jeremy cross's(emay1emay's son) murderer was killed in prison

WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR.
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

I'm very sorry to hear about your son...

So sorry to hear about your son. I can't even imagine what you went through and I'm sure are still going through.

Our society will always protect criminals even when it costs people their lives. You would think by now people would understand that anyone committing a sexual crime especially against kids will only continue to do it. I don't believe people like that can be cured - ever. But as long as the insanely politically correct people run this world it will continue to happen.

It's nuts.

Again, so sorry for your loss. I hope you find peace.

[RebelAngel]

for your son

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR.
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

I am so sorry for your loss.

IMO, sex offenders should never be let out prison because we know there is no "cure" for their particular kind of evil.

If it's not too personal, may I ask if you are going to his parole hearing?

Originally posted by annicablue


I am so sorry for your loss.

IMO, sex offenders should never be let out prison because we know there is no "cure" for their particular kind of evil.
-snip-

I think they should offer the parents the opportunity to extract whatever vengence they see fit. That will never happen, of course, but that would probably be more of a deterrent than any jail or "humane execution" will ever be.

My ex-husband felt that violent sex offenders should be surgically blinded if they are ever paroled. His theory was that they could not possibly strike again, and they would be extremely vulnerable themselves.

In lieu of that, your solution seems the best alternative.

to all the children

Originally posted by annicablue


I am so sorry for your loss.

IMO, sex offenders should never be let out prison because we know there is no "cure" for their particular kind of evil.

If it's not too personal, may I ask if you are going to his parole hearing?

ITA

for emay's son

JMO

Jan

[both_of_us]

So sorry for your loss.

[live4love]

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR.
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

I am so sorry for your loss !! What a terrible , horrible crime !!
Now it is being compounded by the legal system. Yes this offender should be identified as such. They should never let these *******s out either IMO !!
((((((((HUGS)))))))) For you !!

L4L.....tears.....

Oh, I am so terribly sorry about your son. I think if I were you I would contact every local media person I could think of and make it a cause locally. I would ask to speak at community organizations and make people aware of what was going to be moving back into the community. I think if enough publicity is given to this person it will be very difficult for him to live next door to decent law abiding people. This man will most certainly not be reformed of his horrid ways and nobody will want him near them or their children. You can get the laws changed if you get everybody aware of this.

Again, my deepest sympathy. I cannot even imagine your pain.

Caroline

Originally posted by cowbeller

Have you checked the statue of limitations? Can he be tried now still for your sons murder. I'd get on the prosecuting attorney and ride his back to try that evil ******* for sex crimes. They did not do it the first time they can do it now. Let them know you will be watching and if this guy ever offends again they wil be accountable.

I believe this guy WAS convicted of killing her son. The issue is that he won't have to register as a sex offender since he went to jail for MURDER and not sex offending. Is that right, OP?

I FOUND OUT TODAY DAVE BARNETT'S FIRST PAROLE WAS DENIED , AS ORDERED BY THE SENTENCING JUDGE, IN JUNE OF 2006 I WILL BE THERE TO DO WHAT I CAN TO STOP HIS RELEASE. I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE LAWS ON PLEAING OUT OF SEX CRIMES SO THEY DONT HAVE IT ON THEIR RECORDS

IN HOPING TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE LOCAL D.A. THAT HANDLED MY SONS MURDER .CLAIMS THAT THE REASON SHE TOOK THE PLEA WWAS FOR THE SAKE OF THE PREVIOUS VICTIM WELL POINT IS HE LIVED, MY SON DID NOT, I FEEL LIKE . ALL THE 'BUG' EVIDENCE FROM MY SON SHOULD HAVE BEEN TESTED TO THE LIMITS BECAUSE THEY KNEW FROM THE AUTOPSY THAT HE WAS NOT ONLY STRANGLED, BUT BOUND TO SOMETHING BY HIS WRISTS AND ANKLES AND STABBED INTHE BACK BEFORE BEING STRANGLED, I FEL WHATEVER EVIDENCE THAY HAD SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY PROCESSED AND TESTED TO THE LIMITS EVEN THEN NO MATTER HOW DECAYED MY SONS BODY WAS I KNOW THE 'BUG' EVIDENCE COULD HAVE BEEN TESTED OR THE CORONER WOULD NOT HAVECOLLECTED IT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONCERN AND DISCUSSION IT HELPS

