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Old 03-10-2006, 02:14 AM
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Detective Barrs

Where does Detective Bill Barrs ( in-charge of Tara's case) report?.... to Sgt Sean Fletcher?

Is this detective a friend of MH ? ( Just wonderin')
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Old 03-10-2006, 10:33 AM
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Re: Detective Barrs

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Where does Detective Bill Barrs ( in-charge of Tara's case) report?.... to Sgt Sean Fletcher?

Is this detective a friend of MH ? ( Just wonderin')
Sergeant Bill Barrs, Detective, Criminal Investigation Division, Ocilla PD:

http://www.ocillapolice.com/opdlist/contacts.html

MOO - Det. Barrs reports to Chief Hancock. I thought SF, and (formerly) MH were police officers (unranked).
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Old 03-10-2006, 11:11 AM
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Sergeant Bill Barrs, Detective, Criminal Investigation Division, Ocilla PD:

http://www.ocillapolice.com/opdlist/contacts.html

MOO - Det. Barrs reports to Chief Hancock. I thought SF, and (formerly) MH were police officers (unranked).
It just seems that a conflict of interest exist in this arrangement. IMO it should be a totally different agency involved as lead investigator since all the players are interwined.
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Old 03-10-2006, 12:44 PM
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It just seems that a conflict of interest exist in this arrangement. IMO it should be a totally different agency involved as lead investigator since all the players are interwined.
MOO - Isn't that one reason why the GBI became involved in this case early on? If someone in local LE might be connected to TG's disappearance, who else is there to investigate than the GBI?

There are no investigative reporters working the case. A private detective might not get past local LE's "front door". One wonders how far Dr. Godwin (former PO from NC, presently in Ocilla) may get "inside" the TG investigation.

Neither the local LE or the GBI are saying what they've found out so far. But I personally do not believe anyone in LE would protect a bad cop. I pray that someone is able to solve this mystery soon.
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Old 03-10-2006, 01:57 PM
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The way it is set up the lead detective is Barrs. All tips etc. go through him, right? GBI seems to be an overseeing presense but of course I don't know for sure. They could be handling it in its entirety.

The one good thing about Godwin is that he will call attention to the case even if he can't get inside the investigation. This could mean someone would feel more comfortable giving him tips vs. local LE or GBI. More of a neutral person. When he profiled the Louisiana Serial Killer case it increased nationwide interest and it got people hopping a little more.

The interesting thing about that profile is that only one serial killer was suspected by the public but there was actually two operating in the area with different mo's. He was a little off on the public known serial killer but was right on about the unknown serial killer as far as their home base of operation.
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:01 AM
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From DARE officer in the school system to lead detective.....

This thread is old but I am adding this reply so that some of the non--locals can see that our Lead Detective was formerly the D.A.R.E officer for the schools. I have been questioned about my lack of faith in local LE and this is a prime example of why. For Tara's sake, could we not have at least done better than this....

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Old 03-28-2006, 07:02 AM
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Almost like not wanting to solve something....



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Old 03-28-2006, 07:40 AM
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Det. Barrs

OK...I've been a "reader" for a long time, and never a "poster"... but here goes. BenHill.... just a comment/question.

You state that Det. Barrs is the DARE Officer, and, IF I am understanding your point, you question why he is lead detective, if he is/was "just" the DARE Officer?

I need to understand first, you are saying he is the DARE Officer, not the SRO (School Resource Officer), correct?

I used to work in LE, and the DARE Officer where I worked WAS a Detective. DARE only took part of his time. He was top notch. In fact, he is now a Police Chief. I would assume that a detective in that community would not have a full time load being a detective, and could serve as DARE Officer too?

I should clarify I know none of the people in this case, and I am just "wondering out loud".
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:40 AM
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Image of Det. Barrs:
http://www.ocillapolice.com/img/dare4.jpg

A couple of months ago I was told that he was no longer the the detective on the case. I do not know that for certainty. His name is still on the flyer linked off the OPD website, but his name is not on the contact section on findtara.com.

