Murders of Nicole Brown Simpson& Ron Goldman Part 2

[weezer]

OJ Simpson's lawyer seeks to disqualify new district attorney from handling appeal

http://www.therepublic.com/view/stor...-DA-Challenge/

[Scandal Junkie]

Cochran had no integrity -- he denied his illegitimate child -- he was living a life with his mistress on one side of town while his family lived on the other. I think any person who will betray his own family wouldn't bat an eye when it came to winning his biggest case.

He had an illegitimate child? And a mistress? Sheesh, how did I miss that info back in the day?

This is kinda funny, I don't think I've discussed this case in many, many years.

[weezer]

Former O.J. prosecutor trades courtroom for crime fiction

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/04/living...iew/index.html

[weezer]

Judge denies O.J. Simpson’s motion to dismiss foreclosure case

http://www.examiner.com/article/judg...reclosure-case

[Scandal Junkie]

OJ Simpson's lawyer seeks to disqualify new district attorney from handling appeal

http://www.therepublic.com/view/stor...-DA-Challenge/

Makes sense I guess given the relationship. I don't think it matters who the DA is, Simpson ain't winning that appeal. No way. No how.

[weezer]

". . .Simpson’s lawyer contested JP Morgan Chase's foreclosure action calling their filing "ambiguous and vague." Also party to the foreclosure lawsuit was the estate of Ronald Goldman and satellite television provider DirecTv. . ."

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[martin II]

in speechec after the trial cochran has said there was not enough time for oj to have commited the crime and get back to his house. therefore he did not commit the crime.

[fgump2]

in speechec after the trial cochran has said there was not enough time for oj to have commited the crime and get back to his house. therefore he did not commit the crime.

I could be wrong but I think that J Cochran and the other defense lawyers said very little about the time line descrepancies in the trial. After the trial he discovered that many of his supporters believed that the time line proved that SImpson was innocent so he started talking about it more.

[tv]

in speechec after the trial cochran has said there was not enough time for oj to have commited the crime and get back to his house. therefore he did not commit the crime.

There was time for him to commit the murders but he was cutting it close...that's why Allan Park couldn't get him on the phone and why he someone fitting his description go in the door.

[tv]

I could be wrong but I think that J Cochran and the other defense lawyers said very little about the time line descrepancies in the trial. After the trial he discovered that many of his supporters believed that the time line proved that SImpson was innocent so he started talking about it more.

IIRC, Cochran's timeline actually supports Simpson committing the crimes more than the prosecution timeline. I could be mistaken...I've been away from this case for a while but that's what I remember.

[tv]

". . .Simpson’s lawyer contested JP Morgan Chase's foreclosure action calling their filing "ambiguous and vague." Also party to the foreclosure lawsuit was the estate of Ronald Goldman and satellite television provider DirecTv. . ."

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You mean DirectTV still hasn't been paid? Hasn't that been many years ago? Good grief!

[tv]

Makes sense I guess given the relationship. I don't think it matters who the DA is, Simpson ain't winning that appeal. No way. No how.

When you've got an audio tape of a crime being committed that pretty much messes up the appeal...

[socaldiva]

You mean DirectTV still hasn't been paid? Hasn't that been many years ago? Good grief!

More proof that Simpson always thought he was special & the rules didn't apply to him imo.

[socaldiva]

There was time for him to commit the murders but he was cutting it close...that's why Allan Park couldn't get him on the phone and why he someone fitting his description go in the door.

It's obvious to me that there was time for him to commit the murders, being that he was the killer

[martin II]

there was time for him to commit the murders but he was cutting it close...that's why allan park couldn't get him on the phone and why he someone fitting his description go in the door.

after oj had brought the luggage down to the front porch he was in fact seen reentering his house.

[socaldiva]

after oj had brought the luggage down to the front porch he was in fact seen reentering his house.

Not a fact.....a fairy tale imo.

[fgump2]

I think that the sportscaster Howard Cosell was the first prominet person to label Orenthal Simpson an a-hole. Cosell wrote a book about sports casting years before the murders. I think it was called "I never played the game". He slammed about all the ex athletes who shared the booth with him, but the one he slammed the most was Simpson.

[tv]

Not a fact.....a fairy tale imo.

A total fabrication...but some choose to believe it. Oh, well.

[tv]

I think that the sportscaster Howard Cosell was the first prominet person to label Orenthal Simpson an a-hole. Cosell wrote a book about sports casting years before the murders. I think it was called "I never played the game". He slammed about all the ex athletes who shared the booth with him, but the one he slammed the most was Simpson.

Interesting fg2. I wasn't aware that Howard Cosell held that opinion of OJ Simpson. I'll have to check it out.

