Acting Innocent? Acting Guilty?

[limakey]

This thread is about how the same set of words or acts can be seen as points of guilt or innocence. This is just based on our gut feelings.

For example: Mr. Dunne felt that the moment he saw that Simpson was cuffed and didn't demand that the cuffs be taken off of him and didn't tell the cops to take the cuffs off of him and offer all of his money to find the killers, that he was guilty.

IMO, if Mr. Simpson was freaking out like Mr. Dunne thought he should have been, I would have said that he is guilty. An innocent man would have remained calm and cool and know that the cuffs would come off because this was a mistake.

[limakey]

Another example that I have read is that Mr. Simpson never asked which wife it was when told he she was killed. Well, IMO, had Mr. Simpson asked which wife, it would have been a dead give away that he was guilty. I would have said that you have been with this woman for over 17 years and you are asking which wife?

Also, in that same scene, Mr. Simpson did say something that pointed to his innocence---when Det. Phillips told him that he needed to calm down because his children were at the police station, he asked why were his kids there? To me, that means he didn't know where Nicole was killed--which had he been the killer, he would have known why the kids were there.

[limakey]

S-Diva,

I see your point, but then again, aren't we asking that all people have the same reaction to the same news?

You do make an excellent point, about what many people would be "normal" and that is another "sore point" with me on this case. Why wasn't any LE officer present when OJ got the news? Remember, the LAPD said they wanted to give him a personal notification because of the press, they wanted to make sure that if he did totally freak out, they wanted to be there and help him digest this horrific news and help him deal with his young children.

Again, IMO, had someone been there when he was told, there would be no controversy regarding the cut on his hand and his reaction to the murders. IMO.

[limakey]

S-Diva,

You bring up another great point! Det Phillips was very vague about the circumtances of her death--it was his job to be at this point. I have no problem with that.

However, don't you think it is a weak argument that because he didn't ask which wife, that is a sign of guilt? And I think it was after Simpson said, "what do you men she was killed?!" is when Phillips said that he needed to get a hold of himself for his kids.

While Vanatter and Lange have been bashed and trashed for their interview of him, they were vague for a reason. IMO, they ended the interview because he said nothing they could use and it was best to stop it before he gave any more information that would have helped them.

I believe I posted this to Kate awhile ago, but this is another prime example when all "guess work" could have been taken out of the equation if they had LE there when he was told or if the Chicago LE told him that Nicole was dead. IMO.

[Wukong]

Limakey,

Great topic and you make some good arguments. You will notice as this thread continues that every instance brought up that the poster feels may point to innocence or guilt will have good arguments that will slant the story one way or the other, depending on the poster's overall view of the case. Then good points will be made by the opposing side. Hopefully it doesn't turn ugly.

Here's my first go at it: I remember clearly when this whole case broke. I felt at the very beginning there was no way OJ is guilty. I was outraged when I saw them talking to him and he had the cuffs on. But, when he took off in that Bronco I felt immediately that this was not the actions of an innocent man. I admit that this may have skewed my thinking while watching the whole case unfold but I still tried to stay objective. I never could find anything during the trial that convinced me he was innocent.

Wukong

[Beebee]

I've said this before, but I think it fits on this thread.... OJ leaving for a golf match, making no attempt to find and get rid of evidence left on the property to me is consciousness of innocence. He had no idea what had been left (planted) on his property.

At 10:00 OJ made a call to his girlfriend. Was he thinking about Paula when he was also thinking about rage killing Nicole? I can't see it.

OJ was calm and happy at the recital. Despite the lying testimony of (I forget her name)-- the video was played in court.... he was calm and happy.

OJ was calm, hungry and tired when he went to McDonalds to eat-- Now, this is supposidly shortly before the kill. Does a person who is homicidal and raged have the desire to eat a burger? I don't think so.

Nicole was no angel. Let's face it, she wasn't. She slept with plenty, yet OJ never rage killed her. Why on June 12? Makes no sense. I don't see a motive.

