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#1 10-26-2005, 09:55 AM

I still find the highly illegal statement odd.

Is the Kevin who made the reference to Taylor's statement the same Kevin as the Kevin rumored to be 1 of the 3 skaters that were with Taylor the night she disappeared? Did ya'll follow that horrible sentence?

I remember doing and saying things as a teenager to get attention or to appear off the chain, xtreme wild. I once put cold medicine in a clear container to make it look like coke, I left it in my car, and asked an employee to go to my car to get something for me. When he came back I was acting nervous and I questioned him about what he saw in my car. He said nothing. Is Taylor an only child? I am, and as an adult I can see that I was really doing crazy stuff because I wanted someone to care about me and say stop being so wild, you are beautiful, brilliant, etc.

So with all that said, if Taylor was sober and she made the statement Kevin reported, she may have just been trying to get Kevin to say "Taylor what are you going to do that is highly illegal? Do not do anything stupid. Taylor, you are too beautiful and brilliant to fu** up"!

I am doubting the idea that Taylor would agree to take kiddie porn pics for Ben at night in Mathews. When people started suggesting the kiddie porn picture theory I took my digital camera outside and tested it. The night was very dark, in the country, couple of street lights, no business in my area. The pictures close up of people were okay, my husband is not white, a lighter person would have been easier to see. The shots into emptiness were worthless, there had to be a solid structure in the background, or the person had to be close. Maybe if they were in one of the houses in Mathews there would be more flash.

UUURK.... Hit the brakes, and why would Taylor go all the way to Matthew's to do that when she had an apt. Ben had an apt. stocked with photo props, and everyone they knew had an apt. and hotels are cheap! It does not sound right, but I could be wrong.

LADY2NOW · #2 10-26-2005, 01:07 PM

Even if Taylor did say she was going to do something "highly illegal" as an early 18th B-day present, and she had something specific in mind, she certainly had no plans to do "it" (whatever "it" was) the night she disappeared. I also think that, given what we know about her personality and character, "it" probably was going to be something relatively benign (in the big scheme of things), albeit "illegal"--something like maybe getting a "doctored" drivers' license in order to: get a tattoo or body piercing (it's illegal in VA for someone to tattoo or perform body piercing on persons under age 18 unless done in the presence of the minor's parent or guardian); gain entry to clubs, etc. that card-at-the-door; buy beer....

protectkidz · #3 10-26-2005, 01:18 PM

Lady:

This is just my crazy mind at work, but there were two things I thought of when the "highly illegal" statement was released. Stealing license plates, or (JMO) burning down the barn of Ben's ex?

LADY2NOW · #4 10-26-2005, 02:29 PM

protectkidz--for some reason, just a gut feeling, I don't see Taylor doing anything really destructive. From everything I've read, she didn't seem to be that type of person. JMO. According to Kevin, she described the "highly illegal" thing as being an early birthday present, ie., something for herself. In Huff's interviews with BF's ex, Erin described Taylor as a nice person and I haven't gotten the feeling that Taylor felt any animosity towards Erin (although I'm sure that, if BF had the chance, he would have tried to nurture such feelings on Taylor's part--and anyone else's--for Erin).

protectkidz · #5 10-26-2005, 02:40 PM

I agree that Ben would have had to nurture adverse feelings for Erin in order for Taylor to take his side.

Not thinking that Taylor would've been destructive in a mean way - I kind of thought that Ben would've had to talk her into it, and she would've thought that it would be a harmless thing, without anyone getting hurt.

I guess I just can't think of anything else that she would consider "highly illegal", that would include Ben. Of course, she didn't tell Kevin that this thing she was going to do would include Ben.

The fake ID to get a tattoo is actually the best conclusion I have heard. I know that when I was 17, getting a fake ID would have seemed incredibly risky to me. And if I was 17, a tattoo would be an excellent 18th bday present.

