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Old 03-29-2006, 10:18 AM
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Flamming Mad Redneck "Locals"

I declared I would not post on this "debil" forum ever again~~but enough is enough! We "locals" are citizens of Ocilla and Irwin County we choose to live here, we have an excellent community and wonderful people and yes EVEN wonderful Law Emforcement.
Tara Grinstead a beautiful young teacher decided of her own free will to make her home and life in our community. We welcomed her with open arms and grew to love and respect her. WE did not judge her as I have seen so many here do. We excepted the fact that she was a grown lady and of course she would have gentleman callers. Now with this said Irwin County had Nothing to do with her choice in men, neither did her family. Tara choose on her own who to love, date and/or have relations with. This was none of Irwin County citizens business.
She choose on her Own where to live, who to love , who to be friends with, what to wear, and we still loved her.
Now we come to the sad part, something happened to Tara while she lived in Irwin County, The "locals" or citizens of Irwin County and Ocilla did not do this! Someone with malice in their heart did a horrible thing, who that someone is has not been proved and you who are so quick to judge our community for it are so blind. Our community is "exhausted" we have lived this and you all have just visited and condemed us, Why? Our Local Law Enforcement have faults, true, but so does yours. Our LE and "locals" have searched every phy-chick idea and every tip given, countless man and woman hours. We have fed the searchers that came from all over the country and we have welcomed them with open arms. And then we come to these boards and you arm chair detectives condem us for our efforts and make up stories to suit your idea of this crime without any concern for Tara her family or us dreaded "locals". Is this all you have to do with your time?
Then you have the gall to sit back in your arm chair and ask "locals" for information. When we give YOU Facts you flip us off as unknowing and build your own "facts" to suit your story line. You all make me sick, have you ever thought if something BAD happened in your community you would be a "local" and if you got out and searched and helped you would be a stupid ignorant "local" and if your LE did not solve the case in 2 hours and post all their evidence on this site they to would be stupid and ignorant!
Folks we love Tara we want closure not your sarcasm.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:22 AM
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I am sorry maybe I haven't had enough caffeine but what is a "debil" forum?
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:29 AM
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De Debil

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I am sorry maybe I haven't had enough caffeine but what is a "debil" forum?
If this is all you got from my heart felt post this is another reason to feel sorry for you guys.
On another board I called this board the devil and in our redneck local slang it became De debil borad.
Wish I could find Tara as easily as I explained that tidbit of fact finding information. Have 2 more cups of caffine, I think you need them lol
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:29 AM
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I am sorry maybe I haven't had enough caffeine but what is a "debil" forum?
LOl I think the person meant to say devil. Dont worry its not the coffee lol.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:30 AM
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I've never attacked the locals of Ocilla.. The LE on the other hand has made some of us wonder. I haven't thought much until they called off that search that ran behind Harper land. Why?!? Tara is missing. Every square inch of Ocilla should be searched. Everyone should be cooperative. Why would MH's mother call the LE and have it called off?!? It doesn't make sense IMO.. Their concern should be for Tara.. I would think MH's mother would want to clear her son's name so why not let them search her land?!? It just doesn't sound right and upsets some of us that LE would call it off.. Why?!? Anyway, I have nothing against the locals of Ocilla.. If you feel I have offended you and your town in any way I apologize.. I just want Tara to be found. No stone unturned.. May god bless you and your town..

