must be obvious to everyone

Too bad I'm not a sociopathic murderer or Karla would like me a lot. Obviously, Karlz is attracted to men who murder. Paul was one of Canada's worst serial nightmares and the rumor is probably true that currently, Karlz is in love with an inmate who is in prison right now for the murder of his girlfriend. Karla was very evasive when she was asked about her relationship with this inmate in a recent interview. Her belligerent attitude towards the questions about this man reveal (at least to me and other smart people) that she has probably had sex with this convicted felon while serving her time and that she has probably had sex with him on more than one occasion, probably several. I'm not sure if this "boyfriend" of hers is due to be released any time soon, but whether he is or not, if the police take any restraint away from Karla, it is very likely that she could meet another male serial murderer and help him by going on another widespread killing spree.

come on people. i put in a solid comment. y'all have minds. comment on what i said.

spike

I don't think Karla wants to go back to "jail" .... personally I don't believe she will re-offend

Her bf is in for life for the murder he commited.

I think she will commit again. She is obsessed with murder. Notice the murders didn't start till she came into the pic. Plus all the books she read while in jail were about murders. Then when she was told she could have a penpal (the bf now) she chooses someone who committed murder. Look at the pattern. IMO its just a matter of time before she needs her fix to murder again.

Originally posted by SandraM
Her bf is in for life for the murder he commited.

I think she will commit again. She is obsessed with murder. Notice the murders didn't start till she came into the pic. Plus all the books she read while in jail were about murders. Then when she was told she could have a penpal (the bf now) she chooses someone who committed murder. Look at the pattern. IMO its just a matter of time before she needs her fix to murder again.

how do you know she is obsessed with murder? I HATE when people talk about murder not happening until Karla was in the picture ... for gods sake it was just a matter of time before Paul started murdering with or without Karla or atleast thats what the experts seem to think (Dr. Katherine Ramsland) ..
I've read a lot of books about true crime and murder and I would never consider myself "obsessed" with murder

Originally posted by DGAF


how do you know she is obsessed with murder? I HATE when people talk about murder not happening until Karla was in the picture ... for gods sake it was just a matter of time before Paul started murdering with or without Karla or atleast thats what the experts seem to think (Dr. Katherine Ramsland) ..
I've read a lot of books about true crime and murder and I would never consider myself "obsessed" with murder

no, you're right. reading about true crime and murder doesn't make a normal person obseesed with it and want to commit these horrible acts but for a person like Karla, who has killed 3 teens, it is. It's a very huge issue and does tell us a lot about her character and who she really is.

as for Paul not killing anyone until Karla came into the picture. No matter how much you hate it when people say that, doesn't matter because it's the truth. Paul was a serial rapist. he raped women for years and years and set them free. That was bad enough for him to spend the rest of his life in prison but when he met Karla, that's when the killing started. starting with her baby sister Tammy.

she is obseesed with murder and she likes to do it. She will re-offend when she finds her new Paul Benardo. Her boyfriend is serving a life sentence for murder. She's a cold blooded dangerous and evil person. Bottom line.

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by SandraM
Her bf is in for life for the murder he commited.

I think she will commit again. She is obsessed with murder. Notice the murders didn't start till she came into the pic. Plus all the books she read while in jail were about murders. Then when she was told she could have a penpal (the bf now) she chooses someone who committed murder. Look at the pattern. IMO its just a matter of time before she needs her fix to murder again.

Like Paul wasn't already on the serial rapist to serial killer trajectory without Homolka.

He clearly had to have been unnerved by his likeness to the released composite and the collection of his DNA. No rapes were committed in Scarborogh following those events. The one Scarborogh Rapist style rape he committed in St. Catharines resulted in him being closely pursued by men who almost caught him. One wonders if he realized a change in MO was going to be required.

The abduction of Leslie Mahaffey was a crime of opportunity in which Homolka had no role. Leslie had seen his face, and his car, and absorbed who knew how many other small telling details during her abduction, transport, confinement and rape despite being later blindfolded. Bernardo would not have taken a chance by allowing her to live.

The opportunity to rape and brutalize a woman over a number of days, as well as record it on videotape, must have had a lot of appeal to a sadist like Bernardo once he had a taste of it. Murder became a necessary end to that means, and outside of the fact that Homolka's presence in his life meant he had a home to do it in, I don't think she played any role in escalating the crimes other than by her silence and complicity. This is different than pegging her as the cause.