LADY2NOW · #6 10-26-2005, 02:57 PM

That's just it--we don't know whether the "highly illegal" thing involved BF at all (we just seem to want to jump to that conclusion because we've learned so much about BF's criminal past). By all accounts (tho not BF's), Taylor had cooled toward BF though she contended that they were still friends. When I was 17, I couldn't wait to be 18 because the legal drinking age was then 18. Between ages 18-21, the legal age for hard liquor was raised to 21. The year I turned 21, the legal age for all alcoholic beverages was raised to 21. I felt lucky! We've heard that Taylor didn't do drugs or drink alcohol. But maybe she'd decided it was time to test the waters, so to speak, and she would just like to have been able to order a beer when out with friends. Also, self-expression is such a big thing nowadays with young people--yeah, a "tasteful" tattoo or a navel ring might have been on Taylor's mind as a fitting early b-day present. She'd have needed to lie about her age or have a fake ID to get either before her 18th b-day.

protectkidz · #7 10-26-2005, 03:14 PM

I'm pretty sure that the reason I and others have jumped to the conclusion that Taylor may be doing the "highly illegal" thing with Ben is because the statement came out when a bunch of other info re: her relationship with Ben did. Also, maybe it's lumped in people's minds with Ben because he seems like a natural accomplice for something illegal. Also, I had thought that Taylor told this to Kevin on the night she went missing.

Well, I guess we'll find out eventually what it was she was thinking about.

(when I was 17 I didn't have a hope of passing for 21, even with the best made fake ID!!!! lol)

LADY2NOW · #8 10-26-2005, 03:51 PM

protectkidz:

Did you see Marilyn B's article?
http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori..._is_known.html

Her roommate's account is what makes me think that Taylor was beginning to distance herself a bit from BF. If she'd begun to find him a bit creepy and knew how vengeful he could be (a la Erin), she might have decided to tread a bit carefully where he was concerned (by stating to others that they were "still friends", for instance. Why say anything nasty about someone you're figuring out is a bit loony and invite some of the same vitriolic hatred--and maybe violence--on yourself?). I've often wondered when she found out how old he really is. Was it before or after their sexual encounter in April? Was his age what made her "curious" to begin with, or was she repulsed later when she found out. Who knows?

Re Kevin and when Taylor made the statement about the "highly illegal" thing. For some reason, I thought she said that to him a couple of nights before she went missing, when she was skateboarding with him, but before she returned to Vienna to visit her family for the holiday weekend. But I could be wrong.

protectkidz · #9 10-26-2005, 04:18 PM

Lady:

I totally agree about Taylor distancing herself from him - I've been in that situation before and understand that survival instincts tell you to tread lightly so as not to let loose the beast.

Has it been confirmed that there was indeed a sexual experience? I know her mom stated that there was at one time. I always understood those journal postings (blah, blah girl who climbed into my bunk at 407...well, i was curious...i still am), to possibly imply that she was curious about what it would feel like to experience the "bondage bed", not that she necessarily had sex with him. (yuck)

I have to confess that I haven't read everything re: the case - especially since her funeral. I needed to back away a bit, but feel now that I'm ready to give this more thought.

I'll go over to the Crime Library and read the roommate's statement now.

Thanks for the link.

protectkidz · #10 10-26-2005, 04:22 PM

Okay - I see from Crime Library that it is confrimed that they had at least one sexual encounter.

LADY2NOW · #11 10-26-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by protectkidz
Okay - I see from Crime Library that it is confrimed that they had at least one sexual encounter.

Taylor probably decided that "once" was enough! Before entries in their LJ's were removed, I don't remember seeing anything in them that would indicate they had sex after that one time in April. Let's not forget that, when she arrived at VCU, she'd met "Jake", a fellow student, and had hopes that something would come of that. If she still had hopes after meeting him for dinner at the Village Cafe, why mess it up by going to BF for some "sexual reassurance"?

protectkidz · #12 10-26-2005, 05:18 PM

Exactly.

I totally agree that if she did indeed have sex with Ben the night of her death, it was not consensual.

#13 10-26-2005, 07:02 PM

I posted this lastnight in a dif thread but it seems to fit in this one pretty well also:

I still don’t put much faith in the “highly illegal” comment and her death having anything to do with each other. From what I remember, she had basically called it a night and went back to her dorm. That tells me that the act wasn’t planned for that night at all.

Do plans change? Of course. But for it to be birthday plans, I’d imagine whatever it was she was going to do would be much closer to the actual birthday.

During my “highly illegal” days while skateboarding - I would associate that comment more so with breaking into a place and skating or just skating in a public place that you aren’t suppose to be at.

Sometimes its easy to let your mind drift and think of something HUGE as the illegal act but in all honesty it could be something very simple that she just got hyper over the thought of. All of us have done that at one point or another.

I just don’t think that you associate much of anything sexual as "highly illegal" when you are underage yourself.

