The Men In This Case Discussion

[One2Snoop]

Thread is locked - but here's the link - lots of good info in this thread!

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?t=266543

[Maybaby59]

03-23-2006, 02:44 PM
suzee

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I saw MH search with my own eyes along with his entire family. You may not have seen them, but I was there. He payed for his own helicopter and it was not JH. I was there when the helicopter landed. He was at the center many times until he along was asked not to come back. I don't mean for the words to sound harsh, but what you said was not true and maybe you were just confused. Hope this helps before more rumors get started.
suzee

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#45 03-23-2006, 02:46 PM
suzee

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oops I forgot
The GBI did not ask him to leave. AG sent message that she did not want him there and out of respect for Tara and her family, MH did not go back to the center, but contiued to search.
suzee

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#46 03-23-2006, 02:54 PM
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Maybe HD was trying to contact Tara to let her know his wife found out about them. Maybe the wife was going to cause problems for HD at work or maybe at Tara's work.


These are copied & pasted from another old thread...thought they were worth bringing over to be discussed here.

[Maybaby59]

Quoted from another thread for Men in this Case Discussion...

I researched HD on some websites tonight and I found an article that quoted him in the very beginning as saying they had been long time friends from school and that he had not seen her for several weeks. He didn't mention in the article while being interviewed that he had even been at Tara's house looking for her. I am just throwing that out there because now we learn so much about him but he never let on that he had even been there....IMO that is strange. Also, GBI was listed on one of the websites as being headquartered in Perry, which is where he works with LE as well. It may be absolutely nothing but it would be nice to know why all of a sudden it comes out that he was there at her house calling Miss Faye?????

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori..._no_clues.html
Link to article referred to in both these posts...

Ok...now I'm totally confused....here's a quote from the CL article link that Ben provided....

"A few days later, ****s, a policeman from nearby Perry and long-time friend of both Grinstead and her family, a confidant whom she had recently been dating turned up in Ocilla. She left school early. That too was unusual for the highly devoted and motivated eleventh-grade teacher"

Does this say that she was dating ****s or am I wrong on this?? Is this the same guy that is reported to be married with kids in Perry?

Somebody help.......

[Maybaby59]

Just for the record:

In my previous post, I wrote:

<<< And an angry, rejected, dumped or possessive lying-cheat can be lethal. We've seen it a million times. >>>

Just to clarify I am not calling HD this. Just my views regarding 'cheats'. And most trouble starts when the bounds of marriage are broken and one wants out. (In a snapshot, that is.)

I totally agree with what Jela says here...JMHO

[Maybaby59]

Another good one...JMHO

Truth or fiction? Since we are going by how many people said it to confirm it!

Several members have said HD frequently hid his car at the Portier's.

Several members have said HD was at the traffic light with Tara when AV hollered ugly names at Tar and on the same day went to Tara's and was arrested for disordely conduct.

Several members have said HD picked Tara up from school early on the 18th. HD tells CL he hasn't seen Tara in weeks.

Several members said HD and Tara had a date at the fairgrounds and bought her a pair of earings.

Several members said Tara and her mother had an argument on the Sunday before she disappeared.

Several members said Tara and HD talked on the phone during the cookout and was the last one to talk to Tara.

Several members said HD was visiting a friend on Lower River Road on Sunday of the weekend Tara disappeared. The members that said this do no think that HD is guilty.

Several members said HD was at Tara's house several times that same Sunday.

Several members said HD was seen both places during the daylight hours.

Several members have said HD called Tara over 20 times on October 23rd.

Several members have said HD's calls said he was "sorry".

Several members have said HD confessed his love to Tara over the phone during some of those calls.

Several members have said HD was crying at the police station parking lot.

Several members have said they SAW him crying there.

Several members have said HD's wife left him and that HD's family talked GD into going back.

Several members have said HD had personal connections with the GBI and a very good friend in the investigation of missing Tara Grinstead.

Several members have said HD has had multiple affairs, including an affair with Tara. The members that told this do not believe HD is guilty.

Several members have said HD had refused a LDT.

Several members have said HD is the GBI's number one POI.

Several members have said AG was jealous of Tara.

Several members have said LG was having an affair with Tara.

Several members have said AG caught LG and Tara together.

FACTS!

HD was at Tara when AV was arrested and through his own admission saw AV physically put his hands on Tara and did not help her.