Prayers for Tara..
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:33 AM
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Re: Redneck "Locals"

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I declared I would not post on this "debil" forum ever again~~but enough is enough! We "locals" are citizens of Ocilla and Irwin County we choose to live here, we have an excellent community and wonderful people and yes EVEN wonderful Law Emforcement.
Tara Grinstead a beautiful young teacher decided of her own free will to make her home and life in our community. We welcomed her with open arms and grew to love and respect her. WE did not judge her as I have seen so many here do. We excepted the fact that she was a grown lady and of course she would have gentleman callers. Now with this said Irwin County had Nothing to do with her choice in men, neither did her family. Tara choose on her own who to love, date and/or have relations with. This was none of Irwin County citizens business.
She choose on her Own where to live, who to love , who to be friends with, what to wear, and we still loved her.
Now we come to the sad part, something happened to Tara while she lived in Irwin County, The "locals" or citizens of Irwin County and Ocilla did not do this! Someone with malice in their heart did a horrible thing, who that someone is has not been proved and you who are so quick to judge our community for it are so blind. Our community is "exhausted" we have lived this and you all have just visited and condemed us, Why? Our Local Law Enforcement have faults, true, but so does yours. Our LE and "locals" have searched every phy-chick idea and every tip given, countless man and woman hours. We have fed the searchers that came from all over the country and we have welcomed them with open arms. And then we come to these boards and you arm chair detectives condem us for our efforts and make up stories to suit your idea of this crime without any concern for Tara her family or us dreaded "locals". Is this all you have to do with your time?
Then you have the gall to sit back in your arm chair and ask "locals" for information. When we give YOU Facts you flip us off as unknowing and build your own "facts" to suit your story line. You all make me sick, have you ever thought if something BAD happened in your community you would be a "local" and if you got out and searched and helped you would be a stupid ignorant "local" and if your LE did not solve the case in 2 hours and post all their evidence on this site they to would be stupid and ignorant!
Folks we love Tara we want closure not your sarcasm.
I totally understand what you are saying but how come Dr. came up with evidence that the local LE didnt? I am not degrading the town anything like that but a lot of stuff has turned up that Dr has found that LE hasnt. Your gonna have media and people having opinions thats what the boards are for. Yes if I had someone daughter, family etc you bet I would want the media and LE involved until they were found. The town will be under some question until she is found and answers are served.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:33 AM
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Thanks for posing those ???

I agree with this post 100%. Always for Tara
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:41 AM
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She said exactly what she meant. De debil. It is a humorous reference from the movie Waterboy. It was used in a vain effort to find humor in a most disturbing situation.

In your attempts to find fault in her post you settled in on something you didn't understand. That tells me you understand the rest and don't want to admit it.

The beauty of her message is found in the content of her words. It came from her heart and she deserves respect for it. Something that some of you seem to find elusive these days.

gacountry, I feel your pain and I heard your words loud and clear. Thank you for sharing them. They make perfect sense to me.
Ok now that we got that out of the way geez.... lighten up people we are here for Tara.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:47 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Redneck "Locals"

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The Dr. is building fodder for his book. THAT is why he found "evidence" that hadn't been found before. Let's examine what he found that wasn't found before? Some brown stains that MAY be blood? You can bet your sweet arse that if those stains were blood we'd know it by now. I'd have to bet it wasn't blood. A fingernail? After 5 months of that house being traipsed through, cleaned, inhabited overnight, messed up again and cleaned again - how much evidence do you really think could be found in it that is relevant?

Dr Godwin is ALREADY profiting from his "investigation". See findtara.com for proof of that. Nothing comes free in this world. I don't fault him for what he does for a living but to think he is the knight in shining armor that has come in and revealed something amazing is naive.

I will make a prediction for you. Dr. Godwin's next book will be titled "Investigating the Investigation: The Tara Grinstead Case". Mark my words. He's building the plot as we speak.
I totally disagree, because he has solved so many unsolved cases before. So what he wants to make a book he must be doing something right to get someone to call him to tell him to back off. Sorry but he wasnt the one to back off a search of MH Moms property the Sheriff was explain that one hummmm
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:54 AM
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evidence

Think about this~~if our Local Law Enforcement and the GBI turned over every single bit of evidence they found on the scene to us~~~man that would be great would it not? Now after they give us all the gorey details of everything they found every scape of dust and finger nail trimmings they found, and even the good things like the dna on the tampon or whatever found in the trash can.
OK they have given us "common Joe and Ignorant Local" all the evidence. They arrest Mr, Somebody for the crime of whatever and they go to trail. Folks what will they use to base their case on? Don't you know who will go scott free because we were given the evidence. Our Justice System is not the best but its all we have and I for one want whoever harmed Tara to be judged and purnished not let off because LE and GBI gave us the evidence to play with.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:56 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Redneck "Locals"

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I'm so glad you mentioned that.