Too me its something very simple that got her very hyper. *shrugs*

#14 10-26-2005, 07:50 PM

I agree Mikey. I don't think the "highly illegal" thing was anything too highly illegal, really. At the age of 17, one tends to dramatize a lot of things that older people probably wouldn't even view as illegal. JMO.

LADY2NOW · #15 10-26-2005, 08:06 PM

spikeymikey and memap1965:

My point exactly. I doubt whether her comment and her death had anything to do with each other. If I keeled over tomorrow, from natural causes or not, would everything I'd said in the previous 48 hours lead to a conclusion about my death? I doubt it... Also, young people do tend to dramatise things. She wasn't a hardened criminal or even a jaded teen, so I'm thinking that whatever she was thinking of doing probably wouldn't have made it onto the 6:00 p.m. news.

#16 10-26-2005, 09:32 PM

I agree with you, as I don't believe the "highly illegal" statement had anything to do with sex, especially since 18 is the age of consent.

If Taylor was adventurous, that statement might have applied to her wanting to "car surf", an illegal and dangerous way to skateboard, while being towed by a vehicle.

IMO

#17 10-26-2005, 09:34 PM

when I think about something "Highly Illegal". I think of Cocane...Does Jesse know more than he's saying ? But then again I could be wrong because I dont know all the details. But I know the dog's traced a secent from Taylor's car to his house and they busted him with cocane. And thats "Highly Illegal".

Just a thought...

#18 10-26-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by PSN
when I think about something "Highly Illegal". I think of Cocane...Does Jesse know more than he's saying ? But then again I could be wrong because I dont know all the details. But I know the dog's traced a secent from Taylor's car to his house and they busted him with cocane. And thats "Highly Illegal".

Just a thought...

Those who knew Taylor have stated that she didn't take drugs or abuse alcohol. Her only vice, it is said, was smoking cigarettes.

#19 10-26-2005, 10:06 PM

It was just a thought. Like I said I dont know all the details, just putting bits and pieces together. I'm sure when the rest of the test come back, it will put a end to the guessing. But I dont believe the "Highly Illegal" thing had anyhing to do with sex. Or like alot of others has said ( if she even said she was going to do something highly illegal )

#20 10-26-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by PSN
It was just a thought. Like I said I dont know all the details, just putting bits and pieces together. I'm sure when the rest of the test come back, it will put a end to the guessing. But I dont believe the "Highly Illegal" thing had anyhing to do with sex. Or like alot of others has said ( if she even said she was going to do something highly illegal )

I'm beginning to seriously doubt Taylor ever said she was going to do something "highly illegal". Perhaps Kevin said thinking it would help Ben Fawley.

IMO

#21 10-26-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Hey Paula

I'm beginning to seriously doubt Taylor ever said she was going to do something "highly illegal". Perhaps Kevin said thinking it would help Ben Fawley.

IMO

Help Ben?

He stated this prior to Taylor's body being found.

There has been no evidence presented by anyone to show Kevin had ever met Ben prior to Ben coming to his place of work after Taylor went missing.

Do you seriously believe this guy just straight out lied to Marilyn to help a guy out that he didn't even know? And furthermore, help him out how?

I can't believe if something could possibly raise doubt regarding Ben's story, the people and/or evidence must be tainted or lying or something.

Why is it so difficult for some people to believe that she did indeed say that?

Nobody on this forum "knows" Taylor.

In fact, that's one thing Mike Cino has constantly griped about on his journal. How people are constantly saying what Taylor would or wouldn't do, or what Taylor would or wouldn't want. And none of those people knew her or knew what kind of thought processes went through her mind.

Sometimes it is what it is.

LADY2NOW · #22 10-27-2005, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by LADY2NOW
protectkidz:
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Re Kevin and when Taylor made the statement about the "highly illegal" thing. For some reason, I thought she said that to him a couple of nights before she went missing, when she was skateboarding with him, but before she returned to Vienna to visit her family for the holiday weekend. But I could be wrong.

Just went back and re-read Marilyn B's article where she interviewed Kevin. According to Kevin, Taylor told him about the "highly illegal" thing the night she disappeared. I wonder if it's something she thought of between the time she went skateboarding with Kevin and unnamed friend on 9/03 and when she returned from Vienna.

protectkidz · #23 10-27-2005, 10:26 AM

I think that's why I have it in my mind that she was going to do it with Ben. From what I remember, she spent some time with Ben after she got back from Vienna, but before she went to dinner (where I thought she had made that statement to Kevin).