[Goldberg]

I think that the best book about the Simpson trial is Vincent Bugliosi's book Outrage: The Five Reasons Why O.J. Simpson Got Away With Murder. In 1996, there was a debate between Bugliosi and Simpson attorney Alan Dershowitz on the Larry King Show.
Here are the four parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWK-w...32C9534E1BF314
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRalJ...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCUMH...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2_vB...feature=relmfu

Who do you think won the debate: Bugliosi or Dershowitz? I'm not asking whether O.J. is innocent or guilty; I'm simply asking which attorney argued more convincingly. For example, it's possible that a person might think that O.J. is innocent, but still think that Bugliosi scored more points during the debate.

Bugliosi flips out during the final part of the debate. First, he says: "There is no time to talk on this show. It's a silly little exercise and all we are being is entertainers to the people who are watching." Later, he said: "For what you people did in this case, fraudulently injecting race into this case and accusing innocent police officers of framing Simpson, the whole lot of you - the whole lot of you should've been hogtied and whipped in the town square at noon time."

Do you think that Bugliosi was justified in saying that Simpson's entire defense team should've been hogtied and whipped in the town square, or did he go too far? Also, do you think that it was inappropriate for him to complain that the whole thing was "a silly little exercise?"

[fgump2]

I think that the best book about the Simpson trial is Vincent Bugliosi's book Outrage: The Five Reasons Why O.J. Simpson Got Away With Murder. In 1996, there was a debate between Bugliosi and Simpson attorney Alan Dershowitz on the Larry King Show.
Here are the four parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWK-w...32C9534E1BF314
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRalJ...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCUMH...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2_vB...feature=relmfu

Who do you think won the debate: Bugliosi or Dershowitz? I'm not asking whether O.J. is innocent or guilty; I'm simply asking which attorney argued more convincingly. For example, it's possible that a person might think that O.J. is innocent, but still think that Bugliosi scored more points during the debate.

Bugliosi flips out during the final part of the debate. First, he says: "There is no time to talk on this show. It's a silly little exercise and all we are being is entertainers to the people who are watching." Later, he said: "For what you people did in this case, fraudulently injecting race into this case and accusing innocent police officers of framing Simpson, the whole lot of you - the whole lot of you should've been hogtied and whipped in the town square at noon time."

Do you think that Bugliosi was justified in saying that Simpson's entire defense team should've been hogtied and whipped in the town square, or did he go too far? Also, do you think that it was inappropriate for him to complain that the whole thing was "a silly little exercise?"

I think Bugliosi went too far, although I respect his judgement. The subject of eithical legal behavior for lawyers is a subject I don't know how to discuss, but the defense tactics were pretty bad.
ing so
I thought both the prosecution and the press should have done a better job of challenging and refuting some of the defense tactics. The gloves don't fit part and some other aspects of the defense was ridiculous.

[Goldberg]

Bugliosi did seem to genuinely bothered by the fact that the Simpson defense team had accused the LAPD of framing Simpson, although I wonder if part of the reason why Bugliosi made that comment is because he was frustrated that Dershowitz was challenging some of his (Bugliosi's) assertions.

I think that the prosecution definitely wasn't forceful enough. As Bugliosi explains in his book, the prosecution displayed almost "unprecedented incompetence." There was a lot of highly incriminating evidence that the prosecution failed to introduce, most notably Simpson's statement to the police- where he admits to cutting himself and dripping blood all over his car, driveway, and house around the time of the murders. When asked how he cut himself, he replied, "I don't know." When asked a second time, he still had no explanation. Bugliosi said that he could've convicted Simpson on that ridiculous statement alone. What is the statistical probability that Simpson just happens to innocently cuts himself around the exact same time that his ex-wife and her male companion are being brutally murdered? One in a million?

[weezer]

Just as an FYI to my fellow posters: We all received invites to follow the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case at JuticeQuest. I accepted the invite and joined the group. I had no idea that the site isn't for discussion and/or debate but instead is foul mouth, vile, hating posts -- don't go. The mods lead the pack.

[socaldiva]

Just as an FYI to my fellow posters: We all received invites to follow the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case at JuticeQuest. I accepted the invite and joined the group. I had no idea that the site isn't for discussion and/or debate but instead is foul mouth, vile, hating posts -- don't go. The mods lead the pack.

Good to know. I was about to check it out further over there, so you saved me the trouble. So good to see you posting

[One2Snoop]

Just as an FYI to my fellow posters: We all received invites to follow the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case at JuticeQuest. I accepted the invite and joined the group. I had no idea that the site isn't for discussion and/or debate but instead is foul mouth, vile, hating posts -- don't go. The mods lead the pack.

We are still discussing the case here although not as active as there.... http://boards.library.trutv.com/foru...on-Martin-Case if you'd like to join in. I believe the other place was offered as someplace to go if this board closed.

[tv]

We are still discussing the case here although not as active as there.... http://boards.library.trutv.com/foru...on-Martin-Case if you'd like to join in. I believe the other place was offered as someplace to go if this board closed.

Hi Snoop! Do you mean the TM forum closing or CL?

[One2Snoop]

Hi Snoop! Do you mean the TM forum closing or CL?