According to Stephen Williams, your assertion that Homolka only, or even mostly, read true crime in jail is simply wrong. Regardless, an interest in this type of reading material is indictive of nothing. Let's remember where we're all posting.

Finally, one cannot assume that her interest in Gerbet is rooted in his crime. When you look at the wide range of her interests in prison it is far more likely to me that her interest in Gerbet exists in spite of his crime, and not because of it.

[cantstandnuts]

Too bad I'm not a sociopathic murderer or Karla would like me a lot. Obviously, Karlz is attracted to men who murder. Paul was one of Canada's worst serial nightmares and the rumor is probably true that currently, Karlz is in love with an inmate who is in prison right now for the murder of his girlfriend. Karla was very evasive when she was asked about her relationship with this inmate in a recent interview. Her belligerent attitude towards the questions about this man reveal (at least to me and other smart people) that she has probably had sex with this convicted felon while serving her time and that she has probably had sex with him on more than one occasion, probably several. I'm not sure if this "boyfriend" of hers is due to be released any time soon, but whether he is or not, if the police take any restraint away from Karla, it is very likely that she could meet another male serial murderer and help him by going on another widespread killing spree.

I think you're right about Karla being attracted to murdering or at least raping types. She was friends with those girls who were doing time for rape and kidnapping. She was involved with Gerbet, the murderer and we all know what she was up to with Paul.

I don't believe Gerbet is due out ever. I think he is in for life.

I do believe she will gravitate eventually to another man of the same type, though, and that it's only a matter of time before she is doing this stuff again. I don't think she can help herself. I believe she likes it that much and I also believe she thinks she's smart enough to get away with it this time...after all she's learned from her last incidents and she'll make a few adjustments so as not to get caught. Since she's very smart, I believe she will delude herself into thinking she can get away with the perfect crime next time.

As for Paul, many killers start out raping and progress to murder, so the fact that he raped for years and only murdered with Karla in the picture means little to me. His crimes were progressively more violent and to me, that means, he would have eventually killed...with or without Karla...she may have helped him speed it up, but I am confident he would have gotten there eventually anyway. If anyone knows about Joseph Duncan, he started out a sexual predator and progressed to murder. Countless men have.

Spike, decent post.

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by cantstandnuts
[B
I think you're right about Karla being attracted to murdering or at least raping types. She was friends with those girls who were doing time for rape and kidnapping. She was involved with Gerbet, the murderer and we all know what she was up to with Paul.

I don't believe Gerbet is due out ever. I think he is in for life.

I do believe she will gravitate eventually to another man of the same type, though, and that it's only a matter of time before she is doing this stuff again. I don't think she can help herself. I believe she likes it that much and I also believe she thinks she's smart enough to get away with it this time...after all she's learned from her last incidents and she'll make a few adjustments so as not to get caught. Since she's very smart, I believe she will delude herself into thinking she can get away with the perfect crime next time.

As for Paul, many killers start out raping and progress to murder, so the fact that he raped for years and only murdered with Karla in the picture means little to me. His crimes were progressively more violent and to me, that means, he would have eventually killed...with or without Karla...she may have helped him speed it up, but I am confident he would have gotten there eventually anyway. If anyone knows about Joseph Duncan, he started out a predator and progressed to murder. Countless men have.

Spike, decent post. [/b]

Whom did you expect Homolka to meet in prison? Nuns? She was friends with other inmates whose crimes were not of that nature as well. What evidence can you point to that includes all the relevant circumstances that implies that Homolka was drawn to those girls particularly, and for prurient reasons?

Gerbet was convicted of 2nd degree murder and will be eligible for full parole in 2008.

What evidence can you point to that indicates that Homolka "likes" rape and murder and is drawn to it to satisfy her own needs and desires? I believe the evidence shows that her participation was driven by a desire to do whatever Paul wanted motivated by a combination of conflicted feelings for her manipulative husband, fear for herself and a self perpetuating fear of being punished for the crimes that began with the accidental death of her sister. Homolka saw two ways out: jail or death, and neither apparently held great sway.

northernrflxn
YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE MONEY

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by DGAF
northernrflxn
YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE MONEY

Yeah, I get that a lot around here.