I was trying to figure out how Ben could have gotten her to go to Mathews - that was how I tied the "highly illegal" thing to Ben and his vendetta against Erin.

I don't know - the tattoo theory sounds better now.

vedder · #24 10-27-2005, 12:25 PM

" From what I remember, she spent some time with Ben after she got back from Vienna, but before she went to dinner"

NO, NO...This is what Benny-boy SAID had happened...HIS say-so,no proof of this whatsoever....

He wants us to believe that as soon as she got back to school she ...
1.Ran strait back to his place to have sex
2.Than went to help Jake with his art project
3.Than went to dinner with him
4.Than ran back to his place again for MORE sex...

Come on...If this isn't TOTAL BS I dont know what is...

And remember HE said he walked her back at 9.30....HE DID NOT...Jake was the one who walked her back...

This story is STILL breaking my heart...

protectkidz · #25 10-27-2005, 12:55 PM

I guess at this time it's all about separating fact from fiction.

I agree, and also have a broken heart...

poplife · #26 10-27-2005, 01:47 PM

In my mind, it could have been made in jest as well. My girlfriends and I will joke using the word "illegal" if we are going to do something we shouldn't. I have a friend that says it when she is going to visit her ex or another that has said it when she's going to call a guy that dissed her. It's just an expression and I can see Taylor using it that way. JMO>

LADY2NOW · #27 10-27-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by poplife
In my mind, it could have been made in jest as well. My girlfriends and I will joke using the word "illegal" if we are going to do something we shouldn't. I have a friend that says it when she is going to visit her ex or another that has said it when she's going to call a guy that dissed her. It's just an expression and I can see Taylor using it that way. JMO>

Thanks for your take on the use of the word "illegal" among the younger crowd. I've never heard it used that way, but I'm getting on up there in years...

#28 10-27-2005, 04:51 PM

I'm starting to think the whole statement was made up by this Kevin guy.

If not, I would say maybe she did mean she was going to have nekkid pictures taken.

I don't think she went to Mathews county by consent.

I think Kevin was one of the skateboarders. Plus, she would have made that statement BEFORE returning to her dorm and finding her roomate/bf and saying she was going to leave them alone for a few hours, THEN she went missing. ie anything illegal she was going to do, would have been BEFORE she went back to her dorm.

#29 10-27-2005, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by poplife
In my mind, it could have been made in jest as well. My girlfriends and I will joke using the word "illegal" if we are going to do something we shouldn't. I have a friend that says it when she is going to visit her ex or another that has said it when she's going to call a guy that dissed her. It's just an expression and I can see Taylor using it that way. JMO>

Never knew that, thanks for that point! If that is the case, it could be any number of things that weren't "illegal". Heck, it could have been skateboarding in a "no skateboading" zone/park!?

#30 10-27-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by BFD - v2.0

Help Ben?

He stated this prior to Taylor's body being found.

There has been no evidence presented by anyone to show Kevin had ever met Ben prior to Ben coming to his place of work after Taylor went missing.

Do you seriously believe this guy just straight out lied to Marilyn to help a guy out that he didn't even know? And furthermore, help him out how?

I can't believe if something could possibly raise doubt regarding Ben's story, the people and/or evidence must be tainted or lying or something.

Why is it so difficult for some people to believe that she did indeed say that?

Nobody on this forum "knows" Taylor.

In fact, that's one thing Mike Cino has constantly griped about on his journal. How people are constantly saying what Taylor would or wouldn't do, or what Taylor would or wouldn't want. And none of those people knew her or knew what kind of thought processes went through her mind.

Sometimes it is what it is.

I confess to being ignorant re the relationship between Kevin and BF. I read, in one of the posts on this board, that Kevin was BF's friend and thought the poster knew that for a fact. Also, I wasn't aware of when Kevin made that statement, i.e., prior to Taylor's body having been found.

Was Taylor very friendly with BF? That is the kind of disclosure (confessing to wanting to do something "highly illegal") one would make only to someone they were extremely close with, IMO.

I'd like to learn more about Kevin, and his relationship with Taylor. I have questions that I hope to learn the answers to such as"

Did Kevin ever date Taylor or ask her out?

How did Kevin meet Taylor?

Does Kevin have friends who are friendly with BF?

