The Men In This Case Discussion

[One2Snoop]

Thread is locked - but here's the link - lots of good info in this thread!

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?t=266543

[Maybaby59]

03-23-2006, 02:44 PM
suzee

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I saw MH search with my own eyes along with his entire family. You may not have seen them, but I was there. He payed for his own helicopter and it was not JH. I was there when the helicopter landed. He was at the center many times until he along was asked not to come back. I don't mean for the words to sound harsh, but what you said was not true and maybe you were just confused. Hope this helps before more rumors get started.
suzee

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#45 03-23-2006, 02:46 PM
suzee

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oops I forgot
The GBI did not ask him to leave. AG sent message that she did not want him there and out of respect for Tara and her family, MH did not go back to the center, but contiued to search.
suzee

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#46 03-23-2006, 02:54 PM
sumter_sue
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Maybe HD was trying to contact Tara to let her know his wife found out about them. Maybe the wife was going to cause problems for HD at work or maybe at Tara's work.


These are copied & pasted from another old thread...thought they were worth bringing over to be discussed here.

[Maybaby59]

Quoted from another thread for Men in this Case Discussion...

I researched HD on some websites tonight and I found an article that quoted him in the very beginning as saying they had been long time friends from school and that he had not seen her for several weeks. He didn't mention in the article while being interviewed that he had even been at Tara's house looking for her. I am just throwing that out there because now we learn so much about him but he never let on that he had even been there....IMO that is strange. Also, GBI was listed on one of the websites as being headquartered in Perry, which is where he works with LE as well. It may be absolutely nothing but it would be nice to know why all of a sudden it comes out that he was there at her house calling Miss Faye?????

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori..._no_clues.html
Link to article referred to in both these posts...

Ok...now I'm totally confused....here's a quote from the CL article link that Ben provided....

"A few days later, ****s, a policeman from nearby Perry and long-time friend of both Grinstead and her family, a confidant whom she had recently been dating turned up in Ocilla. She left school early. That too was unusual for the highly devoted and motivated eleventh-grade teacher"

Does this say that she was dating ****s or am I wrong on this?? Is this the same guy that is reported to be married with kids in Perry?

Somebody help.......

[Maybaby59]

Just for the record:

In my previous post, I wrote:

<<< And an angry, rejected, dumped or possessive lying-cheat can be lethal. We've seen it a million times. >>>

Just to clarify I am not calling HD this. Just my views regarding 'cheats'. And most trouble starts when the bounds of marriage are broken and one wants out. (In a snapshot, that is.)

I totally agree with what Jela says here...JMHO

[Maybaby59]

Another good one...JMHO

Truth or fiction? Since we are going by how many people said it to confirm it!

Several members have said HD frequently hid his car at the Portier's.

Several members have said HD was at the traffic light with Tara when AV hollered ugly names at Tar and on the same day went to Tara's and was arrested for disordely conduct.

Several members have said HD picked Tara up from school early on the 18th. HD tells CL he hasn't seen Tara in weeks.

Several members said HD and Tara had a date at the fairgrounds and bought her a pair of earings.

Several members said Tara and her mother had an argument on the Sunday before she disappeared.

Several members said Tara and HD talked on the phone during the cookout and was the last one to talk to Tara.

Several members said HD was visiting a friend on Lower River Road on Sunday of the weekend Tara disappeared. The members that said this do no think that HD is guilty.

Several members said HD was at Tara's house several times that same Sunday.

Several members said HD was seen both places during the daylight hours.

Several members have said HD called Tara over 20 times on October 23rd.

Several members have said HD's calls said he was "sorry".

Several members have said HD confessed his love to Tara over the phone during some of those calls.

Several members have said HD was crying at the police station parking lot.

Several members have said they SAW him crying there.

Several members have said HD's wife left him and that HD's family talked GD into going back.

Several members have said HD had personal connections with the GBI and a very good friend in the investigation of missing Tara Grinstead.

Several members have said HD has had multiple affairs, including an affair with Tara. The members that told this do not believe HD is guilty.

Several members have said HD had refused a LDT.

Several members have said HD is the GBI's number one POI.

Several members have said AG was jealous of Tara.

Several members have said LG was having an affair with Tara.

Several members have said AG caught LG and Tara together.

FACTS!