Originally posted by emay1emay
IN HOPING TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE LOCAL D.A. THAT HANDLED MY SONS MURDER .CLAIMS THAT THE REASON SHE TOOK THE PLEA WWAS FOR THE SAKE OF THE PREVIOUS VICTIM WELL POINT IS HE LIVED, MY SON DID NOT, I FEEL LIKE . ALL THE 'BUG' EVIDENCE FROM MY SON SHOULD HAVE BEEN TESTED TO THE LIMITS BECAUSE THEY KNEW FROM THE AUTOPSY THAT HE WAS NOT ONLY STRANGLED, BUT BOUND TO SOMETHING BY HIS WRISTS AND ANKLES AND STABBED INTHE BACK BEFORE BEING STRANGLED, I FEL WHATEVER EVIDENCE THAY HAD SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY PROCESSED AND TESTED TO THE LIMITS EVEN THEN NO MATTER HOW DECAYED MY SONS BODY WAS I KNOW THE 'BUG' EVIDENCE COULD HAVE BEEN TESTED OR THE CORONER WOULD NOT HAVECOLLECTED IT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONCERN AND DISCUSSION IT HELPS

Oh emay1 my heart breaks for you.



Jan

on july 2 1992 MY SON WASMOLESTED AND MURDERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER, ONCE THEY GET CAUGHT AND DO TIME THEY TEND TO KILL THEIR VICTIMS SO THEY REDUCE THEIR CHANCES OF GETTING CAUGHT. THIS MAN ALSO PLED GUILTY TO MURDER FOR A REDUCED SENTENCE OF 18 YEARS HE IS ALREADY BEEN DENIED ONE PAROLE, ITS ONLY BEEN 14 YEARS HE SHOULD NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR PAROLE NOW OR EVER. DEATH TO THE *******!

For your son.....

I have a 3year old daughter and if someone did that to my child I would take matters into my own hands if that man were to be released and see to it myself that justice is served....if you know what I mean. AN EYE FOR AN EYE.
I hope he is never able to get out on parole.

May god be with you in these trying times.

Emay...have you spoken to an attorney about this? You need some legal advice and I am afraid we are all ill-equiped to help you there. In my opinion, I think you should speak to one but also write and/or call every government official you can. If you can find someone, say a state representative, who would take a personal interest in your case or this issue you can get the state government AND the media into this case.

My deepest sympathy to you and my sincerest wishes that this pervert never sees a millisecond of freedom for the rest of his miserable life!!!

For you and your son

BTW, when that pig does come up for another parole let everyone at these message boards know in advance. There are plenty of us who will write letters to the parole board begging to keep this monster in jail.

i had hired an attorney butbecause he was involved in a scandal unrelated to my case he did not file some paper or other in time and my case against the state was thrown out, andi amnot financially able to hire any one to look into it but i thank any onefor there interest and i do plan on getting some other things started as far as laws needing to change and such thank you again

Emay1emay - you are in my prayers. I wish I had something to say to take away all your pain, but words fail me. I'm just so sorry about your loss and the way the system has failed you and your son. I will pray for justice and healing.

Emay, first, my heart goes out to you.

I have said it before and I will say it again--we spend too much time protecting the "civil rights" of criminals, pedophiles and rapists in particular, and the victims end up being the people with absolutely no rights.
Laws need to change.

Originally posted by vp33


BTW, when that pig does come up for another parole let everyone at these message boards know in advance. There are plenty of us who will write letters to the parole board begging to keep this monster in jail.

VP is right; there are many who would be willing to participate in a letter writing campaign when the parol next considers releasing this jerk.

There is considerable strength in numbers, and you're certainly not alone in your fight. Just say the word.

We can do an online petition. I don't know how much weight they carry, but we can try.

