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07-02-2006, 05:31 AM
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Schiavo case is back!
Florida, June 30, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A North Country Gazette exclusive reveals that Florida’s Department of Health has demanded the nursing license and nearly $1700 dollars in fines and administrative costs from a nurse who gave public testimony in the case of Terri Schiavo. This comes at the same time that the Department of Health has dropped action against Michael Schiavo, also a registered nurse, for falsifying his guardianship papers.
License revoked
An interview with the prevaricating nurse is also on Crooks and Liars
Now that some time has passed since the circus left town, the zealots are starting to be exposed for what they really are. Good riddance. I wouldn't want this "nurse" caring for anyone that I care about.
Maybe Hannity will be next.
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07-02-2006, 06:54 AM
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Re: Schiavo case is back!
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Originally posted by ProxyUser
Florida, June 30, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A North Country Gazette exclusive reveals that Florida’s Department of Health has demanded the nursing license and nearly $1700 dollars in fines and administrative costs from a nurse who gave public testimony in the case of Terri Schiavo. This comes at the same time that the Department of Health has dropped action against Michael Schiavo, also a registered nurse, for falsifying his guardianship papers.
License revoked
An interview with the prevaricating nurse is also on Crooks and Liars
Now that some time has passed since the circus left town, the zealots are starting to be exposed for what they really are. Good riddance. I wouldn't want this "nurse" caring for anyone that I care about.
Maybe Hannity will be next.
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she was just on..last night. chek transcript!
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07-02-2006, 07:59 AM
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Actually, I don't think there is, just more rhetoric from the Conservative Right. Those folks that are so interested in making sure you don't make any personal decisions they don't approve.
Your own link (direct from the site, I chose not to correct their spelling), mission statement:
http://www.blogsforterri.com/mission.php
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We Belive that:
Value of life unrelated to quality of life.
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It matters not what you want for yourself, they "value" your life therefore you must submit to whatever they deem appropriate, year after year after year.
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07-02-2006, 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by Ring-o-Saturn
Actually, I don't think there is, just more rhetoric from the Conservative Right. Those folks that are so interested in making sure you don't make any personal decisions they don't approve.
Your own link (direct from the site, I chose not to correct their spelling), mission statement:
http://www.blogsforterri.com/mission.php
It matters not what you want for yourself, they "value" your life therefore you must submit to whatever they deem appropriate, year after year after year.
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My mother while suffering with ALS didn't have much "quality" in her life but her life sure as heck had "value"....as a daughter, a wife, a mother, a grandmother and a human being. This isn't "rhetoric", this is FACT!
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07-02-2006, 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Jessie Hylton
I pity those who criticized Terri's parents. They have no clue as to what love really means. Sad.
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Really?
Well I hope nobody ever "loves" me like Terri's parents loved her. Forcing someone to live in a PVS is not love, imo-- it is pure selfishness.
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07-02-2006, 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Beebee
Really?
Well I hope nobody ever "loves" me like Terri's parents loved her. Forcing someone to live in a PVS is not love, imo-- it is pure selfishness.
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My mother often worried about being a "burden" on the family yet I would have taken her any way I could have her - she was my mom.
The way I see it, if I were in a PVS and it was comforting to my family to keep me alive until the time they could come to terms with my dying, then so be it. What harm would it be doing to ME?
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07-02-2006, 08:51 AM
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Re: Schiavo case is back!
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Originally posted by ProxyUser
Florida, June 30, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A North Country Gazette exclusive reveals that Florida’s Department of Health has demanded the nursing license and nearly $1700 dollars in fines and administrative costs from a nurse who gave public testimony in the case of Terri Schiavo. This comes at the same time that the Department of Health has dropped action against Michael Schiavo, also a registered nurse, for falsifying his guardianship papers.
License revoked
An interview with the prevaricating nurse is also on Crooks and Liars
Now that some time has passed since the circus left town, the zealots are starting to be exposed for what they really are. Good riddance. I wouldn't want this "nurse" caring for anyone that I care about.
Maybe Hannity will be next.
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07-02-2006, 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Jessie Hylton
Hospices are funded by our government for patients who are dying...(6 months left to live). I don't think that includes death by not feeding their patients..otherwise we would all qualify..
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Terri could of died anytime, no one had anyway of knowing, the only thing keeping her body alive was lawsuits, her mind was already gone - jmho
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07-02-2006, 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by blueberri
I wonder what qualifies a person to be in a position to judge someone elses' "quality" of life? I wonder what qualifications a person needs to decide who lives and who dies?
