Karla Homolka is released

For those who were following the case. Here's the latest.

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/A...hub=topstories

Poor Canada..She is so evil.

Another link:

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montr...7-eebeea060a95

Originally posted by marabeth
Poor Canada..She is so evil.

Unbelievable she is hours away from freedom for her involvement in the crimes. Including, killing her own sister.

There are no words to explain the outrage here. She better not cross my path

The story in our paper this morning said there had been a number of threats against her and she is "living in fear". There is some justice in the world. I hope she feels that way every day for the rest of her life. She has been asking that the media not be told where she ends up living but so far the judges have turned down her request citing freedom of the press. Please Canada, keep track of this evil woman and let anyone who might come in contact with her know where she is. Evil is not a strong enough word for her.

Originally posted by lisanm2
The story in our paper this morning said there had been a number of threats against her and she is "living in fear". There is some justice in the world. I hope she feels that way every day for the rest of her life. She has been asking that the media not be told where she ends up living but so far the judges have turned down her request citing freedom of the press. Please Canada, keep track of this evil woman and let anyone who might come in contact with her know where she is. Evil is not a strong enough word for her.

The media ban was rejected by the judge. Her evil face will be all over the papers and there is a website set up with people wanting her dead. I'll see if I can find the website.

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/A...hub=topstories

[hockeymomof5]

In this article it says that she must "leave the prison by sundown". Reminds me of the old west movies where they tell the criminal to "get outta town by sundown".

Her attorney says that she is "paralyzed with fear, completely panicked". Poor thing. Not even close to what she deserves!!! I pray she spends the rest of her life looking over her shoulder "paralyzed with fear". It could not even possibly come close to what she made her victims feel. Nor what her and Paul put this community through not knowing who left the parts of body in cement in Lake Gibson nor who took Kristen off the sidewalk in broad daylight as she walked home from school later to be found murdered.

I live in the community where Leslie's body was found. Lake Gibson is a very short walk from my home, my kids go fishing there though they will no longer go close to where her body was. I went on the search for Kristen. This case hits very close to home and I am sickened to think that she will walk free today....just sickened. May she rot in hell.

They added only 2 years to her sentence for her complicity in the death of her own sister.

I would like to know where her parents are today, and what their feelings are...

Originally posted by Angel~Eyes


Unbelievable she is hours away from freedom for her involvement in the crimes. Including, killing her own sister.

There are no words to explain the outrage here. She better not cross my path

And just what are you gonna do if she does?

Originally posted by Breezes
They added only 2 years to her sentence for her complicity in the death of her own sister.

I would like to know where her parents are today, and what their feelings are...

Her mom moved to Montreal to be with her and her dad is also supporting her.

Makes me sick!!

[hockeymomof5]

Originally posted by Angel~Eyes


The media ban was rejected by the judge. Her evil face will be all over the papers and there is a website set up with people wanting her dead. I'll see if I can find the website.

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/A...hub=topstories

They go into court again this morning to apply to have a ban put on the media covering her release from prison.

Tomorrow they are filing an appeal regarding the conditions put on her following her release.

http://www.canada.com/national/story...d-449bca3407c0

Originally posted by conwayfan
And just what are you gonna do if she does?

Sybil, you're just trying to bait me. I'm not going to play your games. I have better things to do than play multiple nics/personalties games with you.

I thought you were leaving the boards per your post on the game thread poll.

Well I will enter the hornets nest here,

She was given 12 years and served it all. IMO the people to be angry with are the prosecutors who gave her the plea deal. I also think it would have been a lot smarter to release her after 11 on parole so she could be closely monitored and then if she did anything to violate parole no matter how small..such as return late to the initial halfway/transition house, she would be returned to prison..but either way there would be monitoring on a tight leash. By serving the full 12 she now is free to go where she wants with minimal restrictions and no supervion.

However the anger is misplaced imo, when its against her going free, it should be against the prosecutors.

all imo

I DO hold the prosecutors responsible, and I hope this sadist of a woman's worst fears come true.