Tara's car was washed shortly after she went missing.

HD phoned Tara while she was at the BBQ!

HD cellphone records placed him at Tara's house at 12:15 AM just hours before she went missing.

AG said Tara would never leave without her cellphone.

MHu said Tara would leave her cellphone if she left with someone she trusted and wanted to be alone with them.

LG had been in trouble with prescribing medicine for family members.

A pharmasist in Hawkinsville was ordered not to refill any of Tara's medicine after she went missing.

AG/LG did not go right away to Ocilla when Tara was reported missing.

HD and wife were saved after Tara's disapperance.

SF was not the arresting officer in the AV incident.

GBI said this case is solveable.

GBI said NO ONE has been cleared.

HD left a card in Tara's door the Sunday of the weekend that she disappeared.

MH took a LDT test and passed and he had an alibi.

AV took a LDT test and passed and he had an alibi.

Many people believe that Tara is alive and had a baby.

Many people believe that Tara left to get away from everything.

[Maybaby59]

Old Posts Re: LG

To the waters, I am starting this thread in the hope it does not get merged with any other so that we can have honest and open discussion in regard to all the people in Tara's life.

Can anyone tell me does LG own a black truck? Did he own a black truck at the time of Tara's disappearance? This has recently started circulating and either it is rumor or fact. Can anybody verify?

Where have BG & CG gone?

Where has FG gone?

Where has all of TG's other relatives gone? (other than LG & AG)

Does the family know people are claiming to speak for them on this message board? If so, are they in agreement with what is being posted?

What other side of the family was LG referring to? What private investigator was he talking about?

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=102</a>

LARRY GATTIS: The WHOLE thing. That was 90% of the questioning and harassment that day was the supposed affair I had with Tara, and anybody that’s been close to our family, or Tara, or anyone in town knows that’s totally ridiculous, I've don't go to that town very frequently at all. Me and Tara communicated by e-mails a lot and the GBI had all the e-mails that were strictly appropriate, very relative type stuff. So they knew that was ridiculous to start with. It actually got started by, we are not absolutely certain by a rumor from a private investigator that was working with the other side of the family. He has since been terminated. You know, the tragedy is that Tara's gone...

I have many more questions and would appreciate not having this merged.

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I don't know where to post what any more. Is the black truck thread merged with the "Possible Crime Scene" thread?
This is utterly confusing. Maybe that's the point. Thank goodness for the cache.

IMO, LG was talking about Trackers Global and its recovery agent, Hardiman. Hardiman had info posted on this very site saying he was not fired. The Grinsteads also posted a thank you note to Hardiman on the TrackersGlobal website after this interview LG gave about him being fired.

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After LG's statement that the pi was fired, the Grinstead's posted this on the pi's website. Obviously LG was wrong or just wishful thinking since the pi must've uncovered something unbecoming about LG, perhaps? His own words imply as much.

"We have been working with Trackers Global since Tara first disappeared in Oct 2005. We still don't know where she is or what happend to her. We are realistic and know what the statistics are about finding Tara alive, but as long as we have not found her, we cling to that tiny glimmer of hope. We believe in Trackers Global and support Robert in his endeavor to provide this much needed service to any family with a missing loved one and we appreciate his continued efforts to search for our loved one.
Billy and Connie Grinstead
(Tara's Dad & Stepmom)"

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Obviously "the family" is a term used too often and loosely on these boards. LG himself phrased it "the other side of the family," and he's referring to Tara's dad. TrGl also said they were non-profit at some point after their work w/Tara's case began; not sure if it started off non-profit or not, so I don't know about the "hiring" part of your question.

I'd like to know exactly what TrGl discovered to make LG think they relayed info on this topic to GBI to get the polygraph maching going. He says anyone close to Tara or the family would know it was ridiculous, but apparently TrGl found something somewhere from someone.

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We do not know what Hardiman thought. I have not seen any public statements from him. The GBI have interviewed so many people in this case, it may have come from several people. If it was the PI who put it out to the GBI, he had to get it from somewhere.