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well, you mean like mr schindler made the choice for his mother? and terri's husband made the choice for his wife?
and if your out of cash it seems some states decide?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html
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07-02-2006, 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by LisaM22
Terri could of died anytime, no one had anyway of knowing, the only thing keeping her body alive was lawsuits, her mind was already gone - jmho
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My MIL is in a nursing home with Alzheimer's. Her mind has been gone for some time now. At what point do you think she should stop being fed?
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07-02-2006, 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by hockeymomof5
My MIL is in a nursing home with Alzheimer's. Her mind has been gone for some time now. At what point do you think she should stop being fed?
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if she is a vegetable and on life support, that is up to her next of kin if she has not already made that choice for herself - jmho
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07-02-2006, 09:07 AM
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THANK YOU JESSIE. I am thinking I must be missing something .They dropped other investigations to go after this one? Talk about having credibility issues.
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07-02-2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by Justicegy
Why would anyone stop feeding a conscious person? I don't understand why you would even ask this.
There's a heck of a difference between a person with Alzh Disease and being in a vegetative state.
Why did you ask this?
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Because of LisaM's comment "the only thing keeping her body alive was lawsuits, her mind was already gone"
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07-02-2006, 09:10 AM
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Terri's admission forms to the hospice weren't signed as required, but I guess, seeing as how the good Judge Greer and "Death is Beautiful" Fellows were on the hospice board of directors, these little things could be over looked. Just like how MS actually got his "nursing" degree is overlooked and how he got his job at the jail is overlooked, how Michael and the good Judge were messed up in the insurance business in Forida is overlooked. Michael's theme song is "I've Got Friends In Low Places". JMO
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THANK YOU BLUBERRI, this case is a disgrace. I hope this story never dies...there are too many perps waiting for a trial.
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07-02-2006, 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by hockeymomof5
Because of LisaM's comment "the only thing keeping her body alive was lawsuits, her mind was already gone"
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with Alzheimer's the mind IS there, the memories are just not accessible - jmho
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07-02-2006, 09:22 AM
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with Alzheimer's the mind IS there, the memories are just not accessible - jmho
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Alzheimer's is NOT just about memory. There is an eventual loss of brain cells that control the other organs in the body causing the loss of essential functions.
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07-02-2006, 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by Beebee
Really?
Well I hope nobody ever "loves" me like Terri's parents loved her. Forcing someone to live in a PVS is not love, imo-- it is pure selfishness.
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07-02-2006, 09:26 AM
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Re: Schiavo case is back!
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Originally posted by ProxyUser
Florida, June 30, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A North Country Gazette exclusive reveals that Florida’s Department of Health has demanded the nursing license and nearly $1700 dollars in fines and administrative costs from a nurse who gave public testimony in the case of Terri Schiavo. This comes at the same time that the Department of Health has dropped action against Michael Schiavo, also a registered nurse, for falsifying his guardianship papers.
License revoked
An interview with the prevaricating nurse is also on Crooks and Liars
Now that some time has passed since the circus left town, the zealots are starting to be exposed for what they really are. Good riddance. I wouldn't want this "nurse" caring for anyone that I care about.
Maybe Hannity will be next.
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I couldn't agree more. Perhaps now that the disgraceful circus has gone on to other places the truth may see the light of day. Instead of the steady stream of lies that were fed out daily.
Iyers is one very scary lady and I can't imagine anyone having her for a nurse. The nursing field will be better off with her gone.
It has never failed to amaze me how some trotted Iyers out as a hero, and yet would never explain why the Schindlers never acted on her info until well after the trial was over. If you believe Iyers, you have to believe the Schindlers knew in 95 and 96 that Michael was mistreating Terri. And they did absolutely nothing about it. Didn't call her as a witness in trial. Or else you accept that Iyers was a nut case. But some want it both ways. They want to believe what Iyers said against Michael and completely ignore the part where she says she told the Schindlers about it. About par for the course in this case. jmo
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07-02-2006, 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by hockeymomof5
Alzheimer's is NOT just about memory. There is an eventual loss of brain cells that control the other organs in the body causing the loss of essential functions.
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regardless, Terri nor her grandmother had Alzheimer's - if your on life support with no hope of recovery and have not or can not make the choice yourself, your next of kin should make the decision - if you don't trust your next of kin, do a living will, heck, I would do one anyways to save them the pain of having to make that choice for me- jmho
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07-02-2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by Jessie Hylton
You could die anytime as well. Do you live in a hospice??
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if you can not see the difference, I can't help you - jmho
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07-02-2006, 09:51 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Schiavo case is back!
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Originally posted by Jessie Hylton
I don't see any difference between Michael Schiavo and Scott Peterson.
