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[tv]

Perjured documents, perjured testimony equals corrupt police.

I don't recall any perjured documents related to Mark Fuhrman...sounds like perjured posting to me.

[William Anthony]

I don't recall any perjured documents related to Mark Fuhrman...sounds like perjured posting to me.

This is what I said. "Perjured documents, perjured testimony equals corrupt police." I did not say Perjured documents, perjured testimony equals MF. Perjured testimony equals MF. SMILE

[Hipcheck]

Enough said.

I was talking about the San Francisco cocaine scandal when I said I did see any innocent victims being sent to prison but I did see many convicted criminals being released.

[tv]

This is what I said. "Perjured documents, perjured testimony equals corrupt police." I did not say Perjured documents, perjured testimony equals MF. Perjured testimony equals MF. SMILE

I'm glad you corrected yourself.

[William Anthony]

I was talking about the San Francisco cocaine scandal when I said I did see any innocent victims being sent to prison but I did see many convicted criminals being released.

I understand and you were not trying to deny the history of the fact that law enforcement has wrongly incarcerated many private citizens. The Case of Lenell Geter, who was wrongly convicted of bank robbery in Texas, readily comes to mind.

http://www.answers.com/topic/guilty-...ll-geter-story

[William Anthony]

I'm glad you corrected yourself.

Not myself but your incorrect post that might be called perjured posting.

[tv]

Not myself but your incorrect post that might be called perjured posting.

Nope, I called it right. You included perjured documents and Mark Fuhrman in the same post. Very misleading.

[William Anthony]

Nope, I called it right. You included perjured documents and Mark Fuhrman in the same post. Very misleading.

This was my original post, " Originally Posted by William Anthony View Post
Perjured documents, perjured testimony equals corrupt police." As you will see that MF is not mentioned whereas corrupt police is. Your post is misleading and borders on perjured posting (you did not take an oath to tell the truth, . I think you see MF as the poster man for corrupt police.

[martin II]

The person stealing drugs from the lab was not a police officer.

hipcheck

that lab person held the same trusted job as d fung and AM. they were trusted to test the evidence but they stole some for themselves. saying they were not cops does not solve the problem as the prosecutor depends on them to give accuirate test results and they didn''t

there was also a situation in the SF police lab where over 400 cases the lab gave false results to the prosecution and testified in court on evidene that they had NEVER even tested and people were convicted as a result.

The person just made up false reports and testified to it in court. we have no way to know if this happens in other places or not.

[William Anthony]

I understand and you were not trying to deny the history of the fact that law enforcement has wrongly incarcerated many private citizens. The Case of Lenell Geter, who was wrongly convicted of bank robbery in Texas, readily comes to mind.

http://www.answers.com/topic/guilty-...ll-geter-story

Correction-he was convicted of robbing a KFC

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...e=search_video

[martin II]

Correction-he was convicted of robbing a KFC

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...e=search_video

wrongful convictons happen in texas a lot.

[William Anthony]

wrongful convictons happen in texas a lot.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...1.4a1cde0.html

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...2.4a899db.html

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/9/20/05331/0080

[William Anthony]

wrongful convictons happen in texas a lot.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...nvictions.html

"A Broken System

Wrongful convictions are familiar territory for Texas, a state that has been in the hot seat for the past decade due to the alarming frequency of exonerations. Texas is the state with the highest number of prisoners found to be innocent following DNA testing, according to the Innocence Project, a national organization working to exonerate wrongfully convicted people."

http://www.southerninjustice.com/200...pt-prosecutor/

"During the 30 years that Steve Russell has worked in the 20th Judicial Circuit State Attorney’s Office (much of the time serving as the top prosecutor), although relatively small and comprised mostly of the rural farming communities of Southwest Florida, that office has established a record of having the highest number of wrongful convictions in capital cases in the entire country. Incredibly, just this one office has sent more innocent men to death row (subsequently released by the courts) than most other entire states, combined."

[martin II]

I was talking about the San Francisco cocaine scandal when I said I did see any innocent victims being sent to prison but I did see many convicted criminals being released.

do you mean you did not see

look there are many cae where innocent people have been sent to jail becase of false police testimony and corrupt proecutors actions. the IP has proved that. the slow process of the IP when they deal with courts and prosecutors is what causes the release of innocent people to be so slow. but there are many just waiting to have their cases reviewed.

[martin II]

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...nvictions.html

"A Broken System

Wrongful convictions are familiar territory for Texas, a state that has been in the hot seat for the past decade due to the alarming frequency of exonerations. Texas is the state with the highest number of prisoners found to be innocent following DNA testing, according to the Innocence Project, a national organization working to exonerate wrongfully convicted people."

it is also the leading state that put people to death.

[martin II]

Correction-he was convicted of robbing a KFC

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...e=search_video

hipcheck knows about the case in Georgia where detectives threatned several people to force them to testify falsly against a defendant. after several years in jail all the witnesses exposed le and recanted their testimony.

[William Anthony]

hipcheck knows about the case in Georgia where detectives threatned several people to force them to testify falsly against a defendant. after several years in jail all the witnesses exposed le and recanted their testimony.

Do you know the name of the wrongly convicted in that case?

[martin II]

How do you know it's not true?

the article says they were police not civilians.are you also attempting to minimize what happened in sf? so far you have not condemed it

[martin II]

Do you know the name of the wrongly convicted in that case?

not by memory but i can look

[martin II]

Do you know the name of the wrongly convicted in that case?