HD was at Tara when AV was arrested and through his own admission saw AV physically put his hands on Tara and did not help her.

Tara's car was washed shortly after she went missing.

HD phoned Tara while she was at the BBQ!

HD cellphone records placed him at Tara's house at 12:15 AM just hours before she went missing.

AG said Tara would never leave without her cellphone.

MHu said Tara would leave her cellphone if she left with someone she trusted and wanted to be alone with them.

LG had been in trouble with prescribing medicine for family members.

A pharmasist in Hawkinsville was ordered not to refill any of Tara's medicine after she went missing.

AG/LG did not go right away to Ocilla when Tara was reported missing.

HD and wife were saved after Tara's disapperance.

SF was not the arresting officer in the AV incident.

GBI said this case is solveable.

GBI said NO ONE has been cleared.

HD left a card in Tara's door the Sunday of the weekend that she disappeared.

MH took a LDT test and passed and he had an alibi.

AV took a LDT test and passed and he had an alibi.

Many people believe that Tara is alive and had a baby.

Many people believe that Tara left to get away from everything.

[Maybaby59]

Old Posts Re: LG

To the waters, I am starting this thread in the hope it does not get merged with any other so that we can have honest and open discussion in regard to all the people in Tara's life.

Can anyone tell me does LG own a black truck? Did he own a black truck at the time of Tara's disappearance? This has recently started circulating and either it is rumor or fact. Can anybody verify?

Where have BG & CG gone?

Where has FG gone?

Where has all of TG's other relatives gone? (other than LG & AG)

Does the family know people are claiming to speak for them on this message board? If so, are they in agreement with what is being posted?

What other side of the family was LG referring to? What private investigator was he talking about?

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=102</a>

LARRY GATTIS: The WHOLE thing. That was 90% of the questioning and harassment that day was the supposed affair I had with Tara, and anybody that’s been close to our family, or Tara, or anyone in town knows that’s totally ridiculous, I've don't go to that town very frequently at all. Me and Tara communicated by e-mails a lot and the GBI had all the e-mails that were strictly appropriate, very relative type stuff. So they knew that was ridiculous to start with. It actually got started by, we are not absolutely certain by a rumor from a private investigator that was working with the other side of the family. He has since been terminated. You know, the tragedy is that Tara's gone...

I have many more questions and would appreciate not having this merged.

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I don't know where to post what any more. Is the black truck thread merged with the "Possible Crime Scene" thread?
This is utterly confusing. Maybe that's the point. Thank goodness for the cache.

IMO, LG was talking about Trackers Global and its recovery agent, Hardiman. Hardiman had info posted on this very site saying he was not fired. The Grinsteads also posted a thank you note to Hardiman on the TrackersGlobal website after this interview LG gave about him being fired.

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After LG's statement that the pi was fired, the Grinstead's posted this on the pi's website. Obviously LG was wrong or just wishful thinking since the pi must've uncovered something unbecoming about LG, perhaps? His own words imply as much.

"We have been working with Trackers Global since Tara first disappeared in Oct 2005. We still don't know where she is or what happend to her. We are realistic and know what the statistics are about finding Tara alive, but as long as we have not found her, we cling to that tiny glimmer of hope. We believe in Trackers Global and support Robert in his endeavor to provide this much needed service to any family with a missing loved one and we appreciate his continued efforts to search for our loved one.
Billy and Connie Grinstead
(Tara's Dad & Stepmom)"

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Obviously "the family" is a term used too often and loosely on these boards. LG himself phrased it "the other side of the family," and he's referring to Tara's dad. TrGl also said they were non-profit at some point after their work w/Tara's case began; not sure if it started off non-profit or not, so I don't know about the "hiring" part of your question.

I'd like to know exactly what TrGl discovered to make LG think they relayed info on this topic to GBI to get the polygraph maching going. He says anyone close to Tara or the family would know it was ridiculous, but apparently TrGl found something somewhere from someone.

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We do not know what Hardiman thought. I have not seen any public statements from him. The GBI have interviewed so many people in this case, it may have come from several people. If it was the PI who put it out to the GBI, he had to get it from somewhere.

[Maybaby59]

My mother-in-law was interviewed by the GBI this past weekend. She is the one who saw the man the Monday night after Tara went missing.

Does anybody know what this was about? I did a search on lostinthought and this was the only post.