NOT

[cantstandnuts]

Whom did you expect Homolka to meet in prison? Nuns? She was friends with other inmates whose crimes were not of that nature as well. What evidence can you point to that includes all the relevant circumstances that implies that Homolka was drawn to those girls particularly, and for prurient reasons?

Of course I didn't expect her to meet nuns, but I did expect you to ask that question as you strive to make every conceivable argument to support your theory that she isn't a sociopathic raping murderess. Point is, people in that prison, I'm sure committed a lot of different crimes, but who does she ally herself with? Rapists and killers...there has to be a reason for that and I say it's because she's attracted to that sort of person.

Gerbet was convicted of 2nd degree murder and will be eligible for full parole in 2008.

I stand corrected. I must admit that you do have a wealth of knowledge relative to this case. That's why it's curious to me that you don't seem to understand the main player in it.

What evidence can you point to that indicates that Homolka "likes" rape and murder and is drawn to it to satisfy her own needs and desires? I believe the evidence shows that her participation was driven by a desire to do whatever Paul wanted motivated by a combination of conflicted feelings for her manipulative husband, fear for herself and a self perpetuating fear of being punished for the crimes that began with the accidental death of her sister. Homolka saw two ways out: jail or death, and neither apparently held great sway.

I don't have any GD evidence, it's my GD opinion and I never stated it as a fact...Well, you know, I may have but not as an actual fact, but more that I often will say "the fact is..." when I don't mean I'm actually stating fact, it's just one of my ways of talking...it's a bad habit, I know and I've gotten called on it. I just let you know this, because I am almost positive that if I didn't point it out, you'd be copying/pasting one of my "the fact is..." posts when it's really just a manner of speaking for me and I am not really stating fact. Whatever, the point is I am stating what I believe is an educated opinion and speaking on that. Where's your evidence that Karla doesn't like rape and murder and the types who are drawn to it? If there were any real evidence either way, we wouldn't be on such opposite poles. And I say the evidence is in her behavior, both then and now.

Unless Karlz is on probation and surveillance for LIFE, there could be a-trouble a-brewin'. Remember people, she's only 35. That's pretty frickin' young. I'm just afraid that one day I'll pick up a paper and Karla and her new boy toy will be on the cover, having been arrested for the murder of a 14 year old girl and suspected for 10 other murders.

[cantstandnuts]

Unless Karlz is on probation and surveillance for LIFE, there could be a-trouble a-brewin'. Remember people, she's only 35. That's pretty frickin' young. I'm just afraid that one day I'll pick up a paper and Karla and her new boy toy will be on the cover, having been arrested for the murder of a 14 year old girl and suspected for 10 other murders.

That's what people are worried about and I don't blame anyone for thinking that, because it's a valid concern considering her past actions. And I don't get how anyone can downplay her potential dangerousness based on what she's done already! We know she is certainly capable of rape and murder (or at least accomplice to murder) so why is it such a stretch to believe she is capable of re-offending? And, good point, Spike, because it's not like she's been rotting away in prison for eons and is now 110 years old, she's not even 40 yet, so has a lot more years of potential depravity ahead of her IMO. Now, I see you rolled your eyes in your post...are you being a again or do you mean what you wrote in the above quoted post?

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally posted by spike
Unless Karlz is on probation and surveillance for LIFE, there could be a-trouble a-brewin'. Remember people, she's only 35. That's pretty frickin' young. I'm just afraid that one day I'll pick up a paper and Karla and her new boy toy will be on the cover, having been arrested for the murder of a 14 year old girl and suspected for 10 other murders.

Well, Angelus, I see that you haven't changed by your sarcastic reply, what with the in your post!

Another thing. How do you release a serial killer? Even releasing rapists and child molesters is bad, but at least them I can understand. How does someone actively participate in the cold blooded murders of over half a dozen girls and get 12 years? After the deal, why can't we just say "Hah, we were just kidding. You gotta fry, babe!"?

I don't even understand why anyone around here is arguing what Karla "will" do, or what she "wants" to do.
To ME, she's a groveling, sadistic and homely woman who is looking for forgiveness & understanding for the kidnapping, raping, torturing and murdering SHE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN. I could give 2 ****s how much time she has spent in jail.. she will forever be the ugliest person walking.