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terri's dad had to make the same choice for his mom, how do you feel about that? and I do not remember Laci being PVS - heck, I do not even know how Laci died - jmho
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07-02-2006, 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by LisaM22
regardless, Terri nor her grandmother had Alzheimer's - if your on life support with no hope of recovery and have not or can not make the choice yourself, your next of kin should make the decision - if you don't trust your next of kin, do a living will, heck, I would do one anyways to save them the pain of having to make that choice for me- jmho
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TOO bad Terri had all that insurance.
I question his capacity to love any human being. No decent honorable man would make a mockery of both women and his children like he did unless it was for money. moo
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07-02-2006, 09:59 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Schiavo case is back!
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Originally posted by Jessie Hylton
Apples and oranges. Terri was not on life support..all she needed was food and water to live..er..just like you.
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terri was on life support, all his mom needed was air to live..er..just like you. - jmho
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07-02-2006, 10:01 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Schiavo case is back!
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I don't see any difference between Michael Schiavo and Scott Peterson.
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I am very sorry you are completely incapable of seeing the facts. There is zero evidence to support what you say above.
Scott Peterson is on death row because he was convicted of killing his wife and unborn son. That is what the evidence showed.
The evidence showed that Terri was not abused, strangled or harmed. The evidence showed she was PVS, that she was terminal. And a trial and countless motions supported the ruling of removing life support. The evidence showed the Schindlers didn't care and wouldn't honor Terri's wishes if they knew what they were. The evidence showed the Schindlers had no case. The evidence showed the Schindlers have lied repeatedly and engaged in an ongoing smear campaign against Michael. The evidence shows that they hired Terry and gave him carte blanch to do just that. The evidence shows Michael was Terri's next of kin and was legally her guardian and was the proper person to decide her care.
But, if you see no difference there isn't much anyone can do for you. jmo
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07-02-2006, 10:03 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Schiavo case is back!
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Originally posted by Jessie Hylton
that's a lie..Terri was not on life support..she was breathing on her own..
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that's a lie..Terri was on life support, did she not die after life support was removed  - jmho
http://www.tfd.com/life-support
"life-sup·port (lfs-pôrt, -prt)
adj.
Of or relating to the methods, equipment, or conditions needed to sustain life."
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07-02-2006, 10:06 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Schiavo case is back!
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Originally posted by Jessie Hylton
that's a lie..Terri was not on life support..she was breathing on her own..
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I guess there aren't many facts in this case you are familiar with. Terri was on life support, her feeding tube. You may not like it, but that is life support. Terri could not eat. She hadn't had food in years. jmo
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07-02-2006, 10:31 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Schiavo case is back!
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A feeding tube alone was not defined as life support until the state of Florida changed the law to accomodate Michael Schiavo's quest to terminate his wife.
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it was always life support, they just had to define it so people would not be confused about it - jmho
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07-02-2006, 10:32 AM
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Not that I'm aware of. At least not that I saw in the story about the nurse losing her license and having to pay a fine.
What you're talking about is unsubstantiated rumor.
This post was about a fact, and was confirmed by the nurse's own comments on Hannity's show. Big difference.
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07-02-2006, 10:33 AM
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THANK YOU BLUBERRI, this case is a disgrace. I hope this story never dies...there are too many perps waiting for a trial.
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This "case" should have died with Terri. It was her life, her story. Anyone interested in writing/telling one, do your own, help a friend, it's not easy to do. Shed tears with your own family, make sure you own your own private thoughts and that no one can trespass. IT IS OVER!
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07-02-2006, 10:35 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Schiavo case is back!
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A feeding tube alone was not defined as life support until the state of Florida changed the law to accomodate Michael Schiavo's quest to terminate his wife.
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EXACTLY BLUE! How convenient.
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07-02-2006, 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Jan Powell
This "case" should have died with Terri. It was her life, her story. Anyone interested in writing/telling one, do your own, help a friend, it's not easy to do. Shed tears with your own family, make sure you own your own private thoughts and that no one can trespass. IT IS OVER!
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HER case died with her. THEIR case and THE case did not nor should it as we are all at risk of being victims of our family members. This issue is greater than TS and she was the conduit to show us that.
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07-02-2006, 10:38 AM
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Hospices are funded by our government for patients who are dying...(6 months left to live). I don't think that includes death by not feeding their patients..otherwise we would all qualify..
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What do you mean they're funded by the government? The same way that most doctors and hospitals are funded by the government. By accepting Medicare? They're also funded by private insurance, and by billing their patients for anything not covered by insurance or Medicare.
All I know for sure about this case is that I don't want the circus clowns who disrupted the peaceful setting of the hospice in Florida with their small-minded protests, making any decisions for me.
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07-02-2006, 10:40 AM
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Hospices are funded by our government for patients who are dying...(6 months left to live). I don't think that includes death by not feeding their patients..otherwise we would all qualify..
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Actually, death by dehydration is a common everyday hospice practice.
