Holy Cow - New CL Article

[fsbiii]

Now THIS is interesting reading!!

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...ons_mount.html

[concernedperson]

Holy Cow is right...LOL! Now amateur sleuths have upset the apple cart and family searching for a loved one are being considered for misdemeanor stalking. This is the biggest bunch of ---------. Fill in the blank as to what you think. Mine is expletive deleted.

[NancynNC]

This says a lot. Why wouldn't you want your property searched?


Harper's lawyer accuses searchers of stalking

[grandline]

And that camp wonders why there is so much speculation involving MH!

No need for us to add fuel to the fire, they are doing a pretty good job of raising eyebrows by themselves.

IMO, no one was stalking them. These searchers had the land owners permission to be on that land and I imagine they were out there in broad daylight. It's not like anyone was staking out houses in the middle of the night in ski masks and flashlights!

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you are innocent, then you should have nothing to hide!

Perhaps I am naive, but this is just not making any sense to me at all. Someting big has got to be going on...I have a feeling we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg.

[Atok]

The article on CL states something about a vehicle seen by a witness also seen on land surrounding MH's home...

What vehicle are they referring to? Is it one identifiable as MH's or someone from that family; or is it similar to the one burnt to a crisp, previously owned by ML??

[concernedperson]

The way the article was written it was a pick up truck spotted at Tara's house at 5 a.m. Sunday the 23rd and by a separate witness on tracks of land surrounding Marcus Harper's home. I believe Marcus Harper owns a pick up truck.

These tips were passed on to the sheriff but the sheriff didn't pass this on to GBI.

Back to the topic post, HOLY COW! I am just astounded at what's going on!

[concernedperson]

Ditto. Do you realize the apologists are few and far between. I saw an inkling earlier today but they are fizzling. Sort of crawling into their hole and hoping it doesn't effect them.LOL! It does and their lack of soul will follow them for the rest of their lives.

[NancynNC]

Originally posted by concernedperson
Ditto. Do you realize the apologists are few and far between. I saw an inkling earlier today but they are fizzling. Sort of crawling into their hole and hoping it doesn't effect them.LOL! It does and their lack of soul will follow them for the rest of their lives.

Seems like you stepped on someone's toes.

[Babes]

Originally posted by concernedperson
The way the article was written it was a pick up truck spotted at Tara's house at 5 a.m. Sunday the 23rd and by a separate witness on tracks of land surrounding Marcus Harper's home. I believe Marcus Harper owns a pick up truck.

These tips were passed on to the sheriff but the sheriff didn't pass this on to GBI.

There's a picture of MH's truck at Foxnews site. It is i believe a black pick up truck.

Now if GBI is incharge and the sheriff isnt passing informations then we are starting to see a wider problem.

Originally posted by Justice4Tara


And the good 'ole boys in Ocilla are on the Titanic...

:lol:

LMAO!!! or depending on how their boat sails they may wish they were when all is said and done

[sophiafox]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Now THIS is interesting reading!!

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...ons_mount.html

Pujadas said his client has no plans to file any charges, however. "Our position is that we don't want to stir the waters," he said. "I don't have a problem if they want to searchand all they (the Harper family) want is a law enforcement officer, an on-duty law enforcement officer to be involved in any search."

So does this mean that they can search MH and mother dear's property as long as they ask and obtain a law enforcement officer to go with them? The Lawyer was quoted and not having a problem so if he doesnt care then MH and mother shouldn't care. Anyone know someone in LE, you can trust, (sorry LE guys) that would go on a search with the family and their investigator?

Now that would be interesting! And can they take a look at the truck at the same time?

If I were innocent I would want 10 officers present during the search. If I were guilty...having searches without the watchful eyes of the law would make anything found questionable if I were to claim it was planted. IMOO

[BevAnn]

WHile I personally believe MH is guilty of having somethng to do with her disappearnce - I will say Lucky, you do raise a valid point. But I don't believe that's what they were thinking....but still, you bring up a good thought.

