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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    Joran begs for help from Mary Hamer, his former, "guardian angel," while she distances herself from him, and finds a new rescue project.

    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpps/new...13-fc_17026919

    Common sense would dictate this issue would be better left with the state department, given our current relationship with Iran.

    I'm sure that Natalee and Stephany did a lot of begging, too!

    I hope he has a very large and rambunctious cell-mate who has a thing for young blonde men.
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    US asks Peru to extradite van der Sloot for trial related to Natalee Holloway killing



    A Peruvian court is considering a U.S. request to extradite convicted killer Joran van der Sloot over charges related to the 2005 death of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, a judiciary spokesman told NBC News on Tuesday.

    The 24-year-old Dutchman, serving 28 years for murdering business student Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel room, is the chief suspect in Holloway's 2005 disappearance in Aruba. He faces U.S. extortion and wire fraud charges.

    "Yes, the request has been made ... we are discussing that subject now," said Juan Medina, a spokesman for the Peruvian court system...


    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...lloway-killing

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    Interesting, wonder why the US is so desperate to bring him here. Why can't they just wait until his sentence is up in Peru? Love the comments at the link.

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    Heard a few minutes of the discussion on TTV/IS today and someone suggested that since VDS' sentence in Peru will be so long, that it's possible that witnesses in this case could be difficult to find or might have memory lapses or could die before they get him in front of a judge, so this way they could have it on the record for him to serve a sentence here when/if he finishes his sentence down south.

    Gonna check out the comments section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorettalockhorn View Post
    Heard a few minutes of the discussion on TTV/IS today and someone suggested that since VDS' sentence in Peru will be so long, that it's possible that witnesses in this case could be difficult to find or might have memory lapses or could die before they get him in front of a judge, so this way they could have it on the record for him to serve a sentence here when/if he finishes his sentence down south.

    Gonna check out the comments section.
    That makes sense.

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    I like the idea of him being adjudicated and if he doesn't make it through the Peruvian sentence, then oh well. The comments there at MSNBC were pretty spot on!
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    Call me sick and twisted, but I keep an eye on this board because I'm hoping that I'll find that The Frying Dutchman will have offed himself or someone assisted him in taking himself out.

    As for the extradition, I say GOOD!!

    I agree with the reasoning behind it.

    If or when he's freed by Peru, he'll have to serve his time here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samanthajane13 View Post
    Call me sick and twisted, but I keep an eye on this board because I'm hoping that I'll find that The Frying Dutchman will have offed himself or someone assisted him in taking himself out.

    As for the extradition, I say GOOD!!

    I agree with the reasoning behind it.

    If or when he's freed by Peru, he'll have to serve his time here.
    As long as we send the "'person" back to Peru to finish his time.
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    Joran Van Der Sloot To Face Extradition Hearing In Natalee Holloway Extortion Case


    Joran van der Sloot has been ordered to face an extradition hearing that could send him to the U.S. on charges of extorting money from the family of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway.

    In papers filed Wednesday, a Peruvian judge scheduled the extradition hearing for May 8. The court proceeding will be held in Lima's Superior Court.

    Peruvian extradition hearings usually last a day or two, and a council typically gives the decision as soon as they hear all the evidence.

    Van der Sloot has been indicted in the U.S. on charges that he extorted $25,000 from the mother of Natalee Holloway. The 18-year-old from Mountain Brook, Ala., vanished while on a class trip to Aruba. She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad nightclub with van der Sloot, then a 17-year-old Dutch honors student living in Aruba. Holloway's body has never been found, and van der Sloot has not been charged in her disappearance.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D155704

    AMEN!! Bring the little mo-fo here, try him, and send him back to Peri to finish his sentence!

    And once again...another great article by David Lohr!!

    BTW-The Frying Dutchman looks POSITIVELY DIABOLICAL in the picture at the top of the page!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by samanthajane13 View Post
    Joran Van Der Sloot To Face Extradition Hearing In Natalee Holloway Extortion Case





    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D155704

    AMEN!! Bring the little mo-fo here, try him, and send him back to Peri to finish his sentence!

    And once again...another great article by David Lohr!!

    BTW-The Frying Dutchman looks POSITIVELY DIABOLICAL in the picture at the top of the page!!
    Pure evil.

    Thanks Sammy and David Lohr.
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    Joran will be miserable in the US awaiting trial ...

    Detox and no prostitutes on demand will cause him to be one unhappy guy.