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07-02-2006, 10:42 AM
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I pity those who criticized Terri's parents. They have no clue as to what love really means. Sad.
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I know what you mean.
Love means selling video tapes of your daughter like she's a performing seal or something. If that's your idea of love, be nice to your local Children's Services investigators when your neighbors turn you in.
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07-02-2006, 10:45 AM
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HER case died with her. THEIR case and THE case did not nor should it as we are all at risk of being victims of our family members. This issue is greater than TS and she was the conduit to show us that.
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I did a living will to protect my family from those RTLifers that may want to harass them for honoring my wishes  for Terri and her loving husband - this is one of the biggest lessons to learn from all this - jmho
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07-02-2006, 10:49 AM
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I did a living will to protect my family from those RTLifers that may want to harass them for honoring my wishes for Terri and her loving husband - this is one of the biggest lessons to learn from all this - jmho
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Lisa if that is what we all learned then Terri didnot die in vain and did a great service to the quality and protection of our own lives.rose:
As for her husband and his role: even Jesus had Judas to make the world a better place.
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07-02-2006, 10:50 AM
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Terri's admission forms to the hospice weren't signed as required, but I guess, seeing as how the good Judge Greer and "Death is Beautiful" Fellows were on the hospice board of directors, these little things could be over looked. Just like how MS actually got his "nursing" degree is overlooked and how he got his job at the jail is overlooked, how Michael and the good Judge were messed up in the insurance business in Forida is overlooked. Michael's theme song is "I've Got Friends In Low Places". JMO
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Wow! You sure seem pretty knowlegable about this! Maybe you should see if you can get someone to investigate this case! If I were you, I'd write to Senator Bill Frist. Not only is he a senator, you know, but he's also a doctor who I'm sure could get to the bottom of this!
Right now, I know he's really busy, with passing himself a pay raise, the flag burning amendment, and the boys-kissing-boys amendment, and all, but I'm sure that when he has the time, he'd be glad to attach his reputation to this important, timely issue.
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07-02-2006, 10:53 AM
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I do have a living will, and if I hadn't? After following this case I sure the heck would have been on it right away.
When I become vegetative or if I physically 'die' there will be no question for my loved ones, everything is on paper. Right down to visitation, music played and where my ashes are meant to be placed.
I am going to help a tree grow after they take everything they can from my body, in the name of saving lives or science.
Honestly? I/we went through burying my FIL 9 years ago, he had heart issues for 10 years prior but he never even made out a will...I watched both of his children work out the issues while both were broken hearted...that is not the time to do it.
It is fortunate that both his son and daughter agreed on everything, I have seen families ripped apart by the aftermath of serious injury/death.
In the end it is such a personal thing, and I sure don't want to create anymore grief than I would have to...even when/if I was (close to) physical death.
I want them to remember me with a smile in their hearts, and to celebrate my life and what I have brought to their lives.
Just my opinion of course.
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07-02-2006, 10:55 AM
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I do have a living will, and if I hadn't? After following this case I sure the heck would have been on it right away.
When I become vegetative or if I physically 'die' there will be no question for my loved ones, everything is on paper. Right down to visitation, music played and where my ashes are meant to be placed.
I am going to help a tree grow after they take everything they can from my body, in the name of saving lives or science.
Honestly? I/we went through burying my FIL 9 years ago, he had heart issues for 10 years prior but he never even made out a will...I watched both of his children work out the issues while both were broken hearted...that is not the time to do it.
It is fortunate that both his son and daughter agreed on everything, I have seen families ripped apart by the aftermath of serious injury/death.
In the end it is such a personal thing, and I sure don't want to create anymore grief than I would have to...even when/if I was (close to) physical death.
I want them to remember me with a smile in their hearts, and to celebrate my life and what I have brought to their lives.
Just my opinion of course.
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07-02-2006, 10:58 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Schiavo case is back!
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I am very sorry you are completely incapable of seeing the facts. There is zero evidence to support what you say above.
Scott Peterson is on death row because he was convicted of killing his wife and unborn son. That is what the evidence showed.
The evidence showed that Terri was not abused, strangled or harmed. The evidence showed she was PVS, that she was terminal. And a trial and countless motions supported the ruling of removing life support. The evidence showed the Schindlers didn't care and wouldn't honor Terri's wishes if they knew what they were. The evidence showed the Schindlers had no case. The evidence showed the Schindlers have lied repeatedly and engaged in an ongoing smear campaign against Michael. The evidence shows that they hired Terry and gave him carte blanch to do just that. The evidence shows Michael was Terri's next of kin and was legally her guardian and was the proper person to decide her care.
But, if you see no difference there isn't much anyone can do for you. jmo
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 TY for putting it better than I could.
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