murder her younger sister & 2 other girls for deviant sexual purposes . She doesn't even have to register as a sexual predator.Totally disgusting human
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Canadian,I have been working at my job alot,haven't had time to reply.We all tried in different ways to help my sister.I was thinking ,maybe if schools taught classes about life in general,such as ,realationships,parenting,up's & down's of life,working,etc.,maybe it would help .In a way ,maybe they could be more prepared about life.
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I will also ask not to be misunderstood as I proceed.

Sex offenses against children should see the offender being dealt with severely. What would be the best and proper way to do this is yet to be determined. Although many would like to see sex offenders' lives ended, that would setback civilization. We could not say we are a civilized society if we act or react uncivilized.

Keep in mind that the vast majority of offenders, who rape and kill, rape for control and kill because they are psychopaths.

Do we want to track the sex offenders or the psychopaths? Are we subconsciously focused on the sex offenders due to many of them being involved in psychotic behaviour?

In a round-about-way, we are tracking a number of killers by tracking the sex offenders.

IMO, the global society is focused on the sex offenders because it sees the ultimate violation as being the violation of the human body.

What about the other types of murderers? Would you not want to know if your neighbour was convicted of one or more murders? Would you not want to know if your neighbour is a psychopath?

What about the drug dealers who are raping the body, souls,and minds of your children? Would you not want to know if your child is being exposed to drugs by a neighbourhood drug dealer?

Society, as a whole, has to begin to acknowledge and accept that physical and mental abuse is as damaging as sexual abuse.

I jumped around in this post to keep it as short as possible. I also know that I went a bit off topic.
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Font: * * * * MONTREAL -- Karla Homolka has resurfaced.

The notorious sex killer has not been seen in public since last summer, when a Toronto Sun reporter found her working in a hardware store in Longueuil.

But her brief spell out of the spotlight is over.

As she walked out of her east-end apartment just after 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, Homolka was greeted by a Global television reporter who has been keeping tabs on her since Christmas.


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That's Homolka!! Doesn't look a thing like her. I would never have known it was her if I lived there.
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That's Homolka!! Doesn't look a thing like her. I would never have known it was her if I lived there.
Yeah, me too Cami. It looks like a picture of a real ugly Gwyneth Paltrow. LOL!!
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I've been very interested in this case for years, and I've come to a conclusion about Karla which is probably not a popular one. I think that if Karla had never met Paul, she would have likely lived a very crime-free productive life. She is not the first woman to be so sexually obsessed by a man that she would do anything for him. Remember that Karla was very young when she got involved with Paul Bernardo. She was determined to do whatever it took to make him happy - even help him kill and kidnap young women. This passionate, obsessive, sexually deviant relationship was one that escalated over time. But clearly Karla was victimized by Paul too. One has only to look at some of the pictures of her beaten face to know that. That does not excuse her for her part in the deaths of her sister, Leslie, and Kristin. She has served 12 years in prison. She was vilified for having a relationship (via mail) with a male prisoner who had killed his girlfriend. She can't leave her house without fear for her life. For the rest of her life she will have to live with what she did, and no one else will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life. Many murderous people responsible for heinous crimes have gotten out of prison and lived productive lives. But I guess no one on this board believes in redemption of any kind. Not where she is concerned, and that puzzles me. Is it because she is bi-sexual? I'm well aware of the deviant nature of her relationship with Bernardo, but that does not mean that I think she is beyond redemption
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Re: Re: Karla Homolka has resurfaced

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That's Homolka!! Doesn't look a thing like her. I would never have known it was her if I lived there.

Has anyone else noticed that one very distinguishing feature is her eyes? I don't mean the color, but the fact that she seems to look half asleep much of the time? That may be the reason he put on sun glasses when she was confronted.
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:42 PM
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Redemption?

Take an item to a redemption centre and you will see the decreased value.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:16 PM
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Re: Leave Her Alone!

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I just wanted to say that I think that Karla Homolka should be left alone. I know that the media say they have a public duty to keep an eye on her, and I have no problem if that's as far as it goes. But I don't trust the media to use discretion in that endeavor. I'm afraid they'll hound her and take photos of her in the hope of making a profit. That won't do anybody any good, and it might even result in more tragedy.


If she lived next door to you.....would you not keep an eye on her?
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:25 PM
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For the rest of her life she will have to live with what she did, and no one else will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life. Many murderous people responsible for heinous crimes have gotten out of prison and lived productive lives. But I guess no one on this board believes in redemption of any kind. Not where she is concerned, and that puzzles me. Is it because she is bi-sexual? I'm well aware of the deviant nature of her relationship with Bernardo, but that does not mean that I think she is beyond redemption

In order to commit her henious crime and get out of prison and lead a productive life....... she must first feel culpability, remorse and regret. Carla has expressed non of this in any sincere manner.