I have tried to find information about the cases he has solved. Could you provide that information? I'd love to take a look at that info.

I don't dispute that his involvement is good to have but if his focus is going to be on finding fault in what has been done rather than on finding Tara then I have concerns.

We want all the help we can get. Let's keep it focused on the positive aspect of finding Tara and whoever is responsible.
Go to his website and spend some time there and read all he has done and then prove your point ok....
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Think about this~~if our Local Law Enforcement and the GBI turned over every single bit of evidence they found on the scene to us~~~man that would be great would it not? Now after they give us all the gorey details of everything they found every scape of dust and finger nail trimmings they found, and even the good things like the dna on the tampon or whatever found in the trash can.
OK they have given us "common Joe and Ignorant Local" all the evidence. They arrest Mr, Somebody for the crime of whatever and they go to trail. Folks what will they use to base their case on? Don't you know who will go scott free because we were given the evidence. Our Justice System is not the best but its all we have and I for one want whoever harmed Tara to be judged and purnished not let off because LE and GBI gave us the evidence to play with.
Good point considering there is still alot of missing and unsolved case in Georgia yeah yeah Le our finest. I have nothing against LE considering mine is a LE officer and it just seems that this case from the start was not handled right imo.
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:00 AM
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4ANGELS:"to get someone to call him to tell him to back off."

This is his words. What makes you believe him? How do we know someone called him or drove up to where he was at in a camper, which I don't believe for one second.
I believe it and if you dont thats your opinion.
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:18 AM
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Reading here is giving me visions of Linda Blair in "The Exorcist". I haven't thought of that movie in years. LOL!
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:36 AM
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Reading here is giving me visions of Linda Blair in "The Exorcist". I haven't thought of that movie in years. LOL!
Linda Blair? The Exorcist"? And you needed caffine to understand my "De Debil" comment.
Believe me our town has lived in the Accused Cursed Town with the Devil in our mist for the past 5 months plus, and all we want is a little respect. We have not hurt you people but you sure have had a hay day with us. Read back see how much respect we have been given and we are the ones that have given our all for Tara. We have seen our friends and Law Enforcement shed tears right alone beside us. We have prayed, stayed awake, saw the sadness in students eyes and we come here and try to enter act with you all and we get ridicule read back at any locals post then read the response and you will see it. It is saved for all to read just take time to do it. As I see it you all have that time because you are not down here having to live it everyday.
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:01 PM
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Where we live.........

I have been reading this forum for several months now. And the conclusion i have come to is this: This is NOT a elementary school playground, we don't need any bullies, so everybody just sit back and take a deep breath. No I am not from Irwin County. But I do live in Dodge County which is about 2 counties over from Irwin Co. We Dodge COuntians have been through similar situations before and 'outsiders' will blast you~because they have their mindset~but WE live here! We KNOW things others don't know and probably shouldn't know. When a 'spotlight' is thrown on your town or county for 'bad' reasons, everybody wants to know everything or thinks they already know everything! Well, that ain't always the case. They are things that JOe or TOm or Jane know about their town they would prefer not everyone in the world know. It is pretty common that every town, city, county has their own little problems, but most don't get the 'coverage' that some do.
So it is with Irwin COunty now. NOBODY in this town or county ASKED for this to happen. Unfortunately, it DID happen and there is 1, maybe more, person(people) responsible. I want nothing more than this to be over, Tara's family to get closure, this town and county to get on with their lives. Thank you.
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:57 PM
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Do you think it's possible for any or all of us to be on common ground?!? No one expects LE to "spill the beans". This is an investigation after all. Some people just believe they are not being "thorough". Some believe they are protecting their own.. There are some "dirty" cops out there.. They are all over the U.S.A. You may have some in Ocilla.. I don't know.. Things just don't seem right since they called off that search on Harper land.. Gives you an uneasy feeling and you can't help but wonder "what (or whom) are they hiding".. JMO..
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:19 PM
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Good story, Matthew. Now what was the question the 8 yr. asked his father? Don't leave us hanging.
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:40 PM
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Ocillian,