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...d_of_rape.html

there are too many mor i found to post.

[martin II]

http://www.georgiacriminaldefenseblo...fully_accused/

another case

hipcheck.

you are not responsible for the actions of the SF and Georgia cops criminal actions. I have no reason t believe you would lie in your testimony.
so it makes no sense fo you to make excuses for their behavior. call a spad a spade is the best course. imo

[William Anthony]

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...d_of_rape.html

thanks.

[Hipcheck]

do you mean you did not see

look there are many cae where innocent people have been sent to jail becase of false police testimony and corrupt proecutors actions. the IP has proved that. the slow process of the IP when they deal with courts and prosecutors is what causes the release of innocent people to be so slow. but there are many just waiting to have their cases reviewed.

It was suppose to say I didn't see any innocent victims from the cocaine scandal going to jail

The Innocence Project has found that most wrongful convictions are caused by eye witness testimony.

[Hipcheck]

http://www.georgiacriminaldefenseblo...fully_accused/

another case

hipcheck.

you are not responsible for the actions of the SF and Georgia cops criminal actions. I have no reason t believe you would lie in your testimony.
so it makes no sense fo you to make excuses for their behavior. call a spad a spade is the best course. imo

What San Francisco Police officers lied?

[martin II]

It was suppose to say I didn't see any innocent victims from the cocaine scandal going to jail

The Innocence Project has found that most wrongful convictions are caused by eye witness testimony.

i don't know about that
there are well documented cases of police misconduct and corrupt posecutors and you know it. stop making excuses for bad cops.you are not one of them right?

[William Anthony]

It was suppose to say I didn't see any innocent victims from the cocaine scandal going to jail

The Innocence Project has found that most wrongful convictions are caused by eye witness testimony.

Where were you when you saw many convicted criminals being released?

[martin II]

What San Francisco Police officers lied?

please dont try to deflect the facts.
read the article again. the good prosecutors have alrreadt called it a horrible thing and you are trying to make excuses. gee

[Hipcheck]

i don't know about that
there are well documented cases of police misconduct and corrupt posecutors and you know it. stop making excuses for bad cops.you are not one of them right?

I got that right from the Innocence Project's website which states most wronful convictions were cased by eye witness misidentification.

I had posted this information before.

[martin II]

What San Francisco Police officers lied?

no names have been made public but at least 80 or more

[martin II]

I got that right from the Innocence Project's website which states most wronful convictions were cased by eye witness misidentification.

I had posted this information before.

they also documented the many police and corrupt DA illegal conduct

you do a disservice to yourself by trying to post excuses to try to say no big deal. it is a big deal 600 or more cases tossed. stolen drugs by trusted lab workers.

[martin II]

I got that right from the Innocence Project's website which states most wronful convictions were cased by eye witness misidentification.

I had posted this information before.

what you are ignoring is that most all the eye witnesses are brought to the cases by le. snitches that lie on people at the demand of le to get lessor sentances or to evade prosecution.
just like the georgia case.

[martin II]

It was suppose to say I didn't see any innocent victims from the cocaine scandal going to jail

The Innocence Project has found that most wrongful convictions are caused by eye witness testimony.

they were either in jail or on trial or waiting trial in jail.

[Hipcheck]

no names have been made public but at least 80 or more

Where in the article does it say that any of these 80 police officers lied?

[martin II]

I got that right from the Innocence Project's website which states most wronful convictions were cased by eye witness misidentification.

I had posted this information before.

when a crima is committed le goes to the community and talks to all other past or current criminals. through threats they get these people to agree to testify to evade being charged in the crime.most are on probation and cannot afford to be charged so they just cooperate with le and the da and testify falsely against a defendant to evade being charged.that is why there are so many problems with 'EYEWITNESS' when it is later proved that the defendant was not guilty.

[Hipcheck]

what you are ignoring is that most all the eye witnesses are brought to the cases by le. snitches that lie on people at the demand of le to get lessor sentances or to evade prosecution.
just like the georgia case.

Witnesses that I'm sure the police talked to. The police aren't doing anything wrong when a witness makes a msidentification of a suspect.

[martin II]

Where in the article does it say that any of these 80 police officers lied?

they were identified by prosecutors.
are you trying to say the prosecutors that were left to correct the situation are not telling the truth when they say they have identified 80.

[martin II]

Witnesses that I'm sure the police talked to. The police aren't doing anything wrong when a witness makes a msidentification of a suspect.

tey have when le gets them to lie about what they saw. just like the 8 winesses that testyified at the demand of the georgia cop and later admitted they lied because the cops made them lie

[martin II]

It was suppose to say I didn't see any innocent victims from the cocaine scandal going to jail

The Innocence Project has found that most wrongful convictions are caused by eye witness testimony.

they were all in jail or on their way until it was discovered that thec lab person had lied about the evidence.

[Hipcheck]

they were identified by prosecutors.
are you trying to say the prosecutors that were left to correct the situation are not telling the truth when they say they have identified 80.

A public defender is claiming that the prosecutor didn't disclose the criminal behavior of those 80 police officers. No where does it say that these police officers lied.

[Hipcheck]

This was taken from the innocence Project's website.

Reasons for wrongful convictions.

Eye witness identification - 179

Police misconduct - 37