I also THINK that a spouse of someone in OPD was on the messageboards defending a certain POI. If that is true, talk about a conflict of interest.... yowza.
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:12 AM
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Re: Det. Barrs

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OK...I've been a "reader" for a long time, and never a "poster"... but here goes. BenHill.... just a comment/question.

You state that Det. Barrs is the DARE Officer, and, IF I am understanding your point, you question why he is lead detective, if he is/was "just" the DARE Officer?

I need to understand first, you are saying he is the DARE Officer, not the SRO (School Resource Officer), correct?

I used to work in LE, and the DARE Officer where I worked WAS a Detective. DARE only took part of his time. He was top notch. In fact, he is now a Police Chief. I would assume that a detective in that community would not have a full time load being a detective, and could serve as DARE Officer too?

I should clarify I know none of the people in this case, and I am just "wondering out loud".
Thanks.
In no way did I mean to insinuate any thing other than the fact that to me, even in this small town community, I would think someone with more experience would have been placed in charge of this important investigation. Det. Barrs could very well have been placed in that position by those who really don't want this solved. In my opinion there are those in LE that wish this would go away so what better way to foul up an investigation than to place someone like Det. Barrs in the position. Then...when it all falls apart or becomes a cold case what better person to place the blame on than the cop who was the DARE officer...JMHO


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Old 03-28-2006, 10:13 AM
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Image of Det. Barrs:
http://www.ocillapolice.com/img/dare4.jpg

A couple of months ago I was told that he was no longer the the detective on the case. I do not know that for certainty. His name is still on the flyer linked off the OPD website, but his name is not on the contact section on findtara.com.

I also THINK that a spouse of someone in OPD was on the messageboards defending a certain POI. If that is true, talk about a conflict of interest.... yowza.
MANY conflicts of interest out there....MANY!
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:57 AM
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Wishful thinking....

A press conference from the sheriff would have been nice but we all know he isn't too keen on giving those...may step on too many toes or not be able to answer the ?? directed at him without first checking to see what his answers should be from the people who pull all those strings.

I think you are right....The direction of this investigation was fumbled from the start...too many indians...no chiefs...is something wrong with that???
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Old 03-28-2006, 12:13 PM
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Small horse town...

is what I would use to describe Ocilla. It takes 10 minutes to get there from Fitzgerald. They have very few red lights...maybe two now...I may head that way and count them...they have more LE than red lights. Does that help?
As for Det. Barrs being the sr. I can't answer that.
I am under the impression that perhaps the FBI is already involved and it just hasn't been made very public. Woudn't want to upset the apple cart too much ahead of time and admitting that the FBI was involved would turn heads in Ocilla.


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Old 03-28-2006, 01:14 PM
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We all have opinions and we all have questions, BUT to say the chief, LE, city gov. and neighbor all in a cover-up is not rational.
I do not think any of these would protect a killer. IMO
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Old 03-28-2006, 02:05 PM
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I hope and pray there is not a cover up going on. But if there is I do hope all that is involved goes down.
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Old 03-28-2006, 02:36 PM
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It is human nature to give your family, friends, co-workers the benefit of doubt. We have seen it in almost every case here at CTV. But if there is hard evidence and a body is found, things will change. Sometimes the family never sees it as truth.
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:03 PM
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General Lee's concerns....

are not off the mark too much if you ask me...But no one is asking but I am telling you that in my opinion only I have wanted to ask Mr. Portier many times why if he was such a great neighbor to Tara (examples included in General Lee's post) did he NOT put forth much effort to check on her when HD and Miss Faye were concerned....unless...and this is speculation only....he knows more than he has said. JMHO....but he went beyond the call of "duty" when it wasn't necessary but when it seems important he goes to sleep. What the heck???

I am local and I am more than convinced that cover-ups do exist...maybe Ocilla is exempt from such terrible things but I know Fitzgerald sure isn't.