Please explain the to the masses how it is that you know these FACTS that you profess to know. It's just strange that you have these facts, but you are hasty to belittle the FACTS that others provide.

I will be very interested when all the FACTS are actually brought forth by the proper authorities. Those are the only FACTS which can truly be trusted. I just wish they were more forthcoming, but it is an INVESTIGATION, albeit a slow one.
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I totally disagree, because he has solved so many unsolved cases before. So what he wants to make a book he must be doing something right to get someone to call him to tell him to back off. Sorry but he wasnt the one to back off a search of MH Moms property the Sheriff was explain that one hummmm



Read this and you will understand....

http://www.tiftongazette.com/homepag...yword=topstory



hopefully this will give you the answers you want.....
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:11 PM
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Let me ask one question for Seeker, GaCountry, and Ocillian from Ocilla.

Do you have a daughter, sister, grandchild???

If Tara had been your child and no progress had been made in 5 months, what would you do?

Would you seek outside help or sit back and still rely on the resources at hand?

In one sentence you say you want it to be over. In another sentence you discount what has been done to uncover new evidence as being "planted". For crying out loud people, what do you really want. You try to say the criminologist who "DID" receive a death threat is lying. Why would he contact the FBI??
They do not joke about such matters!! This is real, not a soap opera!! Not fodder for a book!!

Your fatigue in this situation matters "NOT" to me. It borders on selfishness. Again, I say, put yourself in the shoes of the family and then you might truly understand.

Not all of Ocilla thinks the same way as a few posters on this board. Thank goodness for that FACT.
Thank You so much Sassy.
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B I declared I would not post on this "debil" forum ever again~~but enough is enough! We "locals" are citizens of Ocilla and Irwin County we choose to live here, we have an excellent community and wonderful people and yes EVEN wonderful Law Emforcement.
Tara Grinstead a beautiful young teacher decided of her own free will to make her home and life in our community. We welcomed her with open arms and grew to love and respect her. WE did not judge her as I have seen so many here do. We excepted the fact that she was a grown lady and of course she would have gentleman callers. Now with this said Irwin County had Nothing to do with her choice in men, neither did her family. Tara choose on her own who to love, date and/or have relations with. This was none of Irwin County citizens business.
Now with this said Irwin County had Nothing to do with her choice in men, neither did her family. Tara choose on her own who to love, date and/or have relations with. This was none of Irwin County citizens business.
Now we come to the sad part, something happened to Tara while she lived in Irwin County, The "locals" or citizens of Irwin County and Ocilla did not do this! Someone with malice in their heart did a horrible thing, who that someone is has not been proved and you who are so quick to judge our community for it are so blind. Our community is "exhausted" we have lived this and you all have just visited and condemed us, Why? Our Local Law Enforcement have faults, true, but so does yours. Our LE and "locals" have searched every phy-chick idea and every tip given, countless man and woman hours. We have fed the searchers that came from all over the country and we have welcomed them with open arms. And then we come to these boards and you arm chair detectives condem us for our efforts and make up stories to suit your idea of this crime without any concern for Tara her family or us dreaded "locals". Is this all you have to do with your time?
Then you have the gall to sit back in your arm chair and ask "locals" for information. When we give YOU Facts you flip us off as unknowing and build your own "facts" to suit your story line. You all make me sick, have you ever thought if something BAD happened in your community you would be a "local" and if you got out and searched and helped you would be a stupid ignorant "local" and if your LE did not solve the case in 2 hours and post all their evidence on this site they to would be stupid and ignorant!
Folks we love Tara we want closure not your sarcasm.
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Thanks alot! Finally someone said what I have felt all along....