HISTORY IS REPEATING ITSELF ON JULY 2 1992 MY (SMALL FOR HIS AGE) 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS BRUTALLY MOLESTED RAPED AND MURDERED BY DAVID BARNETT RECENTLY RELEASED FROM PRISON ON PAROLE FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME THAT HE HAD COMMITTED IN NEW YORK CITY(HE WAS OUTED TO A HOMELESS SHELTER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD). THIS WAS BEFORE MEGANS LAW ,NOT THAT I WOULD HAVE EVER SUSPECTED THIS MAN .HE HAD BEFREINDED ONE OF MY OLDER SONS 21YRS OLD AT THE TIME THIS MAN(BOY) ACCORDING TO THE POLICE HAD PLANNED IT ALL OUT, CHECKED OUT THE SITUATION . WEEDLED HIS WAY IN , AND BEFORE ANY OF US HAD A CLUE MY YOUNGER SON WAS MISSING AND SOON DEAD.. PAROLE LET THIS PEDOPHILE.. WORK DELIVERING PIZZAS, NEWSPAPERS, AND A LOCAL GAS -CONVENIENCE STORE ITS ONLY BEEN 14 YRS AGO AND THIS REPEAT OFFENDER PEDOPHILE WHO WAS SENTENCED TO 18 TO LIFE WAS GRANTED A PAROLE HEARING ALREADY, SOMETIMES I FEEL MORE HELPLESS NOW, JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS ANIMAL GETTING OUT,. HE ALSO ESCAPED BEING LISTED AS A SEX OFFENDER BECAUSE HE PLED GUILTY TO MURDER WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER OFFENDERS ALSO THAT GOT OUT OF BEING LISTED AS SUCH BECAUSE THEY PLED TO A LESSER CRIME???? WHEN ARE THE KIDS GOING TO GET PROTECTION ??? NEVER SHOULD THESE ANIMALS BE ALLOWED TO PLEA OUT OF SEX CRIMES AGAINST KIDS.. AAND NOT HAAVE TO PAY OR REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER.

I am so sorry for your loss and feel your anger and frustration!!

The fact that our legal system is still going easy on these predators is mind blowing to me.... and to not have to register because he's listed as a murderer not a sexual predator... instead he should be listed as BOTH!!!

I, too, feel your anguish. Everytime I hear about a monster, such as John Couey and hear how he and others are let out of jail or prison on "good behavior", I could puke! I wish their penises would be cut off these offenders for their penalty for committing these types of sex crimes. How many would that deter? I'd say about 99% of them! If that didn't deter them , after the next offense, their hands would be cut off, a condition of release...to make sure it would be next to impossible to grasp their next intended victim. Also, teach children to beware of anyone without hands. This coddling of the most heinous killers in our nation is getting ridiculously absurd. They even put them in a protected place in prison because other inmates know what to do with these perverts. They wouldn't last 10 minutes! It's pretty bad when those who are in prison have more sense of justice than those running the system!

And did you hear about the illegal immigrant who raped and murdered a 4 yo girl? There was an APB out for that scum yesterday evening! When will we quit babying these scumbags??

http://www.petitiononline.com/
http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html
emay, these are the links to the online petition website i told you about. The second one is the link to start a petition. Since I don't know the particulars of your son's case, I could not start it, but if you start it, I will be happy to sign. I'm sure I'm not the only person on these boards willing to sign.
Most of us are sick of these predators being out on the streets.

I am so sorry for your loss I hope this guy never gets out and does this to anyone else!

Originally posted by vp33
Emay...have you spoken to an attorney about this? You need some legal advice and I am afraid we are all ill-equiped to help you there. In my opinion, I think you should speak to one but also write and/or call every government official you can. If you can find someone, say a state representative, who would take a personal interest in your case or this issue you can get the state government AND the media into this case.

My deepest sympathy to you and my sincerest wishes that this pervert never sees a millisecond of freedom for the rest of his miserable life!!!

For you and your son

BTW, when that pig does come up for another parole let everyone at these message boards know in advance. There are plenty of us who will write letters to the parole board begging to keep this monster in jail.

What a great idea I know I would be honored to write to the parole board on behalf of you and your son.

Originally posted by Obvious
PLEA bargains are out of control. We can make all the law we want but if we do not stop the PROS side from these awful downgrades of charges we will never have them off the streets for good.

ANY crime involving the harm or death of another human should be able to be pled down! That is what we should be writing our law makers for .. NO PLEAS on crimes against persons PERIOD!

You are absolutely right...plea bargaining is out of control. Downgrading charges then giving less jailtime so the rapist can go free and all the cops know is he was convicted for something lesser.

Do future judges have any clue about a criminal's past pleas? Probably not. And as we've seen, some do not even check criminal histories! A deal AND a lazy judge--nearly a clean slate for a rapist. But I digress. These deals, even if for the benefit of the traumatized victim, need to be stopped. The victim deserves all the consideration in the world but considering them above future possible victims can and has lead to rape and murder. Why can't victims (esp. children) give videotaped testimony or a personal interview to the judge/jury? They can be cross-examined without having their tormentor stare them down. I know the constitution says you as the accused have the right to face your accuser, but damn...how many pleas have we had due to this constitutional right? What should be done about it?