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Old 03-28-2006, 05:02 PM
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If thier are people in this local LE or the GBI that are covering for someone.....I would think that it is more likely they would cover for HD being that he obviously is in a position of power and probably better connected to the right people. MH is a former police officer.....therefore not "in the brotherhood". He may still have friends on the force but as far as I've heard.....none that are in a position of power. If someone is covering for him (MH) then its most likely a friend of his....that happens to be LE. Then the cover-up probably doesn't go beyond that. If a cover-up involving several people on different levels then I would assume the person being protected is more likely HD. Because of his position. All just my Opinion!
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:29 PM
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Another thing....why would HD say that Tara was in danger, yet he didn't advise her to go stay with family or a friend? Danger from who? Who is he implying she was afraid of.....MH?

From the things that have come to light in the last few days , its my opinion that HD and Tara were more than friends, and if its true she did visit MH and she was very distraught maybe she was feeling guilty about the relationship, and actualy confided in MH about the whole thing. It is possible that HD is responsible for Taras dissapearance and setting MH up to take the fall. It was HD that called her 20 times.....it was HD that drove all the way to her home in the middle of the night, it was also HD that phoned her mother when he couldn't reach her....after 1 day. Most people would assume a friend was out or away for the weekend...how did he know for sure something was wrong? Why then if he knew he didn't break the door down to check on her...or immediatly call her landlord for a key? Maybe he called Faye because he needed an alibi for why his car was in front of her home...she can now confirm he was there to help......or so he claims. IMOO
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:36 PM
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Even though we don't know what she was scared of....

HD did know and it most certainly wasn't MH just because of a break up or a harrassing situation with an ex-boyfriend. We are not all privy to the facts that surround this case but IMHO HD was around as the lone ranger in a pack of wolves.
Only in my opinion, but for me HD was perhaps on "duty" so to speak.
I have my own theories about what HD was doing with Tara and they most definitely are not associated with any thing other than taking care of the issues they may have arisen due to things we are not aware of at this time.
It will all come out once the perps are arrested.
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:47 PM
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Trouble with that, Lucky- is HD worked in the City of PERRY Police Force in HOUSTON COUNTY (I think)about 90 minutes from IRWIN COUNTY. Being a Captain in Perry meant nothing in Ocilla -his position of power did not stretch to the tiny town of Ocilla. And Tara was the exgirlfriend of an Ocilla Policeman.

So the fact that some on the force might have met or knew HD through Tara, he was not in their chain of command at all. So Lucy - why would anyone in Ocilla care to protect HD?
I was under the impression that they all protect each other...not just their co-workers in the same department. I am not a police officer so Im not familar with how they interact with other police departments or if they all go to the same acadamy or seminars. But I believe it was said that HD was friends with the GBI officer in this case.....?
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Good to know certain people....

and just if he did happen to be friends with the GBI agent involved perhaps that is a very GOOD thing in this particular situation. That goes right along with my theory about why HD was there and why he made the statements he did in the VERY beginning...Sometimes being the lone ranger is such a difficult job but I am sure it is worth it in the end and the connection with the GBI..if any...would serve very valuable in this particular situation...
I kind of liken it to IA within law enforcement organizations....some one always has to be on the good side of the law...it just may be a little harder to recognize the good ones.

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Old 03-28-2006, 05:56 PM
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Re: Even though we don't know what she was scared of....

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HD did know and it most certainly wasn't MH just because of a break up or a harrassing situation with an ex-boyfriend. We are not all privy to the facts that surround this case but IMHO HD was around as the lone ranger in a pack of wolves.
Only in my opinion, but for me HD was perhaps on "duty" so to speak.
I have my own theories about what HD was doing with Tara and they most definitely are not associated with any thing other than taking care of the issues they may have arisen due to things we are not aware of at this time.
It will all come out once the perps are arrested.
Was Tara an informant?
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and just if he did happen to be friends with the GBI agent involved perhaps that is a very GOOD thing in this particular situation. That goes right along with my theory about why HD was there and why he made the statements he did in the VERY beginning...Sometimes being the lone ranger is such a difficult job but I am sure it is worth it in the end and the connection with the GBI..if any...would serve very valuable in this particular situation...
I kind of liken it to IA within law enforcement organizations....some one always has to be on the good side of the law...it just may be a little harder to recognize the good ones.