God bless you!
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:21 PM
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Sorry, but this is a very condescending piece of literature, Matthews 7:1.



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For the record - Seeker - once again you use highly emotional and erroneous language to make your opinion known. You really should use the IMO much more, of course that is IMO.

I did a simple elementary exercise that most kids learn in primary school and at Sunday school and is used at all levels of education. Considering this is a person in education who has been ripped from her life, I thought was apropos.

Once again Seeker - we will just have to agree to disagee once again!

As always imo.
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:56 PM
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I'm sure I will appear new to all of you here, but I've been here all along, I just don't post much on this case, as I've had no info to post. But I would like to add something regarding the feelings you locals have with this board, the investigation, and your feelings of who should be looked at and who shouldn't be.

I, too, come from a relatively small community, much like Ocilla is described. We got our first stoplight just last year. On August 16th, 2002, we had a tragic murder, missing person's case. Mother and Father shot and killed in their home, 11 yr old daughter missing. One month later, 11 yr old Jennifer's remains were found in another small local community, with one shot to her little body also. To date, this is still an unsolved case, with only 1 POI in all this time, but nothing substantial to be able to arrest him.

At first, all the major cable stations positioned their camera's and broadcasts and tracked themselves all over these 2 counties. But that didn't last very long. To date, I continiously email each and every one of these major news networks trying to get them to do updates, to no avail. I have not been able to find any postings on this board about this crime. And in another forum, there was a small article, but I came onboard and posted almost every news article about the case, and still, to this day, nobody around here hears anything about it at all and almost nobody on the popular forum I posted to even looks at the case anymore.

I realize that this case is very different, but you guys there are so lucky and you don't even realize it. You have so many people in your community as well as outside your community doing every little thing they can to help. I'm sure it gets frustrating for you, and you hate seeing people you know being scruntinized for their every move, and those here from the outside being so suspicious of so many there. I'm sure it's hard to see alot of what's been said and who alot of those here think should be POI's, because you are local, and you do know these people, and are close to some of them. But, do you have any idea how all of us in our community feel, knowing that we have a crime that in all aspects appears to be much more serious than the one there, and all of the interest in the case here by outside media outlets seemed to have disappeared after about 2 months? Do you have any idea how this feels to us, in our little community?

When you see people come here day after day, no matter what it is they are saying or what they might think, just thank your lucky stars that so many people care about this case and are staying here for the long haul and helping in any way possible to help solve this case there. And when you see people post things about someone you are close to, don't be so objective, unless YOU were there, with that person, on that particular night/day in question, and know for a fact that the POI's mentioned in this forum could not possibly be guilty.

There is someone that has invaded your community, whether it is a local or outsider, and is responsible for Tara being missing. You don't know whether she is deceased or not, but the odds don't look good at all. You should be looking over your shoulders every single day, and not trusting anybody, and questioning everything. And before you mark anybody off your list of POI's, just think of Mary Winkler, the woman who confessed to killing her preacher husband last week. There's not a single person who knew this family who would have ever thought this could have happened, and everybody is completely stumped by it.

How we would love to trade places with you all, and have all this attention to our area, and the murder's of the Short family. I can't think of a person here that wouldn't welcome the solving of this case, no matter what it took. If you want all the media to go away, I would gladly give you our location and you could please ask them to come back to our little town, we'd welcome anything they could bring with open arms!

As for me, I have never and will never quit looking over my shoulder, never quit being suspicious of anybody, and will always wonder if my own neighboor could be harboring some horrid secret that I don't know about, not until I know what happened to Jennifer and her family.