OJ loves his kids. He would not kill Nicole and leave her for them to find. imo

[nettathirty]

Originally posted by socaldiva
Simpson not asking about the manner of Nicole's death reeks of guilt. He didn't ask if it was a car accident, or where or how she died. Even LE who routinely have the task make death notifications found it noteworthy. It is normal to ask questions, IF you don't already know the answer.

IIRC, Denise Brown was on the phone simultaneously as Lou Brown when the call came to the Browns home about Nicole's death. Denise who at the time unware of any marital problems between OJ and Nicole, could be heard yelling OJ did it, he finally killed her. This goes without saying, but she was at the recital a little more than 12 hours earlier hugging OJ!

[martin II]

limakey

oj's conversation with Det Lang---

"what do you men she was killed?!"

sound like a direct request from oj for ALL the info about micole/his ex wife being killed.

martin II

[limakey]

Wukong,

Thank you for your post! I hope it stays this way!

When I first heard of the murders, my first thought was OJ, where is OJ and I felt a sudden rush of emotion and I said to a friend, "see, money and fame don't make immune to a crime of passion."

Now, here is another way to look at the Bronco chase. Remember all the media reports, like the murder weapon being a military entrenching tool, then perhaps some sort of saber? I believe it was reported that a bloody mask was found plus a few more hundered details that were said to have come from "sources" inside the police department or some agency directly involved with the investigation.

He never would have made even into the Bronco because he would have laughed himself into a coma! I mean they weren't even close on some of the stuff---he knew the clothes would never be found, he knew the murder weapon would never be found, he knew who cleaned up after him, he heard all the reports that he was the only suspect, etc., etc. So there was no need for him to "run".

Now, flip that around if you can, think that OJ is innocent. (I know it might hurt, but if you read this quickly, the pain will go away!)

Or if it less painful, put yourself in OJ's place. You are being accused to killing your ex and her "friend". Cops say they have glove found on your property, they have found the murder weapon, they have witnesses on the plane to say that you were hiding your hands all the way to Chicago, they have found a sack of bloody clothes just blocks from your hotel in Chicago. Now, lets "fame" into the pictures. The press who has always been so good to you in the past, is now portraying as you an animal, that you had mistresses who went to the police because you paid them off millions for taking his beating, you even paid for the plastic surgery on that face that you broke.

We both have ex's, and while divorce is extremely painful, I would be shattered if I was accused of killing my ex. Granted, I wanted him to hurt, but I wanted the "broken toe" hurt. One that was really painful, impossible to cast and takes a long, long, long time to heal. If the cops were accusing me, and they said they found all this stuff and all these witnesses, I would think I might take a ride, just to figure out what was going on.

Also, as I have posted before, OJ knew why his marriage, both of his marriages broke up. And if what Cora says is true, that she warned him that Nicole was in serious trouble and that he needed to get her out of there, how was he suppose to feel? He didn't listen and now she is dead. Wouldn't any husband or wife feel guilty because they didn't listen.

BTW, I think if OJ was guilty of the murders, he would have killed himself.

[limakey]

S-Diva,

They may have only been married for 7 years but I think they had something like 17 years together.

In the spirit of this thread, lets just say that OJ did ask the questions you thought he, as an innocent man, would have asked.

He wanted all the details---isn't it fair to say that some people, perhaps even the police, would have turned it against him, saying that the only reason why he was asking these questions is because he wanted to know what they knew so he could plan his alibi? Isn't it also fair to say that for every cop who felt his not asking questions is a sure sign of his guilty, that there would be a cop ready to testify that in all the cases they were involved in, the husband was even too upset to even think about how they died, just the fact they were dead put them into the grief zone that they couldn't even be asked their own name at that point?

[alien]

Originally posted by Wukong
Limakey,


Here's my first go at it: I remember clearly when this whole case broke. I felt at the very beginning there was no way OJ is guilty. I was outraged when I saw them talking to him and he had the cuffs on. But, when he took off in that Bronco I felt immediately that this was not the actions of an innocent man. I admit that this may have skewed my thinking while watching the whole case unfold but I still tried to stay objective. I never could find anything during the trial that convinced me he was innocent.