#31 10-27-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by PMcOuntry

Never knew that, thanks for that point! If that is the case, it could be any number of things that weren't "illegal". Heck, it could have been skateboarding in a "no skateboading" zone/park!?

What if...

say Taylor DID say she was going to do something "highly illegal"?

I noticed I said that on my blog the other day. What I did was, I bought and watched a Broadway show bootleg on DVD. Ooooohhhh. Going to hell for that, I am.
Anyway.

What if Taylor, say, got sick of being watched every time she went to get her car, and planned on disabling the video feed into Ben's apartment? That's something I would totally do, especially if this creepy guy I hit it with once wouldn't stop bugging me and going on about his ex and what a psycho she was.

And what if she got caught? Ben was outside, saw her... or inside and saw her. She tried to pass it off as a practical joke. He laughed with her, but inside the cold rage was already boiling, dry-ice-like, smoldering. He didn't like her any more, but he still wanted her. She needed to learn her lesson.

Okie doke, scared myself now... but it's a valid a theory as any other.

Lily

#32 10-27-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Hey Paula

I confess to being ignorant re the relationship between Kevin and BF. I read, in one of the posts on this board, that Kevin was BF's friend and thought the poster knew that for a fact. Also, I wasn't aware of when Kevin made that statement, i.e., prior to Taylor's body having been found.

Was Taylor very friendly with BF? That is the kind of disclosure (confessing to wanting to do something "highly illegal") one would make only to someone they were extremely close with, IMO.

I'd like to learn more about Kevin, and his relationship with Taylor. I have questions that I hope to learn the answers to such as"

Did Kevin ever date Taylor or ask her out?

How did Kevin meet Taylor?

Does Kevin have friends who are friendly with BF?

Kevin told Marilyn that he went to the police to tell them about Taylor saying she was going to do something "highly illegal" after he found out she had gone missing.

He was being proactive in trying to help in whateve way he could.

So, the police (according to Kevin) were aware of the "highly illegal" comment almost from the onset of this case.

Yes, Ben knows a person named Keven. (Notice how it's spelled). I know a couple of people named Kevin myself. Even know a few people named Mike. Doesn't mean they're all the same person because they share the same name.

Sure, it's possible Kevin is lying to Marilyn. But why lie about something that could be disproven so easily? That wouldn't make sense in my opinion.

It is my understanding that Kevin didn't really know Taylor very well. If my memory serves me correctly, he said they hung out around 4 different times while skating.

I personally don't see her comment as being something she would only tell someone she was close with. Heck, they're kids. They're hanging out skating together and she was in a new circle of friends at school. No one really knows Taylor Behl well enough to know what type of language she would use in a particular situation or how open she was with people she barely knew. That is the unknown. We just don' t know the girl.

LADY2NOW · #33 10-27-2005, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0

Kevin told Marilyn that he went to the police to tell them about Taylor saying she was going to do something "highly illegal" after he found out she had gone missing.

He was being proactive in trying to help in whateve way he could.

So, the police (according to Kevin) were aware of the "highly illegal" comment almost from the onset of this case.

Yes, Ben knows a person named Keven. (Notice how it's spelled). I know a couple of people named Kevin myself. Even know a few people named Mike. Doesn't mean they're all the same person because they share the same name.

Sure, it's possible Kevin is lying to Marilyn. But why lie about something that could be disproven so easily? That wouldn't make sense in my opinion.

It is my understanding that Kevin didn't really know Taylor very well. If my memory serves me correctly, he said they hung out around 4 different times while skating.

I personally don't see her comment as being something she would only tell someone she was close with. Heck, they're kids. They're hanging out skating together and she was in a new circle of friends at school. No one really knows Taylor Behl well enough to know what type of language she would use in a particular situation or how open she was with people she barely knew. That is the unknown. We just don' t know the girl.

I agree--we don't know the girl and we don't know what type of language she would use in a particular situation. Was "illegal" really "illegal" or just slang for something else? We don't know. I'm beginning to think that her admission to Kevin (if she made it), is really irrelevant to her disappearce and death. I think, though, that BF, hearing of it, used the phrase to his advantage both before and after his "confession".

#34 10-27-2005, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LADY2NOW

I agree--we don't know the girl and we don't know what type of language she would use in a particular situation. Was "illegal" really "illegal" or just slang for something else? We don't know. I'm beginning to think that her admission to Kevin (if she made it), is really irrelevant to her disappearce and death. I think, though, that BF, hearing of it, used the phrase to his advantage both before and after his "confession".