Of course this is all MOO, and I don't mean to offend any of you, but you have no idea how it feels to be in a similar community that had something very tragic happen, and 3 1/2 years later, be no closer to the truth than the day it happened.
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I can see everyone is so tired and frustrated today. I hope this will help. Please understand the search was not, let me repeat WAS NOT called off on the MH or the NR land. Their property has been searched and researched 4 different times by professionals and then too many times to count by local citizens and others who have been thru the designated search teams. Texas Equisearch scourered the land as did the local and out of town LE agencies. Their report was made at the Tara center on many occasions and they never said anything about NR or MH refusing searches. They were invited and welcomed to look for Tara. The day the "search on the adjacent property took place, the search was led by T's family and their investigator. If you have been a part of this case, you should know that the feelings Anita and Larry have towards Marcus and his mom have not been plesant. The LE was called that day as a witness and a protection service to Marcus and his mom so that no rumors, misconceptions, or problems would arise.
I have a sister and I love her. I would crawl to the end of the world to protect her and rescue her if she were missing. I can't say what I would or would not do and neither can anyone else. But I can say that this farm was searched many times and so was the land around it, and on that day the search continued. LE only asked that the searchers please find another avenue to travel to and from the farms other than the tiny path that travels in front of and connects to MH and his mom's home. I hope th is helps.
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To curious mom,

We must live very close to each other. There is not a day that I do not think of little Jennifer. Her mom and dad killed and the scum that kidnapped her and later killed her. We would welcome the media. Ocilla seems to think it only happens to them. I pray that they do not have to wait for years for any kind of resolve.

For Jennifer, her family, and Tara...

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curious mom,

What a sad thing to happen in your community. Prayers for the Short family and all of you in your quest for justice.
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And what name do you suppose that Dr. G is posting under? Amazing that you think he would stop his work to manipulate the train of thought on this message board.
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FWIW, I think the "support" team is beginning to worry. However, I can empathize with those locals who feel they are being disrespected. There is a lot of BS on here that has to be filtered and some are just too thin skinned. I have seen plenty of valid points, but also a lot of speculation.

I would just like to see a resolution soon.
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I don't get the impression that Ocilla thinks it only happens to them at all. I do get the impression that they are tired of being under a microscope 24/7 and who can blame them? Who can blame them for wanting to have this resolved (one way or another) and to be allowed to get back to life as it was before Tara was so quickly snatched away from them.

And having said that, the 3 different cadaver dogs hitting on the same pond on different occasions surely built up a lot of expectation, only to be proven wrong again. What a let down for everyone.



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To curious mom,

We must live very close to each other. There is not a day that I do not think of little Jennifer. Her mom and dad killed and the scum that kidnapped her and later killed her. We would welcome the media. Ocilla seems to think it only happens to them. I pray that they do not have to wait for years for any kind of resolve.

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What, are you the self appointed IMO police? lol

I don't recall reading that adding IMO was a requirement when posting on this board. It is actually added as a disclaimer by the choice of a poster so if they are proven wrong no one can come back and say "But you said..." (IMO of course)
I joined these boards last year and followed the Blake trial and you better believe you had to state a fact with a link or add the words In My opinion. If not, you were thrown out. That was the way it was, but I think Hotwater is allowing local people to state what they know. Maybe to seek information, if I read her warning correctly.

This is where I am coming from and old habits are hard to break.

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I will say that Hotwater has given tons of leeway on this forum. Never before have I seen the leniency at CTV. I do believe the good people at CTV know that this is a solvable case and for Nancy Grace, Seamus McGraw, Steve Huff, Marilyn Bardsley and all that work so hard to help, I thank you.
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Why? I think Dr. Godwin did a wonderful job and still is.
You are a sweetheart. Just between us I think he is doing a great job too.
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I dont know why most of the threads turn into a warzone.

I believe that if you are not involved on this case then you dont have to worry anything. This is not about Ocilla. This is all about a missing woman and she just happened to live in Ocilla.