Yes, she will have to live with what she did and no, no one will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life.....BECAUSE.... she chose these consequences when she chose to murder and rape. That was HER choice.

How silly to confuse the feelings of the overwhelming injustice of her freedom with feelings about the insignificance of bisexuality.
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Old 09-09-2006, 05:47 PM
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For the rest of her life she will have to live with what she did, and no one else will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life. Many murderous people responsible for heinous crimes have gotten out of prison and lived productive lives. But I guess no one on this board believes in redemption of any kind. Not where she is concerned, and that puzzles me. Is it because she is bi-sexual? I'm well aware of the deviant nature of her relationship with Bernardo, but that does not mean that I think she is beyond redemption

In order to commit her henious crime and get out of prison and lead a productive life....... she must first feel culpability, remorse and regret. Carla has expressed non of this in any sincere manner.

Yes, she will have to live with what she did and no, no one will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life.....BECAUSE.... she chose these consequences when she chose to murder and rape. That was HER choice.

How silly to confuse the feelings of the overwhelming injustice of her freedom with feelings about the insignificance of bisexuality.

*Frowns* The first part of the above was supposed to be someone else's quote.

I think I erased the brackets *sighs*
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:32 PM
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judgement...

I try to think if I was her mother...if this was my child..that took the life of one of my other children....

and then lives of 2 others...

not to mention the mental anguish and forever emotional distress of those raped....

we tend to forget jane doe here...because she wasn't murdered...she has the wonderful task of living to tell about it...or not...

given a choice..and having been molested and raped...

I'd like to see my tormentor dead and buried...

she should be given a chance?
let her live in peace?

there is no peace for those she touched with her barbaric selfish behaviour...

I could never forgive a child of mine for taking the life of one of their siblings....

poor karla...

her father is the only one that gets that....her mother and sister need their heads examined...

we as a public were made fools of because of how the government did the deal.....funny how she was pretty smart in getting out just in time when she needed to....when they were getting close...

but not smart enough to put a stop to him before he kidnapped or killed....

any person with a conscience would have sacrificed for their sibling...just one little yell upstairs to her parents and it would have been over and done with....

right or wrong is a choice....

and she made her choice....

she doesn't get to live in peace...

she gave that up when she made her choice....

its called a consequence....

nuff said...
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jadedheart: Excellent post! Thank you for posting!
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Re: judgement...

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I try to think if I was her mother...if this was my child..that took the life of one of my other children....

and then lives of 2 others...

not to mention the mental anguish and forever emotional distress of those raped....

we tend to forget jane doe here...because she wasn't murdered...she has the wonderful task of living to tell about it...or not...

given a choice..and having been molested and raped...

I'd like to see my tormentor dead and buried...

she should be given a chance?
let her live in peace?

there is no peace for those she touched with her barbaric selfish behaviour...

I could never forgive a child of mine for taking the life of one of their siblings....

poor karla...

her father is the only one that gets that....her mother and sister need their heads examined...

we as a public were made fools of because of how the government did the deal.....funny how she was pretty smart in getting out just in time when she needed to....when they were getting close...

but not smart enough to put a stop to him before he kidnapped or killed....

any person with a conscience would have sacrificed for their sibling...just one little yell upstairs to her parents and it would have been over and done with....

right or wrong is a choice....

and she made her choice....

she doesn't get to live in peace...

she gave that up when she made her choice....

its called a consequence....

nuff said...


well put my friend, well put.....
that's what many believe and have been saying all along, I posted a few times in this forum

....Did Jane Doe ever recieve justice for the crime inflicted on her? If not, then why???????

I have google mail send me news clips whenever that woman's name is mentioned in the media, I'd hate to have that creepy thing for a neighbour. Even if the legal authorities feel she isn't a threat, I can't forget what she's done, and I don't trust her, I believe she should be monitored like other perverted pedophiles. IF her crime was less severe (which it isn't) then sure, she deserves to live her life quietly, but her crimes are too atrocious, worst, done against CHILDREN not just one child, but many!

She should be where her ugly husband is, in jail. (and not that sorry excuse of a jail she was in before, partying and living up the good life)

Of course this is just my opinion.
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I would probably have a different opinion of Karla had she:

When she was asked by Paul to help him rape Jane Doe, did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything!

When she was asked by Paul to help him rape her baby sister, did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything!

When she was asked by Paul to help him rape, torture and eventually kill, dismember and dispose of Leslie, did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything!

When she was asked by Paul to help him kidnap, rape, torture and eventually kill and dispose of Kristen, did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything!

Was Karla bound and gagged? No!
Was there a gun pointed to Karla's head? No!
Was Karla ever left alone in the house? Yes!
Did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything! No!

After all of the above, I am supposed to feel sorry for Karla? Karla has served her time so I am supposed to let her live her life and leave her alone?

Sorry, I don't think so!

JMO and MOO!!
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