Wukong

Wukong, that is what made me judge him guilty. I never thought of his guilt or innocence when I heard about Nicole's death, but that Bronco chase and what I learned during the trial convinced me of his guilt.

[alien]

Originally posted by Beebee
I've said this before, but I think it fits on this thread.... OJ leaving for a golf match, making no attempt to find and get rid of evidence left on the property to me is consciousness of innocence. He had no idea what had been left (planted) on his property.

At 10:00 OJ made a call to his girlfriend. Was he thinking about Paula when he was also thinking about rage killing Nicole? I can't see it.

OJ was calm and happy at the recital. Despite the lying testimony of (I forget her name)-- the video was played in court.... he was calm and happy.

OJ was calm, hungry and tired when he went to McDonalds to eat-- Now, this is supposidly shortly before the kill. Does a person who is homicidal and raged have the desire to eat a burger? I don't think so.


Nicole was no angel. Let's face it, she wasn't. She slept with plenty, yet OJ never rage killed her. Why on June 12? Makes no sense. I don't see a motive.

OJ loves his kids. He would not kill Nicole and leave her for them to find. imo

IMO, unless you have killed someone how can you know how a killer should or would act? I posted on another thread that IMO OJ was very selfish and was only thinking about himself at the time.

[alien]

Originally posted by limakey


BTW, I think if OJ was guilty of the murders, he would have killed himself.

Limakey, would you ever mind expounding on this statement and tell me why you feel that way.

[weezer]

*Snip*

Originally posted by limakey
.BTW, I think if OJ was guilty of the murders, he would have killed himself.

When AC talked to the police from the Bronco he said something like, "I have OJ in the car and he's threatening to kill himself."

[limakey]

Alien,

The reason why I think he would have killed himself if he was the murderer was because if he took his own life, there would always be some question of his innocence. A dead man can't defend himself.

Also, I think if he was the murderer and even if the cops were wrong about a lot of the other stuff, the glove found behind his house was pretty damning. At that time, he had no idea of the questions that were to come about the glove, he had no way of knowing anything about MF at the time. He had no way of knowing about any of the other problems of evidence.

Also, it had to be shocking to see how the media turned on him (in his opinon), he had to be stunned about how many people who thought he was innocent changed their minds once they heard the 911 tape the cops released.

[limakey]

BeeBee and Martin,

IMO, I never would have sent my two younger, minor children to stay with my ex-in-laws, especially after at one of them already accused me of killing their mother. That just would not have happened in my world.

Another point----OJ got raked over the coals by the media because he Kato to find out what was going on at his house. OJ said that he wanted to know if the cops were tearing up his house, well if he is the killer, who cares about Rockingham---shouldn't have been more concerned on what was found at Bundy?

And I don't believe that OJ ever talked to Sydney or Justin before they went down to their grandmother's. I don't think Arnelle was ever asked if Sydney and/or Justin said anything to her about that night. What they heard or didn't hear.

IMO, if OJ was the killer, he had to have found out what Sydney and/or Justin saw or heard that night---then worry about his house being torn up.

[weezer]

*Snip*

Originally posted by limakey
IMO, I never would have sent my two younger, minor children to stay with my ex-in-laws, especially after at one of them already accused me of killing their mother.

. . .OJ got raked over the coals by the media because he Kato to find out what was going on at his house. OJ said that he wanted to know if the cops were tearing up his house, well if he is the killer, who cares about Rockingham---shouldn't have been more concerned on what was found at Bundy?

And I don't believe that OJ ever talked to Sydney or Justin before they went down to their grandmother's. I don't think Arnelle was ever asked if Sydney and/or Justin said anything to her about that night. What they heard or didn't hear.

Orenthal wasn't worried about his children -- he was more concerned about getting his golf bag from the airport. Besides, he didn't have to wonder about what his children saw or heard, he'd sent Arnelle and AC to get the kids. He would have known everything they said.