Bev Ann

[concernedperson]

Honestly some of what is being reported sounds like the old west and the authority there is overstepping bounds IMO. The sheriff doesn't have the right to prevent people from driving on public roads and telling searchers to go another way unless there is a danger in the roadway.

The thought of someone getting "accidently"shot if they found something of importence is chilling. It scares me for the searchers. Please tell me there is a large GBI presense in Ocilla now!

[gacountry]

Originally posted by GeneralLee


I see your view. With all due respect here, but if you are as close to Tara as you have presented yourself here, my dear, you ARE in the shoes of the many who have been accused. I'm sure this must be a very hard place to be emotionally at this time. Everyone close to Tara has been scrutinized and looked at. It's clear how some have conducted themselves and it's puzzling, to say the least. Wanting to be Open, inviting, but feeling terribly threatened, fearful?
Someone does feel these emotions. I'm sure of it.
I wonder who is feeling the squeeze? I sure hope all of this resolves itself soon. I'm afraid that out of that fear of being terribly threatened and fearful, more damage may be done to more innocent people.
I fear for anyone who gets close to unmasking the culprit.

OK what will it take to make you guys happY?
I have it figured out! We the people of Irwin County woke up one morning in Oct. and called a meeting we decided to sacrafice a young woman, here it gets a little fuzzy but you CTV whirl winds will add the ending to this I am sure
That is what you all are so good at, filling in the Facts You Want to be there. Regardless of what anyone tries to tell you just make it up to suit your fancy. Post the most outlandish off the wall "fact" you can think of and another loyal CTV "fact finder" will add to it. Sorta like that pretend game we use to play where you start a lie and it grows and grows.
Seeker and all my Irwin County friends we might as well just go turn ourselfs in to whatever or whoever these CTV folks wants us to because We Are Guilty by Fact of Living In Irwin County.

[longcoolwoman]

This week's Ocilla Star gives a whole 'nuther version of this story. Everyone should read it.

[NancynNC]

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori..._defended.html

Originally posted by Luckys_Wife
If I were innocent I would want 10 officers present during the search. If I were guilty...having searches without the watchful eyes of the law would make anything found questionable if I were to claim it was planted. IMOO

I want to be clear that what I wrote last night does not mean that I think MH is innocent. I simply don't know. I was trying to put myself in thier (MH and his mother)shoes (so-to-speak). Im sure she believes her son to be innocent, and Im sure she knows alot of people think he is responsible. Not all people believe in the truth and not everyone will do the right thing. The FBI should be called in to search this property, their is too much at risk to allow anyone else the power to ruin a mans life if he's innocent or worse...let a guily man go free because someone hurt the investigation by planting eveidence. Taras family should consider not letting anyone besides the FBI search that property!
IMOO

[Saunterer]

Originally posted by longcoolwoman
This week's Ocilla Star gives a whole 'nuther version of this story. Everyone should read it.

Good to hear from you again lcw! What's in the Ocilla Star this week?

The Ocilla Star Article reads basically the same as the Tifton paper with the exception of the person walking down the road with his dog and gun. During the time the report was made, the paper states that Marcus was at the station. He could not have possibly been walking down the road with an "AK-47. "After questioning a neighbor, Virgil Purvis, who was wearing the same clothing reported, it was discovered he had been walking one of his bulldogs while carrying a M-4 carbin rifle." Which in not uncommon in the backwoods where rattlesnakes, bears, and wolves run wild.
Sergeant Champion's quote in the paper" we have the man's (Purvis) statement that it was him walking on the road."
Sgt. Champion reported in the paper that she was under the carport of Mrs. Redman's home during the search and was "not aware of close gunfire by anyone including Harper the entire time she was present Sunday." " I was sitting right there under the carport and we heard gunfire throught the day, but nothing was close to us at all."
Mr. Gattis, IMOO probably spooked Mrs. Redman and Mr. Harper.... All the land surrounding their home and the land adjacent has been searched, re-searched, and looked over again, with the willingness of Mrs. REdman and Mr. Harper. Larry G is the only one who has failed a lie detector test and they along with many others in this small town are curious as to what he may have to hide. We are all entitled to our opinions, but it's very hurtful when bits and pieces of what needs to be told is used to destroy others. The goal is to find Tara, not to hurt others in the process.