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Good post. The whole thing is to discover Tara and the rest will fall into place. They have tons of leads IMO but they need to show a crime was committed. Once this occurs everyone will all speak at once.
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Christ on a raft, now Faye is conspiring. I am just going to leave tonight and I know the people with real info will PM me. Have fun all you loony tunes.
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GREAT POST, Luckys_Wife. These have been my thoughts since I entered this forum.

The most startling aspect is that HD's presence outside Tara's house in *the middle of all this* only came to light after momths of 'investigation' - and that's when Dr. Godwin came into the picture and checked tower phone records.

Only THEN... did the world discover HD was right there, having driven 90 miles cross-county in the middle of the night. 20 calls with no reply is highly questionable.

People now seem to WANT JP to be irresponsible for not getting up and banging on the door when Faye called him. BUT - it was HD right outside T's house who called Faye. And Faye was not alarmed, she just asked JP to check all was OK. HE was the one who was awake and could have banged on her door. But no ... some people say:

"He had his reasons." Yet, in the same breath, there are some questioning MR. P (neighbour) for not doing the exact same thing? The double standards, cover-ups and denial reek so strongly that one is forced to revisit FACTS as opposed to HEARSAY.

Facts put HD right outside Tara's door. Facts put it that HD never mentioned a WORD about this until DR. G placed his mobile phone right there, at 12:15.

And - exactly. The only person who claims Tara told him she was in 'real danger' was HD. Well, knowing 'all this' he sure did absolutely nothing about it. Instead, he slipped off into the night and drove 90 mile home - and never uttered a single word about his midnight adventure.

Maybe he left his card in the door next day as a ruse? Maybe he arrived for a midnight 'rendezvous' and - realizing only THEN there was 'grave danger' decided to bolt before he was implicated in anything and his affair revealed...

I'm so with you on this one, Luckys_Wife. Thanks!


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Another thing....why would HD say that Tara was in danger, yet he didn't advise her to go stay with family or a friend? Danger from who? Who is he implying she was afraid of.....MH?

From the things that have come to light in the last few days , its my opinion that HD and Tara were more than friends, and if its true she did visit MH and she was very distraught maybe she was feeling guilty about the relationship, and actualy confided in MH about the whole thing. It is possible that HD is responsible for Taras dissapearance and setting MH up to take the fall. It was HD that called her 20 times.....it was HD that drove all the way to her home in the middle of the night, it was also HD that phoned her mother when he couldn't reach her....after 1 day. Most people would assume a friend was out or away for the weekend...how did he know for sure something was wrong? Why then if he knew he didn't break the door down to check on her...or immediatly call her landlord for a key? Maybe he called Faye because he needed an alibi for why his car was in front of her home...she can now confirm he was there to help......or so he claims. IMOO
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Excellent observation, GenL.

Let's try this one on for size: how about that HD misled Faye on that call - did NOT tell her was right outside T's door? She said he didn't sound alarmed. Maybe he simply said "She hasn't been taking my calls" which is why Faye said she'd call JP.

Well, blow me down, HD was right outside JP's house, too. WHY wake a sleepy neighbour when he could have gone and banged that door himself? ESPECIALLY after being 'the only one' Tara told she was in 'real danger'. Why didn't she tell her best friends, her mom, her sister - her colleagues?

Don't forget, Dr. G discovered HD's presence outside Tara's house that night.

And, DESPITE being this number 1 police Captain - you'd have thought HD would have told investigators what he saw. In my mind, that's obstruction of justice! So what's with that? He MISLED the investigation from day 1.

Because he told no-one. If that were the case, the questions you and many others ask, would not be asked now.

And, for what it's worth - it was immediately AFTER the latest report from Dr. G about the phone records and HD's 'position' at 12:15 that Dr. G received the death threat. That may be entirely conincidental, but it sure made ME think!

This is getting uglier and uglier. And the towns-folk don't like the facts - they're all talking FOR HD. They're all offering THEIR reasons and stating these as HD's.

HD pure as the driven snow?

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When someone asks you a question and you do not give the WHOLE truth about the information you are giving, you are being deceptive.