You should go back and re-read Orenthal's depositions/testimony/statements -- that was his house and his house only. Those were his things and his things only.

[limakey]

S-Diva,

From what Mr. Simpson has said in interviews, he was advised on how to handle this. That he was not to ask, it was up to his children to come to him. He was also warned that he had to address the issue right then and there, he couldn't put them off. Apparently he was telling the truth because even the expert talking heads could not disagree with this.

We also know that OJ wrote letters to all his children, we do not know what was in the those letters and therefore, we don't know what he "said" in those letters.

We also know that the Browns did not provide a safe mental health environment for the children. It had to be hell for all of them living in that house together.

From my personal experience, I believe that in today's world we do seek professional advice much quicker then in generations past, why? Because in so many cases, we can't possibly understand what our children are going through because we hadn't experienced the same. For example, divorce. I'm not a child of divorce, it took years for my son's pain to come out and I'm devasted to discover, that he has years and years left of pain on this.

I also believe there is a huge difference between being a single parent and a soul parent. IMO.

[weezer]

*Snip*

Originally posted by limakey
From what Mr. Simpson has said in interviews, he was advised on how to handle this. That he was not to ask, it was up to his children to come to him. He was also warned that he had to address the issue right then and there, he couldn't put them off. Apparently he was telling the truth because even the expert talking heads could not disagree with this.

We also know that OJ wrote letters to all his children, we do not know what was in the those letters and therefore, we don't know what he "said" in those letters.

We also know that the Browns did not provide a safe mental health environment for the children. It had to be hell for all of them living in that house together.

From my personal experience, I believe that in today's world we do seek professional advice much quicker then in generations past, why? Because in so many cases, we can't possibly understand what our children are going through because we hadn't experienced the same. For example, divorce. I'm not a child of divorce, it took years for my son's pain to come out and I'm devasted to discover, that he has years and years left of pain on this.

I also believe there is a huge difference between being a single parent and a soul parent. IMO.

Seems odd that you wouldn't talk about it with your children -- Unless you make it an off limits subject. I would think he would have had at least a cursory conversation to reassure them that they were safe and there was nothing to be afraid of -- especially after writing them his goodby letters. I think the more telling thing about his children is that Sydney called the police and said her dad was abusing her -- wonder where that came from?

You are being very harsh on the Brown's -- even Orenthal said he knew they loved the children and that that was the best place for them if they couldn't be with him.

[Wukong]

I was cruising CTV and came across this post on the Notorious murders board. I was quite suprised and wondered if anyone here thinks 2L8 is guilty or innocent (In keeping with this thread topic).

2L8 4A D8
Senior Member

Registered: Oct 2004
Location: NANCY GRACELAND
Posts: 7181
This is the only way for me to...
participate in the OJ Simpson Board and Threads. They didn't have enough ammunition to ban me completely, so they did the next best thing ~ they banned me from the OJ Simpson Board and all Threads. I would be interested to know if this has been done to any other Posters.

If you didn't know this already (I didn't), please be advised that stating "JMO and MOO" in your Post doesn't protect you from being banned. I call a spade, a spade and some people just can't handle that.

I still have questions and comments re: the OJ Simpson case. I hope that Posters from the OJ Board will support me in my endeavor. If not, this Thread will die a slow death and at least I tried!

It's late, so I will post my questions and comments at a later time ~ if this Thread makes it to late Sunday morning that is! LOL!

JMO and MOO!! For whatever good that it does!

[Wukong]

Hey Socal,

What I meant by 2L8 being innocent or guilty had to do with why she was banned. In my opinion 2L8 was a good poster who was here before I was and I never saw her get out of line any more than anyone else here. I'm shocked she was banned.

Wukong

[Kate Sachel]

Originally posted by limakey
This thread is about how the same set of words or acts can be seen as points of guilt or innocence. This is just based on our gut feelings.

For example: Mr. Dunne felt that the moment he saw that Simpson was cuffed and didn't demand that the cuffs be taken off of him and didn't tell the cops to take the cuffs off of him and offer all of his money to find the killers, that he was guilty.