[Saunterer]

Thanks suzee! I look forward to reading the article if it gets posted online. Hearing different sides to a story helps those of us who are not local to get a better perspective on events.

I see in last week's Ocilla Star that the commissioners will hold a County Town Hall Meeting this Saturday, March 18 (10 a.m.), at the Mystic Park. I don't know what's on the agenda, but it might be a good opportunity for local citizens and officials to voice any concerns ... and for the commissioners to "clear the air". JMO

http://www.theocillastar.com/

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by Saunterer
Good to hear from you again lcw! What's in the Ocilla Star this week?

Hi Saunterer. I guess I can keep my big mouth shut for only so long.

The article says a deputy asked M to come to the station to talk to her, and while he was there the call came in from a member of the search team that M was walking around with an AK-47 and they were concerned. It quotes the deputy as saying:

"The report indicated that he was walking down the road wearing blue jeans and a blue tank top, walking two bulldogs and carrying a AK-47. But my thoughts were how could this be H when I am here talking to him?"

The deputy questioned a neighbor who said he had been walking his bulldog and carrying a M-4 carbine rifle. She states:

"We have the man's statement that it was him walking on the road at this time."

Re the harassment complaint, the deputy "indicated that she personally witnessed this behavior from the searchers seeming to provoke H and his mother." She says:

"If they had been actually searching, then there would not have been a problem, but I visually witnessed what the searchers were doing, riding by and waving every so often."

I'll try to post more later.

[Saunterer]

Thanks lcw ... but what a lovely mouth it is (don't tell longcoolman I said that).

On "Catherine Crier" this evening, AG and Dr. Godwin countered the Ocilla Star account about Virgil. Hard to know what to believe. But one thing seems certain ... all of this posturing and chest-drumming just saps energy away from the obviously monumental task of finding Tara .... IMHO

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by Saunterer
Thanks lcw ... but what a lovely mouth it is (don't tell longcoolman I said that).

On "Catherine Crier" this evening, AG and Dr. Godwin countered the Ocilla Star account about Virgil. Hard to know what to believe. But one thing seems certain ... all of this posturing and chest-drumming just saps energy away from the obviously monumental task of finding Tara .... IMHO

I agree completely.

ps: I won't tell!

[concernedperson]

I have a feeling that the monumental task of finding Tara is being hindered. I believe she is very close at hand. I believe that certain people don't want her found.I want her found and I want the person or persons responsible brought to justice. JMO.

I really don't care about whose feelings are hurt if they had anything to do with Tara's disappearance. They can deal with our maker on the justification.

[Saunterer]

Originally posted by Sassy
Excuse me, but the first posturing and chest-drumming I remember came from MH on Greta very early on in the scheme of things. So one camp is no different from the other.....it seems.....only one is in extreme pain after losing a loved one and the other is not....... And you are right......it is certainly "hard to know what to believe."

JMOO - Well I was speaking about the events of the last four days in particular. But now that you mentioned it, I seem to recall that AG made some not-so-subtle remark when MH was first questioned by police (pre-Greta), which prompted him to lawyer-up.

Look, I understand where AG is coming from but I have no idea what happened to Tara. If I were in Georgia last weekend, I would likely have been right there with her group searching. But we who are not there rely on what gets posted/published. Why are there two completely different accounts of the same events?

Originally posted by concernedperson
I have a feeling that the monumental task of finding Tara is being hindered. I believe she is very close at hand. I believe that certain people don't want her found. I want her found and I want the person or persons responsible brought to justice. JMO.

I really don't care about whose feelings are hurt if they had anything to do with Tara's disappearance. They can deal with our maker on the justification.

JMO - I think everyone wants Tara found and, if she's been harmed, the guilty person punished. But how was that end served last weekend (whichever "camp" was at fault)? And what about the damage to innocent people. Or are you ready to string the sheriff up right beside MH and his mother and be done with it?