    As for offing himself, a good possibility in a Peruvian prison which allows an ongoing flow of drugs. He's what, 25 years of age, and look at him, dead man walking.

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    Good points Simplicity - and I'd be terrified to use drugs in prison in his situation - too afraid someone would facillitate an accidental suicide.
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    Sounds good to me!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorettalockhorn View Post
    Good points Simplicity - and I'd be terrified to use drugs in prison in his situation - too afraid someone would facillitate an accidental suicide.
    And God only knows what lovely incurable STDs are being spread through the hoosegow!!
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    It all works for me Sammy. He already looks forty. Just think; by the time he's actually forty he may be six feet under.
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    Gee, maybe he should have stopped killing girls a long time ago. Thanks for being an icon of hope for justice denied, "person"
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    Joran Van Der Sloot to Fight Extradition From Peru



    The lawyer for Joran van der Sloot says his client will fight extradition from Peru to the United States, where he is charged with extortion and wire fraud...

    Altez says that if his client were convicted in the U.S. he wouldn't likely qualify for early parole in Peru.


    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...-peru-16305411
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    Joran Van der Sloot to Fight US Extradition from Peru



    The prime suspect in the unsolved 2005 disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, Joran Van der Sloot, told a judge on Tuesday that he will fight extradition from Peru to the United States, where he faces extortion and wire fraud charges in connection with Holloway's disappearance.

    Van der Sloot faces an indictment in the U.S. for allegedly accepting $25,000 in early 2010 in exchange for an unfulfilled promise to lead Holloway's mother's lawyer to the body after her disappearance in Aruba...

    "It's not good for us if Van der Sloot goes to the United States because everyone hates him there and the members of the jury will thus be biased," said Altez. "We will defend ourselves with all the legal remedies possible."...


    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/new...#ixzz1uNTtRfJ1
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorettalockhorn View Post
    Joran Van Der Sloot to Fight Extradition From Peru



    The lawyer for Joran van der Sloot says his client will fight extradition from Peru to the United States, where he is charged with extortion and wire fraud...

    Altez says that if his client were convicted in the U.S. he wouldn't likely qualify for early parole in Peru.


    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...-peru-16305411

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    Quote Originally Posted by samanthajane13 View Post
    Darn, you read my mind.
    It's not all about me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deacon View Post
    Darn, you read my mind.

    Great minds think alike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by samanthajane13 View Post
    Great minds think alike!
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    Joran van der Sloot's U.S. Extradition Approved


    The Peruvian Supreme Court has approved the extradition of Joran van der Sloot to the U.S. on charges of extorting money from the family of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway.

    There is just one small catch -- Van der Sloot's extradition will not take place until he serves out his 28-year sentence for the 2010 murder of 21-year-old Stephany Flores. The Peruvian business student was killed five years to the day after the unsolved disappearance in Aruba of Holloway.

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    Peru court: Can extradite Dutchman after prison


    LIMA, Peru (AP) — U.S. prosecutors who want to try Joran van der Sloot for extortion related to the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway will have to wait until he finishes serving a murder sentence in Peru, this nation's Supreme Court has ruled.

    Van der Sloot's lawyer, who was notified of the decision Friday, said Monday that he expects his client will be made to serve at least two-thirds of the 28-year sentence.

    The court's May 23 decision on extradition is not final, however. Peru's justice minister and Cabinet must endorse it, said the lawyer, Maximo Altez.

    http://news.yahoo.com/peru-court-ext...GFnZQ--;_ylv=3
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    Thumbs down

    Wait, what? Are they afraid we'll lose him or something?
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    Hard har har Yeah right!

    Joran Van Der Sloot's Letters Ask For Forgiveness For Murdering Stephany Flores
    Posted: 07/03/2012 5:24 pm Updated: 07/03/2012 5:24 pm


    Joran van der Sloot wants forgiveness for the murder of Stephany Flores and wants people to believe he had nothing to do with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, according to two lengthy letters released by his attorney.

    "I ask God every day that Stephany's parents can find it in their heart to forgive me," van der Sloot wrote.


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    And here I was hoping that there would be news of his newest roomie/boyfriend molesting him...or that he's hung (hanged??) himself in his bedsheets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samanthajane13 View Post
    ...or that he's hung (hanged??) himself in his bedsheets.
    That kind never does.

    One needs a conscience to do that.
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    LMAO!!

    Well...he THINKS this is wise move...


