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Babes · #1 11-02-2005, 09:44 PM

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had recently broken up with a boyfriend

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=4064765&nav=5kZQ

Who is this boyfriend? Does he have a great alibi that day? Hmmm they recently broke up? What's the reason of the break-up? Another man or woman involve? Is she pregnant? All we hear in the news was her pageant histories...IMO LE should provide more informations to find her.

Babes · #2 11-02-2005, 09:56 PM

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Tara Grinstead was troubled by two contentious relationships, one with her estranged long time boyfriend, and the other with a former student who had become almost obsessed with her,

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...tionships.html

Babes · #3 11-02-2005, 10:03 PM

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It is unclear when Grinstead and Harper last saw each other, although according to several witnesses, he was in the town of Fitzgerald on the night of Oct. 22, which was the night of the annual Sweet Potato Festival and beauty pageant that Grinstead had attended. According to authorities, Grinstead had left the pageant and gone to have dinner at the home of the former local school superintendent and his family. She was last seen around 11 p.m.

Ok Harper was in the area on October 22

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...tionships.html

#4 11-03-2005, 11:19 AM

OK, here's my theory...since we don't have much to go on. It's been reported that folks in town knew she had a new bf (or was seeing someone new), so maybe the old bf hears of it, gets insanely jealous, goes over to talk to her. Looks like small skirmish, with lamp being cracked and clock under the bed, but nothing major. So seems to me she knew the person because she let him get close enough to her.

Since there was no blood, etc. found in the house, at least that we know of, he must have either suffocated her, or took her out of the house alive. Maybe he talks her into going somewhere with him, so she takes her purse and keys.

But, here's one problem, neighbors saw or heard nothing...and they seem to be pretty involved (nosey, in a good way) neighbors. Not a car starting up late that night, voices, or anything unusual. If they always notice her light being on, I think they would be aware of any unusual activity.

So somehow, somebody got her out of the house, alive or dead, without anybody hearing anything. Of course, based in plenty of other cases, we know this can and does happen.

What do you all think?

#5 11-03-2005, 01:09 PM

Right now i'm not sure what i think of this case but i'm wondering could she have maybe run off by self?

#6 11-03-2005, 01:11 PM

sorry by herself.

Elle_Woods · #7 11-03-2005, 04:00 PM

I'm not so sure I would deem 9 months ago as 'recent'. Plus, from everything I've read, she was the one most distraught over the break-up..not the bf.

The person could have found a way to get into her house and been hiding out in her room.

If someone had come by to visit her and she voluntarily let them in, I wonder why the neighbors didn't notice anyone else there? Another car in the driveway, etc? Since they seem to know everything, down to when she turns her light on/off.

#8 11-03-2005, 05:12 PM

what's the scoop on the latex glove...I haven't heard anything about that?

concernedperson · #9 11-03-2005, 06:21 PM

From what I have read about this case she seemed a little upset that her relationship went south. It doesn't seem that this long term boyfriend felt the same way about her. Hence, the breakup.

Now, this young man with some sort of obsession with her is interesting. I heard he was banging on her door and the cops were called. Sounds like he wanted attention. Also sounds like she didn't want to give him the attention he required.This would be my prime suspect if I were a cop vs. an amateur. Also, I would delve further into her more recent romance with another cop, could be she wasn't as interested as he was. Just playing all the angles....don't know diddly squat.

Babes · #10 11-03-2005, 08:23 PM

Some witnesses said Harper is in the area that night as well ... will it be possible that Harper is probably already involve with another girl and Tara is fighting for it and the new found love of Harper is jealous of her and nagging Harper about Tara so Harper gets rid of her? Harper got a key also in the house.

If the former student is responsible for this then i would think he will leave a mark on the house...