Emay- Im so sorry to hear of all that you and your family have been through. I cannot believe this guy is even up for parole at all, especially so soon. I think plea bargains should be done away with. If he is not going to be required to register as a sex offender even though he is one, maybe he should be required to register as a convicted murderer!!!! We need to be informed of all paroled violent criminals living amongst us. My heart goes out to you.

[emmeblu]

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR.
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

I am so sorry for the loss of your son. How heart breaking to lose a child and then the predator come up for parole. Please, go sit in the meeting and speak as to why he should not be let out in the free world. Tell the parole board what you told us.

Blessings.

[GrrlPwer]

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR.
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

very sorry to hear about your son.......

foryour son. I also would be honored to write a letter on you son's behalf! How strong you seem Emay, all my best wishes and heartfelt sympathy to you

Originally posted by emay1emay
I FOUND OUT TODAY DAVE BARNETT'S FIRST PAROLE WAS DENIED , AS ORDERED BY THE SENTENCING JUDGE, IN JUNE OF 2006 I WILL BE THERE TO DO WHAT I CAN TO STOP HIS RELEASE. I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE LAWS ON PLEAING OUT OF SEX CRIMES SO THEY DONT HAVE IT ON THEIR RECORDS

This site has a ton of useful information and contact links.

http://www.sexcriminals.com/news-arc...ed-200403.html

Additionally, if I have your permission, I will include your plea on my Forum AND I will seek to spread the word in other areas on the Net. If you could provide me with the name of the facility in which he is curently housed, I can also try to organize a letter writing campaign which will show that the PEOPLE do not want this man back on the street.

The BEST way to get laws changed is to contact your representatives in Congress. If you need help with this, PLEASE let me know and I will do all that I can to assist you.

I am so sorry for your loss and you will remain in my thoughts and prayers.

Originally posted by vp33


BTW, when that pig does come up for another parole let everyone at these message boards know in advance. There are plenty of us who will write letters to the parole board begging to keep this monster in jail.

I second that. Let the boards know.

I didn't realize that a criminal would not have to register as a sex offender if he/she is tried for murder, as you say. How scary.

God Bless you and your son. There are no words.

Please let us know what you would like us to do and we will do it, letter writing campaigns, writing to the media, we get heard. There are attorneys that are members here, there are many people willing to help, if you just give us the word.

Prayers for you and your family.

to hear about your loss....I hope you will find peace to sustain you......

IN JUNE OF 2006 THE MAN (DAVID BARNETT) WHO BRUTALIZED AND MURDERED MY 14 YEAR OLD SON IS UP FOR PAROLE TO POSSIBLY BE RELEASED IN AUGUST OF 2006. AFTER ONLY SERVING 14 YEARS. HE WAS PREVIOUSLY CONVICTED OF AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME OF MOLESTATION AND ATTEMPTED MURDER, THANKFULLY FOR THAT YOUNG MAN ,HE WAS REVIVED, AND LIVED. WHEN DAVID BARNETT FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE BRINGING THIS YOUNG MAN IN TO TESTIFY HE COPPED A PLEA THAT WOULD PREVENT HIM FROM FILING AS A SEX OFFENDER . HE WAS ONLY CHARGED WITH MURDER ,NONE OF THE OTHER 30 POSSIBLE CHARGES INCLUDING HIDING MY SONS BODY, (FOM UPSTATE NY TO PA) MOLESTATION, KIDNAPPING, AND MANY OTHER CHARGES THAT THEY COULD HAVE CHARGED HIM WITH. THE AUTOPSY THAT I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SEE UNTIL MORE THAN A YEAR AFTER THE TRIAL SHOWED AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT WHILE HE DIED OF STRANGULATION HE WAS STABBED ,BOUND ,AND STRANGLED. UNTIL I WENT TO THE PRESS TWO YEARS AGO HIS PRISON MATES JUST THOUGHT HE WAS THERE FOR MURDER . THEY DID NOT KNOW IT WAS AN ESTREMELY SMALL 14 YEAR OLD CHILD... AND THAT HE MOLESTED HIM AND BRAGGED OF DESSICRATING HIS BODY. FO NOW DAVID BARNETT INMATE #93B1594 IS SITTING IN ELMIRA CORRECTIONAL FACILITY HE MAY SOON BE APPEARING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU!!!!!!!

Emay, go to the online petition website at
http://www.petitiononline.com/petition.html

and start a petition and then give us the link. I'll sign and I know a lot of other posters will sign.
He should NOT be getting out. There HAS to be some justice for your son.