[hypnotized]

Thread is locked - but here's the link - lots of good info in this thread!

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?t=266543

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[susie31023]

bump

I'm bmping this thread in hopesof discussing some of the things that were posted by earlier posters. Very interesting to reread some of the older posts.

[Its just me]

I'm bmping this thread in hopesof discussing some of the things that were posted by earlier posters. Very interesting to reread some of the older posts.

Thanks Susie....I'm doing a quick stop and read a few post back.....The other side of the family caught my eye. Interesting. fep

[susie31023]

Thanks Susie....I'm doing a quick stop and read a few post back.....The other side of the family caught my eye. Interesting. fep

I agree feppy. This is a most interesting thread, I'm rereading it myself.~Susie

[concernedperson]

Does anybody know what this was about? I did a search on lostinthought and this was the only post.

Maybe lostinthought's MIL contributed to this sketch?

http://www.findingfaces.com/tara.html

[minga]

Maybe lostinthought's MIL contributed to this sketch?

http://www.findingfaces.com/tara.html

Looks like the sketch from the HE show. Doesn't look like any of the POI's on radar.

Something about him, he had a spider web tattoo on one arm (or the other) how did that go?

[concernedperson]

Looks like the sketch from the HE show. Doesn't look like any of the POI's on radar.

Something about him, he had a spider web tattoo on one arm (or the other) how did that go?

Well, the POI's on radar don't match the DNA so there is a loose goose somewhere. Don't know about the tattoo maybe you could elaborate.

[minga]

Well, the POI's on radar don't match the DNA so there is a loose goose somewhere. Don't know about the tattoo maybe you could elaborate.

Then your mind is failing. The tattoo that was mentioned on the waste of time HE Spectacular. That face was revealed and mention of the spider web tattoo on his left arm, or his other one. The guy that overcame Tara at her house had a spider web tattoo and drove a red truck.

How could you forget Carla solving the crime?

[kathmandu]

JDA was discussed at length at one time as POI on the message boards.

Although no official suspects or POI's have been named by the GBI, Rothwell said nobody has been ruled out and nobody can account for the full amount of time that elapsed after Tara was last seen and when she was reported missing.

JDA is married and was working at Ben Hill Sheriff's Office when Tara disappeared. It was stated on the board that JDA was called to Ocilla to process Tara's car, but some were upset because it was alleged that he had dated Tara at one time and it was a conflict of interest.

Does anybody still question his involvement? Why or why not?

[McKenna]

JDA was discussed at length at one time as POI on the message boards.

Although no official suspects or POI's have been named by the GBI, Rothwell said nobody has been ruled out and nobody can account for the full amount of time that elapsed after Tara was last seen and when she was reported missing.

JDA is married and was working at Ben Hill Sheriff's Office when Tara disappeared. It was stated on the board that JDA was called to Ocilla to process Tara's car, but some were upset because it was alleged that he had dated Tara at one time and it was a conflict of interest.

Does anybody still question his involvement? Why or why not?

I would imagine that since no one has been "ruled out" that JDA is still being looked at as to his movements, etc. the weekend Tara disappeared. IMO.

[McKenna]

ROCKVILLE, Md. - A former U.S. Army Ranger from Maryland has been sentenced to 35 years in prison in the shooting death of a fellow Ranger he served with in Afghanistan.

Gary Smith was convicted in April of shooting 22-year-old Michael McQueen II in the apartment they shared in Gaithersburg. He was found guilty of second-degree murder — depraved heart.

Jurors rejected a defense claim that McQueen committed suicide in September 2006. Prosecutors didn't suggest a motive, but said Smith idolized McQueen and was upset when he planned to move out.

In sentencing the 25-year-old Smith Wednesday, Montgomery County Judge Eric M. Johnson criticized a lack of veterans programs. Smith, who also served in Iraq, was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.

[Its just me]

I would imagine that since no one has been "ruled out" that JDA is still being looked at as to his movements, etc. the weekend Tara disappeared. IMO.