What if the Policeman that Tara dated got jealous when he saw Harper that night in the event? Tara vanished without much informations left so responsible party is probably aware how to make someone disappear without any traces

Babes · #11 11-03-2005, 08:29 PM

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Tara's former boyfriend of six or so years, Marcus T. Harper, has declined interviews on the advice of his lawyer, according to his father, Larry.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...ublicity2.html

Now he got a lawyer

Babes · #12 11-03-2005, 08:34 PM

Hmmm just found out that Tara got a dog

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...publicity.html

Most likely this dog is in the backyard so if this is the case then anyone aside from Tara coming in the house will pass by the Door not unless of course the Dog knows that person...

#13 11-04-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by goldylocks
Right now i'm not sure what i think of this case but i'm wondering could she have maybe run off by self?

That runaway bride will haunt all missing women from now on.

to the runaway bride

concernedperson · #14 11-05-2005, 11:29 AM

I just read something over at scaredmonkeys that Tara's sister had recently learned of an argument over an 18 yr. old that Harper was dating. It appears Tara threatened to tell the girls parents. Blog caution applies of course but has anyone else heard about this?

#15 11-05-2005, 03:56 PM

wow-if that IS true then Harper would be a very big suspect in tara's disappearence. He has lawyered up and is not talking, was in the area that night. He has a key to her home, she would willingly go with him, he (if the story about him&18yo is true) has a motive, he has police and special service training to cover up a crime........................

also-the former student is another possibility. But somehow I feel he would have left telltale clues, sloppy scene at the house. Maybe he had someone call tara for help, tara left her home or went outside to assist a friend in need and was grabbed....................

current boyfriend? who knows, not much said about this guy. but that latex glove really is suspicious in regards to someone intent on covering up clues, someone like a person in law enforcement. Also, could have been an absolute stranger/stalker no one knows about. just my speculation. I hope and pray tara is found safe and quickly!

Babes · #16 11-06-2005, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by concernedperson
I just read something over at scaredmonkeys that Tara's sister had recently learned of an argument over an 18 yr. old that Harper was dating. It appears Tara threatened to tell the girls parents. Blog caution applies of course but has anyone else heard about this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...n1010700.shtml

Yes it is stated on the news at cbsnews and tara's sister said that

fsbiii · #17 11-06-2005, 10:14 AM

I agree. Getting a lawyer doesn't always mean "Guilty of something," it sometimes means "Help me before they crucify me!" Remember Richard Jewell and the Atlanta bombing?

As Tara's former b/f he was gonna be in the scope on this from the start, so I think he's playing it safe, especially if he's cooperating with questions, etc.

Has the alleged 18-year-old girl Harper was supposedly dating been asked any questions?

#18 11-06-2005, 10:50 AM

It was just my speculation on Harper retaining an attorney. He most likely did it for his protection, since he would naturally be the first person looked at.

dalma3604 · #19 11-07-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Adrienne37
Kvickers - are you from the area where Tara is missing from?

I was wondering the same thing. Kvickers are you close to the investigation/area/Tara?

#20 11-07-2005, 01:02 PM

what's wrong with him dating an 18 year old...she would be of legal age. Is she still in high school, that's why the rumor about telling her parents? That seems a little thin for a reason to commit murder.

#21 11-07-2005, 04:43 PM

Everyone is concerned and committed to finding Tara and it sad that all of this has happened, but honestly it is ridiculous how rumors become fact when a tragedy occurs.
About this 18 year old, Marcus was never "dating" her. She was interested in him and he never had a "relationship" with her. He is a good man who just happened to be part of Tara's past. Apparently Tara did get upset about this girl being interested in Marcus, but it was irrelevant when there was no relationship to be upset about. Marcus's life is very stressful and the way I see it he was just not ready to get married and there is no crime in that. It is better than getting trapped into an unhappy relationship that you just have to divorce your way out of later.
It is upsetting that people jump to conclusions without having all of the facts and only knowing half of the story.
Marcus is smart to have a lawyer, justice is not always perfect and innocent people have been wrongly imprisioned before. While it is rare, I understand and would want to protect myself and family as well.

fsbiii · #22 11-07-2005, 05:58 PM

I agree 100%, Joanne. For every fact there have been 25 rumors, but that's what happens in these situations, unfortunately. I believe a lot of people are trying to help analyze and speculate with what's out there, and it's not much. Hopefully something will break and lead us to Tara.