The main thing that concerns me about the "highly illegal" statement really has nothing to do with the meaning behind it, or what it could possibly infer.

What concerns me is that from the given times, she was talking to Kevin when she was supposed to be with Jake.

Of course, we've never been given a clear timeline from the authorities, so we can only go by what's been reported second hand to the media.

Somewhere between meeting up with Jake to do the art project and going to dinner with Jake, she comes across Kevin and gives this cryptic statement.

Why?

Why wasn't she with Jake the whole time? Or was Jake there when the statement was made?

Could the "highly illegal" comment even be associated with the art project?

Was she really with Jake the whole time? (I have heard some people opine that maybe Jake was used as a cover for Taylor so she would be seen in a good light)

A lot of unanswered questions in regards to the timing of everything.

It also goes back to whatever was said when she went back to the dorm.

One account says she wanted to give the roommate privacy, so left.

The other account was she came home and said she'd be back in 3 hours. No matter how you slice it, if she gave the specific time frame "3 hours", it would indicate plans to do something specific. Typically if someone is leaving without plans, a simple, "I'll be back later" will suffice.

#35 10-27-2005, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0

Kevin told Marilyn that he went to the police to tell them about Taylor saying she was going to do something "highly illegal" after he found out she had gone missing.

He was being proactive in trying to help in whateve way he could.

So, the police (according to Kevin) were aware of the "highly illegal" comment almost from the onset of this case.

Yes, Ben knows a person named Keven. (Notice how it's spelled). I know a couple of people named Kevin myself. Even know a few people named Mike. Doesn't mean they're all the same person because they share the same name.

Sure, it's possible Kevin is lying to Marilyn. But why lie about something that could be disproven so easily? That wouldn't make sense in my opinion.

It is my understanding that Kevin didn't really know Taylor very well. If my memory serves me correctly, he said they hung out around 4 different times while skating.

I personally don't see her comment as being something she would only tell someone she was close with. Heck, they're kids. They're hanging out skating together and she was in a new circle of friends at school. No one really knows Taylor Behl well enough to know what type of language she would use in a particular situation or how open she was with people she barely knew. That is the unknown. We just don' t know the girl.

If Kevin is lying, how could it "be disproven so easily"? If Kevin is claiming Taylor said this to him, and she is now deceased, we have only his word for it.

LADY2NOW · #36 10-27-2005, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0

The main thing that concerns me about the "highly illegal" statement really has nothing to do with the meaning behind it, or what it could possibly infer.

What concerns me is that from the given times, she was talking to Kevin when she was supposed to be with Jake.

Of course, we've never been given a clear timeline from the authorities, so we can only go by what's been reported second hand to the media.

Somewhere between meeting up with Jake to do the art project and going to dinner with Jake, she comes across Kevin and gives this cryptic statement.

Why?

Why wasn't she with Jake the whole time? Or was Jake there when the statement was made?

Could the "highly illegal" comment even be associated with the art project?

Was she really with Jake the whole time? (I have heard some people opine that maybe Jake was used as a cover for Taylor so she would be seen in a good light)

A lot of unanswered questions in regards to the timing of everything.

It also goes back to whatever was said when she went back to the dorm.

One account says she wanted to give the roommate privacy, so left.

The other account was she came home and said she'd be back in 3 hours. No matter how you slice it, if she gave the specific time frame "3 hours", it would indicate plans to do something specific. Typically if someone is leaving without plans, a simple, "I'll be back later" will suffice.

BFD:

I've been reading Marilyn B's articles for Crime Library and it appears that, while she was at the Village Cafe with Jake she spoke with Kevin and told him about he "highly illegal" thing. So strange, unless it was something she came up with between the time she'd last seen Kevin, purportedly on the evening of 9/03 or 04 when she was skateboarding with him and her return to Richmond from Vienna around 6:45 p.m. on 9/05. Also, if the something "highly illegal" had anything to do with skateboarding, why not give Kevin, her new "skateboarding" acquaintance more info? If it had nothing to do with skateboarding, why mention it to him at all? Who knows what's going on in the mind of a 17-yr-old who's having dinner with a guy she likes but the guy is trying to break up with her? Also, I find it very interesting that, in early accounts of her disappearance, she was purported to have told her roommate she was going skateboarding (she didn't own a skateboard but early on BF said she came by his place to borrow a skateboard) and, in later accounts, the mention of skateboarding is left out....