You got any thing besides an imagination that says JDA was ever looked. I'm just wondering because he assisted the GBI with the investigation of the house. He was present when the GBI was present...in case you want to take it a different route. fep

[odette]

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Criime Library Supreme Member

03-08-2007, 07:36 PM

#1 - The Protection

Hd's protection has been remarkable since the disapperance of Tara Grinstead. I figured that I would make contact with several individuals to try to get the real story. After verifying several accounts at 1st hand from my source this is what my sources had to say:

A source was leaked to me about a heated arguement between a GBI agent named Carl and Dominic Turner the night of the processing of Tara's house. The argument was supposedly over Tara's digital camera which contained a picture of Tara and Heath ****s at the Perry fair together. "Carl" wanted it taken into evidence....Dominic didnt. Carl was heard saying something along the lines of: "now that you know what you know you need to take that into evidence". Dominic responded with something like " He's already admitted they were seeing each other" and still refused to take it into evidence. This source that told me this walked out as he said the argument became "heated". The camera must have been taken B/c the recovery agent hired by Billy Grinstead couldnt find it in the house.

Now the question I have is where is the digital camera and the picture of Tara and HD? Was it taken into evidence? How did HD admit having a relationship with Tara to DT unless DT and HD talked before DT got to the house. Something isn't right here because the sheets were not taken and her clothes last worn were not taken. Now if we just knew how bad and what happened after the argument became heated. Still digging and will try to post one at a time of the information that I have received from a very reliable source. As I said before I don't have a link ... believe it or not. I believe the picture starts to get clearer. JMHO and now for #2......

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showp...postcount=3376

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Criime Library Supreme Member

03-08-2007, 07:50 PM

#2 - The parking of HD's vehicles

From a several reliable sources from Ocilla this is what they had to say about the parking of HD's vehicles and he did have several that he did use. I was glad to confirm this was true. Here is the parking of the vehicles:

Witnessed Heath's Grey F-150 parked there no more than a week earlier

Witnessed Heath's vehicle parked behind the Masonic lodge at the corner of Irwin ave. and the street Tara lived on.

Witnessed Heath's truck and a Houston Co. govt car parked in her driveway

These witnesses are people who live there and know!

It is of my opinion that this is true and correct from not one source but many.

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showp...postcount=3381

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Criime Library Supreme Member

03-08-2007, 08:03 PM

#3 - The office of the GBI in Perry GA

I was told that a person that went to the GBI in Perry witnessed a guy fitting Heath's description hanging out with the GBI agents that day in the office laughing and joking, they said when he started to leave one of the female agents even said "goodbye Heath".

I was also told that DT ALLEGEDLY said something similar to this ..."Heath couldnt have done this....hes a close friend of mine".

So what is the GBI laughing a joking with a man that left his business card in the door of a missing woman? I find this conduct very unbecoming of LE Officers that are suppose to be on Tara's side not HD's. IF DT did indeed say this then HD sure has protection alot better then any of the men we have discussed. AG/LG/FG, DT, GBI laughing and joking with him what does this man have to worry about it? They scream justice justice justice and I scream truth truth truth.

It is not of my intention to get anyone in trouble but rather get off your hineys and do something about this situation. Tara has not been found and NO ONE DESERVES TO BE PROTECTED OR ABOVE THE LAW. JMHO

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showp...postcount=3388

[McKenna]

You got any thing besides an imagination that says JDA was ever looked. I'm just wondering because he assisted the GBI with the investigation of the house. He was present when the GBI was present...in case you want to take it a different route. fep

HD also assisted the GBI according to you.

[odette]

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Criime Library Supreme Member

03-08-2007, 08:21 PM

#4 - Statement from a LE Officer that was there

LE Officer said from day 1 that Heath ****s better be sweating bullets because he can be linked to the scene-by the business card left in the door. His opinion of the glove is that it appeared "staged" to him.

There seems to be a whole lot of staging going on IMHO including the phone calls that I have always felt were an over kill.

Also another question that I had was when was the arrival of HD. This is what the answer was to my question:

The comment made was that HD beat just about everybody to the OPD. Most people were arriving around 9:30 AM.

How did he get there that fast? Where was he when he got the call? So according to my source HD was there before 9:30 AM. That really blew my mind because I always thought he got there in the afternoon. JMHO

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showp...postcount=3390

[Its just me]

ROCKVILLE, Md. - A former U.S. Army Ranger from Maryland has been sentenced to 35 years in prison in the shooting death of a fellow Ranger he served with in Afghanistan.

Gary Smith was convicted in April of shooting 22-year-old Michael McQueen II in the apartment they shared in Gaithersburg. He was found guilty of second-degree murder — depraved heart.