[wimpydodo@yahoo]

Another good one...JMHO

In all due respect to everyone,this would make one interesting movie, if it turns out all H.D. is guilty of, is helping TARA get out of town and to not look back. Someone had to haul her off, if this is what happened. My first choice would be a girl-friend in this type of crisis. But, Tara alledgedly loved and wanted to marry M.H. and H.D. may have thought he loved TARA and couldn't have her due to the circumstances right then and who better would be able to advise her how to legally disappear than H.D. for many unknown reasons. They, TARA and H.D. maybe were going to teach M.H. a very serious lesson. Sometimes men will do anything to show a woman how sincere they are even if they know they can't have her totally, plus in this case H.D. gets to go home, M.H. moves on, possibly filling a little guilt and TARA was probably at Witts end and didn't care what anybody thought if this be the case. I do know when a woman decides something, you ain't going to stop her if she persist. Leaving behind family, friends,and pets (animals). This to me seems more like the perfect mystery than the perfect crime .I don't know if there is one thing in this that would be consider illegal and the authorities might not be obligated by law,to have to tell anyone, if they do know.The girl I turned in that I thought resemble TARA, all the policeman told me was it was not TARA, but I would like to see this girl again myself. It sounds like TARA had been having a real bad couple months of all this craziness with these two guys and all her school work, beauty paegents , possible tension with her family and so on. Don't always judge by what you see on the outside. I would have exploded long before TARA did, if this is the case. It's just to Bad the right guy didn't come along two months earlier,she most likely deserved the BEST. imoo-moo -wimpy-

[BevAnne]

While it's probably wise to keep open minds, and entertain all options to what may have happened to Tara, I will never believe she walked away from her family and friends.

Sure she may have been in a rough patch, MAY have...I'm not even sure if that's a good description of where she was in her life. I think she was mature and level headed enough to handle the things going on in her life.

There was no indication her life was imploding before her disappearance. She was working, doing pagents, going to BBQ's....seems like very normal activities to me.

JMHO

[wimpydodo@yahoo]

Odette: Do you know where Scott Lee Kimbill was borned or where he was from? Thank you! Wimpy.

[Brainstorm]

Is he related to Tara or the Kimball's of Fitzgerald?Just wondering............
imho

[odette]

Odette: Do you know where Scott Lee Kimbill was borned or where he was from? Thank you! Wimpy.

Scott Lee Kimball was born in Boulder, Colorado.

http://scottleekimball.com/scott-kim...mball-is-born/

[Maybaby59]

My mother-in-law was interviewed by the GBI this past weekend. She is the one who saw the man the Monday night after Tara went missing.

Does anybody know what this was about? I did a search on lostinthought and this was the only post.

[concernedperson]

Does anybody know what this was about? I did a search on lostinthought and this was the only post.

Maybe lostinthought's MIL contributed to this sketch?

http://www.findingfaces.com/tara.html

[minga]

Maybe lostinthought's MIL contributed to this sketch?

http://www.findingfaces.com/tara.html

Looks like the sketch from the HE show. Doesn't look like any of the POI's on radar.

Something about him, he had a spider web tattoo on one arm (or the other) how did that go?

[concernedperson]

Looks like the sketch from the HE show. Doesn't look like any of the POI's on radar.

Something about him, he had a spider web tattoo on one arm (or the other) how did that go?

Well, the POI's on radar don't match the DNA so there is a loose goose somewhere. Don't know about the tattoo maybe you could elaborate.

[minga]

Well, the POI's on radar don't match the DNA so there is a loose goose somewhere. Don't know about the tattoo maybe you could elaborate.

Then your mind is failing. The tattoo that was mentioned on the waste of time HE Spectacular. That face was revealed and mention of the spider web tattoo on his left arm, or his other one. The guy that overcame Tara at her house had a spider web tattoo and drove a red truck.

How could you forget Carla solving the crime?

[hypnotized]

Thread is locked - but here's the link - lots of good info in this thread!

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?t=266543

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[susie31023]

bump

I'm bmping this thread in hopesof discussing some of the things that were posted by earlier posters. Very interesting to reread some of the older posts.

[Its just me]

I'm bmping this thread in hopesof discussing some of the things that were posted by earlier posters. Very interesting to reread some of the older posts.

Thanks Susie....I'm doing a quick stop and read a few post back.....The other side of the family caught my eye. Interesting. fep

[susie31023]

Thanks Susie....I'm doing a quick stop and read a few post back.....The other side of the family caught my eye. Interesting. fep

I agree feppy. This is a most interesting thread, I'm rereading it myself.~Susie

[Vera]

Since old posts are being quoted and reposted on certain threads. I found a few so far on this thread which are interesting. None of the conditions which formed this reasoning have changed, so why are personal attacks being hurled by this poster and his cohorts when MH is discussed as a likely person of interest/suspect?