We did not find out about what PROMPTED Faye to call the neighbors UNTIL AFTER DR. GODWIN RELEASED THAT INFO.
She led us to believe that she was just worried and called, all on her own....leaving out the part about HD calling her from Tara's driveway, concerned. It was THEN that she phoned the neighbors. Am I wrong????? Correct me if I am, by all means!

There were several opportunities to tell that part when interviewed by NATIONAL MEDIA. Why leave it out?

I think the "left out" parts are precisely the hold up.

IMO, again, we were deceived.
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You don't think Tara's mom knew HD was there? I just assumed she did, and that LE did too. Just not the public.

I imagine he called Tara all day, then called her mom to ask if Tara was over there. Tara's mom told him no, she had been trying to reach her all day too. So HD said he'd go over to check when he finished his shift, knowing Tara had been getting some threatening calls. He goes over there, and the car is in the carport, but she doesn't answer the door. It's late, though, so he doesn't want to knock TOO loud, in case she's asleep. He calls Tara's mom. She says she'll call the neighbors, since they look out for Tara. She downplays her concern, though, because she feels bad about calling so late. They tell her everything seems fine--they saw Tara go out Saturday, and the car is in the carport now. They offer to go over and check, but she says that's not necessary, knowing HD just did. She goes to bed somewhat reassured, but a little uneasy. HD leaves his card in the door, asking Tara to call him when she wakes up. The next morning Tara's mom calls the school. Tara's not in yet. Tara's mom explains the situation. When Tara still hasn't arrived by 8:50, they call the police. Just my take.
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If HD was really worried about Tara, I mean if he truly believed she was in danger he would have entered her home (IMO). If a family friend was the captain of a police department and he called me because he was concerned for my childs safety...in the middle of the night...I would be in a panic. Maybe faye knew about the relationship and assumed they were just having a lovers spat and Tara was ignoring him. She then calls the neighbors and ask if everything is ok next door, the neighbors then see HD car and desides not to bother her because she has company. They tell her everything looks fine.
They did not go check on Tara according to them because they did not want to disturb her...maybe they just didn't want to get involved! Does anyone know if HD is known to be violent or short tempered?
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Some good perspective IMO on HD and the current discussion.

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GREAT POST, Luckys_Wife. These have been my thoughts since I entered this forum.

The most startling aspect is that HD's presence outside Tara's house in *the middle of all this* only came to light after momths of 'investigation' - and that's when Dr. Godwin came into the picture and checked tower phone records.

Only THEN... did the world discover HD was right there, having driven 90 miles cross-county in the middle of the night. 20 calls with no reply is highly questionable.

People now seem to WANT JP to be irresponsible for not getting up and banging on the door when Faye called him. BUT - it was HD right outside T's house who called Faye. And Faye was not alarmed, she just asked JP to check all was OK. HE was the one who was awake and could have banged on her door. But no ... some people say:

"He had his reasons." Yet, in the same breath, there are some questioning MR. P (neighbour) for not doing the exact same thing? The double standards, cover-ups and denial reek so strongly that one is forced to revisit FACTS as opposed to HEARSAY.

Facts put HD right outside Tara's door. Facts put it that HD never mentioned a WORD about this until DR. G placed his mobile phone right there, at 12:15.

And - exactly. The only person who claims Tara told him she was in 'real danger' was HD. Well, knowing 'all this' he sure did absolutely nothing about it. Instead, he slipped off into the night and drove 90 mile home - and never uttered a single word about his midnight adventure.

Maybe he left his card in the door next day as a ruse? Maybe he arrived for a midnight 'rendezvous' and - realizing only THEN there was 'grave danger' decided to bolt before he was implicated in anything and his affair revealed...

I'm so with you on this one, Luckys_Wife. Thanks!

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Thank you fsbiii. I noticed how this poster says FACT several times on this HD phone call in the middle of the night and how it was a FACT HD kept it a secret. Very interesting. JMHO
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Pulled up GBI site's reference page for Tara

Two comments:

GBI's site -

http://www.ganet.org/gbi/missing/taragrinstead.html

STILL shows Det. Barrs as working this case

Never has changed- not the local Ocilla nonemergency phone number as the contact # and never a change as to who was in charge of FINDING TARA!