#37 10-27-2005, 09:21 PM

memap1965, LADY2NOW, hey paula -

Thanks for each of you taking the time to respond to my post.

memap1965 - memap1965, LADY2NOW, hey paula -

Thanks for each of you taking the time to respond to my post.

memap1965 – I agree with your comment of “At the age of 17, one tends to dramatize a lot of things that older people probably wouldn't even view as illegal.” To me... “highly illegal” could have just been a phrase she had started using to describe something really fun. And I’d like to add that it goes both ways when it comes to over dramatizing. Adults or “older people” tend to blow up circumstances that are looked at as petty to younger people.

LADY2NOW – I agree also. She wasn’t a big criminal by any means. Just your average college student. Did she ever do anything that she could have gotten in trouble for? Probably but nothing of significance. I still believe she was just hyper about the idea that had popped in her head and wanted to tell someone. That’s even if she really said it.

Hey Paula – I’m still not too up on the car surfing idea. Not saying that my friends and I were wild kids or anything but we did that many of times when I was in high school/college and while we knew it was illegal – we never thought much of it at all. Do you know what I mean? Its kind of like an “oh well” kind of thing.

#38 10-27-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by BFD - v2.0

The main thing that concerns me about the "highly illegal" statement really has nothing to do with the meaning behind it, or what it could possibly infer.

What concerns me is that from the given times, she was talking to Kevin when she was supposed to be with Jake.

Of course, we've never been given a clear timeline from the authorities, so we can only go by what's been reported second hand to the media.

Somewhere between meeting up with Jake to do the art project and going to dinner with Jake, she comes across Kevin and gives this cryptic statement.

Why?

Why wasn't she with Jake the whole time? Or was Jake there when the statement was made?

Could the "highly illegal" comment even be associated with the art project?

Was she really with Jake the whole time? (I have heard some people opine that maybe Jake was used as a cover for Taylor so she would be seen in a good light)

A lot of unanswered questions in regards to the timing of everything.

It also goes back to whatever was said when she went back to the dorm.

One account says she wanted to give the roommate privacy, so left.

The other account was she came home and said she'd be back in 3 hours. No matter how you slice it, if she gave the specific time frame "3 hours", it would indicate plans to do something specific. Typically if someone is leaving without plans, a simple, "I'll be back later" will suffice.

I don't agree. Maybe her roomate said, come back in a "few" hours, and to me a "few" is 3 hours. Or, she didn't want to be out any later than1:30 a.m. bc she had classes or whatever, hence 3 hours. I think she was planning on going somehwere, she couldn't get into a bar at her age, not sure if there are any all night cafe's around there, in which case, I doubt she'd drive around for 3 hours, so who else does she know she could visit at 10:30 at night? The only person she really knows in Richmond is Ben, so why not go knock on his door and say hey, my roomate is getting it on w/her boyfriend and wants some space, can I hang out here for a few hours.

poplife · #39 10-27-2005, 09:31 PM

I think the one outstanding thing in this whole "be back in 3 hours" or whatever time frame she gave, and dependant on the cell calls she made while in her dorm room is- there is someone out there that thought they were going to meet up w/ Taylor that night when she left her dorm.

Who was it???

Or was she going to surprise someone?

I have to assume this info is being kept under wraps, b/c I believe she was going to meet someone.

Was it Benny-boy? We don't know yet.

LADY2NOW · #40 10-27-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by poplife
I think the one outstanding thing in this whole "be back in 3 hours" or whatever time frame she gave, and dependant on the cell calls she made while in her dorm room is- there is someone out there that thought they were going to meet up w/ Taylor that night when she left her dorm.

Who was it???

Or was she going to surprise someone?

I have to assume this info is being kept under wraps, b/c I believe she was going to meet someone.

Was it Benny-boy? We don't know yet.

According to Crime Library's timeline (or in the article, "What we know", I forget which), Taylor made a call on her cell phone at 9:45 p.m. to a person who has already been questioned. Maybe she headed out to "surprise" Jake or maybe hook up with Kevin and buddies to see if any skateboarding was going on. She made the call at 9:45 (from the dorm room according to Crime Library's articles) but didn't leave the dorm room until around 10:20.