11-08-2005, 05:16 AM
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From a legal standpoint, you have your client take a private polygraph so you know if he or she will pass or fail it without the public knowing it. If they fail, no one knows; if they pass, it's broadcast on the news. I bet Harper wouldn't take a police polygraph, still, even if his lawyer is out of court now....

You're right on the 5:30 am - 10:00 am time frame. I don't think "sleeping at home" is gonna cut it for an alibi once more of this is fleshed out.

The camera angle, the rehearsed answers, the private poly, the lawyer doing all the time frame talking instead of Harper... a lot of things add up to be disturbing about this interview.

12-06-2005, 06:33 PM
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Joanne-

Did we miss another LE memo that you got and no one else did? I wasn't aware that LE, GBI, and the private eye think Tara just ran away on her own. I guess that's why the luminol'd MH's truck and, according to his stepsister's posts on findtara before its demise, got a DNA sample from him? Enlighten us more with this new information.

What do you think will happen if it turns out that (minus the lying about the fake crime committed against her) tara has simply run away too. That is the way the LE, GBI, and recovery agent are looking at this. She won't be brought against any charges because it is not illegal to run away, but I am wondering how awful it will be for any other woman who actually does go missing. IMO the new reports that she has been sighted recently are definately something to think about.

Old 03-20-2006, 11:45 AM
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Suzee-

Trust me, the GBI wouldn't have taken 2-3 weeks to polygraph Harper. You can divert that however you see fit, but the truth is--Harper and Pujadas leaped at the opportunity to have a "time conflict" so they could have the private one done and video'd for submission. You have your client take a private one when you don't know if he'll pass the government's. Ask any lawyer. Also, if they fail it, no one knows. You set the time, you set the surroundings. When they pass it, the GBI gets a courtesy copy. End of story.

The locals who want to help online still post. The stepsisters of Harper, his LE buddies, and the close friends--most of them have stopped because they saw it was getting them nowhere. And I did say "most" of them. I think even the spouse of the LE investigator has stopped posting on the boards defending Harper. Not sure on that yet.

I remember your posts from the very first forum, actually still have them in front of me. Defend him all you want, but the truth is tightening up.

[fsbiii]

Hey Paula, you stupid *****, I pretty much still agree with most of what I posted. What can you do now? But guess what - a WHOLE LOT MORE INFO has come about since those early days.... and I am open to MANY POSSIBILITIES... not just the one you have stuck in your wretched and pitiful little brain. Deal with it. And leave me alone. *****.

[fsbiii]

And for the record, I don't CARE if you discuss MH as a POI. That's not WHY you make me sick. It's the LIES and the utter and complete bullsh*t that you post to further your theory. The hideous games and ridiculous stalking you do of people like MH's girlfriend, Mike Lankford, etc. That's what triggers my reactions to your stupidity and one-track antics. I still think Harper could be responsible, too!!! Imagine that! Can we co-exist in the same universe now? Doubtful. I want the person(s) responsible, if there are any, to be held accountable - but I don't know who it is. I won't try to make others think it is anyone either. You can't do that.

[Brainstorm]

Hey Paula, you stupid *****, I pretty much still agree with most of what I posted. What can you do now? But guess what - a WHOLE LOT MORE INFO has come about since those early days.... and I am open to MANY POSSIBILITIES... not just the one you have stuck in your wretched and pitiful little brain. Deal with it. And leave me alone. *****.

ITA !!!!! You have shown your open-mindness and fairness,fsbii.
key words,imo," a WHOLE LOT MORE INFO has come about"

[fsbiii]

Like I said, I am open to any possibility. I am not like CP who names a perp from a dream then changes her mind to someone else, then changes it to someone else. That isn't open minded. That is following a herd. This isn't a cattle call, although at times it seems like it is. Paula and the Canadienne are just the same - closed minded to the point of insanity. It has to be their way or else... we've seen it for almost 3 years. Why can't it be open and objective? Why can't they see that HD could have done this just as easily as MH or anyone else? Why is that so hard for some people to reconcile?