Originally posted by Victim's Cry
Well I will enter the hornets nest here,

She was given 12 years and served it all. IMO the people to be angry with are the prosecutors who gave her the plea deal. I also think it would have been a lot smarter to release her after 11 on parole so she could be closely monitored and then if she did anything to violate parole no matter how small..such as return late to the initial halfway/transition house, she would be returned to prison..but either way there would be monitoring on a tight leash. By serving the full 12 she now is free to go where she wants with minimal restrictions and no supervion.

However the anger is misplaced imo, when its against her going free, it should be against the prosecutors.

all imo

IIRC the prosecutors went easier on her in exchange for her testifying against her husband who was also involved in the crimes. At the time she was claiming she was a battered wife and only cooperated with him because she feared for her life and the lives of her family. After the plea bargain was made they found a homemade video tape that made it very clear she was a willing and enthusiastic participant, not a victim herself. It was too late to change the plea bargain they made with her. She played them big time and it sounds like she is still playing her parents. If she moved anywhere near me I would pack up and leave.

Originally posted by Victim's Cry
Well I will enter the hornets nest here,

She was given 12 years and served it all. IMO the people to be angry with are the prosecutors who gave her the plea deal. I also think it would have been a lot smarter to release her after 11 on parole so she could be closely monitored and then if she did anything to violate parole no matter how small..such as return late to the initial halfway/transition house, she would be returned to prison..but either way there would be monitoring on a tight leash. By serving the full 12 she now is free to go where she wants with minimal restrictions and no supervion.

However the anger is misplaced imo, when its against her going free, it should be against the prosecutors.

all imo

Oh, I think I understand. Poor little murderous Karla. It's those mean old bad old prosecutors (who were just doing their job) we're supposed to be angry at...

Originally posted by Victim's Cry
Well I will enter the hornets nest here,

She was given 12 years and served it all. IMO the people to be angry with are the prosecutors who gave her the plea deal. I also think it would have been a lot smarter to release her after 11 on parole so she could be closely monitored and then if she did anything to violate parole no matter how small..such as return late to the initial halfway/transition house, she would be returned to prison..but either way there would be monitoring on a tight leash. By serving the full 12 she now is free to go where she wants with minimal restrictions and no supervion.

However the anger is misplaced imo, when its against her going free, it should be against the prosecutors.

all imo

There is a forum here on CTV with all the background details of this case. The plea bargain was made prior to the police finding videotapes of her involvement. When the plea was made it was to secure her husband got life in prison. Subsequently, they found tapes showing that she was involved in the murders as much as her evil husband but they were inadmissable (from what I understand) because it was after the fact. Therefore, she got away with murder.

I agree. My anger is towards the screwed up justice system we have here. A murderer is walking free after serving 12 years when she should be locked up in prison for the rest of her life.

I thought that since those tapes proved she was involved in these murders that her plea was void. It SHOULD have been. That plea was made under the pretense that she was a victim. Those tapes proved her wrong and that plea COULD have been jerked back, but it wasn't.

at least thats the way I see it.

I can't believe none of the Canadian tv channels are covering this. I wish there we had an all news channels like CNN or MSNBC. Sheeeesh!

hockeymom, are you getting anything there? Nothing here in Montreal. CTV nor CBC is showing anything.

[deputydi]

Originally posted by Angel~Eyes
For those who were following the case. Here's the latest.

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/A...hub=topstories

IMO this is a pathetic and dangerous miscarriage of justice. People in Canada -- BEWARE.

Originally posted by Angel~Eyes


Her mom moved to Montreal to be with her and her dad is also supporting her.

Makes me sick!!

Makes me sick, too! There was a case in Kansas City some years back where a young misfit of a woman who, along with 2 druggie boyfriends, beat and stabbed her beautiful 15-year-old sister, nearly decapitating her. And the parents stood by this daughter, who had been adopted, by the way. The murderess was adopted, and her sister was the only biological daughter of the parents. The adopted daughter had always been a misfit -- high school dropout, into drugs, etc. -- while the biological daughter was stunningly beautiful, and an honor roll student. The parents, who appeared to be upper-class, very intelligent and reasonable people, were interviewed on TV several times, stating how they would stand by their adopted daughter. I just don't get it.

[Sunshine@SC]

I believe Karla will kill again. Maybe next time she'll get what she deserved the first time.