Jurors rejected a defense claim that McQueen committed suicide in September 2006. Prosecutors didn't suggest a motive, but said Smith idolized McQueen and was upset when he planned to move out.

In sentencing the 25-year-old Smith Wednesday, Montgomery County Judge Eric M. Johnson criticized a lack of veterans programs. Smith, who also served in Iraq, was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.

Thanks for the sad information. It's clear what your motive is but in all reality it worthless for those who think outside the box.

It is down right stupid to think there would be NO crime among the military. Actually the stastics show there is less crime in the military compared to the same number of civilians. It also has to be taken into consideration that Smith was being defended in a murder trial....I'm sure he had a defense attorney that argued the best defense possible and I doubt it was hard to get Smith diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder..If he was getting treatment long before the murder..that would be another thing but since he was found guilty I question it. Putting on a good defense is Sort of Common Sense and certainly common practice.
Sort of like some people without a Job...They will claim ever ailment in the world not to work but just as able as the next guy. Most people do what ever is necessary to defend their actions. fep

[McKenna]

JDA was discussed at length at one time as POI on the message boards.

Although no official suspects or POI's have been named by the GBI, Rothwell said nobody has been ruled out and nobody can account for the full amount of time that elapsed after Tara was last seen and when she was reported missing.

JDA is married and was working at Ben Hill Sheriff's Office when Tara disappeared. It was stated on the board that JDA was called to Ocilla to process Tara's car, but some were upset because it was alleged that he had dated Tara at one time and it was a conflict of interest.

Does anybody still question his involvement? Why or why not?

Kath IIRC, this was also the police officer who moved away shortly after Tara's disappearance. After purchasing a new home IIRC, which is a little odd, but maybe there is an explanation for that. But as I said before, since no one is ruled out, this probably includes JDA, IMO. Do you have any thoughts on this?

[Its just me]

HD also assisted the GBI according to you.

OH Hell, Quote Please. fep

[susie31023]

HD also assisted the GBI according to you.

MAC, feppy has NEVER said HD assisted GBI. IF you say that then provide a link. Other people have tried to spin it that he came back to Ocilla in an effort to assist but, no one has ever been able to say he actually assisted anyone but himself. There is no way a cop from a few counties over would be called in to assist in an investigation where he clearly was suspect due to his relationship with the missing person. HD may have tried to claim thats why he was there but anyone with half a brain cell and common sense would know that was a lie. IF you doubt me ask the Chief or call the GBI. JMO

[Its just me]

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Thanks Odette, Results has done an excellent job calling and talking to people to get answers in this case. fep

[McKenna]

Here's another example, and IMO both of these guys will be ultimately found guilty. No PTSD noted here though.


(CNN) -- A Marine accused of killing his soldier wife was advised of murder and arson charges against him in a brief hearing before a judge on Tuesday.

Lance Cpl. Kyle Alden, and Marine Cpl. John Wimunc are accused in the death of Holley Wimunc.

Marine Cpl. John Wimunc was charged with first-degree murder and arson for the death of Army 2nd Lt. Holley Wimunc, 24, who went missing after her home was set ablaze last week.

Another Marine, Lance Cpl. Kyle Alden, was charged with arson and felony accessory after the fact to first-degree murder.

The case has drawn national attention, but John Wimunc's lawyer cautioned the public Tuesday against forming an opinion on the case.

"He is to be presumed innocent," attorney D.W. Bray said outside the courtroom. "We have soldiers fighting all over to preserve that right. He should not be tried in the media."

A judge scheduled Wimunc's next court hearing for August 5.

Wimunc and Alden were stationed at Camp Lejeune, and Holley Wimunc was stationed at nearby Fort Bragg.

Joe Lenczyk, resident agent-in-charge for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said Holley Wimunc and her husband were estranged and lived apart.

Authorities began searching for the missing soldier after her Fayetteville, North Carolina, apartment was torched July 10.