[The R]

Like I said, I am open to any possibility. I am not like CP who names a perp from a dream then changes her mind to someone else, then changes it to someone else. That isn't open minded. That is following a herd. This isn't a cattle call, although at times it seems like it is. Paula and the Canadienne are just the same - closed minded to the point of insanity. It has to be their way or else... we've seen it for almost 3 years. Why can't it be open and objective? Why can't they see that HD could have done this just as easily as MH or anyone else? Why is that so hard for some people to reconcile?

psychosis?

[lighthousedazy]

Like I said, I am open to any possibility. I am not like CP who names a perp from a dream then changes her mind to someone else, then changes it to someone else. That isn't open minded. That is following a herd. This isn't a cattle call, although at times it seems like it is. Paula and the Canadienne are just the same - closed minded to the point of insanity. It has to be their way or else... we've seen it for almost 3 years. Why can't it be open and objective? Why can't they see that HD could have done this just as easily as MH or anyone else? Why is that so hard for some people to reconcile?

Because some folks still have that lynch mob mentality and vigilante justice syndrome. Maybe these ladies should watch the movie or read the book: "The murder of Mary Phagan". True story that happened in Atlanta back in the early 1900's. A lynch mob broke into the old Milledgeville jail and took Leo Frank (who was innocent) and hanged him. http://ngeorgia.com/ang/Little_Secrets I am glad our justice system has come a long way since then.

I still have no definite poi in mind either. Evidence presented to a DA will bring the case to trial, and not babble on a message board. jmo

[Its just me]

Like I said, I am open to any possibility. I am not like CP who names a perp from a dream then changes her mind to someone else, then changes it to someone else. That isn't open minded. That is following a herd. This isn't a cattle call, although at times it seems like it is. Paula and the Canadienne are just the same - closed minded to the point of insanity. It has to be their way or else... we've seen it for almost 3 years. Why can't it be open and objective? Why can't they see that HD could have done this just as easily as MH or anyone else? Why is that so hard for some people to reconcile?

Just know...it's clear you have a true open mind...You don't cull any possibility nor do you ride anyone's wagon. A trait that should be admired and not ridiculed. It's because of your open mind people have become over whelmed with issues that causes the personal attacks. You refuse to ride in their little red wagon on the oneway street named MH DID IT I’m sorry but I don’t see things changing. fep

[Its just me]

Since old posts are being quoted and reposted on certain threads. I found a few so far on this thread which are interesting. None of the conditions which formed this reasoning have changed, so why are personal attacks being hurled by this poster and his cohorts when MH is discussed as a likely person of interest/suspect?

Thank you for proving me right in my post on another tread saying you also have deep issues with members and they over ride any form of intelligence you may have....Unless I've over looked it Fsb has not brought up old posts. Since your issues over ride your intelligence there is no use trying to explain there is a difference between Fsb's open mind as he traveled this journey than the other case that brought on your post. fep

[One2Snoop]

Since old posts are being quoted and reposted on certain threads. I found a few so far on this thread which are interesting. None of the conditions which formed this reasoning have changed, so why are personal attacks being hurled by this poster and his cohorts when MH is discussed as a likely person of interest/suspect?

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11-08-2005, 05:16 AM
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From a legal standpoint, you have your client take a private polygraph so you know if he or she will pass or fail it without the public knowing it. If they fail, no one knows; if they pass, it's broadcast on the news. I bet Harper wouldn't take a police polygraph, still, even if his lawyer is out of court now....

You're right on the 5:30 am - 10:00 am time frame. I don't think "sleeping at home" is gonna cut it for an alibi once more of this is fleshed out.

The camera angle, the rehearsed answers, the private poly, the lawyer doing all the time frame talking instead of Harper... a lot of things add up to be disturbing about this interview.

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12-06-2005, 06:33 PM
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Joanne-

Did we miss another LE memo that you got and no one else did? I wasn't aware that LE, GBI, and the private eye think Tara just ran away on her own. I guess that's why the luminol'd MH's truck and, according to his stepsister's posts on findtara before its demise, got a DNA sample from him? Enlighten us more with this new information.

What do you think will happen if it turns out that (minus the lying about the fake crime committed against her) tara has simply run away too. That is the way the LE, GBI, and recovery agent are looking at this. She won't be brought against any charges because it is not illegal to run away, but I am wondering how awful it will be for any other woman who actually does go missing. IMO the new reports that she has been sighted recently are definately something to think about.