[Sunshine@SC]

Originally posted by Breezes
Makes me sick, too! There was a case in Kansas City some years back where a young misfit of a woman who, along with 2 druggie boyfriends, beat and stabbed her beautiful 15-year-old sister, nearly decapitating her. And the parents stood by this daughter, who had been adopted, by the way. The murderess was adopted, and her sister was the only biological daughter of the parents. The adopted daughter had always been a misfit -- high school dropout, into drugs, etc. -- while the biological daughter was stunningly beautiful, and an honor roll student. The parents, who appeared to be upper-class, very intelligent and reasonable people, were interviewed on TV several times, stating how they would stand by their adopted daughter. I just don't get it.

No matter how henious the crime parents will almost always stand by their child. This was their child, adopted or not!

Originally posted by Sunshine@SC
I believe Karla will kill again. Maybe next time she'll get what she deserved the first time.

I pray she doesn't. I wouldn't want another innocent life taken away by this B. I hope she does something stupid like ignoring her release conditions and gets her butt back in prison.

Originally posted by Sunshine@SC


No matter how henious the crime parents will almost always stand by their child. This was their child, adopted or not!

I know parents who have NOT stood 'by' their children for far less crimes than this one.

You're right, though, adopted or not, it is their child.

Originally posted by Breezes


Makes me sick, too! There was a case in Kansas City some years back where a young misfit of a woman who, along with 2 druggie boyfriends, beat and stabbed her beautiful 15-year-old sister, nearly decapitating her. And the parents stood by this daughter, who had been adopted, by the way. The murderess was adopted, and her sister was the only biological daughter of the parents. The adopted daughter had always been a misfit -- high school dropout, into drugs, etc. -- while the biological daughter was stunningly beautiful, and an honor roll student. The parents, who appeared to be upper-class, very intelligent and reasonable people, were interviewed on TV several times, stating how they would stand by their adopted daughter. I just don't get it.

There's a case here where a 17 yo girl lied to her mother to get her in the garage so that her b/f could strangle her and then beat her and then the daughter choked her. They both wrapped her in a piece of carpet, put her in her BMW, with the daughter driving, and took her down by the lake and set her on fire.

The daughter then got dressed and went to work.

Her father stands by her side and is very angry at anyone who dare claims his little princess did this, he says the b/f MADE her do it. I don't understand that, either.

[Sunshine@SC]

Originally posted by keptkitty


I know parents who have NOT stood 'by' their children for far less crimes than this one.

You're right, though, adopted or not, it is their child.

I agree KK. I just can't imagine anything my children would do that would cause me to give up on them. And I've had my share of wanting to throw in the towel and give up.

I would never cover up for them - I would make them take responsibility no matter the consenquences. BUT, stop loving and supporting them - NEVER.

Originally posted by Sunshine@SC
I believe Karla will kill again. Maybe next time she'll get what she deserved the first time.

Not in Canada, she won't! Have to go to Texas or Florida for that!

Originally posted by Sunshine@SC


I agree KK. I just can't imagine anything my children would do that would cause me to give up on them. And I've had my share of wanting to throw in the towel and give up.

I would never cover up for them - I would make them take responsibility no matter the consenquences. BUT, stop loving and supporting them - NEVER.

I have 3 teenagers and I hope and pray they never put me in that position.

I know I will love my children no matter what....but I would not 'support' them IF they hurt someone. I would always let them know I love them, but I would sure let them know I don't support something that hurts someone else.

I've had my share of that towel thing too!

[Sunshine@SC]

Originally posted by ExArkie
Not in Canada, she won't! Have to go to Texas or Florida for that!

Texas has an express lane to the execution chamber. Maybe she should be deported to Texas.

Originally posted by Sunshine@SC


I agree KK. I just can't imagine anything my children would do that would cause me to give up on them. And I've had my share of wanting to throw in the towel and give up.

I would never cover up for them - I would make them take responsibility no matter the consenquences. BUT, stop loving and supporting them - NEVER.

I guess I'm not as forgiving. If one of my kids killed their brother or sister (my child), I would NOT support their murderous mind. JMO

Originally posted by Angel~Eyes


I guess I'm not as forgiving. If one of my kids killed their brother or sister (my child), I would NOT support their murderous mind. JMO

I have to agree with this, too. I really don't even like thinking about it.