[Its just me]

MAC, feppy has NEVER said HD assisted GBI. IF you say that then provide a link. Other people have tried to spin it that he came back to Ocilla in an effort to assist but, no one has ever been able to say he actually assisted anyone but himself. There is no way a cop from a few counties over would be called in to assist in an investigation where he clearly was suspect due to his relationship with the missing person. HD may have tried to claim thats why he was there but anyone with half a brain cell and common sense would know that was a lie. IF you doubt me ask the Chief or call the GBI. JMO

Just more of the same Susie...Macaroni keeps blabbing and it has to keep being corrected. fep

[Its just me]

Thanks for the sad information. It's clear what your motive is but in all reality it worthless for those who think outside the box.

It is down right stupid to think there would be NO crime among the military. Actually the stastics show there is less crime in the military compared to the same number of civilians. It also has to be taken into consideration that Smith was being defended in a murder trial....I'm sure he had a defense attorney that argued the best defense possible and I doubt it was hard to get Smith diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder..If he was getting treatment long before the murder..that would be another thing but since he was found guilty I question it. Putting on a good defense is Sort of Common Sense and certainly common practice.
Sort of like some people without a Job...They will claim ever ailment in the world not to work but just as able as the next guy. Most people do what ever is necessary to defend their actions. fep

Bumping. fep

[Its just me]

Kath IIRC, this was also the police officer who moved away shortly after Tara's disappearance. After purchasing a new home IIRC, which is a little odd, but maybe there is an explanation for that. But as I said before, since no one is ruled out, this probably includes JDA, IMO. Do you have any thoughts on this?

I don't know if JDA bought a new home or not...but getting a better job and moving is Common practice for those in the work force. It's also common practice for new job openings to crop up unexpected...The last news I had is JDA new job allows him to work with the Perry GBI...FWIW. fep

[McKenna]

IIRC, it's been said many times that "HD" had a really tight relationship with the GBI and that's why he's being "protected" by them. Utter nonsense, of course, but it HAS been said, and it's been said by YOU.

If you deny he's being protected, then heck, just say so. No hard feelings. According to YOU, FEP, GBI is just a lying bunch of crazy people hell bent on covering up a crime. And for what? An alleged friendship with HD? LOLOL

That could not be FURTHER from the truth and you are well aware of that. Your past negative comments about GBI are well known, and I'm sure the source is always considered, as is your motive for making such bizarre statements IMO.

I'll ignore your future rants, but carry on anyway if it makes you feel better. I look for the party posse to arrive any moment to defend you, since that is usually the case, so I'll run along now and leave you to it. Have a nice day.

[readmylips]

IIRC, it's been said many times that "HD" had a really tight relationship with the GBI and that's why he's being "protected" by them. Utter nonsense, of course, but it HAS been said, and it's been said by YOU.

If you deny he's being protected, then heck, just say so. No hard feelings. According to YOU, FEP, GBI is just a lying bunch of crazy people hell bent on covering up a crime. And for what? An alleged friendship with HD? LOLOL

That could not be FURTHER from the truth and you are well aware of that. Your past negative comments about GBI are well known, and I'm sure the source is always considered, as is your motive for making such bizarre statements IMO.

I'll ignore your future rants, but carry on anyway if it makes you feel better. I look for the party posse to arrive any moment to defend you, since that is usually the case, so I'll run along now and leave you to it. Have a nice day.

If you were just half as informed as you thought you are you'd be halfway tolerable.

[odette]

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RCM-715
Member

01-20-2007, 01:01 PM

Ldt

I tried to call MH today, but he wasn't available. I called another guy I know from GA, his friend was in LE for years. The friend resigned from LE and is now doing some consulting for an attorney, if I'm understanding correctly. I haven't talked with him for a while, decided to give him a call. I just came out and asked the questions. He stated his friend (the consultant) told him HD had taken a LDT. He apparently has inside info. I have no reason to not believe him. He stated HD has been RAKED over the coals and is the #1 POI at present!
The question of why we haven't heard about the LDT was stated clearly in the above post. No one has to reveal anything re: a LDT results to the public. Of course it was ole LG's decision to share with the nation his results! He's so dam* goofy! But, he gave the public some interesting info. when he did share. My question is....if HD passed his LDT then why wouldn't he want the world to know?! If otherwise....... then we wouldn't hear anything.
I've stated it b/f and I'll say it again......I don't have any idea what HD knows, but I feel he knows something re: Tara's disappearance.
Results tells us HD has had an affair b/f Tara! I can't tell you on this board how I feel about this guy! But IMO, he can't be trusted by his wife or anyone else -over-

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showp...postcount=2503

[Its just me]

IIRC, it's been said many times that "HD" had a really tight relationship with the GBI and that's why he's being "protected" by them. Utter nonsense, of course, but it HAS been said, and it's been said by YOU.