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Old 03-20-2006, 11:45 AM
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Suzee-

Trust me, the GBI wouldn't have taken 2-3 weeks to polygraph Harper. You can divert that however you see fit, but the truth is--Harper and Pujadas leaped at the opportunity to have a "time conflict" so they could have the private one done and video'd for submission. You have your client take a private one when you don't know if he'll pass the government's. Ask any lawyer. Also, if they fail it, no one knows. You set the time, you set the surroundings. When they pass it, the GBI gets a courtesy copy. End of story.

The locals who want to help online still post. The stepsisters of Harper, his LE buddies, and the close friends--most of them have stopped because they saw it was getting them nowhere. And I did say "most" of them. I think even the spouse of the LE investigator has stopped posting on the boards defending Harper. Not sure on that yet.

I remember your posts from the very first forum, actually still have them in front of me. Defend him all you want, but the truth is tightening up.

Bahaaaaaa LOL and this is supposed to mean what Hay Paula?
I've also had those very thoughts and I still have them - MH is still a POI.

In My Opinion/Just My Opinion.

[lighthousedazy]

Bahaaaaaa LOL and this is supposed to mean what Hay Paula?
I've also had those very thoughts and I still have them - MH is still a POI.

In My Opinion/Just My Opinion.

Agree and if you go way back on my posts too, I have considered MH a poi, but right now I'm leaning toward someone that hasn't been mentioned, and I don't have a link either.

[Vera]

Agree and if you go way back on my posts too, I have considered MH a poi, but right now I'm leaning toward someone that hasn't been mentioned, and I don't have a link either.

When/if someone, other than MH, gives me cause to suspect them of causing Tara's disappearance, I assure you I won't hesitate to post it along with supplying my reasons for suspecting they might be responsible. I have no qualms about changing my opinion when warranted.

[Its just me]

When/if someone, other than MH, gives me cause to suspect them of causing Tara's disappearance, I assure you I won't hesitate to post it along with supplying my reasons for suspecting they might be responsible. I have no qualms about changing my opinion when warranted.

That all well and good...But it's past time for your evil ass to leave those who disagree with you alone. Way Past Time FWIW. fep

[Atok]

When/if someone, other than MH, gives me cause to suspect them of causing Tara's disappearance, I assure you I won't hesitate to post it along with supplying my reasons for suspecting they might be responsible. I have no qualms about changing my opinion when warranted.

I have never seen you change your mind on a case. I've seen you go away when shown you were wrong, but I haven't seen you change your mind. I've seen you change your nic. I've seen you change where you post, but to actually back up and say you made a mistake, no, never.

I think you have an ego and pride issue. Not to mention a serious "Integrity" one.

Regarding this case in particular, maybe you can help me understand how you narrowed down the options to one and only one POI and why the GBI can't. I understand why MH is a POI. I don't understand why no one else is for you.

[cassandramarie]

I don't know what to really say in this case. I may sound ignorant perhaps, oh well. I just don't understand all the mumbo jumbo crap in this case and she's been missing for three years? Is it true that some of the people of interest did not take a lie detector test? Does it take pyschic shows, outsiders, other investigators to locate her alive or unfortunately her remains? I hate to sound negative, but over three years is a long time for someone to be vanished with no trace. Seems to me and many others there are too many "good boys" being protected above the law and the cops in Ocilla and elsewhere know something and don't want to talk. I think also that someone be it the law or a person of interest knows something or a piece of information and can't or dosen't want to talk. Why no links in all this time. The poor girl's mother has already passed away and she never had the closure of seeing her daughter again. Its NOT fair and whoever knows information or did this will pay dearly. It makes no sense whatesover, too many secrets and supposed "alibis". That mess gets old, get real....

[Lodi]

I don't know what to really say in this case. I may sound ignorant perhaps, oh well. I just don't understand all the mumbo jumbo crap in this case and she's been missing for three years? Is it true that some of the people of interest did not take a lie detector test? Does it take pyschic shows, outsiders, other investigators to locate her alive or unfortunately her remains? I hate to sound negative, but over three years is a long time for someone to be vanished with no trace. Seems to me and many others there are too many "good boys" being protected above the law and the cops in Ocilla and elsewhere know something and don't want to talk. I think also that someone be it the law or a person of interest knows something or a piece of information and can't or dosen't want to talk. Why no links in all this time. The poor girl's mother has already passed away and she never had the closure of seeing her daughter again. Its NOT fair and whoever knows information or did this will pay dearly. It makes no sense whatesover, too many secrets and supposed "alibis". That mess gets old, get real....