I cannot sympathize. Nor will I. All this bantering back and forth about "what she could have done" or "what she might do" or "who had sex first" or "why they had sex" doesn't mean squat.. the FACTS ARE SIMPLE: SHE IS EVIL. PERIOD.

(lets not forget that she DOCUMENTED these things with a handy-dandy camcorder also)

Well. Its actually VERY VERY important what she "might do" if that "might do" is MURDER. I think its worth arguing, debating, or talking over. Don't some of you other folks?

[cantstandnuts]

Well. Its actually VERY VERY important what she "might do" if that "might do" is MURDER. I think its worth arguing, debating, or talking over. Don't some of you other folks?

I do. And actually, why would this message board exist if not to talk about Karla? Is it just to state how much we hate her? I find no reason for that. I know I despise her actions and I don't know that I need to JUST hear how much other people do also, but also what other points of view are out there and how people explain their points. I'm not sure I get the point of the message board if it's not to discuss the whole story from all aspects and what the future could hold.
I'm a bit confused. I don't think the board was meant to be a collective hate fest.

I think its really sad and ironic that we can almost always remember the serial killer's name, but hardly ever remember even ONE of the victim's names.

Uhh. Yea, spike. If you haven't noticed, it's pretty much the general consensus around here...yepper, she's dangerous.

Collective hatefest? {{confused}} Umm.. no, I'm not saying that we shouldn't talk about her, in whatever way we end up talking about her.. I am here to read and respond to whatever. This message board about Karla though, always seems to boil down to posters arguing with each other. Makes it annoying to even come here and READ, let alone try and answer or participate.
Oh, and if it DID turn into a "collective hatefest", would that bother you? I don't want to sit here and imagine what "she MIGHT do", I know what she already did. I didn't realize that this board is meant to hypothesize about the future and argue with each other's ideas of what that might be.
I chose to already hate her for what she did.

Well, I'm not here to argue with anyone, just to point out my take on things. Having read several dozen books on the subject and having examined over hundreds of case studies, I believe my opinion should be taken seriously.

I think everyone SHOULD care about what a released serial killer MAY do in the future. It would be nice to believe that serial killers that serve their time and are released are fully rehabilitated. However, there are two instances, when attempts were made to "cure" the killer and they both failed miserably. Both Ed Kemper and Peter Woodcock were institutionalized in mental hospitals and released. People like Maveno "didn't care" what they "might do" and they both murdered more victims. I think EVERYONE should keep an eye on Karla's actions. What do y'all think?

Originally posted by spike
People like Maveno "didn't care" what they "might do" and they both murdered more victims. I think EVERYONE should keep an eye on Karla's actions. What do y'all think? [/b]

I suggest you think twice before lumping me into this statement. You have no clue how I truly feel about the subject, and trust me..if it was up to me, she wouldn't have the capabilities to "murder again".
You're missing the whole reason why I posted earlier. But that's alright, I fully expected it.

Oh, and btw.. I support the hounding of Karla. A public hanging is what I would actually like to see. So? Now that you know how I feel (ie; supporting the people that actually "care"), am I going to be able to stop her from committing a crime? Will my hypothesis on the subject stop her from anything?

It might.

[cantstandnuts]

Maveno, I meant nothing by that, except maybe I don't get the point of message boards, because I come to message boards to communicate and I actually like the debate of the whole thing, I love to argue, that's all I meant. I have a hard time sitting around agreeing with everything everyone says all the time because, well, it gets boring...like too much of a good thing so to speak. I like the varied views of all people, whether I agree with them or not. I'm not just into the one point of view. I like them all. Sorry to confuse you and hope I didn't get your temper up, I didn't mean it.

nuts, I didn't get mad at all. No worries.

Yea, I like a good debate too. To be an avid poster on boards, ya kinda have to get used to that.
A healthy debate is great..but it just seems to be more 'personal' when a poster disagrees with another poster around here. Maybe not, I dunno.. I love reading the threads, and every single one of them (threads) seems to boil down to who can be more sarcastic to each other.

I'd LOVE for a copasetic agreement about Karla, that she should always be 'watched'. But I doubt northern will agree to that.

I'm NOT trying to argue w/northern, nor am I saying her thoughts on the subject is wrong. She's just the only one I have read that doesn't agree w/that.

about sarcasm there, bub. Its a fine art if you ask me.