If you deny he's being protected, then heck, just say so. No hard feelings. According to YOU, FEP, GBI is just a lying bunch of crazy people hell bent on covering up a crime. And for what? An alleged friendship with HD? LOLOL

That could not be FURTHER from the truth and you are well aware of that. Your past negative comments about GBI are well known, and I'm sure the source is always considered, as is your motive for making such bizarre statements IMO.

I'll ignore your future rants, but carry on anyway if it makes you feel better. I look for the party posse to arrive any moment to defend you, since that is usually the case, so I'll run along now and leave you to it. Have a nice day.

Ha.You finally got one right Mac..Yep I have said exactly what you said I did and I haven't changed my "position" that the GBI is very capable of protecting their friend HD. Just a fact... whether you or anyone wants to believe it or not...doesn't change things one Iota. I know it and some of the GBI knows it. If any "Good" one wants to challenge me...I'm telling them today because I know they read the boards. [B] Bring your tails over and I will prove I'm justified in my position"

Kenna you got pissed because I posted where JDA is at today so it's just like what I just posted on another thread...You can't attact the local information so you attact the local people. Thank you for proving me right. I can't help I have established credibility where people will defend me from people like you trying to discredit me because you can't discredit what I post. Carry on...you may ignore me but don't ever expect me to ignore your bull crap. fep

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IIRC, it's been said many times that "HD" had a really tight relationship with the GBI and that's why he's being "protected" by them. Utter nonsense, of course, but it HAS been said, and it's been said by YOU.

If you deny he's being protected, then heck, just say so. No hard feelings. According to YOU, FEP, GBI is just a lying bunch of crazy people hell bent on covering up a crime. And for what? An alleged friendship with HD? LOLOL

That could not be FURTHER from the truth and you are well aware of that. Your past negative comments about GBI are well known, and I'm sure the source is always considered, as is your motive for making such bizarre statements IMO.

I'll ignore your future rants, but carry on anyway if it makes you feel better. I look for the party posse to arrive any moment to defend you, since that is usually the case, so I'll run along now and leave you to it. Have a nice day.

Mac, I don't know who you are or where you are but if you doubt GBI is not capable of protecting their friends then you my dear need to step back into reality. It has been proven more than once here in Ga. that LE can and will protect the ones they see as friends. As for HD being friends with some of the agents I am sure he is.

Now did he harm Tara I have no idea but I do know he sure put himself right smack in the middle then lied saying he hadn't seen Tara in weeks. Seems as if he really cared about Tara and her being found he wouldn't have disappeared after that monday. Can you tell me what searches he went on? What about admitting he had an affair? Dr. G. let that one slip out months later. What about his midnight run to Ocilla that Sunday? The call to FG? Nope he has been a complete coward hiding behind his badge. The "Oh I can't say anything" just doesn't cut it. JMO

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The Men in this Case: Discusssion

Thank you Odette. I remember reading this post before. I wonder whether it was ever established just what happened to that camera and what the other agent did? I believe Dominic Turner is no longer with the GBI. I read somewhere that he resigned due to a DUI. That just doesn't sound right to me. I wonder if there was something else behind his resignation? I will try to ask the people I know and see if they perhaps know anything.

I think we may have had more information on this case if Chief Hancock had just investigated this himself instead of trying to do the right thing and call GBI. Seems as if they should have taken a hint from the Chief and referred this case to the FBI since they clearly had a conflict of interest also. This is just my own opinion though. JMO

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Thank you Odette. I remember reading this post before. I wonder whether it was ever established just what happened to that camera and what the other agent did? I believe Dominic Turner is no longer with the GBI. I read somewhere that he resigned due to a DUI. That just doesn't sound right to me. I wonder if there was something else behind his resignation? I will try to ask the people I know and see if they perhaps know anything.

I think we may have had more information on this case if Chief Hancock had just investigated this himself instead of trying to do the right thing and call GBI. Seems as if they should have taken a hint from the Chief and referred this case to the FBI since they clearly had a conflict of interest also. This is just my own opinion though. JMO

FWIW .. it's never sounded right to me either Susie.

JMHO