Agent Dominic Turner -

Anyone ever see him? Anyone know where Agent Turner worked in the GBI? Just really really curious what that guy looks like and what expertise he brought to this case!

Bill Barrs -

According to NBC producer who went to Ocilla to do a story on Tara, Tara was Bill Barrs FIRST missing person case.

Now Seamus McGraw says that 50+ GBI agents have worked this case.

Really makes me wonder about the caliber and veracity of the investigation...

I see contradictions and conflicts from the very beginning - and I am not alone.


Gotta ask -

IF Bill Barrs was no longer working Tara's case, why didn't any of the 50+ GBI agents who worked this case realize that their own website needed to be updated at the very least?

AND

Why do the GBI keep the local Ocilla PD phone number as the LONE contact number for tips on their website?

More confusion IMO.

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All that matters is that Taras picture is up, a number is there, the rest can be handled when their phone is picked up. I see nothing unusual about them not switching 50 different times.
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what difference does it make what agent turner looks like? really?

and who said that det. barrs is not still working the case? does the case have to be worked by only one person or one agency for that matter?

gbi is an assisting agency. that means they are assisting the ocilla pd and last i checked det barrs was the ocilla pd detective so he would be the detective on the case.

so what if this was det barrs first missing person case. there has to be a first for everyone and personally i hope it is his last.

i dont mean any offense but i just dont get the point of the post.
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And this is relevant for what purpose? Is he a new POI or DOI?



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You know what is interesting is the fact that posters want to know who posters are. They want to know what GBI looks like they are overly concerned with BBQ guests. This is nothing to Tara's case. How many forums have these dingbats posted on? None prior to this one..would be my guess.

When I was communicating with fluffies it was always about who it was that posted.I am like ...duh..but went with the flow. Glad I did now and sorry I was lied to so much but I am on healthier ground because of it.

It was setting up a junior high camp for the ins and outs. I have seen a lot of this. It is stupid. And the people that relish it are stupid too.

The issues surrounding this case are real. And someone has lost their life over it IMO. To continue to denigrate posters for discussion about this case raises more questions. I think they left junior high and went into crime.
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I am a bit foggy about some of what the immediate posters are referingl however, I will try to answer some of questions which appear to be directed my way.

Someone said the GBI was "assisting" with Tara's case. As I understand it, the GBI was called in by Chief Hancock to LEAD the investigation, not assist. There is a HUGE difference - I and others have tried and tried to explain the basics here. If the POIs of a case are LE and the departments involved are small - then in order for the investigation to draw the public's confidence and appear unbias (and able to be confidential) the usual protocol is to turn the case over to an independent or more senior investigative agency. Why some continue to refuse to see the obvious really confounds me. NO ONE IS SUGGESTING OR IMPLYING ANY ONE WORKING TARA'S CASE DID NOT DO THE BEST HE OR SHE COULD!

As to what talents/expertise Agent Turner has- well, he was assigned this case by the GBI. The GBI could have assigned any agent - call me what you want- I think it is relevant WHAT DIVISION TURNER worked BEFORE HE WAS ASSIGNED THIS CASE. If it were my family member, I would want a senior agent with a working knowledge of Southern GA, a good working relationship with FL and AL peers as well as a good track record with missing person cases. I would NOT want a green agent or one who was pulled from a division who really was trained to deal with other sorts of cases...