Originally posted by spike
about sarcasm there, bub. Its a fine art if you ask me.

I'll agree with you about that, chump.

Originally posted by spike
How does someone actively participate in the cold blooded murders of over half a dozen girls

over half a dozen ... wtf are you talking about?

[cantstandnuts]

Yea, I like a good debate too. To be an avid poster on boards, ya kinda have to get used to that.

A healthy debate is great..but it just seems to be more 'personal' when a poster disagrees with another poster around here. Maybe not, I dunno.. I love reading the threads, and every single one of them (threads) seems to boil down to who can be more sarcastic to each other.

_______________

Yeah, this board does have it's share of sarcasm. I know I can get sarcastic too, although I try not to. I haven't actually seen a message board quite like the court tv one before. I mean, regardless of what forum you're in, there's all kinds of name calling and stuff. I don't get that. While I can get snippy, I try to avoid the name calling. I dunno, I don't think it's very nice and I don't think there's any point to it...I think these boards, being about such serious subjects, brings out the beast in a lot of folks simply because what's being talked about is so serious and people feel so strongly about their opinions.

Anywho, Maveno, glad to know I didn't offend you, because I don't want to do that to anyone.

Known victims
Tammy
Leslie
Kristen
Elizabeth

Possible victims
Hawaiian possible murder
2 Jane Does

makes SEVEN.

Seven is half a dozen. Now I know basic arithmetic is hard for some people. Especially very retarded peeps like DGAF.

That's WTF I'm talking about. :lol:

Originally posted by northernrflxn


Whom did you expect Homolka to meet in prison? Nuns? She was friends with other inmates whose crimes were not of that nature as well. What evidence can you point to that includes all the relevant circumstances that implies that Homolka was drawn to those girls particularly, and for prurient reasons?

Gerbet was convicted of 2nd degree murder and will be eligible for full parole in 2008.

What evidence can you point to that indicates that Homolka "likes" rape and murder and is drawn to it to satisfy her own needs and desires? I believe the evidence shows that her participation was driven by a desire to do whatever Paul wanted motivated by a combination of conflicted feelings for her manipulative husband, fear for herself and a self perpetuating fear of being punished for the crimes that began with the accidental death of her sister. Homolka saw two ways out: jail or death, and neither apparently held great sway.

Yes finally has the same point of view as me , ive been saying this for years and no one ever beleived me , every one is brainwashed by the f***ing media , only thing is the last part jail or death well i think it was help kill or be killed , she never had a choice being so young and in lust with her prince charming that she would do anything to keep him .

Living in Montreal myself now , im not affraid of her if anything id help her out be given that society and the gd media , not to mention that f***king Richer fellow , are all doing things to make themselves look better and for what Money , and they dont even know half of her background let alone her taunted relationship to Bernardo

Im sure Karla will do just fine on the streets of Montreal , Go gurl you can do it .

Trex

[hockeymomof5]

Originally posted by trex


Yes finally has the same point of view as me , ive been saying this for years and no one ever beleived me , every one is brainwashed by the f***ing media , only thing is the last part jail or death well i think it was help kill or be killed , she never had a choice being so young and in lust with her prince charming that she would do anything to keep him .

Living in Montreal myself now , im not affraid of her if anything id help her out be given that society and the gd media , not to mention that f***king Richer fellow , are all doing things to make themselves look better and for what Money , and they dont even know half of her background let alone her taunted relationship to Bernardo

Im sure Karla will do just fine on the streets of Montreal , Go gurl you can do it .

Trex

LOL - I'm sure northern would truly appreciate the fact that YOU agree with her and support her position. :lol: :lol:

well it is true shes had a hell of a life , she paid her debt , now its time to let her live freely , being in her same position i would have done the same , im sure most of you would but it only takes a great deal of dignity to admit to it , and not to condemn a person on media falsifications . Read the books and true non media stories and tell me differently . I know that most of you that live in the st catharines area are furious bout al this i understand , the only thing i can say is put the bull**** aside and find the real truth about Karla like i have !!!!!!

Its obvious Karla is full of it. She claims Paul "forced" her to do thees horrible things and tried to play all "poor innocent me" - the fact that she is involved with the murderer (her new inmate boyfriend) is concrete confirmation this chick is addicted to depravity and crime.