This is a court tv board where the theories and speculations are discussed and we share our own opinions regarding to what we know. We appreciate informations that anyone can share but we are not wasting our time to play a game on this board. There is a missing woman. Anybody on her circle will be discussed including AG , LG , Faye , HD , MH , AV or anybody else . I dont really care if my opinion points that way because these people i mentioned are still alive , kicking, eating ..I am not on this board because of them.... It is because of Tara and we wanted her to be found.

Why cant we all get along and try to open our minds to all possibilities instead of fighting. If you dont want to continue on this board then simply log-off If you hate someone on this board then ignore. To be honest with all of you , most of the courttv forum addicts are not even in here yet and when they do hit this board then expect this board to be burning like hell.
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I joined these boards last year and followed the Blake trial and you better believe you had to state a fact with a link or add the words In My opinion. If not, you were thrown out. That was the way it was, but I think Hotwater is allowing local people to state what they know. Maybe to seek information, if I read her warning correctly.

This is where I am coming from and old habits are hard to break.

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I started at the Laci Peterson Board and i think those IMO, MOO, JMHO started from there from Coldwater
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The one thing you aren't considering is Chalandrapi's safety. She did her search and reported it and was disavowed by the Tara Command Center. Even though she found something significant. Let her or me search with a respected force behind us. Just remember that a few weekends ago searchers were harassed at MH's mothers property. Guns were fired in protest or deflection. Whatever, it isn't worth our own lives if we don't have assurance that it is safe.
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I came here and starting posting when I found a bone in one of my searches for Tara. I thought people might like to know about it. On my first week on this MB, I was called a lier and an outsider and one of those 3 hour away people. I was told by posting what I did, I was making fun of the local people. IMO, I never said anything bad about anyone local or not. I have never gone back out to help in the search for Tara again. I sit at my computer every spare minute that

Chalandrapi,
I think if I remember right you and another person went on this search alone and without The Tara Center or Local Law Enforcement knowing you were searching.
We have never refused or said we did not want people to come and search for Tara, we have welcomed all that we knew were searching with open arms and a free meal. The problem with Just going out and searching on your own is that it is not a search that The Tara Center knows about and your safety as well as the fact that anything found by you could be in question.
People do not seem to understand Tara is Our Main Concern, we have given time to Tara that we have taken away from family, friends and our daily chores as well as our jobs. I know I will get lots of negative feedback from this post but I am use to that.
People get this in your heads, Ocilla has opened its arms to the massed of reporters, cameramen, searchers and anyone that will help us. We are not uncaring monsters that met together and conspired to get rid of Tara. WE have been here for her before some of you knew she exsisted. She is a part of our city and county, she has touched the lives of OUR children so she will live forever in Irwin County.
If you can't come and help search don't run down those of us that feel compeled to. And Chandraphi feel free to come search anytime just let someone know where you are for your own sfety. And with that statement I don't mean safety from locals I promish you we will treat you and anyone else with the most respect and kindness you will find anywhere.
Ok my friends I am through Pick this post to death and have fun with it.
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Concerned -

Two points.

1. Gosh - I had no idea that guns were fired. I hope someone was detained by police for such a harassing and illegal action. In this country, firing a gun PERIOD is use of deadly weapon to threaten or harm and I don't know any state where that is legal and no law enforcement worth his salt should ignore/overlook such a blatant disrespect.

That being said - I HAD NO IDEA... HEAVENS, I DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE INTO A LIONS DEN!

Are you sure the command center "disavowed" CHAL? I am completely confused why this would happen.

2. Did I read that right and you and some people are driving down from Atlanta to help do your own searches with the right sort of backup because of safety?

This whole matter I thought was one of bullies on a message board. It is an entirely different thing if there is some sort of in your face intimidation.

And it sounds from your post it came from those who organized and carried out the search? Is this right?
The gun thing was reported last week. Searchers reported a man with a red dog and a "AK47" type weapon. Firings were heard at least a hundred times by searchers. No, we don't have an organized search from Atlanta.I am only concerned about Chalandrapi. As I feel she and Victoria were trying to do the right thing.I don't believe it is safe for individuals to search on their own right now. JMO.
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