Babes · #23 11-07-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by joanne
Everyone is concerned and committed to finding Tara and it sad that all of this has happened, but honestly it is ridiculous how rumors become fact when a tragedy occurs.
About this 18 year old, Marcus was never "dating" her. She was interested in him and he never had a "relationship" with her. He is a good man who just happened to be part of Tara's past. Apparently Tara did get upset about this girl being interested in Marcus, but it was irrelevant when there was no relationship to be upset about. Marcus's life is very stressful and the way I see it he was just not ready to get married and there is no crime in that. It is better than getting trapped into an unhappy relationship that you just have to divorce your way out of later.
It is upsetting that people jump to conclusions without having all of the facts and only knowing half of the story.
Marcus is smart to have a lawyer, justice is not always perfect and innocent people have been wrongly imprisioned before. While it is rare, I understand and would want to protect myself and family as well.

So you mean to say that Anita was a liar? What is Marcus alibi that weekend? Where is this 18 years old on the time of Tara's Disappearance? People are really not jumping to conclusions what you see on the board are pure speculations . If Marcus has nothing to do with this then LE will tell. I wonder what's your proof that Marcus never dated an 18 year old girl? Are you with him the whole time?

#24 11-07-2005, 07:31 PM

Whooo turbo, no one at any point in time called anyone a liar. I merely stated that there was an 18 year old interested in Marcus and he did not share the sentiment, but Tara was still upset that anyone look in marcus's direction. They did discuss the girl but it was earlier this summer and he thought it was pointless since there was no relationship to discuss.
There is a possibility that Tara told her sister of this from her "point of view" which in the case of the 18 year old girl, may not have been complete factual hearsay.
It is ridiculous to ask if I am with Marcus every minute, so I guess you got me there. However does the fact that my husband has been with him since Mid-July to mid-sept literally every day pretty much every minute make you feel better? According to everything I have every heard about this relationship, marcus was sad to call it off, but he felt driven to serve our country rather than marry. He would never want anything bad to happen to her.

Babes · #25 11-07-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by joanne
Whooo turbo, no one at any point in time called anyone a liar. I merely stated that there was an 18 year old interested in Marcus and he did not share the sentiment, but Tara was still upset that anyone look in marcus's direction. They did discuss the girl but it was earlier this summer and he thought it was pointless since there was no relationship to discuss.
There is a possibility that Tara told her sister of this from her "point of view" which in the case of the 18 year old girl, may not have been complete factual hearsay.
It is ridiculous to ask if I am with Marcus every minute, so I guess you got me there. However does the fact that my husband has been with him since Mid-July to mid-sept literally every day pretty much every minute make you feel better? According to everything I have every heard about this relationship, marcus was sad to call it off, but he felt driven to serve our country rather than marry. He would never want anything bad to happen to her.

makes me feel better? lol why dont you go public and correct the media for this since the Media is starting to give Harper a bad name. Look anybody can post in this forum and say their husband is with him the whole time but since you want people to know the truth then i suggest to contact the Media or LE and tell themyour side. No one is going to believe you on this forum specially if you dont have any LINK at all LOL Ask the Moderator if she will allow factual informations on this board without providing a link. As far as i know Anita went public and you dont so Anita's words is more credible that you are. Nobody wants to put Harper in hot water and nobody wants to hear someone is responsible for this.As far as i know we want to hear Tara is alive and she left on her own and she's there somewhere.

#26 11-07-2005, 09:32 PM

I am not worried about people believing me, people can think whatever they want to. I just like to give another view point. I don't go public or to the media, because there is no "my side". Mr. Harper is taking care of things on his end and cooperating with authorities that is all he can do right now. I just feel compelled to defend him when he is compared to Scott Peterson.................who wouldn't?
I feel for her family and am praying for all of them. And hopefully it will turn out that she just needed time away or something harmless.