Here's what I don't get....I see a lot of blame being put in her relationship. I can understand that, there are people in the world that CAN and WILL make others do what they want. But what I don't understand is, IF she was fearful of Bernardo, of course she is going to do what he wanted and go along with him. But if you are a NORMAL person, murdering people ESPECIALLY your own sister, well you are going to have some sort of feelings of remorse, or something along that line!! If she was a NORMAL human being that guilt over her sister would have eaten her up night and day!! It would have kept eating at her until she actually went to the police and confessed!! But she NEVER did that!! Only AFTER a victim gets away and the police are on to her does she then strike a deal!! And then she KNOWS full well there are video tapes of the events and never once tells police where they are or that they even exist!!! If she is such a "helpless" victim as she would like people to see her for, she IMO wouldn't have lived as long as she did not admitting what she did to her sister, and she wouldn't have happened to of "forgotten" about those tapes!!
She knew darn well if those tapes surfaced, she would be in there for life right along with her hubby!! I really think its a darn shame the bargain was made BEFORE those tapes were find...the extra 2 years she recieved was no where enough for the pain and suffering she has caused her own family, and many others as well!!!

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by Tweeter
Here's what I don't get....I see a lot of blame being put in her relationship. I can understand that, there are people in the world that CAN and WILL make others do what they want. But what I don't understand is, IF she was fearful of Bernardo, of course she is going to do what he wanted and go along with him. But if you are a NORMAL person, murdering people ESPECIALLY your own sister, well you are going to have some sort of feelings of remorse, or something along that line!! If she was a NORMAL human being that guilt over her sister would have eaten her up night and day!! It would have kept eating at her until she actually went to the police and confessed!! But she NEVER did that!! Only AFTER a victim gets away and the police are on to her does she then strike a deal!! And then she KNOWS full well there are video tapes of the events and never once tells police where they are or that they even exist!!! If she is such a "helpless" victim as she would like people to see her for, she IMO wouldn't have lived as long as she did not admitting what she did to her sister, and she wouldn't have happened to of "forgotten" about those tapes!!
She knew darn well if those tapes surfaced, she would be in there for life right along with her hubby!! I really think its a darn shame the bargain was made BEFORE those tapes were find...the extra 2 years she recieved was no where enough for the pain and suffering she has caused her own family, and many others as well!!!

It is absolutely false that she didn't tell the police that the videotapes existed. She told them from the beginning, and was forthright about what they contained with the exception of the Jane Doe tape. The dealmakers themselves have said that having the tapes before her deal would only have resulted in an additional 2 or 3 years. As well, she confessed Tammy's true fate and her role in it before her deal was signed and well before the tapes were turned over to the prosecution. This resulted in the "Two for Tammy" addition to her sentence. You are simply mistaken about some of the facts you state.

People forget that there is nothing "normal" about living with a psychopath. People are angry at her for not saving those girls when she couldn't even really save herself without intervention.

I have to say I often find people on this board shockingly cold, and in at least two specific instances would rather have Homolka as a neighbour than posters here.

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by sugar8
Its obvious Karla is full of it. She claims Paul "forced" her to do thees horrible things and tried to play all "poor innocent me" - the fact that she is involved with the murderer (her new inmate boyfriend) is concrete confirmation this chick is addicted to depravity and crime.

While I agree Gerbet is a lously choice, saying she is "addicted to depravity and crime" ignore the reality of the circumstances under which they met and the fact that our human attractions to one another are far more multidimensional than that. Given her own experiences with a judgemental society, one could forgive her for being vulnerable to this man she met in a library.

I dunno where you get your info from, maybe posting some links would help, but in all the links I've read she never once told them about the tapes until AFTER the bargain was met!!
And she could have saved those girls, she simply chose not to.
Domestic violence is a very serious crime, and its a shame she uses it in such a negative manner as she does. All she does is use it as her "scape goat" for her actions.
As far as her new boss goes, given her experience with her husband, how the heck could she trust anyone? No amount of counseling in the world would get you past some of the things she did!! After going thru what she "claims" she did with the domestic violence with him, how could she simply trust one of the first people she meets in the start of her "new" life, I don't believe it or buy it for a minute!! If you have EVER been in a domestic violence situation, trust is one of the LAST (if ever) things you do!!!

For the record...I'd have to say I'd definately live by anyone amongst this board then to have Karla living in my neighborhood!!