AND CALL ME REALLY OUT THERE- but I for one am USED to seeing TASK FORCES when missing persons occur. Considering the number of LE involved in this case, I don't find it odd at all to wonder what the lead investigators look like. We sort of know Det. Barrs resume right? But we haven't a clue about Agent Turner, do we? I and others are used to press conferences or news stories where there is ROUTINELY contact INFO FOR THE LEADING INVESTIGATORS, as well as qualifications/characteristics/talents/etc to help instill confidence from the public (and hopefully put the Fear of GOD in anyone who might have harmed Tara or know what happened to her). So for Tara's case, IMO, I have been waiting for 1 year for Agent Turner to ASK the public to contact HIM about Tara's case. That doesn't seem so over the top or odd to me. I NEVER SAID OR IMPLIED THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A ROTATION OF 50+ numbers, that would have been confusing and opened the door to a host of problems. To the contrary, I have always maintained I simply find it very ODD the GBI (even on their own website) has never included their own internal contact information for any and all who wish to contact someone OUTSIDE of the Ocilla GA about Tara's case, for whatever reason (there are some missing person cases where they DO include internal contact information). With over 50 new pair of eyes, as the GBI's spokesman likes to put it, working Tara's case, I just would have thought one would have realized before the anniversary of her disappearance there might be some benefit to including an inhouse GBI contact number for the lead GBI agent who worked/work this case -- maybe by so doing, that missing puzzle piece alluded to could be found.

JUST MOO, of course.

As to who attended a BBQ- I hold fast the hosts of the BBQ/dinnerparty/Cookout - whatever it was- are in an unique position. They (or was it only Missy Davis) were the last people to see Tara before she got in her car to head home, right?

They could let the world know if Tara was an invited guest or a friend who just popped in (as one on this board suggested a few months ago). They could set the record straight exactly where Tara's car was parked, when she arrived and when she left. They could also set the record straight whether Tara, if a guest, was to SOLO or whether a date was expected too.

I think all of those questions might help to cement Tara's timeline - and details like those could have a bearing on this case. Gee, maybe they or someone even saw Tara drive off going in a particular direction. Ocilla is tiny, she could have arrived at her home by going any number of ways. Maybe the specific route is important...

Figured I would clarify here since concerned carried over her concerns. FRESHWATER, for unknown reasons, destroyed the thread I began the anniversary of Tara's disappearance that explored the last comment Tara supposedly made to the host(s) as she left her friends home and headed to her own - GOING HOME TO WATCH THE PAGEANT VIDEO- that October 23rd Saturday night, 2005.

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the gbi is an assisting agency that is what they are. that alone explains half of your confusion right there.

someone else will have to tackle the other half.
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THE GBI are authorized to LEAD INVESTIGATIONS! Not going to pull the GACODES but here is confirmation from their own website:

http://www.ganet.org/gbi/idpnd.html

"Georgia Bureau of Investigation agents are authorized under the laws of the State of Georgia to conduct criminal investigations, make arrests, execute search warrants, seize property which is contraband, carry firearms, and detect or apprehend persons (in Georgia) violating the criminal laws of this state, any other state, or the United States.

Additionally, agents are empowered and authorized to:

Arrest any person or persons violating the criminal laws of this state on property owned by the state, its departments, bureaus, commissions, or authorities;..."

AS TO TARA'S CASE:

http://www.tiftongazette.com/siteSea...024214513.html


PER SENATOR JACK KINGSTON in Janurary 2006:

"There’s not a federal link at this point,” the congressman said. “Right now the FBI has offered assistance to the GBI, but the GBI is still in the lead.”

And this was NOT THE ONLY TIME THE GBI was noted AS BEING IN THE LEAD....

in February 2006 -

http://www.news4jax.com/news/6738725...s=jax&psp=news

"The GBI has assumed responsibility for the investigation, with help from the local police and sheriff's departments."

And just this month on the anniversary of Tara's disappearance --

http://www.tiftongazette.com/siteSea...293232604.html

“I am optimistic this case will be solved,” said GBI Special Agent in Charge Gary Rothwell with the Perry office. “I think this is a solvable case.”


The way I see it, the GBI DID at some point TAKE OVER THE LEAD in this case - if they were ONLY ASSISTING surely Senator Kingston would have understood and relayed this to the family and the public.

I know it is really confusing with Tara's case because the INVESTIGATORS were not holding news conferences or offering news releases to the public informing the public who was in charge when. (With many missing person cases, especially those close to statelines, a multi jurisdictional TASK FORCE will be formed early on).


IMO - it would be a positive move for the GBI webmaster to be on the same page with the GBI investigators working this case and the public. Might help someone in the know connect with someone working to solve Tara's disappearance.

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