Originally posted by ExArkie


Not in Canada, she won't! Have to go to Texas or Florida for that!

I wish they had DP here.

[Sunshine@SC]

Originally posted by keptkitty
I have 3 teenagers and I hope and pray they never put me in that position.

I know I will love my children no matter what....but I would not 'support' them IF they hurt someone. I would always let them know I love them, but I would sure let them know I don't support something that hurts someone else.

I've had my share of that towel thing too!

Just to clarify, my reference to "supporting" would be in the context of loving them and giving them guidance and emotional support in accepting the consequences of their actions.

Originally posted by Sunshine@SC


Just to clarify, my reference to "supporting" would be in the context of loving them and giving them guidance and emotional support in accepting the consequences of their actions.

I understand and that is the appropriate thing to do, IMO.

I can't imagine my children hurting anyone I dearly love...so when I think about it, it sure does bring on a mixed bag of emotions. I'm sure anger would be one of them.

Originally posted by Angel~Eyes


I wish they had DP here.

I wish we did ....That b will be free and that makes me soo angry.

Originally posted by Victim's Cry
Well I will enter the hornets nest here,

She was given 12 years and served it all. IMO the people to be angry with are the prosecutors who gave her the plea deal. I also think it would have been a lot smarter to release her after 11 on parole so she could be closely monitored and then if she did anything to violate parole no matter how small..such as return late to the initial halfway/transition house, she would be returned to prison..but either way there would be monitoring on a tight leash. By serving the full 12 she now is free to go where she wants with minimal restrictions and no supervion.

However the anger is misplaced imo, when its against her going free, it should be against the prosecutors.

all imo

I just read Stephen Williams second book, Karla A Pact With the Devil . I was very surprised really, according to that book just how milquetoast the prosecutors were with this case.

It seemed to me, based on William's book, that they could have played hardball with her and revoked the deal AFTER the fact that she had in fact been the instrument of death in her sister's killing. Why didn't they go there? I don't know.

I think it is odd too, that they were so hell bent on portraying her as the battered spouse when the deal was going down, but as her statutory release date approached, her psychological evaluations suddently took an about faced turn and suddenly she was a psychopath... When it was convenient for the prosecutors, she was a victim of her husband, then when it became convenient for them, she was a psychopath.

This book really opened my eyes to how much a part the prosecutors played in ensuring this evil woman got out as early as she did. They jumped the gun on making the deal, and then had to ride out their own bad decisions after the fact, and forced the department of corrections to try to implement greater restraints on her than any other prisoner would get, to make up for their original bad deal.

Did you know she was never even convicted of a sex offence? She participated in the rape and murder of 3 people, willingly and with enjoyment, and the rape of at least 1 other person, and no sexual offender charge for her.

SICK.

I really had no idea of how ineptly this whole thing was handled until I just read this book. It makes me sad.

I don't have one bit of sympathy for this woman, but I sure don't have much respect for the prosecutors and investigators who jumped the gun either.

[Sunshine@SC]

Originally posted by keptkitty
I understand and that is the appropriate thing to do, IMO.

I can't imagine my children hurting anyone I dearly love...so when I think about it, it sure does bring on a mixed bag of emotions. I'm sure anger would be one of them.

I hope I never have to find out what I'd really do. It's always easier to think you know what you'll do until it happens. I'm sure there's a lot of emotions that would precede and go along with reaching the point of supporting the child and trying to help him/her find their way back.

Curious about something - can this horrible woman cross the border to the US legally, now that they have let her out? She is not so well known here in the US and it might appeal to her because of that. I certainly hope not - you keep her up there! I have lots of (retired) Canadian neighbors and they don't want her either!

Originally posted by Sunshine@SC


I hope I never have to find out what I'd really do. It's always easier to think you know what you'll do until it happens. I'm sure there's a lot of emotions that would precede and go along with reaching the point of supporting the child and trying to help him/her find their way back.

It is easy to assume how you would act and it's very confusing when I think about one of my kids harming someone I love.

I KNOW I have unconditional love for my children, but how I would handle the situation? I really can't say.