[concernedperson]

That is just not fair. I have no other agenda than to see that Tara is brought home and her perps are brought to justice. I have no allegiance to anyone from the area. I post here because I care about Tara. Please check me out. I am a regular poster at Websleuths. I have repeatedly been a victims's advocate. My post count will verify everything I say. I will not be vilified when all I want to do is help. My opinions are my own, you can choose to listen or discredit. But, apparently, others do listen.

[concernedperson]

I have emailed Nancy again. Will keep doing so.

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by Justice4Tara


What a coincidence that once again MH's only alibi is someone in LE. Consider the source, and be patient. The truth will come out. That story would have been better served in the National Enquirer.

And one more question. Is there any reason MH's mother's statement should be more credible than the observations of over 2 dozen other people? Hmmm? After all, she has someone to protect.

Are you saying that MH's mother, the deputy, AND the Ocilla Star reporter are all lying? That I should take the word of a group of people who would deliberately harass a person who isn't even a suspect just because they feel he is guilty of something?

I might add that the deputy in question is a female, married with a couple of small children. I really doubt she's a member of the "Good ol' boys society".

So give me some names. PM me with them if you want. Give me the names of the "witnesses" who saw M walking down the road with a couple of bulldogs (borrowed, I assume, since he doesn't own a bulldog) and let me ask them myself.

[mooloo]

BAM!

Thanks, LCW. You hit the nail on the head.

There is one person in that group who cannot get the facts straight OR rearranges them to suit the audience.

'nuff said.

Originally posted by longcoolwoman


Are you saying that MH's mother, the deputy, AND the Ocilla Star reporter are all lying? That I should take the word of a group of people who would deliberately harass a person who isn't even a suspect just because they feel he is guilty of something?

I might add that the deputy in question is a female, married with a couple of small children. I really doubt she's a member of the "Good ol' boys society".

So give me some names. PM me with them if you want. Give me the names of the "witnesses" who saw M walking down the road with a couple of bulldogs (borrowed, I assume, since he doesn't own a bulldog) and let me ask them myself.

[concernedperson]

I just re-read the article written by Summer and it states that the searchers saw a man walking with a large red dog and carrying an "AK47" type rifle.

No two bulldogs...one large red dog.

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by concernedperson
I just re-read the article written by Summer and it states that the searchers saw a man walking with a large red dog and carrying an "AK47" type rifle.

No two bulldogs...one large red dog.

Oh goody. Another inconsistency. The Ocilla Star states "two bulldogs".

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by longcoolwoman


Oh goody. Another inconsistency. The Ocilla Star states "two bulldogs".

This is the Ocilla Star from yesterday and I couldn't find anything about two bulldogs.

http://www.theocillastar.com/

[grandline]

FWIW, I am an Irwin County native and I too have carried a gun (for safety purposes) while walking my dogs in wooded areas. You never know what might happen...rattlesnakes, attack by a "rabid" animal, etc. The key is being prepared, I think that just comes with the territory in the "country".

[NancynNC]

Originally posted by concernedperson


This is the Ocilla Star from yesterday and I couldn't find anything about two bulldogs.

http://www.theocillastar.com/

Nothing mentioned about Sunday. Swept under a rug.

[NancynNC]

Originally posted by seekeroftruth
The entire paper is not published online. No incentive to buy a copy if it was.

I wouldn't consider that swept under the rug. They printed it didn't they?

Maybe someone would be so kind as to retype the article as it was written and post it for you. I'd do it for you but I don't have a copy.

Thanks seeker, I would buy a copy if I could.

[longcoolwoman]

I scanned the article to an Acrobat format this afternoon. I'll be glad to email it to anyone who wants to PM me an email addy.

[concernedperson]

I trust your info. I was one of the ones who questioned the two bulldog thing. When I had read about one red dog.I have asked Nancy Grace to get involved as I think not all info is forthcoming. I have no idea if she will pursue this or not. But I hope she does.

[Rick Karon]

Dr. Godwin should have been called in from the start.