IMO, if Mr. Simpson was freaking out like Mr. Dunne thought he should have been, I would have said that he is guilty. An innocent man would have remained calm and cool and know that the cuffs would come off because this was a mistake.

One of the main behaviors that piqued my curiousity is how calm and collected OJ continued to be in both the criminal trial and the civil trial. If I was wrongly accused of butchering the mother of my children, I would feel rageful and I would let the world see it.

In my opinion, he was trying far too hard to give the idea that he was not capable of losing his temper, but rather always remained a calm man.

[Kate Sachel]

Originally posted by Wukong
Hey Socal,

What I meant by 2L8 being innocent or guilty had to do with why she was banned. In my opinion 2L8 was a good poster who was here before I was and I never saw her get out of line any more than anyone else here. I'm shocked she was banned.

Wukong

I agree. I can't say that I am suprised though, because she is brutally honest and while I applaud such I didn't figure that it would sit well with some.

I think she was an excellent poster, and I hope that she will reincarnate as we have seen so many do.

[alien]

Originally posted by Wukong
Hey Socal,

What I meant by 2L8 being innocent or guilty had to do with why she was banned. In my opinion 2L8 was a good poster who was here before I was and I never saw her get out of line any more than anyone else here. I'm shocked she was banned.

Wukong

I myself liked 2L8 and reading some of her posts. IMO, she did dis the moderator on some occasions so I wonder if that is what prompted her being banned. Correct me if I am wrong about it being 2L8 who made the comments.

I hope I don't get banned for this.

[Beebee]

Originally posted by Kate Sachel


One of the main behaviors that piqued my curiousity is how calm and collected OJ continued to be in both the criminal trial and the civil trial. If I was wrongly accused of butchering the mother of my children, I would feel rageful and I would let the world see it.

In my opinion, he was trying far too hard to give the idea that he was not capable of losing his temper, but rather always remained a calm man.

Hi Kate,

I don't think OJ was all that calm. He broke a glass in Chicago, then we had the wild Bronco ride. During the criminal trial, I saw different emotions on his face (JMO) and I didn't get the impression he was always calm.
I think he was using restraint because he had no choice. How many trials do you see people getting out of control? The ones that do usually come across as looking like lunatics, so I can see why defense attys advise certain behaviors.

[alien]

Originally posted by limakey
Alien,

The reason why I think he would have killed himself if he was the murderer was because if he took his own life, there would always be some question of his innocence. A dead man can't defend himself.

Also, I think if he was the murderer and even if the cops were wrong about a lot of the other stuff, the glove found behind his house was pretty damning. At that time, he had no idea of the questions that were to come about the glove, he had no way of knowing anything about MF at the time. He had no way of knowing about any of the other problems of evidence.

Also, it had to be shocking to see how the media turned on him (in his opinon), he had to be stunned about how many people who thought he was innocent changed their minds once they heard the 911 tape the cops released.

Thanks for the response Limakey.

If I can put my 2 cents in....IMO, OJ was the kind of person who probably never thought he would be judged guilty or would have people turn against him. He always thought that what he did was justified and probably thought he could turn the tide of public and media opinion back in his favor. I think the Bronco chase was his way of saying, look at poor me. People think that I am a murderer so if I kill myself because I can't deal with that and I want to be with Nicole, they will change their minds, feel sorry for me and know there is no way I could have killed Nicole.

Also, IMO was that a lot of the public probably never even thought OJ could be the killer because of how OJ presented himself to the public. That Bronco chase started changing people's minds (at least it did mine..not what the media was reporting) and then what came out in the criminal trial made them feel justified for believing OJ guilty. The civil trial was the icing on the cake for guilty.

I also don't think OJ had the guts to kill himself.

These are just my thoughts, Limakey. I am not dissing you for yours.