Babes · #27 11-07-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by joanne
I am not worried about people believing me, people can think whatever they want to. I just like to give another view point. I don't go public or to the media, because there is no "my side". Mr. Harper is taking care of things on his end and cooperating with authorities that is all he can do right now. I just feel compelled to defend him when he is compared to Scott Peterson.................who wouldn't?
I feel for her family and am praying for all of them. And hopefully it will turn out that she just needed time away or something harmless.

I understand your concern.
But your viewpoints comes with informations that can be treated as fact if it is proven like your husband is with him the whole time and you mentioned that Marcus was never dating this 18 year old woman. Gosh if i have a friend who is in trouble and i knew what is right then for all means ill be telling the whole world hey my friend never dated an 18 year old girl as being discussed publicly...But that's just me and everyone is different.

#28 11-07-2005, 09:48 PM

........and about the LINK thing, all of this is new to me and to be honest I have never been on a forum before due to lack of time. However I am concerned about this case since Mr. Harper is a friend of the family, so excuse me if I haven't correctly linked something, I will look into it and fix the problem asap.

Babes · #29 11-07-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by joanne
........and about the LINK thing, all of this is new to me and to be honest I have never been on a forum before due to lack of time. However I am concerned about this case since Mr. Harper is a friend of the family, so excuse me if I haven't correctly linked something, I will look into it and fix the problem asap.

Sure. We'll be here

#30 11-07-2005, 09:54 PM

If Marcus's lawyer thought that the 18 year old was relevant then that is why he gets paid the big bucks, to make those decisions, and he will instruct Mr. Harper to do so. However, Marcus is not being charged with anything therefore he has the right to leave his personal buisness and rumors about his personal buisness a mystery, and I suspect he will do so unless the authorities deem it necessary to make his personal life public record.

Babes · #31 11-07-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by joanne
If Marcus's lawyer thought that the 18 year old was relevant then that is why he gets paid the big bucks, to make those decisions, and he will instruct Mr. Harper to do so. However, Marcus is not being charged with anything therefore he has the right to leave his personal buisness and rumors about his personal buisness a mystery, and I suspect he will do so unless the authorities deem it necessary to make his personal life public record.

Marcus as a policeman should know what is the best thing to do

#32 11-07-2005, 10:39 PM

He did the right thing, have you even been watching Fox news?

Babes · #33 11-07-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by joanne
He did the right thing, have you even been watching Fox news?

Yes. Just couple minutes ago with Greta

#34 11-07-2005, 10:48 PM

Okay then please consider that interview my link, since it is roughly just a repeat of what I have said the entire night.

Babes · #35 11-08-2005, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by joanne
Okay then please consider that interview my link, since it is roughly just a repeat of what I have said the entire night.

Can you tell why he isnt facing the camera while talking?

#36 11-08-2005, 09:55 AM

I can only assume he is not facing the camera to do what he can to protect his security clearance which is related to his job.
I am sure it was a suggestion of his lawyer or company.

#37 11-08-2005, 10:01 AM

Does anyone know if the cops checked the trunk of her car? Might sound crazy, but I can't help but remember those three little boys somewhere up north who suffocated. Whenever people go missing, I always wonder why folks don't automatically check trunks of cars just in case.
Could be that someone hid out in Tara's house, suffocated her and stuffed her in her own trunk. That would take care of anyone finding her out there somewhere.
Just a guess.

#38 11-08-2005, 10:04 AM

No because there is no "trunk" it is a truck.

#39 11-08-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Hey Paula

Tara drove a truck?

Nope. They showed her car on Greta last night. Maybe joanne was referring to Harper's vehicle, thinking someone was suggesting he put her in his trunk.

#40 11-08-2005, 11:58 AM

I just noticed that Marcus Harper was a former Army Ranger. IMO he would be able to certainly know how and where to hide a body that would never be found...

Not saying that he is guilty, but he is certainly suspicious. MOO