I believe we won't know what happened to Tara until someone tells us.

[fsbiii]

What leads you to your summary conclusion that "good boys" are covering up a crime and people are being protected above the law? Is it just because the case isn't solved and there isn't any public evidence pointing at a specific outcome or suspect? You imply that people just don't disappear without a trace - and unfortunately we've learned thru working on this case and reading about so many others - it happens all the time. There are people missing for years upon years without a trace. It's amazing that it happens that way, but it clearly does. I wish it were not so, particularly in Tara's case since it is the one close to my head and heart.

I appreciate your input here, but I think you have quickly jumped to a conclusion that isn't based on anything other than rank opinion. I believe that the local police and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation are spending tirelessly of themselves and their resources to solve this case. I won't throw them under the bus "just because" the case is unsolved over 3 years later. That doesn't seem fair to them - or to Tara.

I don't know what to really say in this case. I may sound ignorant perhaps, oh well. I just don't understand all the mumbo jumbo crap in this case and she's been missing for three years? Is it true that some of the people of interest did not take a lie detector test? Does it take pyschic shows, outsiders, other investigators to locate her alive or unfortunately her remains? I hate to sound negative, but over three years is a long time for someone to be vanished with no trace. Seems to me and many others there are too many "good boys" being protected above the law and the cops in Ocilla and elsewhere know something and don't want to talk. I think also that someone be it the law or a person of interest knows something or a piece of information and can't or dosen't want to talk. Why no links in all this time. The poor girl's mother has already passed away and she never had the closure of seeing her daughter again. Its NOT fair and whoever knows information or did this will pay dearly. It makes no sense whatesover, too many secrets and supposed "alibis". That mess gets old, get real....

[Brainstorm]

What leads you to your summary conclusion that "good boys" are covering up a crime and people are being protected above the law? Is it just because the case isn't solved and there isn't any public evidence pointing at a specific outcome or suspect? You imply that people just don't disappear without a trace - and unfortunately we've learned thru working on this case and reading about so many others - it happens all the time. There are people missing for years upon years without a trace. It's amazing that it happens that way, but it clearly does. I wish it were not so, particularly in Tara's case since it is the one close to my head and heart.

I appreciate your input here, but I think you have quickly jumped to a conclusion that isn't based on anything other than rank opinion. I believe that the local police and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation are spending tirelessly of themselves and their resources to solve this case. I won't throw them under the bus "just because" the case is unsolved over 3 years later. That doesn't seem fair to them - or to Tara.

ITA...... and yes cass,that sounded ignorant.
imoo

[readmylips]

It was a startling revelation to me to find out just how many people do go missing without a trace and how many are never found. No clues, no leads, nothing but heartbreak left behind. Of course I have taken the time to research and learn about these facts. In the beginning before I learned these things I was probably of a similar mindset that it couldn't happen. Unfortunately it happens all too often. Imagine how many families share this heartbreak. Mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, husbands, wives, children all left behind with nothing but questions and tears. It defies logic.

Another thing I have seen in my exposure to this subject is the propensity that uninformed people have for blaming. They blame family, they blame law enforcement and sometimes they even blame the missing person. If you look at enough missing persons cases you will see this common thread. There are many opinionated people operating with little knowledge and lots of judgment.

The situation, with all of its frustration, seems to bring the worst out in people. Many times they become like rabid dogs turning on one another and lashing out in random fashion. Cindy and George Anthony are a fine example of this. I believe this can be attributed to the combination of fear, frustration and emotional pain.

A missing persons case may very well be the most extreme and complex type of crime that law enforcement has to deal with. It may also be the one they get the most grief about from misguided people who really just want the same answers that everyone else wants and yet don't know enough to articulate it properly.

[cassandramarie]

I still stand by my opinion in the length of time she has been gone. I apologize for being harsh about "good ole boys" being protected and above the law. It just seems like that sometimes. Their are honest workers, friends, family, etc. that have tirelessly worked and dedicated their time to find Tara. You guys are right, people go missing all the time and unfortunately the case is never solved. Didn't mean to sound ignorant and harsh....Its just frustrating when you keep hitting brick walls. Thanks for listening.