CL ~ We thought we might be next after they closed Insession first and then the TruTV message board in June 2012. Deepwater told me she's not heard anything about CL closing.

[tv]

CL ~ We thought we might be next after they closed Insession first and then the TruTV message board in June 2012. Deepwater told me she's not heard anything about CL closing.

Thanks! I just wanted to be sure I'm not behind on the latest about the board. I remember one day FW's board was there and the next day it was gone. I don't want to do that again!

[tv]

Just as an FYI to my fellow posters: We all received invites to follow the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case at JuticeQuest. I accepted the invite and joined the group. I had no idea that the site isn't for discussion and/or debate but instead is foul mouth, vile, hating posts -- don't go. The mods lead the pack.

One thing I like about JusticeQuest is that you can post a conservative opinion on the political forum and not get shredded. As for the Trayvon Martin forum...I'm not that thick-skinned yet!

[lorettalockhorn]

Ex-prosecutor claims O.J. Simpson attorney tampered with glove



(Reuters) - Nearly 17 years after O.J. Simpson walked away from his Los Angeles murder trial a free man, a prosecutor at the center of the case has alleged that the lead defense lawyer tampered with a crucial piece of evidence.

Former Los Angeles deputy district attorney Christopher Darden on Thursday accused Simpson's defense lawyer, the late Johnnie Cochran, of "manipulating" one of the infamous gloves that the prosecution said linked Simpson to the grisly double murder of his former wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman...

On Thursday, during a panel discussion about the trial at Pace Law School in New York City, Darden, a member of the prosecution team, declared: "I think Johnnie tore the lining. There were some additional tears in the lining so that O.J.'s fingers couldn't go all the way up into the glove."...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88703120120908

[lorettalockhorn]

O.J. Simpson 'bloody glove' not manipulated, Cochran friends say



...Several jurors cited the too-tight gloves as a key reason for voting to acquit Simpson. But this week, Christopher Darden, one of the prosecutors on the case, told Reuters news service and a law school audience that he believed Cochran manipulated the glove.

"As members of the defense team, Carl Douglas and I were present in court on the day that Chris Darden asked O.J. Simpson to try on the glove,” attorney Shawn Holley said in a statement to The Times. “Mr. Darden's self-serving assertion that Johnnie Cochran tampered with the glove -- or any piece of evidence -- is false, malicious and slanderous.


“Almost 20 years later, it seems Mr. Darden is still trying to exculpate himself from one of the biggest blunders in the history of jurisprudence."

Alan Dershowitz, who also worked with Cochran, has said in a statement that the claims are "a total fabrication."...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ody-glove.html

[weezer]

IRS to O.J. Simpson
Don't Cut and Run
on Your Taxes!

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/24/oj-sim...#ixzz26738oT6f

[weezer]

O.J. Simpson's GF
Shopping a Killer Sex Tape


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/09/oj-sim...#ixzz2673ciws8

[One2Snoop]

O.J. Simpson's GF
Shopping a Killer Sex Tape


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/09/oj-sim...#ixzz2673ciws8

OMG that is gross. And WTH is she wearing?

[lorettalockhorn]

I feel like I've been slumming reading at TMZ. And it was fun! Join me for a drink anyone?

[Amy]

IRS to O.J. Simpson
Don't Cut and Run
on Your Taxes!

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/24/oj-sim...#ixzz26738oT6f

I tho't he had someone in charge of taking care of business--or was that just about the house that went into foreclosure?

[serpentsfall]

I tho't he had someone in charge of taking care of business--or was that just about the house that went into foreclosure?

What a shame...and we all thought so highly of Arnelle. Sigh.

http://www.examiner.com/article/o-j-...ardashian-will

"O.J. Simpson learned that his eldest child allegedly squandered his fortune on lavish shopping sprees, lavish parties and alcohol. He then made the decision to yank her from his will, potentially leaving her without a thin-dime of his fortune when he passes away."

[Amy]

What a shame...and we all thought so highly of Arnelle. Sigh.

http://www.examiner.com/article/o-j-...ardashian-will

"O.J. Simpson learned that his eldest child allegedly squandered his fortune on lavish shopping sprees, lavish parties and alcohol. He then made the decision to yank her from his will, potentially leaving her without a thin-dime of his fortune when he passes away."

Thanks. I was going to say his daughter, but my recollections are rather hazy. I did remember that she didn't exactly "take care of business" like he expected her to!

[weezer]

What a shame...and we all thought so highly of Arnelle. Sigh.

http://www.examiner.com/article/o-j-...ardashian-will

"O.J. Simpson learned that his eldest child allegedly squandered his fortune on lavish shopping sprees, lavish parties and alcohol. He then made the decision to yank her from his will, potentially leaving her without a thin-dime of his fortune when he passes away."

LOL -- wonder where our little arnelle is living these days and who she's living off of. . .

[weezer]

I feel like I've been slumming reading at TMZ. And it was fun! Join me for a drink anyone?

I have a bottle of dos equis thanks but I wouldn't mind one of those smokes! woot