[Kate Sachel]

Originally posted by Beebee


Hi Kate,

I don't think OJ was all that calm. He broke a glass in Chicago, then we had the wild Bronco ride. During the criminal trial, I saw different emotions on his face (JMO) and I didn't get the impression he was always calm.
I think he was using restraint because he had no choice. How many trials do you see people getting out of control? The ones that do usually come across as looking like lunatics, so I can see why defense attys advise certain behaviors.

The "wild" Bronco chase? I hope you are kidding, there was nothing wild about it. He signed his suicide note with a smiley face for goodness sakes.

The only things the Bronco showed us is a man of guilty action, hence the disguise, passport, and cash.

I don't believe he broke a glass in Chicago as a result of being upset at the news that Nicole was killed. Since I believe that he already knew she was dead as a result of him killing her, it is my belief that he broke the glass purposefully in an attempt to validate his wounds on his hand.

[Beebee]

Originally posted by Kate Sachel


The "wild" Bronco chase? I hope you are kidding, there was nothing wild about it. He signed his suicide note with a smiley face for goodness sakes.

The only things the Bronco showed us is a man of guilty action, hence the disguise, passport, and cash.

I don't believe he broke a glass in Chicago as a result of being upset at the news that Nicole was killed. Since I believe that he already knew she was dead as a result of him killing her, it is my belief that he broke the glass purposefully in an attempt to validate his wounds on his hand.

I say "wild" because it happened at all. A calm person wouldn't be acting so irrationally, imo.

Since you believe OJ guilty, all of his actions are going to be suspect to you. JMO

I'll ask this question anyway-- Do you think calmly eating a burger (appetite) with a friend and calling his girlfriend around 10:00 pm is normal for somebody who is about to rage kill?

[Kate Sachel]

Originally posted by Beebee


I say "wild" because it happened at all. A calm person wouldn't be acting so irrationally, imo.

Since you believe OJ guilty, all of his actions are going to be suspect to you. JMO

I'll ask this question anyway-- Do you think calmly eating a burger (appetite) with a friend and calling his girlfriend around 10:00 pm is normal for somebody who is about to rage kill?

I didn't find the Bronco chase to be irrational, but rather the calculated actions of a guilty man attempting to flee.

Your question contradicts itself, as a rage killing is something that occurs in the moment. I think he premeditated certain actions that evening, but the rage aspect occurred sometime during the act.

Calling his girlfriend around 10:00? Considering the fact that he had made numerous attempts to contact her, and the fact that phone records proved he had picked up the voice mail in which she dumped him, I would have to say that continuously attempting to contact the woman who dumped you does not show a calm and rational mind set.

[martin II]

kate

I think that anyone that attemps to give the Pula phone call as a excuse for oj to loose it and decide to commit murder is doing a hugh job of streatching. Paula made her call to oj because oj refused to allow her to interject herself into what was a family affair.The recital. He and Nicole had some kind of agreement not to bring their lovers to these kind of events that involved the children and oj told paula she could not go.

Remember this was not the first time Paula had become pissed with oj about Nicole or something else and dumped him so to speak.

Next OJ knew that Nicole had nothing to do with paula going off this time. So no reason to have ill feelings against Nicole because of Paula's call. As a matter fact oj not allowing paula to go to the recital indicates that oj was respecting nicoles wishes on this matter.

What is wrong with oj calling Paula 2-3 times trying to get her. This does not mean that because he did not get her he decides to just go kill Nicole. imo
,martin II

[martin II]

Originally posted by Kate Sachel


The "wild" Bronco chase? I hope you are kidding, there was nothing wild about it. He signed his suicide note with a smiley face for goodness sakes.

The only things the Bronco showed us is a man of guilty action, hence the disguise, passport, and cash.