    Joran Van Der Sloot Blames Lawyer, Begs Forgiveness for Murder in New Letters


    In two letters, Joran van der Sloot blamed his lawyers for his nearly three-decade prison sentence, while he reiterated he had nothing to do with the 2005 disappearance of Natalee Holloway and begged for forgiveness for the murder of Stephany Flores.

    Van der Sloot, 24, is serving 28 years in a Peruvian jail for the murder and robbery of Flores, a -21-year-old business student whose body was found in a Lima hotel room in May 2010, five years after the disappearance of Holloway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samanthajane13 View Post
    LMAO!!

    Well...he THINKS this is wise move...


    Joran Van Der Sloot Blames Lawyer, Begs Forgiveness for Murder in New Letters


    http://news.yahoo.com/joran-van-der-...XBhZ2U-;_ylv=3


    He doesn't know what that means. He can be forgiven and still do his time.
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    Joran Van Der Sloot, Stephany Flores Killer, Impregnates Woman While In Prison



    Joran Van Der Sloot, Stephany Flores Killer, Impregnates Woman While In PrisonAMSTERDAM -- A newspaper said Monday that Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who is serving a 28-year-sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman, has impregnated a woman while imprisoned in Lima.

    The Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf cited Van der Sloot's lawyer Maximo Altez as saying the pregnancy is past its third month, and Van der Sloot himself as having confirmed the news in a telephone call on Saturday.

    "A test has proved" the pregnancy, the paper quoted Van der Sloot as saying...


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1947653.html
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    Joran Van Der Sloot's Lawyer Denies He Got Woman Pregnant in Prison



    The lawyer representing Joran van der Sloot today shot down reports that the Dutch playboy who is suspected of killing Natalee Holloway had impregnated a Peruvian woman during a conjugal visit in his Peruvian prison.

    Van der Sloot told Dutch newspaper, De Telegraaf, that a woman identified only as "Leidi" was pregnant with his child.

    "A test has proved" the pregnancy, he told the paper.

    But van der Sloot's lawyer, Maximo Altez, told ABC News the reports are not true and the woman, whose real name he said is Carol Figueroa Uceda, told him she was not pregnant...


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    Joran Van Der Sloot's Lawyer Denies He Got Woman Pregnant in Prison



    The lawyer representing Joran van der Sloot today shot down reports that the Dutch playboy who is suspected of killing Natalee Holloway had impregnated a Peruvian woman during a conjugal visit in his Peruvian prison.

    Van der Sloot told Dutch newspaper, De Telegraaf, that a woman identified only as "Leidi" was pregnant with his child.

    "A test has proved" the pregnancy, he told the paper.

    But van der Sloot's lawyer, Maximo Altez, told ABC News the reports are not true and the woman, whose real name he said is Carol Figueroa Uceda, told him she was not pregnant...


    http://abcnews.go.com/News/joran-van...ry?id=17426249
    God I hope it's not true. They should have mandatory sterilization for creeps like this. uggghhhhhh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by One2Snoop View Post
    God I hope it's not true. They should have mandatory sterilization for creeps like this. uggghhhhhh!
    I would take it one step further. Opps.....
    It's not all about me!

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    Hope the pregnancy report isn't true. What an onus to put on a child to have him for a father.
    The hypocrite's crime is that he bears false witness against himself...only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core. Hannah Arendt

    Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last. Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by One2Snoop View Post
    God I hope it's not true. They should have mandatory sterilization for creeps like this. uggghhhhhh!
    Involuntary if necessary.
    The hypocrite's crime is that he bears false witness against himself...only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core. Hannah Arendt

    Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last. Winston Churchill

    A truly strong person does need the approval of others any more than a lion needs the approval of sheep. Vernon Howard

    Corruption is worse than prostitution. Karl Kraus

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorettalockhorn View Post
    Involuntary if necessary.
    I prefer the rusty spork/no anesthesia/aseptic conditions method, myself.
    Anything written below the web links are MY OPINION-NOT FACT!
    If there are no web links, the ENTIRE POST is MY OPINION.
    It is my commentary on the topic, and I'm exercising my 1st Amendment rights as a US citizen.
    Posts are NOT made with any malicious intent.

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    Good to see you Sammy From the looks of his cell, it qualifies as aseptic. They can do it right there!
    The hypocrite's crime is that he bears false witness against himself...only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core. Hannah Arendt

    Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last. Winston Churchill

    A truly strong person does need the approval of others any more than a lion needs the approval of sheep. Vernon Howard

    Corruption is worse than prostitution. Karl Kraus

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