I don't believe he broke a glass in Chicago as a result of being upset at the news that Nicole was killed. Since I believe that he already knew she was dead as a result of him killing her, it is my belief that he broke the glass purposefully in an attempt to validate his wounds on his hand.

the wound found on his hand was made from jagged glass not a knife. according to the doctor.
martin II

[martin II]

I think the Bronco chase was his way of saying, look at poor me. People think that I am a murderer so if I kill myself because I can't deal with that and I want to be with Nicole, they will change their minds, feel sorry for me and know there is no way I could have killed Nicole.

alien
according to your post above, oj, if he killed himself would have cause to be concerned what the public would think of him after his death.
martin II

[Kate Sachel]

Originally posted by martin II
kate

I think that anyone that attemps to give the Pula phone call as a excuse for oj to loose it and decide to commit murder is doing a hugh job of streatching. Paula made her call to oj because oj refused to allow her to interject herself into what was a family affair.The recital. He and Nicole had some kind of agreement not to bring their lovers to these kind of events that involved the children and oj told paula she could not go.

Remember this was not the first time Paula had become pissed with oj about Nicole or something else and dumped him so to speak.

Next OJ knew that Nicole had nothing to do with paula going off this time. So no reason to have ill feelings against Nicole because of Paula's call. As a matter fact oj not allowing paula to go to the recital indicates that oj was respecting nicoles wishes on this matter.

What is wrong with oj calling Paula 2-3 times trying to get her. This does not mean that because he did not get her he decides to just go kill Nicole. imo
,martin II

How on earth did you translate my post into meaning that I believe that OJ lost it because of Paula's phone call or that I believe that OJ being unable to contact Paula means that he just "decides to just go kill Nicole"?

Astounding. Utterly and completely astounding.

[Kate Sachel]

Originally posted by martin II


the wound found on his hand was made from jagged glass not a knife. according to the doctor.
martin II

According to a doctor perhaps, but not according to all doctors.

[Kate Sachel]

Originally posted by martin II

alien
according to your post above, oj, if he killed himself would have cause to be concerned what the public would think of him after his death.
martin II

OJ was obviously concerned with what the public would think of him after his death, hence the contents of his "suicide note".

It's really not confusing.

[martin II]

Originally posted by alien


I myself liked 2L8 and reading some of her posts. IMO, she did dis the moderator on some occasions so I wonder if that is what prompted her being banned. Correct me if I am wrong about it being 2L8 who made the comments.

I hope I don't get banned for this.

alien
the moderator warned all that baiting and stinging personal attacks would cause posters to be banned. Dissing the moderator, as you say , does not seem to be a good stratergy if one desires to remain on the thread.

martin II

[weezer]

Originally posted by Beebee


Hi Kate,

I don't think OJ was all that calm. He broke a glass in Chicago, then we had the wild Bronco ride. During the criminal trial, I saw different emotions on his face (JMO) and I didn't get the impression he was always calm.
I think he was using restraint because he had no choice. How many trials do you see people getting out of control? The ones that do usually come across as looking like lunatics, so I can see why defense attys advise certain behaviors.

Petrocelli said that during the depositions, Orenthal would puff out his cheeks and make a blowing noise in an effort to control himself. LOL -- Big ole head and puffed out cheeks......I bet he looked like a cartoon. LOL

[weezer]

Originally posted by Wukong
Hey Socal,

What I meant by 2L8 being innocent or guilty had to do with why she was banned. In my opinion 2L8 was a good poster who was here before I was and I never saw her get out of line any more than anyone else here. I'm shocked she was banned.

Wukong

I thought 2L8 was an excellent poster. I'm sorry we've lost her. Maybe she can come back as Martin III or nettathirtysomething -- wouldn' that be a hoot? LOL

[martin II]

Originally posted by Kate Sachel


OJ was obviously concerned with what the public would think of him after his death, hence the contents of his "suicide note".

It's really not confusing.

kate
it is my opinion that everything that oj did would be considered as an indicaiton of his guilt by some. The good news is that there was no suicide and he was found not guilty of charges brought against him in a court of law by a legal jury. imo
martin II

[martin II]

Originally posted by fbgweezer
I thought 2L8 was an excellent poster. I'm sorry we've lost her. Maybe she can come back as Martin III or nettathirtysomething -- wouldn' that be a hoot? LOL

fbg

you are seeking a response right.
martin II